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Mirrors!

No, I'm not ok, whenever I come here, it is because I am isolated and lonely, I admire those who can sit at their computers the entire day.

I admire those who can talk about nothing the entire day, staring into their internet monitors, talking about realizations, I seek liberation from those, at the same time I am attracted by them.

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , "roberibus111" <Roberibus111 wrote:>> you are a deathly bore too.> > that's alright..> > but..> > are 'you' ok?> > > .b b.b.> > > > Nisargadatta , "zen_mirror" zen_mirror@ wrote:> >> > whenever I come here, > > it is because I'm bored to death.> > is this ok.> > > > > > Nisargadatta , "roberibus111" <Roberibus111@> > > wrote:> > > > > > are you ok?> > > > > > .b b.b.> > >> >>

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Nisargadatta , " zen_mirror " <zen_mirror wrote:

>

>

> Mirrors! No, I'm not ok, whenever I come here, it is because I am

> isolated and lonely, I admire those who can sit at their computers the

> entire day. I admire those who can talk about nothing the entire day,

> staring into their internet monitors, talking about realizations, I seek

> liberation from those, at the same time I am attracted by them.

 

 

 

that's boring too.

 

i'm beginning to understand your problem.

 

buck up bucky!

 

everyone is isolated and alone....

 

even in the largest gathering.

 

buck up or suck up...

 

......or duck down.

 

 

 

..b b.b.

 

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > you are a deathly bore too.

> >

> > that's alright..

> >

> > but..

> >

> > are 'you' ok?

> >

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " zen_mirror " zen_mirror@ wrote:

> > >

> > > whenever I come here,

> > > it is because I'm bored to death.

> > > is this ok.

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > are you ok?

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr "

<wwoehr@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi advaitains,

> > > > >

> > > > > On this list most members including myself are cheaters

and

> > liars

> > > > and

> > > > > are writing their posts as if they are fully realized or

> > > > enlightened.

> > > > >

> > > > > For example to state that there is no ego is a lie. There

is

> a

> > > > > structure, a bundle of personal reactions based on memory

> > > > collected

> > > > > during one's life time which are centered aorund and fed

by

> > the

> > > > > inherent suvival instinct. One can realize these reactions

> all

> > > day

> > > > > long and undeniably they are obvious and do exist. For

this

> > > bundle

> > > > > there exist a generic term: Ego.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok, there is no source called ego which is creating all

those

> > > > > reactions but nevertheless those reactions do exist. But

to

> > say

> > > > that

> > > > > there is no ego simply is a lie, a lie based on the hope

that

> > by

> > > > > denying they no longer will exist. But that denial is just

> > > another

> > > > > reaction which adds to that reactive bundle called ego.

> > > > >

> > > > > So why not stay with what is, honestly seeing what one is,

> how

> > > one

> > > > is

> > > > > ticking, without escaping into nondual terminology ? By

> > > conatantly

> > > > > nondual babbling one more and more falls linto the trap of

> > > > believing

> > > > > one had understood. But that " understanding " is just

> > intellectual

> > > > > rumination of what one has read.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore I would suggest from now on lets call the

members

> of

> > > > this

> > > > > forum " nondual ruminators " .

> > > > >

> > > > > :)

> > > > >

> > > > > Werner

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > A true post from an honest man.

> > > >

> > > > Now let us be more practical, is there a way out of the ego?

> > > >

> > > > Most mystical writings say YES.

> > > >

> > > > As humans with mystical heritage, all religions and whatever

> > > >

> > > > else is open for us to examine and contemplate.

> > > >

> > > > I am sure that most of us have done that at an earlier

> > > >

> > > > period.

> > > >

> > > > I came across a post in another group-a sufi group- I will

post

> > > here

> > > >

> > > > because of its relation to the topic we are discussing.

> > > >

> > > > v h

> > > >

> > > > The post in the sufi group with the title:

> > > >

> > > > The Truest Teaching Ever Said

> > > >

> > > > " At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, " Who is

the

> > > > greatest in the kingdom of heaven? " He called a child, whom

he

> > put

> > > > among them, and said, " Truly I tell you, unless you change

and

> > > > become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of

> > > heaven.... "

> > > > Matthew 18:1-9

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > This is the truest answer given in history.

