Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam > > > > > > > > <diana.shellam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who removes them? the one thats wanting to escape? > > > > diana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " > > > > <jeusisbuen@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no good and no evil. In every > > > > > > > > > > > > concrete situation there is only the > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary and the unnecessary. The > > > > > > > > > > > > needful is right, the needless is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > The situation decides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every situation is a challenge which > > > > > > > > > > > > demands the right response. When the > > > > > > > > > > > > response is right, the challenge is met > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem ceases. If the response > > > > > > > > > > > > is wrong, the challenge is not met and > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem remains unsolved. Your > > > > > > > > > > > > unsolved problems - that is what > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutes your karma. Solve them > > > > > > > > > > > > rightly and be free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > My question:What the hell is he talking about > > > > anyway? > > > > > > Every > > > > > > > > > > > > situation I every saw got the only response it > > could > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > gotten. Z > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...your true nature... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you are your true nature...no problems... > > > > > > > > > > > when you take yourself for what you are not... > > > > > > > > > > > then that is ignoring your true nature, and the > > > > beginning > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh shit! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give it up kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll never 'get it' this dumb-ass way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always assisting my little pumpkin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from above: > > > > > > > > > " When the response is right, > > > > > > > > > the challenge is met and the problem ceases. > > > > > > > > > If the response is wrong, > > > > > > > > > the challenge is not met and the problem remains > > unsolved. > > > > > > > > > Your unsolved problems - that is what constitutes your > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > Solve them rightly and be free. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first...explain...what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'iietsa'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the only explanation needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your state of difficulty that needs to be > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your source of difficulty... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an effort that is inconvenient... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a factor causing trouble in achieving a positive result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or tending to produce a negative result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the quality of being difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa's it's name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horseshit's it's game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you could have learned this in class... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you had attended elementary school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but alas..it's evident that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh what's the use.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all you have are dumb questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you judge (me), as one with all the dumb questions... > > > > > > but can you explain what a problem is ? > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are kid. > > > > > > > > > > that's what i said above. > > > > > > > > > > reread and try and comprehend the words. > > > > > > > > > > i know it's that lack of schooling deal.. > > > > > > > > > > but asking again after being answered quite clearly > > beforehand.. > > > > > > > > > > well..it's just stupid of you to do that. > > > > > > > > > > again and again. > > > > > > > > > > let's try again: > > > > > > > > > > problem: > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be resolved... > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > > > > > > now do we need to go over 'difficulty' again? > > > > > > > > > > i realize this is difficult for you... > > > > > > > > > > but christ almighty son... > > > > > > > > > > you can't be that dense for being that which you say you are > > not. > > > > > > > > > > ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be resolved... > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > well good..you seem to now know what a problem is.... > > > > > > if you say you don't have one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > double good, no need to explain to you what a problem is. > > > > > > again you state that you don't have a 'problem'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > triple whammy..three times you say you understand what a problem > > is! > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...is there perhaps something wrong with me > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called problems ?... > > > > ...you must try harder to make me understand your wisdom... > > > > dont give up...again, tell me what is a problem ? > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > if you say it's no problem for you three fucking times... > > > > > > you're really a dummy to have to ask.. > > > > > > what it is that a problem is. > > > > > > again! > > > > > > on top of using it as a defining thing about you.. > > > > > > that you have no problem. > > > > > > THAT'S a problem sonny. > > > > > > you don't have the slightest idea what you're trying to say.. > > > > > > just more bullshit. > > > > > > the only one you're fooling with this nonsense is iietsa. > > > > > > not that that's a terribly difficult thing to do. > > > > > > you really are just a child.... > > > > > > talking out his ass. > > > > > > grow up. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is... > > and thats why I dont have one... > > ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be investigated by > > one who have not yet understood... > > ...when you take me for a " dummy " or a " child " or whatever... > > ...or when you judge something " bullshit " ... > > you have already ignored your true nature, > > by holding on to the old road of darkness... > > to investigate openly one cannot bring about old judgements or > > labels... > > let the new light of receptive listening into the room... > > and darkness will disappear like a drop of water into the sea... > > ...iietsa > > > children's games are what children play. > > why did you ask for an explanation for what a 'problem is'.. > > and now because you are caught in your own trap... > > of saying that you don't have what you don't know... > > you back up..turn around...cower...and change your story? > > iietsa you are a child. > > being right even when your wrong is so important to you. > > you have an incredibly small mind for such a big ego. > > you asked: > > " is there perhaps something wrong with me.. > > that hinders me from having these so-called problems ?.. " > > you're all wet kid > > you have a lot of problems.. > > people who believe that they don't give proof thereby that they do. > > that's the something that's wrong with you. > > you're just a north country tyke.. > > who's so full of himself... > > who can't admit his errors so obvious to others.. > > are you an only child? > > spoiled? > > you're old man should give you a kick in your ass... > > then maybe all your bullshit... > > will disappear like a drop of water into the sea... > > a dirty drop of water. > > you are deluded son. > > you're about as enlightened as you are smart.. > > which means iietsa that you are an uneducated, uninformed, ignoramus. > > the only people who don't have problems.. > > the only people who are never wrong... > > the only people who believe they know it all.. > > are people who: > > aren't doing anything, trying anything, learning anything. > > that pretty much sums up your sad sack life and times.. > > and explains your delusional love of self opinion. > > as i said.. > > you ain't got the stuff to handle the truth. > > you're afraid of admitting you were wrong.. > > and go to even greater foolish lengths.. > > and make even more foolish statements.. > > in order to maintain your 'self image'. > > if you don't lose that 'self', and 'need to be right' notion.. > > you will never go anywhere further than where you are stuck... > > in the fantasy world of children. > > i think you need a goodnight story and a good nap... > > but hell...you're already asleep. > > so sad. > > by the way kiddo.. > > saying: > > " yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is...and thats why I dont > > have one... " > > doesn't make any sense..it's nonsequitur...stupid really. > > that's like saying.. > > " i know perfectly well what a mind, body, life...ad infinitum.. is.. > > ...and that's why i don't have one " > > and then you compound this nonsense and go on to say: > > " ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be investigated by > > one who have not yet understood... " > > understood what? > > understood that illogical first statement? > > that's just dumb. > > as long as there is a 'someone' to 'investigate' anything.. > > there is only delusion and darkness. > > you have years to grow and miles to go. > > sleep little darlin' do not cry. > > it's fun to have kids about the room. > > they make us giggle. > > your mentor, > > .b b.b. > what do you get from judging what you see... why create devision where there is none... labels and judgementals is only ghosts of the mind... phantoms of the dark... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam > > > > > > > > > <diana.shellam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who removes them? the one thats wanting to > escape? > > > > > diana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " > > > > > <jeusisbuen@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no good and no evil. In every > > > > > > > > > > > > > concrete situation there is only the > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary and the unnecessary. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > needful is right, the needless is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The situation decides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every situation is a challenge which > > > > > > > > > > > > > demands the right response. When the > > > > > > > > > > > > > response is right, the challenge is met > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem ceases. If the response > > > > > > > > > > > > > is wrong, the challenge is not met and > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem remains unsolved. Your > > > > > > > > > > > > > unsolved problems - that is what > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutes your karma. Solve them > > > > > > > > > > > > > rightly and be free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > My question:What the hell is he talking > about > > > > > anyway? > > > > > > > Every > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation I every saw got the only response > it > > > could > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > gotten. Z > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...your true nature... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you are your true nature...no problems... > > > > > > > > > > > > when you take yourself for what you are not... > > > > > > > > > > > > then that is ignoring your true nature, and > the > > > > > beginning > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh shit! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give it up kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll never 'get it' this dumb-ass way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always assisting my little pumpkin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from above: > > > > > > > > > > " When the response is right, > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is met and the problem ceases. > > > > > > > > > > If the response is wrong, > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is not met and the problem remains > > > unsolved. > > > > > > > > > > Your unsolved problems - that is what constitutes > your > > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > Solve them rightly and be free. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first...explain...what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'iietsa'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the only explanation needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your state of difficulty that needs to be > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your source of difficulty... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your question raised for consideration or > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an effort that is inconvenient... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a factor causing trouble in achieving a positive > result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or tending to produce a negative result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the quality of being difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa's it's name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horseshit's it's game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you could have learned this in class... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you had attended elementary school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but alas..it's evident that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh what's the use.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all you have are dumb questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you judge (me), as one with all the dumb questions... > > > > > > > but can you explain what a problem is ? > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what i said above. > > > > > > > > > > > > reread and try and comprehend the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know it's that lack of schooling deal.. > > > > > > > > > > > > but asking again after being answered quite clearly > > > beforehand.. > > > > > > > > > > > > well..it's just stupid of you to do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > again and again. > > > > > > > > > > > > let's try again: > > > > > > > > > > > > problem: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > now do we need to go over 'difficulty' again? > > > > > > > > > > > > i realize this is difficult for you... > > > > > > > > > > > > but christ almighty son... > > > > > > > > > > > > you can't be that dense for being that which you say you > are > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be resolved... > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > well good..you seem to now know what a problem is.... > > > > > > > > if you say you don't have one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > double good, no need to explain to you what a problem is. > > > > > > > > again you state that you don't have a 'problem'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > triple whammy..three times you say you understand what a > problem > > > is! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...is there perhaps something wrong with me > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called problems ?... > > > > > ...you must try harder to make me understand your wisdom... > > > > > dont give up...again, tell me what is a problem ? > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say it's no problem for you three fucking times... > > > > > > > > you're really a dummy to have to ask.. > > > > > > > > what it is that a problem is. > > > > > > > > again! > > > > > > > > on top of using it as a defining thing about you.. > > > > > > > > that you have no problem. > > > > > > > > THAT'S a problem sonny. > > > > > > > > you don't have the slightest idea what you're trying to say.. > > > > > > > > just more bullshit. > > > > > > > > the only one you're fooling with this nonsense is iietsa. > > > > > > > > not that that's a terribly difficult thing to do. > > > > > > > > you really are just a child.... > > > > > > > > talking out his ass. > > > > > > > > grow up. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is... > > > and thats why I dont have one... > > > ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be investigated > by > > > one who have not yet understood... > > > ...when you take me for a " dummy " or a " child " or whatever... > > > ...or when you judge something " bullshit " ... > > > you have already ignored your true nature, > > > by holding on to the old road of darkness... > > > to investigate openly one cannot bring about old judgements or > > > labels... > > > let the new light of receptive listening into the room... > > > and darkness will disappear like a drop of water into the sea... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > children's games are what children play. > > > > why did you ask for an explanation for what a 'problem is'.. > > > > and now because you are caught in your own trap... > > > > of saying that you don't have what you don't know... > > > > you back up..turn around...cower...and change your story? > > > > iietsa you are a child. > > > > being right even when your wrong is so important to you. > > > > you have an incredibly small mind for such a big ego. > > > > you asked: > > > > " is there perhaps something wrong with me.. > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called problems ?.. " > > > > you're all wet kid > > > > you have a lot of problems.. > > > > people who believe that they don't give proof thereby that they do. > > > > that's the something that's wrong with you. > > > > you're just a north country tyke.. > > > > who's so full of himself... > > > > who can't admit his errors so obvious to others.. > > > > are you an only child? > > > > spoiled? > > > > you're old man should give you a kick in your ass... > > > > then maybe all your bullshit... > > > > will disappear like a drop of water into the sea... > > > > a dirty drop of water. > > > > you are deluded son. > > > > you're about as enlightened as you are smart.. > > > > which means iietsa that you are an uneducated, uninformed, > ignoramus. > > > > the only people who don't have problems.. > > > > the only people who are never wrong... > > > > the only people who believe they know it all.. > > > > are people who: > > > > aren't doing anything, trying anything, learning anything. > > > > that pretty much sums up your sad sack life and times.. > > > > and explains your delusional love of self opinion. > > > > as i said.. > > > > you ain't got the stuff to handle the truth. > > > > you're afraid of admitting you were wrong.. > > > > and go to even greater foolish lengths.. > > > > and make even more foolish statements.. > > > > in order to maintain your 'self image'. > > > > if you don't lose that 'self', and 'need to be right' notion.. > > > > you will never go anywhere further than where you are stuck... > > > > in the fantasy world of children. > > > > i think you need a goodnight story and a good nap... > > > > but hell...you're already asleep. > > > > so sad. > > > > by the way kiddo.. > > > > saying: > > > > " yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is...and thats why I > dont > > > > have one... " > > > > doesn't make any sense..it's nonsequitur...stupid really. > > > > that's like saying.. > > > > " i know perfectly well what a mind, body, life...ad infinitum.. > is.. > > > > ...and that's why i don't have one " > > > > and then you compound this nonsense and go on to say: > > > > " ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be investigated > by > > > > one who have not yet understood... " > > > > understood what? > > > > understood that illogical first statement? > > > > that's just dumb. > > > > as long as there is a 'someone' to 'investigate' anything.. > > > > there is only delusion and darkness. > > > > you have years to grow and miles to go. > > > > sleep little darlin' do not cry. > > > > it's fun to have kids about the room. > > > > they make us giggle. > > > > your mentor, > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > what do you get from judging what you see... > why create devision where there is none... > labels and judgementals is only ghosts of the mind... > phantoms of the dark... > ...iietsa now why would it concern a he who is not.. what a he who is..is getting from anything? besides my child.. i judge not. i point out what you have said... not what you have not said.. if what you have said (even as the 'you' who is not).. makes no sense.. i will say that it makes no sense. that's not judging son..that's just pointing to fact. that's teaching you the right path. if you refuse the lessons and persist in your folly.. that's your problem and baba will call it what it is. why are you judging what baba teaches you? why do you make judgments on labels? why do you judge what it is you apparently see in them? there is nothing wrong but that thinking makes it so. i know thinking is difficult for you.. but you seem capable of just enough of it... to decide you're right and baba is wrong. oh my child! that's just " ghosts of the mind...phantoms of the dark... " to quote a not too bright writer here. why divide what you think is right from what you think is wrong. it's your thinking that is wrong kiddo.. not the stuff you are thereby judging. listen son..i have a few books on logic and logistics.. i'll send them too you if you ever get off your high horse. if you believe you're not on a horse.. what exactly are you high on? something is so bizarre about your stupid attempts to sound profound. what you write is so wakeless and superficial. that for you to consider it lessons in wisdom... is so delusional that i pity you. the only way you will ever learn is to unplug your ears and listen. but you're too busy yapping frilly, meaningless, absurdities to hear. he who has ears to hear..let him hear. he who has not..let him stay in his crib.... LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam > > > > > > > > > > <diana.shellam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who removes them? the one thats wanting to > > escape? > > > > > > diana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " > > > > > > <jeusisbuen@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no good and no evil. In every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concrete situation there is only the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary and the unnecessary. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needful is right, the needless is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The situation decides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every situation is a challenge which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demands the right response. When the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > response is right, the challenge is met > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem ceases. If the response > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is wrong, the challenge is not met and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem remains unsolved. Your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unsolved problems - that is what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutes your karma. Solve them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rightly and be free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My question:What the hell is he talking > > about > > > > > > anyway? > > > > > > > > Every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation I every saw got the only response > > it > > > > could > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > gotten. Z > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...your true nature... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you are your true nature...no problems... > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you take yourself for what you are not... > > > > > > > > > > > > > then that is ignoring your true nature, and > > the > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh shit! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give it up kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll never 'get it' this dumb-ass way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always assisting my little pumpkin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from above: > > > > > > > > > > > " When the response is right, > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is met and the problem ceases. > > > > > > > > > > > If the response is wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is not met and the problem remains > > > > unsolved. > > > > > > > > > > > Your unsolved problems - that is what constitutes > > your > > > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > > Solve them rightly and be free. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first...explain...what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'iietsa'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the only explanation needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your state of difficulty that needs to be > > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your source of difficulty... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your question raised for consideration or > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an effort that is inconvenient... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a factor causing trouble in achieving a positive > > result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or tending to produce a negative result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the quality of being difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa's it's name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horseshit's it's game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you could have learned this in class... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you had attended elementary school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but alas..it's evident that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh what's the use.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all you have are dumb questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you judge (me), as one with all the dumb questions... > > > > > > > > but can you explain what a problem is ? > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what i said above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reread and try and comprehend the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know it's that lack of schooling deal.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but asking again after being answered quite clearly > > > > beforehand.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well..it's just stupid of you to do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again and again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let's try again: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now do we need to go over 'difficulty' again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i realize this is difficult for you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but christ almighty son... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can't be that dense for being that which you say you > > are > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be resolved... > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well good..you seem to now know what a problem is.... > > > > > > > > > > if you say you don't have one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double good, no need to explain to you what a problem is. > > > > > > > > > > again you state that you don't have a 'problem'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > triple whammy..three times you say you understand what a > > problem > > > > is! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...is there perhaps something wrong with me > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called problems ?... > > > > > > ...you must try harder to make me understand your wisdom... > > > > > > dont give up...again, tell me what is a problem ? > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say it's no problem for you three fucking times... > > > > > > > > > > you're really a dummy to have to ask.. > > > > > > > > > > what it is that a problem is. > > > > > > > > > > again! > > > > > > > > > > on top of using it as a defining thing about you.. > > > > > > > > > > that you have no problem. > > > > > > > > > > THAT'S a problem sonny. > > > > > > > > > > you don't have the slightest idea what you're trying to say.. > > > > > > > > > > just more bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > the only one you're fooling with this nonsense is iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > not that that's a terribly difficult thing to do. > > > > > > > > > > you really are just a child.... > > > > > > > > > > talking out his ass. > > > > > > > > > > grow up. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is... > > > > and thats why I dont have one... > > > > ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be investigated > > by > > > > one who have not yet understood... > > > > ...when you take me for a " dummy " or a " child " or whatever... > > > > ...or when you judge something " bullshit " ... > > > > you have already ignored your true nature, > > > > by holding on to the old road of darkness... > > > > to investigate openly one cannot bring about old judgements or > > > > labels... > > > > let the new light of receptive listening into the room... > > > > and darkness will disappear like a drop of water into the sea... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > children's games are what children play. > > > > > > why did you ask for an explanation for what a 'problem is'.. > > > > > > and now because you are caught in your own trap... > > > > > > of saying that you don't have what you don't know... > > > > > > you back up..turn around...cower...and change your story? > > > > > > iietsa you are a child. > > > > > > being right even when your wrong is so important to you. > > > > > > you have an incredibly small mind for such a big ego. > > > > > > you asked: > > > > > > " is there perhaps something wrong with me.. > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called problems ?.. " > > > > > > you're all wet kid > > > > > > you have a lot of problems.. > > > > > > people who believe that they don't give proof thereby that they do. > > > > > > that's the something that's wrong with you. > > > > > > you're just a north country tyke.. > > > > > > who's so full of himself... > > > > > > who can't admit his errors so obvious to others.. > > > > > > are you an only child? > > > > > > spoiled? > > > > > > you're old man should give you a kick in your ass... > > > > > > then maybe all your bullshit... > > > > > > will disappear like a drop of water into the sea... > > > > > > a dirty drop of water. > > > > > > you are deluded son. > > > > > > you're about as enlightened as you are smart.. > > > > > > which means iietsa that you are an uneducated, uninformed, > > ignoramus. > > > > > > the only people who don't have problems.. > > > > > > the only people who are never wrong... > > > > > > the only people who believe they know it all.. > > > > > > are people who: > > > > > > aren't doing anything, trying anything, learning anything. > > > > > > that pretty much sums up your sad sack life and times.. > > > > > > and explains your delusional love of self opinion. > > > > > > as i said.. > > > > > > you ain't got the stuff to handle the truth. > > > > > > you're afraid of admitting you were wrong.. > > > > > > and go to even greater foolish lengths.. > > > > > > and make even more foolish statements.. > > > > > > in order to maintain your 'self image'. > > > > > > if you don't lose that 'self', and 'need to be right' notion.. > > > > > > you will never go anywhere further than where you are stuck... > > > > > > in the fantasy world of children. > > > > > > i think you need a goodnight story and a good nap... > > > > > > but hell...you're already asleep. > > > > > > so sad. > > > > > > by the way kiddo.. > > > > > > saying: > > > > > > " yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is...and thats why I > > dont > > > > > > have one... " > > > > > > doesn't make any sense..it's nonsequitur...stupid really. > > > > > > that's like saying.. > > > > > > " i know perfectly well what a mind, body, life...ad infinitum.. > > is.. > > > > > > ...and that's why i don't have one " > > > > > > and then you compound this nonsense and go on to say: > > > > > > " ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be investigated > > by > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... " > > > > > > understood what? > > > > > > understood that illogical first statement? > > > > > > that's just dumb. > > > > > > as long as there is a 'someone' to 'investigate' anything.. > > > > > > there is only delusion and darkness. > > > > > > you have years to grow and miles to go. > > > > > > sleep little darlin' do not cry. > > > > > > it's fun to have kids about the room. > > > > > > they make us giggle. > > > > > > your mentor, > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > what do you get from judging what you see... > > why create devision where there is none... > > labels and judgementals is only ghosts of the mind... > > phantoms of the dark... > > ...iietsa > > > > > now why would it concern a he who is not.. > > what a he who is..is getting from anything? > > besides my child.. > > i judge not. > > i point out what you have said... not what you have not said.. > > if what you have said (even as the 'you' who is not).. > > makes no sense.. > > i will say that it makes no sense. > > that's not judging son..that's just pointing to fact. > > that's teaching you the right path. > > if you refuse the lessons and persist in your folly.. > > that's your problem and baba will call it what it is. > > why are you judging what baba teaches you? > > why do you make judgments on labels? > > why do you judge what it is you apparently see in them? > > there is nothing wrong but that thinking makes it so. > > i know thinking is difficult for you.. > > but you seem capable of just enough of it... > > to decide you're right and baba is wrong. > > oh my child! > > that's just " ghosts of the mind...phantoms of the dark... " > > to quote a not too bright writer here. > > why divide what you think is right from what you think is wrong. > > it's your thinking that is wrong kiddo.. > > not the stuff you are thereby judging. > > listen son..i have a few books on logic and logistics.. > > i'll send them too you if you ever get off your high horse. > > if you believe you're not on a horse.. > > what exactly are you high on? > > something is so bizarre about your stupid attempts to sound profound. > > what you write is so wakeless and superficial. > > that for you to consider it lessons in wisdom... > > is so delusional that i pity you. > > the only way you will ever learn is to unplug your ears and listen. > > but you're too busy yapping frilly, meaningless, absurdities to hear. > > he who has ears to hear..let him hear. > > he who has not..let him stay in his crib.... > > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > of course you have a few books... there has never been the idea that you did not... ....you just hang on to that collection of yours... ....they make you a beautyful parrot... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , diana > shellam > > > > > > > > > > > <diana.shellam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who removes them? the one thats wanting to > > > escape? > > > > > > > diana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " > > > > > > > <jeusisbuen@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no good and no evil. In every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concrete situation there is only the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary and the unnecessary. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needful is right, the needless is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The situation decides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every situation is a challenge which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demands the right response. When the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > response is right, the challenge is met > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem ceases. If the response > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is wrong, the challenge is not met and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem remains unsolved. Your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unsolved problems - that is what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutes your karma. Solve them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rightly and be free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My question:What the hell is he talking > > > about > > > > > > > anyway? > > > > > > > > > Every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation I every saw got the only > response > > > it > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > gotten. Z > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...your true nature... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you are your true nature...no > problems... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you take yourself for what you are > not... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then that is ignoring your true nature, > and > > > the > > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh shit! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give it up kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll never 'get it' this dumb-ass way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always assisting my little pumpkin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from above: > > > > > > > > > > > > " When the response is right, > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is met and the problem ceases. > > > > > > > > > > > > If the response is wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is not met and the problem > remains > > > > > unsolved. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your unsolved problems - that is what > constitutes > > > your > > > > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > Solve them rightly and be free. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first...explain...what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'iietsa'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the only explanation needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your state of difficulty that needs to be > > > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your source of difficulty... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your question raised for consideration or > > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an effort that is inconvenient... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a factor causing trouble in achieving a positive > > > result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or tending to produce a negative result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the quality of being difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa's it's name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horseshit's it's game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you could have learned this in class... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you had attended elementary school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but alas..it's evident that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh what's the use.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all you have are dumb questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you judge (me), as one with all the dumb > questions... > > > > > > > > > but can you explain what a problem is ? > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what i said above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reread and try and comprehend the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know it's that lack of schooling deal.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but asking again after being answered quite clearly > > > > > beforehand.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well..it's just stupid of you to do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again and again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let's try again: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now do we need to go over 'difficulty' again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i realize this is difficult for you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but christ almighty son... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can't be that dense for being that which you say > you > > > are > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be resolved... > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well good..you seem to now know what a problem is.... > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say you don't have one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double good, no need to explain to you what a problem is. > > > > > > > > > > > > again you state that you don't have a 'problem'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > triple whammy..three times you say you understand what a > > > problem > > > > > is! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...is there perhaps something wrong with me > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called problems ?... > > > > > > > ...you must try harder to make me understand your > wisdom... > > > > > > > dont give up...again, tell me what is a problem ? > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say it's no problem for you three fucking times... > > > > > > > > > > > > you're really a dummy to have to ask.. > > > > > > > > > > > > what it is that a problem is. > > > > > > > > > > > > again! > > > > > > > > > > > > on top of using it as a defining thing about you.. > > > > > > > > > > > > that you have no problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > THAT'S a problem sonny. > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't have the slightest idea what you're trying to > say.. > > > > > > > > > > > > just more bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > the only one you're fooling with this nonsense is iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > not that that's a terribly difficult thing to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > you really are just a child.... > > > > > > > > > > > > talking out his ass. > > > > > > > > > > > > grow up. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is... > > > > > and thats why I dont have one... > > > > > ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be > investigated > > > by > > > > > one who have not yet understood... > > > > > ...when you take me for a " dummy " or a " child " or whatever... > > > > > ...or when you judge something " bullshit " ... > > > > > you have already ignored your true nature, > > > > > by holding on to the old road of darkness... > > > > > to investigate openly one cannot bring about old judgements > or > > > > > labels... > > > > > let the new light of receptive listening into the room... > > > > > and darkness will disappear like a drop of water into the > sea... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > children's games are what children play. > > > > > > > > why did you ask for an explanation for what a 'problem is'.. > > > > > > > > and now because you are caught in your own trap... > > > > > > > > of saying that you don't have what you don't know... > > > > > > > > you back up..turn around...cower...and change your story? > > > > > > > > iietsa you are a child. > > > > > > > > being right even when your wrong is so important to you. > > > > > > > > you have an incredibly small mind for such a big ego. > > > > > > > > you asked: > > > > > > > > " is there perhaps something wrong with me.. > > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called problems ?.. " > > > > > > > > you're all wet kid > > > > > > > > you have a lot of problems.. > > > > > > > > people who believe that they don't give proof thereby that > they do. > > > > > > > > that's the something that's wrong with you. > > > > > > > > you're just a north country tyke.. > > > > > > > > who's so full of himself... > > > > > > > > who can't admit his errors so obvious to others.. > > > > > > > > are you an only child? > > > > > > > > spoiled? > > > > > > > > you're old man should give you a kick in your ass... > > > > > > > > then maybe all your bullshit... > > > > > > > > will disappear like a drop of water into the sea... > > > > > > > > a dirty drop of water. > > > > > > > > you are deluded son. > > > > > > > > you're about as enlightened as you are smart.. > > > > > > > > which means iietsa that you are an uneducated, uninformed, > > > ignoramus. > > > > > > > > the only people who don't have problems.. > > > > > > > > the only people who are never wrong... > > > > > > > > the only people who believe they know it all.. > > > > > > > > are people who: > > > > > > > > aren't doing anything, trying anything, learning anything. > > > > > > > > that pretty much sums up your sad sack life and times.. > > > > > > > > and explains your delusional love of self opinion. > > > > > > > > as i said.. > > > > > > > > you ain't got the stuff to handle the truth. > > > > > > > > you're afraid of admitting you were wrong.. > > > > > > > > and go to even greater foolish lengths.. > > > > > > > > and make even more foolish statements.. > > > > > > > > in order to maintain your 'self image'. > > > > > > > > if you don't lose that 'self', and 'need to be right' notion.. > > > > > > > > you will never go anywhere further than where you are stuck... > > > > > > > > in the fantasy world of children. > > > > > > > > i think you need a goodnight story and a good nap... > > > > > > > > but hell...you're already asleep. > > > > > > > > so sad. > > > > > > > > by the way kiddo.. > > > > > > > > saying: > > > > > > > > " yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is...and thats why > I > > > dont > > > > > > > > have one... " > > > > > > > > doesn't make any sense..it's nonsequitur...stupid really. > > > > > > > > that's like saying.. > > > > > > > > " i know perfectly well what a mind, body, life...ad > infinitum.. > > > is.. > > > > > > > > ...and that's why i don't have one " > > > > > > > > and then you compound this nonsense and go on to say: > > > > > > > > " ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be > investigated > > > by > > > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... " > > > > > > > > understood what? > > > > > > > > understood that illogical first statement? > > > > > > > > that's just dumb. > > > > > > > > as long as there is a 'someone' to 'investigate' anything.. > > > > > > > > there is only delusion and darkness. > > > > > > > > you have years to grow and miles to go. > > > > > > > > sleep little darlin' do not cry. > > > > > > > > it's fun to have kids about the room. > > > > > > > > they make us giggle. > > > > > > > > your mentor, > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you get from judging what you see... > > > why create devision where there is none... > > > labels and judgementals is only ghosts of the mind... > > > phantoms of the dark... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > now why would it concern a he who is not.. > > > > what a he who is..is getting from anything? > > > > besides my child.. > > > > i judge not. > > > > i point out what you have said... not what you have not said.. > > > > if what you have said (even as the 'you' who is not).. > > > > makes no sense.. > > > > i will say that it makes no sense. > > > > that's not judging son..that's just pointing to fact. > > > > that's teaching you the right path. > > > > if you refuse the lessons and persist in your folly.. > > > > that's your problem and baba will call it what it is. > > > > why are you judging what baba teaches you? > > > > why do you make judgments on labels? > > > > why do you judge what it is you apparently see in them? > > > > there is nothing wrong but that thinking makes it so. > > > > i know thinking is difficult for you.. > > > > but you seem capable of just enough of it... > > > > to decide you're right and baba is wrong. > > > > oh my child! > > > > that's just " ghosts of the mind...phantoms of the dark... " > > > > to quote a not too bright writer here. > > > > why divide what you think is right from what you think is wrong. > > > > it's your thinking that is wrong kiddo.. > > > > not the stuff you are thereby judging. > > > > listen son..i have a few books on logic and logistics.. > > > > i'll send them too you if you ever get off your high horse. > > > > if you believe you're not on a horse.. > > > > what exactly are you high on? > > > > something is so bizarre about your stupid attempts to sound > profound. > > > > what you write is so wakeless and superficial. > > > > that for you to consider it lessons in wisdom... > > > > is so delusional that i pity you. > > > > the only way you will ever learn is to unplug your ears and listen. > > > > but you're too busy yapping frilly, meaningless, absurdities to > hear. > > > > he who has ears to hear..let him hear. > > > > he who has not..let him stay in his crib.... > > > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > of course you have a few books... > there has never been the idea that you did not... > ...you just hang on to that collection of yours... > ...they make you a beautyful parrot... > ...iietsa poor kid. you missed the whole fucking point again. baba's beginning to get the idea... that you are just too dense... to hear anything but your misguided and stupid presuppositions. alas..many are called...few are chosen.. and some very few nitwits can't even hear the dinner bell. eat your birdseed than kiddo. it's your loss... but then...you've got nothing to lose.. you don't have the stuff...as we say in the parlance of the wise. since you seem unable to commune with wisdom.. please feel free to continue to play with yourself. it's funny to look at. and we all here enjoy a good farce and comedy. you're the best kid! 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Guest guest Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , diana > > shellam > > > > > > > > > > > > <diana.shellam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who removes them? the one thats wanting to > > > > escape? > > > > > > > > diana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " tom " > > > > > > > > <jeusisbuen@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no good and no evil. In every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concrete situation there is only the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary and the unnecessary. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needful is right, the needless is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The situation decides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every situation is a challenge which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demands the right response. When the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > response is right, the challenge is met > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem ceases. If the response > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is wrong, the challenge is not met and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem remains unsolved. Your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unsolved problems - that is what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutes your karma. Solve them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rightly and be free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My question:What the hell is he talking > > > > about > > > > > > > > anyway? > > > > > > > > > > Every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation I every saw got the only > > response > > > > it > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > gotten. Z > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...your true nature... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you are your true nature...no > > problems... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you take yourself for what you are > > not... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then that is ignoring your true nature, > > and > > > > the > > > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh shit! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give it up kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll never 'get it' this dumb-ass way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always assisting my little pumpkin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from above: > > > > > > > > > > > > > " When the response is right, > > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is met and the problem ceases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the response is wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is not met and the problem > > remains > > > > > > unsolved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your unsolved problems - that is what > > constitutes > > > > your > > > > > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solve them rightly and be free. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first...explain...what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'iietsa'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the only explanation needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your state of difficulty that needs to be > > > > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your source of difficulty... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your question raised for consideration or > > > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an effort that is inconvenient... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a factor causing trouble in achieving a positive > > > > result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or tending to produce a negative result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the quality of being difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa's it's name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horseshit's it's game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you could have learned this in class... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you had attended elementary school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but alas..it's evident that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh what's the use.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all you have are dumb questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you judge (me), as one with all the dumb > > questions... > > > > > > > > > > but can you explain what a problem is ? > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what i said above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reread and try and comprehend the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know it's that lack of schooling deal.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but asking again after being answered quite clearly > > > > > > beforehand.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well..it's just stupid of you to do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again and again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let's try again: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now do we need to go over 'difficulty' again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i realize this is difficult for you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but christ almighty son... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can't be that dense for being that which you say > > you > > > > are > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be resolved... > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well good..you seem to now know what a problem is.