> > > >

> > > > It shows that the child is in the Kingdom.

> > > >

> > > > Then, how am i -now- different from the child?

> > > >

> > > > What have i added to myself in the process of growing up

from a

> > > child

> > > >

> > > > to become a man?

> > > >

> > > > Remembering the Experience of the child, would be the key to

the

> > > >

> > > > Kingdom.

> > > >

> > > > The Kingdom was an immediate Experience to the child,

> > > >

> > > > HERE AND NOW.

> > > >

> > > > We lost site of the kingdom by this process of growing up

and we

> > > >

> > > > saw the world (dunya) instead.

> > > >

> > > > i created the ego (nafs) and the dunya together as

> > > >

> > > > PART and PARCEL, that is how i lost the Kingdom.

> > > >

> > > > Now, i can start to retrace my steps back, because i now

know

> > that

> > > >

> > > > once i was there -HERE.

> > > >

> > > > No need to wait for death, because i will die where i am.

> > > >

> > > > If i am in the Kingdom, i will die in the Kingdom, no harm

> > > >

> > > > done, the Kingdom is forever -Here-, But if i die in the

> > nafs/dunya

> > > >

> > > > complex, i will remain there -Here also- suffering and

deprived.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > p.s. To me, the Kingdom of Heaven means The Paradise of God

> > (Junnah)

> > > >

> > > > or The Face of God, or TRUTH, or Nibana, The Garden of

> Eden...etc

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ok, ok, Virgil,

> > >

> > > Nice fairy tale of a guy who undoubtedly never existed. More

here:

> > >

> > > http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

> > >

> > > And now let me ask, is your ego gone ? Or are you just

dreaming

> of

> > an

> > > egoless state hoping to enter Nirvana ?

> > >

> > > I promise you, without an " ego " you quickly will end up in a

> > mental

> > > asylum as a totally helpless brabbling grown up baby.

> > >

> > > So the question is not how to get rid of the ego but rather

how

> to

> > > live with it without fighting it.

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> >

> > Ok Wrner

> >

> > Whether jesus existed or not, it is not of my concern, but the

> >

> > statment " he " or whoever said it -to me- is true.

> >

> > As for without the ego one would go to a mental institution,

> >

> > then every man who spoke in mysticism should be hospitalized.

> >

> > starting from, Moses, Ramana, Nis, Wei wu Wei,...etc.!

> >

> > This is rather strange!

> >

> > v h

> >

>

>

> Virgil,

>

> I have been into all that you memtioned, also into Sufism. Many

years

> ago I lived for two years in a Sufi Khanka ( Btw, my Sufi name is

> Hamza ) but I am out of all that spiritual shilt told or written

by

> others, dead or alive.

>

> When you are very very simply, then maybe you get near to what you

> are: A living thing, full of mental crap.

>

> :)

>

> Werner

>

 

 

Werner

 

He who -as a child- has not experienced his daily life

 

through the Love showering on him from his mother,

 

and does not value this experience, will never

 

Understand anything and will never taste egolessness.

 

He who - as a child - while holding his mother's hand did not

 

lose himself absolutely in the experience of daily life,

 

will never ever be in Nirvana.

 

 

m

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Nisargadatta , " mourad " <mourad_shamel

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr "

> <wwoehr@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi advaitains,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On this list most members including myself are cheaters

> and

> > > liars

> > > > > and

> > > > > > are writing their posts as if they are fully realized or

> > > > > enlightened.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For example to state that there is no ego is a lie.

There

> is

> > a

> > > > > > structure, a bundle of personal reactions based on

memory

> > > > > collected

> > > > > > during one's life time which are centered aorund and fed

> by

> > > the

> > > > > > inherent suvival instinct. One can realize these

reactions

> > all

> > > > day

> > > > > > long and undeniably they are obvious and do exist. For

> this

> > > > bundle

> > > > > > there exist a generic term: Ego.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ok, there is no source called ego which is creating all

> those

> > > > > > reactions but nevertheless those reactions do exist. But

> to

> > > say

> > > > > that

> > > > > > there is no ego simply is a lie, a lie based on the hope

> that

> > > by

> > > > > > denying they no longer will exist. But that denial is

just

> > > > another

> > > > > > reaction which adds to that reactive bundle called ego.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So why not stay with what is, honestly seeing what one

is,

> > how

> > > > one

> > > > > is

> > > > > > ticking, without escaping into nondual terminology ? By

> > > > conatantly

> > > > > > nondual babbling one more and more falls linto the trap

of

> > > > > believing

> > > > > > one had understood. But that " understanding " is just

> > > intellectual

> > > > > > rumination of what one has read.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Therefore I would suggest from now on lets call the

> members

> > of

> > > > > this

> > > > > > forum " nondual ruminators " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > :)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Werner

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > A true post from an honest man.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now let us be more practical, is there a way out of the

ego?

> > > > >

> > > > > Most mystical writings say YES.

> > > > >

> > > > > As humans with mystical heritage, all religions and

whatever

> > > > >

> > > > > else is open for us to examine and contemplate.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am sure that most of us have done that at an earlier

> > > > >

> > > > > period.

> > > > >

> > > > > I came across a post in another group-a sufi group- I will

> post

> > > > here

> > > > >

> > > > > because of its relation to the topic we are discussing.

> > > > >

> > > > > v h

> > > > >

> > > > > The post in the sufi group with the title:

> > > > >

> > > > > The Truest Teaching Ever Said

> > > > >

> > > > > " At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, " Who

is

> the

> > > > > greatest in the kingdom of heaven? " He called a child,

whom

> he

> > > put

> > > > > among them, and said, " Truly I tell you, unless you change

> and

> > > > > become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of

> > > > heaven.... "

> > > > > Matthew 18:1-9

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > This is the truest answer given in history.

> > > > >

> > > > > It shows that the child is in the Kingdom.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then, how am i -now- different from the child?

> > > > >

> > > > > What have i added to myself in the process of growing up

> from a

> > > > child

> > > > >

> > > > > to become a man?

> > > > >

> > > > > Remembering the Experience of the child, would be the key

to

> the

> > > > >

> > > > > Kingdom.

> > > > >

> > > > > The Kingdom was an immediate Experience to the child,

> > > > >

> > > > > HERE AND NOW.

> > > > >

> > > > > We lost site of the kingdom by this process of growing up

> and we

> > > > >

> > > > > saw the world (dunya) instead.

> > > > >

> > > > > i created the ego (nafs) and the dunya together as

> > > > >

> > > > > PART and PARCEL, that is how i lost the Kingdom.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, i can start to retrace my steps back, because i now

> know

> > > that

> > > > >

> > > > > once i was there -HERE.

> > > > >

> > > > > No need to wait for death, because i will die where i am.

> > > > >

> > > > > If i am in the Kingdom, i will die in the Kingdom, no harm

> > > > >

> > > > > done, the Kingdom is forever -Here-, But if i die in the

> > > nafs/dunya

> > > > >

> > > > > complex, i will remain there -Here also- suffering and

> deprived.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > p.s. To me, the Kingdom of Heaven means The Paradise of

God

> > > (Junnah)

> > > > >

> > > > > or The Face of God, or TRUTH, or Nibana, The Garden of

> > Eden...etc

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ok, ok, Virgil,

> > > >

> > > > Nice fairy tale of a guy who undoubtedly never existed. More

> here:

> > > >

> > > > http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

> > > >

> > > > And now let me ask, is your ego gone ? Or are you just

> dreaming

> > of

> > > an

> > > > egoless state hoping to enter Nirvana ?

> > > >

> > > > I promise you, without an " ego " you quickly will end up in a

> > > mental

> > > > asylum as a totally helpless brabbling grown up baby.

> > > >

> > > > So the question is not how to get rid of the ego but rather

> how

> > to

> > > > live with it without fighting it.