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say you don't have one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double good, no need to explain to you what a problem is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again you state that you don't have a 'problem'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > triple whammy..three times you say you understand what a > > > > problem > > > > > > is! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...is there perhaps something wrong with me > > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called problems ?... > > > > > > > > ...you must try harder to make me understand your > > wisdom... > > > > > > > > dont give up...again, tell me what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say it's no problem for you three fucking times... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're really a dummy to have to ask.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what it is that a problem is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on top of using it as a defining thing about you.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that you have no problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THAT'S a problem sonny. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't have the slightest idea what you're trying to > > say.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just more bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only one you're fooling with this nonsense is iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not that that's a terribly difficult thing to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you really are just a child.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talking out his ass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grow up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is... > > > > > > and thats why I dont have one... > > > > > > ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be > > investigated > > > > by > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... > > > > > > ...when you take me for a " dummy " or a " child " or whatever... > > > > > > ...or when you judge something " bullshit " ... > > > > > > you have already ignored your true nature, > > > > > > by holding on to the old road of darkness... > > > > > > to investigate openly one cannot bring about old judgements > > or > > > > > > labels... > > > > > > let the new light of receptive listening into the room... > > > > > > and darkness will disappear like a drop of water into the > > sea... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children's games are what children play. > > > > > > > > > > why did you ask for an explanation for what a 'problem is'.. > > > > > > > > > > and now because you are caught in your own trap... > > > > > > > > > > of saying that you don't have what you don't know... > > > > > > > > > > you back up..turn around...cower...and change your story? > > > > > > > > > > iietsa you are a child. > > > > > > > > > > being right even when your wrong is so important to you. > > > > > > > > > > you have an incredibly small mind for such a big ego. > > > > > > > > > > you asked: > > > > > > > > > > " is there perhaps something wrong with me.. > > > > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called problems ?.. " > > > > > > > > > > you're all wet kid > > > > > > > > > > you have a lot of problems.. > > > > > > > > > > people who believe that they don't give proof thereby that > > they do. > > > > > > > > > > that's the something that's wrong with you. > > > > > > > > > > you're just a north country tyke.. > > > > > > > > > > who's so full of himself... > > > > > > > > > > who can't admit his errors so obvious to others.. > > > > > > > > > > are you an only child? > > > > > > > > > > spoiled? > > > > > > > > > > you're old man should give you a kick in your ass... > > > > > > > > > > then maybe all your bullshit... > > > > > > > > > > will disappear like a drop of water into the sea... > > > > > > > > > > a dirty drop of water. > > > > > > > > > > you are deluded son. > > > > > > > > > > you're about as enlightened as you are smart.. > > > > > > > > > > which means iietsa that you are an uneducated, uninformed, > > > > ignoramus. > > > > > > > > > > the only people who don't have problems.. > > > > > > > > > > the only people who are never wrong... > > > > > > > > > > the only people who believe they know it all.. > > > > > > > > > > are people who: > > > > > > > > > > aren't doing anything, trying anything, learning anything. > > > > > > > > > > that pretty much sums up your sad sack life and times.. > > > > > > > > > > and explains your delusional love of self opinion. > > > > > > > > > > as i said.. > > > > > > > > > > you ain't got the stuff to handle the truth. > > > > > > > > > > you're afraid of admitting you were wrong.. > > > > > > > > > > and go to even greater foolish lengths.. > > > > > > > > > > and make even more foolish statements.. > > > > > > > > > > in order to maintain your 'self image'. > > > > > > > > > > if you don't lose that 'self', and 'need to be right' notion.. > > > > > > > > > > you will never go anywhere further than where you are stuck... > > > > > > > > > > in the fantasy world of children. > > > > > > > > > > i think you need a goodnight story and a good nap... > > > > > > > > > > but hell...you're already asleep. > > > > > > > > > > so sad. > > > > > > > > > > by the way kiddo.. > > > > > > > > > > saying: > > > > > > > > > > " yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is...and thats why > > I > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > have one... " > > > > > > > > > > doesn't make any sense..it's nonsequitur...stupid really. > > > > > > > > > > that's like saying.. > > > > > > > > > > " i know perfectly well what a mind, body, life...ad > > infinitum.. > > > > is.. > > > > > > > > > > ...and that's why i don't have one " > > > > > > > > > > and then you compound this nonsense and go on to say: > > > > > > > > > > " ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be > > investigated > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... " > > > > > > > > > > understood what? > > > > > > > > > > understood that illogical first statement? > > > > > > > > > > that's just dumb. > > > > > > > > > > as long as there is a 'someone' to 'investigate' anything.. > > > > > > > > > > there is only delusion and darkness. > > > > > > > > > > you have years to grow and miles to go. > > > > > > > > > > sleep little darlin' do not cry. > > > > > > > > > > it's fun to have kids about the room. > > > > > > > > > > they make us giggle. > > > > > > > > > > your mentor, > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you get from judging what you see... > > > > why create devision where there is none... > > > > labels and judgementals is only ghosts of the mind... > > > > phantoms of the dark... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now why would it concern a he who is not.. > > > > > > what a he who is..is getting from anything? > > > > > > besides my child.. > > > > > > i judge not. > > > > > > i point out what you have said... not what you have not said.. > > > > > > if what you have said (even as the 'you' who is not).. > > > > > > makes no sense.. > > > > > > i will say that it makes no sense. > > > > > > that's not judging son..that's just pointing to fact. > > > > > > that's teaching you the right path. > > > > > > if you refuse the lessons and persist in your folly.. > > > > > > that's your problem and baba will call it what it is. > > > > > > why are you judging what baba teaches you? > > > > > > why do you make judgments on labels? > > > > > > why do you judge what it is you apparently see in them? > > > > > > there is nothing wrong but that thinking makes it so. > > > > > > i know thinking is difficult for you.. > > > > > > but you seem capable of just enough of it... > > > > > > to decide you're right and baba is wrong. > > > > > > oh my child! > > > > > > that's just " ghosts of the mind...phantoms of the dark... " > > > > > > to quote a not too bright writer here. > > > > > > why divide what you think is right from what you think is wrong. > > > > > > it's your thinking that is wrong kiddo.. > > > > > > not the stuff you are thereby judging. > > > > > > listen son..i have a few books on logic and logistics.. > > > > > > i'll send them too you if you ever get off your high horse. > > > > > > if you believe you're not on a horse.. > > > > > > what exactly are you high on? > > > > > > something is so bizarre about your stupid attempts to sound > > profound. > > > > > > what you write is so wakeless and superficial. > > > > > > that for you to consider it lessons in wisdom... > > > > > > is so delusional that i pity you. > > > > > > the only way you will ever learn is to unplug your ears and listen. > > > > > > but you're too busy yapping frilly, meaningless, absurdities to > > hear. > > > > > > he who has ears to hear..let him hear. > > > > > > he who has not..let him stay in his crib.... > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > of course you have a few books... > > there has never been the idea that you did not... > > ...you just hang on to that collection of yours... > > ...they make you a beautyful parrot... > > ...iietsa > > > poor kid. > > you missed the whole fucking point again. > > baba's beginning to get the idea... > > that you are just too dense... > > to hear anything but your misguided and stupid presuppositions. > > alas..many are called...few are chosen.. > > and some very few nitwits can't even hear the dinner bell. > > eat your birdseed than kiddo. > > it's your loss... > > but then...you've got nothing to lose.. > > you don't have the stuff...as we say in the parlance of the wise. > > since you seem unable to commune with wisdom.. > > please feel free to continue to play with yourself. > > it's funny to look at. > > and we all here enjoy a good farce and comedy. > > you're the best kid! > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > do you have to make a fight out of everything...? even a blind man can see the resistance behind all your words... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , diana > > > shellam > > > > > > > > > > > > > <diana.shellam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who removes them? the one thats > wanting to > > > > > escape? > > > > > > > > > diana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " tom " > > > > > > > > > <jeusisbuen@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no good and no evil. In > every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concrete situation there is only the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary and the unnecessary. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needful is right, the needless is > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The situation decides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every situation is a challenge which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demands the right response. When the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > response is right, the challenge is > met > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem ceases. If the > response > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is wrong, the challenge is not met > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem remains unsolved. Your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unsolved problems - that is what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutes your karma. Solve them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rightly and be free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My question:What the hell is he > talking > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > anyway? > > > > > > > > > > > Every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation I every saw got the only > > > response > > > > > it > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gotten. Z > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...your true nature... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you are your true nature...no > > > problems... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you take yourself for what you > are > > > not... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then that is ignoring your true > nature, > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh shit! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give it up kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll never 'get it' this dumb-ass way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always assisting my little pumpkin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from above: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " When the response is right, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is met and the problem > ceases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the response is wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is not met and the problem > > > remains > > > > > > > unsolved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your unsolved problems - that is what > > > constitutes > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solve them rightly and be free. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first...explain...what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'iietsa'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the only explanation needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your state of difficulty that needs to > be > > > > > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your source of difficulty... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your question raised for consideration > or > > > > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an effort that is inconvenient... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a factor causing trouble in achieving a > positive > > > > > result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or tending to produce a negative result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the quality of being difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa's it's name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horseshit's it's game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you could have learned this in class... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you had attended elementary school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but alas..it's evident that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh what's the use.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all you have are dumb questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you judge (me), as one with all the dumb > > > questions... > > > > > > > > > > > but can you explain what a problem is ? > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what i said above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reread and try and comprehend the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know it's that lack of schooling deal.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but asking again after being answered quite > clearly > > > > > > > beforehand.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well..it's just stupid of you to do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again and again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let's try again: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now do we need to go over 'difficulty' again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i realize this is difficult for you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but christ almighty son... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can't be that dense for being that which you > say > > > you > > > > > are > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be > resolved... > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well good..you seem to now know what a problem is.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say you don't have one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double good, no need to explain to you what a problem > is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again you state that you don't have a 'problem'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > triple whammy..three times you say you understand what > a > > > > > problem > > > > > > > is! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...is there perhaps something wrong with me > > > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called > problems ?... > > > > > > > > > ...you must try harder to make me understand your > > > wisdom... > > > > > > > > > dont give up...again, tell me what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say it's no problem for you three fucking > times... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're really a dummy to have to ask.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what it is that a problem is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on top of using it as a defining thing about you.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that you have no problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THAT'S a problem sonny. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't have the slightest idea what you're trying > to > > > say.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just more bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only one you're fooling with this nonsense is > iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not that that's a terribly difficult thing to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you really are just a child.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talking out his ass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grow up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is... > > > > > > > and thats why I dont have one... > > > > > > > ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be > > > investigated > > > > > by > > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... > > > > > > > ...when you take me for a " dummy " or a " child " or > whatever... > > > > > > > ...or when you judge something " bullshit " ... > > > > > > > you have already ignored your true nature, > > > > > > > by holding on to the old road of darkness... > > > > > > > to investigate openly one cannot bring about old > judgements > > > or > > > > > > > labels... > > > > > > > let the new light of receptive listening into the room... > > > > > > > and darkness will disappear like a drop of water into > the > > > sea... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children's games are what children play. > > > > > > > > > > > > why did you ask for an explanation for what a 'problem > is'.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and now because you are caught in your own trap... > > > > > > > > > > > > of saying that you don't have what you don't know... > > > > > > > > > > > > you back up..turn around...cower...and change your story? > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa you are a child. > > > > > > > > > > > > being right even when your wrong is so important to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > you have an incredibly small mind for such a big ego. > > > > > > > > > > > > you asked: > > > > > > > > > > > > " is there perhaps something wrong with me.. > > > > > > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called problems ?.. " > > > > > > > > > > > > you're all wet kid > > > > > > > > > > > > you have a lot of problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > people who believe that they don't give proof thereby that > > > they do. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the something that's wrong with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > you're just a north country tyke.. > > > > > > > > > > > > who's so full of himself... > > > > > > > > > > > > who can't admit his errors so obvious to others.. > > > > > > > > > > > > are you an only child? > > > > > > > > > > > > spoiled? > > > > > > > > > > > > you're old man should give you a kick in your ass... > > > > > > > > > > > > then maybe all your bullshit... > > > > > > > > > > > > will disappear like a drop of water into the sea... > > > > > > > > > > > > a dirty drop of water. > > > > > > > > > > > > you are deluded son. > > > > > > > > > > > > you're about as enlightened as you are smart.. > > > > > > > > > > > > which means iietsa that you are an uneducated, uninformed, > > > > > ignoramus. > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who don't have problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who are never wrong... > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who believe they know it all.. > > > > > > > > > > > > are people who: > > > > > > > > > > > > aren't doing anything, trying anything, learning anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > that pretty much sums up your sad sack life and times.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and explains your delusional love of self opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > as i said.. > > > > > > > > > > > > you ain't got the stuff to handle the truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > you're afraid of admitting you were wrong.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and go to even greater foolish lengths.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and make even more foolish statements.. > > > > > > > > > > > > in order to maintain your 'self image'. > > > > > > > > > > > > if you don't lose that 'self', and 'need to be right' > notion.. > > > > > > > > > > > > you will never go anywhere further than where you are > stuck... > > > > > > > > > > > > in the fantasy world of children. > > > > > > > > > > > > i think you need a goodnight story and a good nap... > > > > > > > > > > > > but hell...you're already asleep. > > > > > > > > > > > > so sad. > > > > > > > > > > > > by the way kiddo.. > > > > > > > > > > > > saying: > > > > > > > > > > > > " yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is...and thats > why > > > I > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > have one... " > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't make any sense..it's nonsequitur...stupid really. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's like saying.. > > > > > > > > > > > > " i know perfectly well what a mind, body, life...ad > > > infinitum.. > > > > > is.. > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and that's why i don't have one " > > > > > > > > > > > > and then you compound this nonsense and go on to say: > > > > > > > > > > > > " ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be > > > investigated > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... " > > > > > > > > > > > > understood what? > > > > > > > > > > > > understood that illogical first statement? > > > > > > > > > > > > that's just dumb. > > > > > > > > > > > > as long as there is a 'someone' to 'investigate' anything.. > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only delusion and darkness. > > > > > > > > > > > > you have years to grow and miles to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > sleep little darlin' do not cry. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's fun to have kids about the room. > > > > > > > > > > > > they make us giggle. > > > > > > > > > > > > your mentor, > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you get from judging what you see... > > > > > why create devision where there is none... > > > > > labels and judgementals is only ghosts of the mind... > > > > > phantoms of the dark... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now why would it concern a he who is not.. > > > > > > > > what a he who is..is getting from anything? > > > > > > > > besides my child.. > > > > > > > > i judge not. > > > > > > > > i point out what you have said... not what you have not said.. > > > > > > > > if what you have said (even as the 'you' who is not).. > > > > > > > > makes no sense.. > > > > > > > > i will say that it makes no sense. > > > > > > > > that's not judging son..that's just pointing to fact. > > > > > > > > that's teaching you the right path. > > > > > > > > if you refuse the lessons and persist in your folly.. > > > > > > > > that's your problem and baba will call it what it is. > > > > > > > > why are you judging what baba teaches you? > > > > > > > > why do you make judgments on labels? > > > > > > > > why do you judge what it is you apparently see in them? > > > > > > > > there is nothing wrong but that thinking makes it so. > > > > > > > > i know thinking is difficult for you.. > > > > > > > > but you seem capable of just enough of it... > > > > > > > > to decide you're right and baba is wrong. > > > > > > > > oh my child! > > > > > > > > that's just " ghosts of the mind...phantoms of the dark... " > > > > > > > > to quote a not too bright writer here. > > > > > > > > why divide what you think is right from what you think is > wrong. > > > > > > > > it's your thinking that is wrong kiddo.. > > > > > > > > not the stuff you are thereby judging. > > > > > > > > listen son..i have a few books on logic and logistics.. > > > > > > > > i'll send them too you if you ever get off your high horse. > > > > > > > > if you believe you're not on a horse.. > > > > > > > > what exactly are you high on? > > > > > > > > something is so bizarre about your stupid attempts to sound > > > profound. > > > > > > > > what you write is so wakeless and superficial. > > > > > > > > that for you to consider it lessons in wisdom... > > > > > > > > is so delusional that i pity you. > > > > > > > > the only way you will ever learn is to unplug your ears and > listen. > > > > > > > > but you're too busy yapping frilly, meaningless, absurdities > to > > > hear. > > > > > > > > he who has ears to hear..let him hear. > > > > > > > > he who has not..let him stay in his crib.... > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > of course you have a few books... > > > there has never been the idea that you did not... > > > ...you just hang on to that collection of yours... > > > ...they make you a beautyful parrot... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > poor kid. > > > > you missed the whole fucking point again. > > > > baba's beginning to get the idea... > > > > that you are just too dense... > > > > to hear anything but your misguided and stupid presuppositions. > > > > alas..many are called...few are chosen.. > > > > and some very few nitwits can't even hear the dinner bell. > > > > eat your birdseed than kiddo. > > > > it's your loss... > > > > but then...you've got nothing to lose.. > > > > you don't have the stuff...as we say in the parlance of the wise. > > > > since you seem unable to commune with wisdom.. > > > > please feel free to continue to play with yourself. > > > > it's funny to look at. > > > > and we all here enjoy a good farce and comedy. > > > > you're the best kid! > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > do you have to make a fight out of everything...? > even a blind man can see the resistance behind all your words... > ...iietsa what fight? toying with you child is hardly a fight. but admitting that your blind... and seeing things in your imagination.. is funny as all get out. do you have to fight dragons and warlocks in your restless dreams too? iietsa you just don't know how to have fun. be at ease and at peace. quit trying to be a sage. that trying that will never succeed. just get real kid and cut out your nonsense. i'm sure that you're a nice boy under that phony bullshit of yours. don't resist the truth of who you are.. stop babbling about who you are not.. grow up and get a life. hey kiddo...we're all one remember. no need to atone for sins when one is at-one-ment. and do try and stop judging my posts as 'making a fight'. that's downright silly son. i mean for a child who says don't judge.. that's ALL you ever do. I'm having fun not warring with you. now..that would be silly..and unfair too. you wouldn't stand a chance of not being defeated... if i were 'fight' you. so therefore: calm down.... have a drink of warm chocolate milk.... sit in the corner facing the wall.... and DO try and think about how silly you're being. this is for your own good little shaver. it will serve as a starting place to take a first step to adolescence. if you follow directions i'll be proud of you kiddo. if you come back with more bullshit.. the lessons may have to continue in a more stern way. good luck on your efforts this day! your teacher of truth, ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , diana > > > > shellam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <diana.shellam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who removes them? the one thats > > wanting to > > > > > > escape? > > > > > > > > > > diana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " tom " > > > > > > > > > > <jeusisbuen@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no good and no evil. In > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concrete situation there is only the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary and the unnecessary. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needful is right, the needless is > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The situation decides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every situation is a challenge which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demands the right response. When the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > response is right, the challenge is > > met > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem ceases. If the > > response > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is wrong, the challenge is not met > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem remains unsolved. Your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unsolved problems - that is what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutes your karma. Solve them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rightly and be free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My question:What the hell is he > > talking > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > anyway? > > > > > > > > > > > > Every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation I every saw got the only > > > > response > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gotten. Z > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...your true nature... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you are your true nature...no > > > > problems... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you take yourself for what you > > are > > > > not... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then that is ignoring your true > > nature, > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh shit! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give it up kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll never 'get it' this dumb-ass way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always assisting my little pumpkin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from above: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " When the response is right, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is met and the problem > > ceases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the response is wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is not met and the problem > > > > remains > > > > > > > > unsolved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your unsolved problems - that is what > > > > constitutes > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solve them rightly and be free. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first...explain...what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'iietsa'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the only explanation needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your state of difficulty that needs to > > be > > > > > > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your source of difficulty... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your question raised for consideration > > or > > > > > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an effort that is inconvenient... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a factor causing trouble in achieving a > > positive > > > > > > result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or tending to produce a negative result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the quality of being difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa's it's name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horseshit's it's game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you could have learned this in class... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you had attended elementary school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but alas..it's evident that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh what's the use.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all you have are dumb questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you judge (me), as one with all the dumb > > > > questions... > > > > > > > > > > > > but can you explain what a problem is ? > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what i said above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reread and try and comprehend the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know it's that lack of schooling deal.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but asking again after being answered quite > > clearly > > > > > > > > beforehand.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well..it's just stupid of you to do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again and again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let's try again: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now do we need to go over 'difficulty' again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i realize this is difficult for you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but christ almighty son... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can't be that dense for being that which you > > say > > > > you > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well good..you seem to now know what a problem is.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say you don't have one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double good, no need to explain to you what a problem > > is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again you state that you don't have a 'problem'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or solution. > > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > triple whammy..three times you say you understand what > > a > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > is! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...is there perhaps something wrong with me > > > > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called > > problems ?... > > > > > > > > > > ...you must try harder to make me understand your > > > > wisdom... > > > > > > > > > > dont give up...again, tell me what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say it's no problem for you three fucking > > times... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're really a dummy to have to ask.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what it is that a problem is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on top of using it as a defining thing about you.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that you have no problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THAT'S a problem sonny. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't have the slightest idea what you're trying > > to > > > > say.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just more bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only one you're fooling with this nonsense is > > iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not that that's a terribly difficult thing to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you really are just a child.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talking out his ass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grow up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is... > > > > > > > > and thats why I dont have one... > > > > > > > > ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be > > > > investigated > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... > > > > > > > > ...when you take me for a " dummy " or a " child " or > > whatever... > > > > > > > > ...or when you judge something " bullshit " ... > > > > > > > > you have already ignored your true nature, > > > > > > > > by holding on to the old road of darkness... > > > > > > > > to investigate openly one cannot bring about old > > judgements > > > > or > > > > > > > > labels... > > > > > > > > let the new light of receptive listening into the room... > > > > > > > > and darkness will disappear like a drop of water into > > the > > > > sea... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children's games are what children play. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why did you ask for an explanation for what a 'problem > > is'.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and now because you are caught in your own trap... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of saying that you don't have what you don't know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you back up..turn around...cower...and change your story? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa you are a child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being right even when your wrong is so important to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have an incredibly small mind for such a big ego. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you asked: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " is there perhaps something wrong with me.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called problems ?.. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're all wet kid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have a lot of problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people who believe that they don't give proof thereby that > > > > they do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the something that's wrong with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're just a north country tyke.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's so full of himself... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who can't admit his errors so obvious to others.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are you an only child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spoiled? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're old man should give you a kick in your ass... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then maybe all your bullshit... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will disappear like a drop of water into the sea... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a dirty drop of water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are deluded son. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're about as enlightened as you are smart.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means iietsa that you are an uneducated, uninformed, > > > > > > ignoramus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who don't have problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who are never wrong... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who believe they know it all.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are people who: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aren't doing anything, trying anything, learning anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that pretty much sums up your sad sack life and times.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and explains your delusional love of self opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i said.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you ain't got the stuff to handle the truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're afraid of admitting you were wrong.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and go to even greater foolish lengths.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and make even more foolish statements.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in order to maintain your 'self image'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you don't lose that 'self', and 'need to be right' > > notion.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will never go anywhere further than where you are > > stuck... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the fantasy world of children. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think you need a goodnight story and a good nap... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but hell...you're already asleep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so sad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by the way kiddo.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saying: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is...and thats > > why > > > > I > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have one... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't make any sense..it's nonsequitur...stupid really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's like saying.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " i know perfectly well what a mind, body, life...ad > > > > infinitum.. > > > > > > is.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and that's why i don't have one " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then you compound this nonsense and go on to say: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be > > > > investigated > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understood what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understood that illogical first statement? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's just dumb. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as long as there is a 'someone' to 'investigate' anything.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only delusion and darkness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have years to grow and miles to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sleep little darlin' do not cry. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's fun to have kids about the room. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they make us giggle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your mentor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you get from judging what you see... > > > > > > why create devision where there is none... > > > > > > labels and judgementals is only ghosts of the mind... > > > > > > phantoms of the dark... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now why would it concern a he who is not.. > > > > > > > > > > what a he who is..is getting from anything? > > > > > > > > > > besides my child.. > > > > > > > > > > i judge not. > > > > > > > > > > i point out what you have said... not what you have not said.. > > > > > > > > > > if what you have said (even as the 'you' who is not).. > > > > > > > > > > makes no sense.. > > > > > > > > > > i will say that it makes no sense. > > > > > > > > > > that's not judging son..that's just pointing to fact. > > > > > > > > > > that's teaching you the right path. > > > > > > > > > > if you refuse the lessons and persist in your folly.. > > > > > > > > > > that's your problem and baba will call it what it is. > > > > > > > > > > why are you judging what baba teaches you? > > > > > > > > > > why do you make judgments on labels? > > > > > > > > > > why do you judge what it is you apparently see in them? > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing wrong but that thinking makes it so. > > > > > > > > > > i know thinking is difficult for you.. > > > > > > > > > > but you seem capable of just enough of it... > > > > > > > > > > to decide you're right and baba is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > oh my child! > > > > > > > > > > that's just " ghosts of the mind...phantoms of the dark... " > > > > > > > > > > to quote a not too bright writer here. > > > > > > > > > > why divide what you think is right from what you think is > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > it's your thinking that is wrong kiddo.. > > > > > > > > > > not the stuff you are thereby judging. > > > > > > > > > > listen son..i have a few books on logic and logistics.. > > > > > > > > > > i'll send them too you if you ever get off your high horse. > > > > > > > > > > if you believe you're not on a horse.. > > > > > > > > > > what exactly are you high on? > > > > > > > > > > something is so bizarre about your stupid attempts to sound > > > > profound. > > > > > > > > > > what you write is so wakeless and superficial. > > > > > > > > > > that for you to consider it lessons in wisdom... > > > > > > > > > > is so delusional that i pity you. > > > > > > > > > > the only way you will ever learn is to unplug your ears and > > listen. > > > > > > > > > > but you're too busy yapping frilly, meaningless, absurdities > > to > > > > hear. > > > > > > > > > > he who has ears to hear..let him hear. > > > > > > > > > > he who has not..let him stay in his crib.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of course you have a few books... > > > > there has never been the idea that you did not... > > > > ...you just hang on to that collection of yours... > > > > ...they make you a beautyful parrot... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > poor kid. > > > > > > you missed the whole fucking point again. > > > > > > baba's beginning to get the idea... > > > > > > that you are just too dense... > > > > > > to hear anything but your misguided and stupid presuppositions. > > > > > > alas..many are called...few are chosen.. > > > > > > and some very few nitwits can't even hear the dinner bell. > > > > > > eat your birdseed than kiddo. > > > > > > it's your loss... > > > > > > but then...you've got nothing to lose.. > > > > > > you don't have the stuff...as we say in the parlance of the wise. > > > > > > since you seem unable to commune with wisdom.. > > > > > > please feel free to continue to play with yourself. > > > > > > it's funny to look at. > > > > > > and we all here enjoy a good farce and comedy. > > > > > > you're the best kid! > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > do you have to make a fight out of everything...? > > even a blind man can see the resistance behind all your words... > > ...iietsa > > > what fight? > > toying with you child is hardly a fight. > > but admitting that your blind... > > and seeing things in your imagination.. > > is funny as all get out. > > do you have to fight dragons and warlocks in your restless dreams too? > > iietsa you just don't know how to have fun. > > be at ease and at peace. > > quit trying to be a sage. > > that trying that will never succeed. > > just get real kid and cut out your nonsense. > > i'm sure that you're a nice boy under that phony bullshit of yours. > > don't resist the truth of who you are.. > > stop babbling about who you are not.. > > grow up and get a life. > > hey kiddo...we're all one remember. > > no need to atone for sins when one is at-one-ment. > > and do try and stop judging my posts as 'making a fight'. > > that's downright silly son. > > i mean for a child who says don't judge.. > > that's ALL you ever do. > > I'm having fun not warring with you. > > now..that would be silly..and unfair too. > > you wouldn't stand a chance of not being defeated... > > if i were 'fight' you. > > so therefore: > > calm down.... > > have a drink of warm chocolate milk.... > > sit in the corner facing the wall.... > > and DO try and think about how silly you're being. > > this is for your own good little shaver. > > it will serve as a starting place to take a first step to adolescence. > > if you follow directions i'll be proud of you kiddo. > > if you come back with more bullshit.. > > the lessons may have to continue in a more stern way. > > good luck on your efforts this day! > > your teacher of truth, > > .b b.b. > ....there you go again... taking me for a child...a kid...a boy... ....and taking yourself for a teacher to follow with effort... to take oneself for an object in relation with other objects... is " resistance " ...just as calling this " bullshit " ... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > diana > > > > > shellam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <diana.shellam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who removes them? the one thats > > > wanting to > > > > > > > escape? > > > > > > > > > > > diana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- > In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " > > > > > > > > > > > <jeusisbuen@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no good and no evil. In > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concrete situation there is only > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary and the unnecessary. > The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needful is right, the needless > is > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The situation decides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every situation is a challenge > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demands the right response. When > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > response is right, the challenge > is > > > met > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem ceases. If the > > > response > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is wrong, the challenge is not > met > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem remains unsolved. > Your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unsolved problems - that is what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutes your karma. Solve > them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rightly and be free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My question:What the hell is he > > > talking > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > anyway? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation I every saw got the > only > > > > > response > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gotten. Z > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...your true nature... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you are your true nature...no > > > > > problems... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you take yourself for what > you > > > are > > > > > not... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then that is ignoring your true > > > nature, > > > > > and > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh shit! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give it up kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll never 'get it' this dumb-ass > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always assisting my little pumpkin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from above: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " When the response is right, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is met and the problem > > > ceases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the response is wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is not met and the > problem > > > > > remains > > > > > > > > > unsolved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your unsolved problems - that is what > > > > > constitutes > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solve them rightly and be free. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first...explain...what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'iietsa'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the only explanation needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your state of difficulty that needs > to > > > be > > > > > > > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your source of difficulty... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your question raised for > consideration > > > or > > > > > > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an effort that is inconvenient... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a factor causing trouble in achieving a > > > positive > > > > > > > result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or tending to produce a negative result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the quality of being difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa's it's name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horseshit's it's game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you could have learned this in class... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you had attended elementary school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but alas..it's evident that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh what's the use.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all you have are dumb questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you judge (me), as one with all the dumb > > > > > questions... > > > > > > > > > > > > > but can you explain what a problem is ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what i said above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reread and try and comprehend the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know it's that lack of schooling deal.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but asking again after being answered quite > > > clearly > > > > > > > > > beforehand.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well..it's just stupid of you to do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again and again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let's try again: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now do we need to go over 'difficulty' again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i realize this is difficult for you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but christ almighty son... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can't be that dense for being that which > you > > > say > > > > > you > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well good..you seem to now know what a problem > is.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say you don't have one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double good, no need to explain to you what a > problem > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again you state that you don't have a 'problem'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > triple whammy..three times you say you understand > what > > > a > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > is! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...is there perhaps something wrong with me > > > > > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called > > > problems ?... > > > > > > > > > > > ...you must try harder to make me understand > your > > > > > wisdom... > > > > > > > > > > > dont give up...again, tell me what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say it's no problem for you three fucking > > > times... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're really a dummy to have to ask.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what it is that a problem is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on top of using it as a defining thing about you.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that you have no problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THAT'S a problem sonny. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't have the slightest idea what you're > trying > > > to > > > > > say.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just more bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only one you're fooling with this nonsense is > > > iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not that that's a terribly difficult thing to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you really are just a child.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talking out his ass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grow up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is... > > > > > > > > > and thats why I dont have one... > > > > > > > > > ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be > > > > > investigated > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... > > > > > > > > > ...when you take me for a " dummy " or a " child " or > > > whatever... > > > > > > > > > ...or when you judge something " bullshit " ... > > > > > > > > > you have already ignored your true nature, > > > > > > > > > by holding on to the old road of darkness... > > > > > > > > > to investigate openly one cannot bring about old > > > judgements > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > labels... > > > > > > > > > let the new light of receptive listening into the > room... > > > > > > > > > and darkness will disappear like a drop of water > into > > > the > > > > > sea... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children's games are what children play. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why did you ask for an explanation for what a 'problem > > > is'.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and now because you are caught in your own trap... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of saying that you don't have what you don't know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you back up..turn around...cower...and change your > story? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa you are a child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being right even when your wrong is so important to > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have an incredibly small mind for such a big ego. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you asked: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " is there perhaps something wrong with me.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called > problems ?.. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're all wet kid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have a lot of problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people who believe that they don't give proof thereby > that > > > > > they do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the something that's wrong with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're just a north country tyke.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's so full of himself... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who can't admit his errors so obvious to others.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are you an only child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spoiled? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're old man should give you a kick in your ass... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then maybe all your bullshit... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will disappear like a drop of water into the sea... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a dirty drop of water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are deluded son. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're about as enlightened as you are smart.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means iietsa that you are an uneducated, > uninformed, > > > > > > > ignoramus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who don't have problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who are never wrong... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who believe they know it all.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are people who: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aren't doing anything, trying anything, learning > anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that pretty much sums up your sad sack life and times.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and explains your delusional love of self opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i said.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you ain't got the stuff to handle the truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're afraid of admitting you were wrong.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and go to even greater foolish lengths.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and make even more foolish statements.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in order to maintain your 'self image'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you don't lose that 'self', and 'need to be right' > > > notion.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will never go anywhere further than where you are > > > stuck... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the fantasy world of children. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think you need a goodnight story and a good nap... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but hell...you're already asleep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so sad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by the way kiddo.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saying: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is...and > thats > > > why > > > > > I > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have one... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't make any sense..it's nonsequitur...stupid > really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's like saying.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " i know perfectly well what a mind, body, life...ad > > > > > infinitum.. > > > > > > > is.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and that's why i don't have one " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then you compound this nonsense and go on to say: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be > > > > > investigated > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understood what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understood that illogical first statement? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's just dumb. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as long as there is a 'someone' to 'investigate' > anything.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only delusion and darkness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have years to grow and miles to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sleep little darlin' do not cry. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's fun to have kids about the room. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they make us giggle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your mentor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you get from judging what you see... > > > > > > > why create devision where there is none... > > > > > > > labels and judgementals is only ghosts of the mind... > > > > > > > phantoms of the dark... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now why would it concern a he who is not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > what a he who is..is getting from anything? > > > > > > > > > > > > besides my child.. > > > > > > > > > > > > i judge not. > > > > > > > > > > > > i point out what you have said... not what you have not > said.. > > > > > > > > > > > > if what you have said (even as the 'you' who is not).. > > > > > > > > > > > > makes no sense.. > > > > > > > > > > > > i will say that it makes no sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's not judging son..that's just pointing to fact. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's teaching you the right path. > > > > > > > > > > > > if you refuse the lessons and persist in your folly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your problem and baba will call it what it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > why are you judging what baba teaches you? > > > > > > > > > > > > why do you make judgments on labels? > > > > > > > > > > > > why do you judge what it is you apparently see in them? > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing wrong but that thinking makes it so. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know thinking is difficult for you.. > > > > > > > > > > > > but you seem capable of just enough of it... > > > > > > > > > > > > to decide you're right and baba is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > oh my child! > > > > > > > > > > > > that's just " ghosts of the mind...phantoms of the dark... " > > > > > > > > > > > > to quote a not too bright writer here. > > > > > > > > > > > > why divide what you think is right from what you think is > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's your thinking that is wrong kiddo.. > > > > > > > > > > > > not the stuff you are thereby judging. > > > > > > > > > > > > listen son..i have a few books on logic and logistics.. > > > > > > > > > > > > i'll send them too you if you ever get off your high horse. > > > > > > > > > > > > if you believe you're not on a horse.. > > > > > > > > > > > > what exactly are you high on? > > > > > > > > > > > > something is so bizarre about your stupid attempts to > sound > > > > > profound. > > > > > > > > > > > > what you write is so wakeless and superficial. > > > > > > > > > > > > that for you to consider it lessons in wisdom... > > > > > > > > > > > > is so delusional that i pity you. > > > > > > > > > > > > the only way you will ever learn is to unplug your ears > and > > > listen. > > > > > > > > > > > > but you're too busy yapping frilly, meaningless, > absurdities > > > to > > > > > hear. > > > > > > > > > > > > he who has ears to hear..let him hear. > > > > > > > > > > > > he who has not..let him stay in his crib.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of course you have a few books... > > > > > there has never been the idea that you did not... > > > > > ...you just hang on to that collection of yours... > > > > > ...they make you a beautyful parrot... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > poor kid. > > > > > > > > you missed the whole fucking point again. > > > > > > > > baba's beginning to get the idea... > > > > > > > > that you are just too dense... > > > > > > > > to hear anything but your misguided and stupid presuppositions. > > > > > > > > alas..many are called...few are chosen.. > > > > > > > > and some very few nitwits can't even hear the dinner bell. > > > > > > > > eat your birdseed than kiddo. > > > > > > > > it's your loss... > > > > > > > > but then...you've got nothing to lose.. > > > > > > > > you don't have the stuff...as we say in the parlance of the > wise. > > > > > > > > since you seem unable to commune with wisdom.. > > > > > > > > please feel free to continue to play with yourself. > > > > > > > > it's funny to look at. > > > > > > > > and we all here enjoy a good farce and comedy. > > > > > > > > you're the best kid! > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > do you have to make a fight out of everything...? > > > even a blind man can see the resistance behind all your words... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > what fight? > > > > toying with you child is hardly a fight. > > > > but admitting that your blind... > > > > and seeing things in your imagination.. > > > > is funny as all get out. > > > > do you have to fight dragons and warlocks in your restless dreams > too? > > > > iietsa you just don't know how to have fun. > > > > be at ease and at peace. > > > > quit trying to be a sage. > > > > that trying that will never succeed. > > > > just get real kid and cut out your nonsense. > > > > i'm sure that you're a nice boy under that phony bullshit of yours. > > > > don't resist the truth of who you are.. > > > > stop babbling about who you are not.. > > > > grow up and get a life. > > > > hey kiddo...we're all one remember. > > > > no need to atone for sins when one is at-one-ment. > > > > and do try and stop judging my posts as 'making a fight'. > > > > that's downright silly son. > > > > i mean for a child who says don't judge.. > > > > that's ALL you ever do. > > > > I'm having fun not warring with you. > > > > now..that would be silly..and unfair too. > > > > you wouldn't stand a chance of not being defeated... > > > > if i were 'fight' you. > > > > so therefore: > > > > calm down.... > > > > have a drink of warm chocolate milk.... > > > > sit in the corner facing the wall.... > > > > and DO try and think about how silly you're being. > > > > this is for your own good little shaver. > > > > it will serve as a starting place to take a first step to > adolescence. > > > > if you follow directions i'll be proud of you kiddo. > > > > if you come back with more bullshit.. > > > > the lessons may have to continue in a more stern way. > > > > good luck on your efforts this day! > > > > your teacher of truth, > > > > .b b.b. > > > > ...there you go again... > taking me for a child...a kid...a boy... > ...and taking yourself for a teacher to follow with effort... > > to take oneself for an object in relation with other objects... > is " resistance " ...just as calling this " bullshit " ... > ...iietsa oh bullshit kid! resistance is futile son. TRUTH and baba will win the day. but feel free to stay entombed in ignorance. and lo! further lessons await. i'll get back to you later... when it seems important enough. right now you are just being silly again. actually, baba has more significant events to attend to now. but i will make an addendum to this brisk reply soon. after i attend nature's call and grab a coffee with some adults. just continue on with your comic books and fear for now. that's a good little duffer. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > diana > > > > > > shellam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <diana.shellam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who removes them? the one thats > > > > wanting to > > > > > > > > escape? > > > > > > > > > > > > diana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: -- - > > In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " > > > > > > > > > > > > <jeusisbuen@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no good and no evil. In > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concrete situation there is only > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary and the unnecessary. > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needful is right, the needless > > is > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The situation decides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every situation is a challenge > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demands the right response. When > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > response is right, the challenge > > is > > > > met > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem ceases. If the > > > > response > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is wrong, the challenge is not > > met > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem remains unsolved. > > Your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unsolved problems - that is what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutes your karma. Solve > > them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rightly and be free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My question:What the hell is he > > > > talking > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > anyway? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation I every saw got the > > only > > > > > > response > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gotten. Z > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...your true nature... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you are your true nature...no > > > > > > problems... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you take yourself for what > > you > > > > are > > > > > > not... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then that is ignoring your true > > > > nature, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh shit! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give it up kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll never 'get it' this dumb- ass > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always assisting my little pumpkin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from above: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " When the response is right, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is met and the problem > > > > ceases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the response is wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is not met and the > > problem > > > > > > remains > > > > > > > > > > unsolved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your unsolved problems - that is what > > > > > > constitutes > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solve them rightly and be free. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first...explain...what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'iietsa'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the only explanation needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your state of difficulty that needs > > to > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your source of difficulty... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your question raised for > > consideration > > > > or > > > > > > > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an effort that is inconvenient... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a factor causing trouble in achieving a > > > > positive > > > > > > > > result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or tending to produce a negative result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the quality of being difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa's it's name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horseshit's it's game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you could have learned this in class... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you had attended elementary school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but alas..it's evident that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh what's the use.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all you have are dumb questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you judge (me), as one with all the dumb > > > > > > questions... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but can you explain what a problem is ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what i said above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reread and try and comprehend the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know it's that lack of schooling deal.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but asking again after being answered quite > > > > clearly > > > > > > > > > > beforehand.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well..it's just stupid of you to do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again and again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let's try again: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be > > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now do we need to go over 'difficulty' again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i realize this is difficult for you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but christ almighty son... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can't be that dense for being that which > > you > > > > say > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be > > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well good..you seem to now know what a problem > > is.