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > > >

> > >

> > > Ok Wrner

> > >

> > > Whether jesus existed or not, it is not of my concern, but the

> > >

> > > statment " he " or whoever said it -to me- is true.

> > >

> > > As for without the ego one would go to a mental institution,

> > >

> > > then every man who spoke in mysticism should be hospitalized.

> > >

> > > starting from, Moses, Ramana, Nis, Wei wu Wei,...etc.!

> > >

> > > This is rather strange!

> > >

> > > v h

> > >

> >

> >

> > Virgil,

> >

> > I have been into all that you memtioned, also into Sufism. Many

> years

> > ago I lived for two years in a Sufi Khanka ( Btw, my Sufi name

is

> > Hamza ) but I am out of all that spiritual shilt told or written

> by

> > others, dead or alive.

> >

> > When you are very very simply, then maybe you get near to what

you

> > are: A living thing, full of mental crap.

> >

> > :)

> >

> > Werner

> >

>

>

> Werner

>

> He who -as a child- has not experienced his daily life

>

> through the Love showering on him from his mother,

>

> and does not value this experience, will never

>

> Understand anything and will never taste egolessness.

>

> He who - as a child - while holding his mother's hand did not

>

> lose himself absolutely in the experience of daily life,

>

> will never ever be in Nirvana.

>

>

> m

>

 

 

True.

 

Further correlation between that state and absolute consciousness

 

has to be done.

 

v h

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Mirrors!

Why in the world would a self realized person enter nirvana, while the liar does not?

There is no difference between the identity of a sage,a seeker, and that of a liar, all are that which doesn't exist,that which is not, all enter nirvana when they die, and return from there as no ones, when they are born again.The no difference is in what the mind believes, the mind of the sage believes it is a sage, that it will enter nirvana and never return.The mind of the liar, believes in the lie, believes in nirvana and believes that he or she, will never return.The mind of the seeker, believes to be seeking, nirvana, enlightenment, whatever.Essentially all these minds have the same origin, they all come from the same source, nirvana, heaven, peace, nothingness.They enter this world, the only existing world, and start to identify themselves, with their bodies, with their mirrors, with other bodies, with other mirrors, ...No difference between the mind of a liar and that of a sage. What's the difference between nirvana and this world? There is no difference between Nirvana and this world, when you die, as a seeker, sage, liar, you turn into no one, that no one we are all seeking here, as this no one, you return to this world, you look out of the eyes of everyone, but no one notices you, because, you are dead, you don't exist, you are no one.

In ego terms, what's the difference between the self realized liar and yourself?The liar tells lies, I am telling the truth.I told my mirror the truth, it told me that the truth is a lie, and that the lie is my truth.The liar believes in the lie, so what's the lie, the lie is that you have just one life, the lie is nirvana, the truth is samsara.There is no escape from samsara. trust me, I've been to nirvana endless times, I've stayed there forever. And I've returned each time, why? Because nirvana doesn't exist, it's a lie, it's an illusion, a white blending illusion, a place for no one. After all we're speaking about illusions here, the seeker has the illusion of seeking enlightenment, and liberation from suffering. The successful seeker will be a sage, one day, so what's the difference between the seeker and sage?Time. The self realized suffers from the illusion of being liberated from reincarnations ...The liar suffers from the illusion of being liberated ...... from future incarnations, the self realized understands, that there is no liberation, that there is no end to suffering, the self realized accepts this world, as his and her eternal home,no place to go, other than here, thus turnes this world into a magicmirror wonder land. The mind is a mirror, it comes straight from nirvana, wherever that is, each individual persona has been to nirvana, endless times.Yes but no one remembers, non existence is a blissful experience, but it isn't real, existence on the other hand, is real. And why do we always return here, to this world, Because this world is our eternal home, our nirvana.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " zen_mirror " <zen_mirror wrote:

>

>

> Mirrors! Why in the world would a self realized person enter nirvana,

> while the liar does not? There is no difference between the identity of

> a sage,a seeker, and that of a liar, all are that which doesn't

> exist,that which is not, all enter nirvana when they die, and return

> from there as no ones, when they are born again.The no difference is in

> what the mind believes, the mind of the sage believes it is a sage, that

> it will enter nirvana and never return.The mind of the liar, believes in

> the lie, believes in nirvana and believes that he or she, will never

> return.The mind of the seeker, believes to be seeking, nirvana,

> enlightenment, whatever.Essentially all these minds have the same

> origin, they all come from the same source, nirvana, heaven, peace,

> nothingness.They enter this world, the only existing world, and start to

> identify themselves, with their bodies, with their mirrors, with other

> bodies, with other mirrors, ...No difference between the mind of a liar

> and that of a sage. What's the difference between nirvana and this

> world? There is no difference between Nirvana and this world, when you

> die, as a seeker, sage, liar, you turn into no one, that no one we are

> all seeking here, as this no one, you return to this world, you look out

> of the eyes of everyone, but no one notices you, because, you are dead,

> you don't exist, you are no one. In ego terms, what's the difference

> between the self realized liar and yourself?The liar tells lies, I am

> telling the truth.I told my mirror the truth, it told me that the truth

> is a lie, and that the lie is my truth.The liar believes in the lie, so

> what's the lie, the lie is that you have just one life, the lie is

> nirvana, the truth is samsara.There is no escape from samsara. trust me,

> I've been to nirvana endless times, I've stayed there forever. And I've

> returned each time, why? Because nirvana doesn't exist, it's a lie, it's

> an illusion, a white blending illusion, a place for no one. After all

> we're speaking about illusions here, the seeker has the illusion of

> seeking enlightenment, and liberation from suffering. The successful

> seeker will be a sage, one day, so what's the difference between the

> seeker and sage?Time. The self realized suffers from the illusion of

> being liberated from reincarnations ...The liar suffers from the

> illusion of being liberated ...... from future incarnations, the self

> realized understands, that there is no liberation, that there is no end

> to suffering, the self realized accepts this world, as his and her

> eternal home,no place to go, other than here, thus turnes this world

> into a magicmirror wonder land. The mind is a mirror, it comes straight

> from nirvana, wherever that is, each individual persona has been to

> nirvana, endless times.Yes but no one remembers, non existence is a

> blissful experience, but it isn't real, existence on the other hand, is

> real. And why do we always return here, to this world, Because this

> world is our eternal home, our nirvana.

 

 

ummm..

 

when you start replying to yourself zen__speculum..

 

watch out behind you..

 

those fellas in the coats of white...

 

they're not there to cheer you on.

 

they come straight from a non-nirvana place...

 

and they carry a garment that's straight too.

 

have you heard of prozac?

 

just a thought.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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What difference does it make if I am talking to myself, or to some other nundual identity, if we are both the same no one. Nisargadatta , "roberibus111" <Roberibus111 wrote:>> > > ummm..> > when you start replying to yourself zen__speculum..> > watch out behind you..> > those fellas in the coats of white...> > they're not there to cheer you on.> > they come straight from a non-nirvana place...> > and they carry a garment that's straight too.> > have you heard of prozac?> > just a thought.> > :-)> > .b b.b.>

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Nisargadatta , " zen_mirror " <zen_mirror wrote:

>

> What difference does it make if I am talking to myself, or to some other

> nundual identity, if we are both the same no one.

 

 

 

 

 

'nundual' someone?

 

who's the two in the convent?

 

of course i know that you meant non dual..

 

and that's the point.

 

if you're talking to someone else..

 

they can point out your errors to you.

 

trying to shove that " i am so enlightened at all times " bullshit..

 

is nutso.

 

buddha, jesus, nis, ramana...

 

didn't walk around saying they were no one all the time.

 

once and awhile you got to get real with the unreal.

 

dig?

 

if you try and pull that scam of 'being there' continuously..

 

a whole lot of people are going to call your bluff.

 

and your close friends and family..

 

might have you looked at for your own welfare and safety.

 

that's the men in white coats thing i mentioned.

 

just cut the crap.

 

that's the difference.

 

capiche compadre?

 

..b b.b.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > ummm..

> >

> > when you start replying to yourself zen__speculum..

> >

> > watch out behind you..

> >

> > those fellas in the coats of white...

> >

> > they're not there to cheer you on.

> >

> > they come straight from a non-nirvana place...

> >

> > and they carry a garment that's straight too.

> >

> > have you heard of prozac?

> >

> > just a thought.

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

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Nice of you,

 

as most people I am looking for a home,

 

meaning I am looking for people who share my point of view.

 

But there are no people who share my point of view,

 

thus, I choose to talk to myself.

 

Beside, I'm not talking to myself,

 

I am talking to the reflection inside my mirror,

 

which is quite different.

 

Don't you agree?

 

Oh yes, I do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

 

 

> 'nundual' someone?

>

> who's the two in the convent?

>

> of course i know that you meant non dual..

>

> and that's the point.

>

> if you're talking to someone else..

>

> they can point out your errors to you.

>

> trying to shove that " i am so enlightened at all times " bullshit..

>

> is nutso.

>

> buddha, jesus, nis, ramana...

>

> didn't walk around saying they were no one all the time.

>

> once and awhile you got to get real with the unreal.

>

> dig?

>

> if you try and pull that scam of 'being there' continuously..

>

> a whole lot of people are going to call your bluff.

>

> and your close friends and family..

>

> might have you looked at for your own welfare and safety.

>

> that's the men in white coats thing i mentioned.

>

> just cut the crap.

>

> that's the difference.

>

> capiche compadre?

>

> .b b.b.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ummm..

> > >

> > > when you start replying to yourself zen__speculum..

> > >

> > > watch out behind you..

> > >

> > > those fellas in the coats of white...

> > >

> > > they're not there to cheer you on.

> > >

> > > they come straight from a non-nirvana place...

> > >

> > > and they carry a garment that's straight too.

> > >

> > > have you heard of prozac?

> > >

> > > just a thought.

> > >

> > > :-)

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " zen_mirror " <zen_mirror wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Nice of you,

>

> as most people I am looking for a home,

>

> meaning I am looking for people who share my point of view.

>

> But there are no people who share my point of view,

>

> thus, I choose to talk to myself.

>

> Beside, I'm not talking to myself,

>

> I am talking to the reflection inside my mirror,

>

> which is quite different.

>

> Don't you agree?

>

> Oh yes, I do.

 

 

 

 

good luck on the house search.

 

please don't drive by this neighborhood.

 

it's full of violent reflections if you know what i mean.

 

if you have a 'point of view' than you have something to defend.

 

and you will continue to defend that pov...

 

as if that pov WAS you.

 

you believe your 'survival' depends on getting agreement with it.

 

that's sad really.

 

i'm so sorry for you.

 

i hope you grow out of this depressive and deluded state.

 

seriously.

 

 

..b b.b.

 

 

*****************************NNB*************************************

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

>

>

> > 'nundual' someone?

> >

> > who's the two in the convent?

> >

> > of course i know that you meant non dual..

> >

> > and that's the point.

> >

> > if you're talking to someone else..

> >

> > they can point out your errors to you.

> >

> > trying to shove that " i am so enlightened at all times " bullshit..

> >

> > is nutso.

> >

> > buddha, jesus, nis, ramana...

> >

> > didn't walk around saying they were no one all the time.

> >

> > once and awhile you got to get real with the unreal.

> >

> > dig?

> >

> > if you try and pull that scam of 'being there' continuously..

> >

> > a whole lot of people are going to call your bluff.

> >

> > and your close friends and family..

> >

> > might have you looked at for your own welfare and safety.

> >

> > that's the men in white coats thing i mentioned.

> >

> > just cut the crap.

> >

> > that's the difference.

> >

> > capiche compadre?

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ummm..

> > > >

> > > > when you start replying to yourself zen__speculum..

> > > >

> > > > watch out behind you..

> > > >

> > > > those fellas in the coats of white...

> > > >

> > > > they're not there to cheer you on.

> > > >

> > > > they come straight from a non-nirvana place...

> > > >

> > > > and they carry a garment that's straight too.

> > > >

> > > > have you heard of prozac?

> > > >

> > > > just a thought.

> > > >

> > > > :-)

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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