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say you don't have one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double good, no need to explain to you what a > > problem > > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again you state that you don't have a 'problem'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > triple whammy..three times you say you understand > > what > > > > a > > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > > is! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...is there perhaps something wrong with me > > > > > > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called > > > > problems ?... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you must try harder to make me understand > > your > > > > > > wisdom... > > > > > > > > > > > > dont give up...again, tell me what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say it's no problem for you three fucking > > > > times... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're really a dummy to have to ask.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what it is that a problem is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on top of using it as a defining thing about you.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that you have no problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THAT'S a problem sonny. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't have the slightest idea what you're > > trying > > > > to > > > > > > say.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just more bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only one you're fooling with this nonsense is > > > > iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not that that's a terribly difficult thing to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you really are just a child.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talking out his ass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grow up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is... > > > > > > > > > > and thats why I dont have one... > > > > > > > > > > ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be > > > > > > investigated > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... > > > > > > > > > > ...when you take me for a " dummy " or a " child " or > > > > whatever... > > > > > > > > > > ...or when you judge something " bullshit " ... > > > > > > > > > > you have already ignored your true nature, > > > > > > > > > > by holding on to the old road of darkness... > > > > > > > > > > to investigate openly one cannot bring about old > > > > judgements > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > labels... > > > > > > > > > > let the new light of receptive listening into the > > room... > > > > > > > > > > and darkness will disappear like a drop of water > > into > > > > the > > > > > > sea... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children's games are what children play. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why did you ask for an explanation for what a 'problem > > > > is'.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and now because you are caught in your own trap... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of saying that you don't have what you don't know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you back up..turn around...cower...and change your > > story? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa you are a child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being right even when your wrong is so important to > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have an incredibly small mind for such a big ego. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you asked: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " is there perhaps something wrong with me.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called > > problems ?.. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're all wet kid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have a lot of problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people who believe that they don't give proof thereby > > that > > > > > > they do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the something that's wrong with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're just a north country tyke.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's so full of himself... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who can't admit his errors so obvious to others.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are you an only child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spoiled? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're old man should give you a kick in your ass... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then maybe all your bullshit... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will disappear like a drop of water into the sea... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a dirty drop of water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are deluded son. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're about as enlightened as you are smart.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means iietsa that you are an uneducated, > > uninformed, > > > > > > > > ignoramus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who don't have problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who are never wrong... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who believe they know it all.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are people who: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aren't doing anything, trying anything, learning > > anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that pretty much sums up your sad sack life and times.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and explains your delusional love of self opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i said.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you ain't got the stuff to handle the truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're afraid of admitting you were wrong.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and go to even greater foolish lengths.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and make even more foolish statements.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in order to maintain your 'self image'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you don't lose that 'self', and 'need to be right' > > > > notion.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will never go anywhere further than where you are > > > > stuck... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the fantasy world of children. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think you need a goodnight story and a good nap... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but hell...you're already asleep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so sad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by the way kiddo.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saying: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is...and > > thats > > > > why > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have one... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't make any sense..it's nonsequitur...stupid > > really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's like saying.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " i know perfectly well what a mind, body, life...ad > > > > > > infinitum.. > > > > > > > > is.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and that's why i don't have one " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then you compound this nonsense and go on to say: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to be > > > > > > investigated > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understood what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understood that illogical first statement? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's just dumb. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as long as there is a 'someone' to 'investigate' > > anything.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only delusion and darkness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have years to grow and miles to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sleep little darlin' do not cry. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's fun to have kids about the room. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they make us giggle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your mentor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you get from judging what you see... > > > > > > > > why create devision where there is none... > > > > > > > > labels and judgementals is only ghosts of the mind... > > > > > > > > phantoms of the dark... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now why would it concern a he who is not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what a he who is..is getting from anything? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > besides my child.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i judge not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i point out what you have said... not what you have not > > said.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if what you have said (even as the 'you' who is not).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > makes no sense.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i will say that it makes no sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's not judging son..that's just pointing to fact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's teaching you the right path. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you refuse the lessons and persist in your folly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your problem and baba will call it what it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why are you judging what baba teaches you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why do you make judgments on labels? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why do you judge what it is you apparently see in them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing wrong but that thinking makes it so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know thinking is difficult for you.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but you seem capable of just enough of it... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to decide you're right and baba is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh my child! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's just " ghosts of the mind...phantoms of the dark... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to quote a not too bright writer here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why divide what you think is right from what you think is > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's your thinking that is wrong kiddo.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not the stuff you are thereby judging. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > listen son..i have a few books on logic and logistics.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'll send them too you if you ever get off your high horse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you believe you're not on a horse.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what exactly are you high on? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something is so bizarre about your stupid attempts to > > sound > > > > > > profound. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what you write is so wakeless and superficial. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that for you to consider it lessons in wisdom... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is so delusional that i pity you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only way you will ever learn is to unplug your ears > > and > > > > listen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but you're too busy yapping frilly, meaningless, > > absurdities > > > > to > > > > > > hear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he who has ears to hear..let him hear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he who has not..let him stay in his crib.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of course you have a few books... > > > > > > there has never been the idea that you did not... > > > > > > ...you just hang on to that collection of yours... > > > > > > ...they make you a beautyful parrot... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > poor kid. > > > > > > > > > > you missed the whole fucking point again. > > > > > > > > > > baba's beginning to get the idea... > > > > > > > > > > that you are just too dense... > > > > > > > > > > to hear anything but your misguided and stupid presuppositions. > > > > > > > > > > alas..many are called...few are chosen.. > > > > > > > > > > and some very few nitwits can't even hear the dinner bell. > > > > > > > > > > eat your birdseed than kiddo. > > > > > > > > > > it's your loss... > > > > > > > > > > but then...you've got nothing to lose.. > > > > > > > > > > you don't have the stuff...as we say in the parlance of the > > wise. > > > > > > > > > > since you seem unable to commune with wisdom.. > > > > > > > > > > please feel free to continue to play with yourself. > > > > > > > > > > it's funny to look at. > > > > > > > > > > and we all here enjoy a good farce and comedy. > > > > > > > > > > you're the best kid! > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you have to make a fight out of everything...? > > > > even a blind man can see the resistance behind all your words... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > what fight? > > > > > > toying with you child is hardly a fight. > > > > > > but admitting that your blind... > > > > > > and seeing things in your imagination.. > > > > > > is funny as all get out. > > > > > > do you have to fight dragons and warlocks in your restless dreams > > too? > > > > > > iietsa you just don't know how to have fun. > > > > > > be at ease and at peace. > > > > > > quit trying to be a sage. > > > > > > that trying that will never succeed. > > > > > > just get real kid and cut out your nonsense. > > > > > > i'm sure that you're a nice boy under that phony bullshit of yours. > > > > > > don't resist the truth of who you are.. > > > > > > stop babbling about who you are not.. > > > > > > grow up and get a life. > > > > > > hey kiddo...we're all one remember. > > > > > > no need to atone for sins when one is at-one-ment. > > > > > > and do try and stop judging my posts as 'making a fight'. > > > > > > that's downright silly son. > > > > > > i mean for a child who says don't judge.. > > > > > > that's ALL you ever do. > > > > > > I'm having fun not warring with you. > > > > > > now..that would be silly..and unfair too. > > > > > > you wouldn't stand a chance of not being defeated... > > > > > > if i were 'fight' you. > > > > > > so therefore: > > > > > > calm down.... > > > > > > have a drink of warm chocolate milk.... > > > > > > sit in the corner facing the wall.... > > > > > > and DO try and think about how silly you're being. > > > > > > this is for your own good little shaver. > > > > > > it will serve as a starting place to take a first step to > > adolescence. > > > > > > if you follow directions i'll be proud of you kiddo. > > > > > > if you come back with more bullshit.. > > > > > > the lessons may have to continue in a more stern way. > > > > > > good luck on your efforts this day! > > > > > > your teacher of truth, > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > ...there you go again... > > taking me for a child...a kid...a boy... > > ...and taking yourself for a teacher to follow with effort... > > > > to take oneself for an object in relation with other objects... > > is " resistance " ...just as calling this " bullshit " ... > > ...iietsa > > > oh bullshit kid! > > resistance is futile son. > > TRUTH and baba will win the day. > > but feel free to stay entombed in ignorance. > > and lo! > > further lessons await. > > i'll get back to you later... > > when it seems important enough. > > right now you are just being silly again. > > actually, baba has more significant events to attend to now. > > but i will make an addendum to this brisk reply soon. > > after i attend nature's call and grab a coffee with some adults. > > just continue on with your comic books and fear for now. > > that's a good little duffer. > > .b b.b. > ....baba winnining the day...? ....it appears more like... ....baba whining the day...with the " bullshit " parroting...again .... " winning " is just one side of the dual coin... ....thats why " whining " is a more accurate word here... .... " whining " about " something " that is... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > diana > > > > > > > shellam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <diana.shellam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who removes them? the one > thats > > > > > wanting to > > > > > > > > > escape? > > > > > > > > > > > > > diana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: -- > - > > > In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jeusisbuen@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no good and no > evil. In > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concrete situation there is > only > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessary and the > unnecessary. > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needful is right, the > needless > > > is > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The situation decides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every situation is a > challenge > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demands the right response. > When > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > response is right, the > challenge > > > is > > > > > met > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem ceases. If > the > > > > > response > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is wrong, the challenge is > not > > > met > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem remains > unsolved. > > > Your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unsolved problems - that is > what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutes your karma. > Solve > > > them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rightly and be free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My question:What the hell is > he > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > anyway? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation I every saw got > the > > > only > > > > > > > response > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gotten. Z > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...your true nature... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you are your true > nature...no > > > > > > > problems... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you take yourself for > what > > > you > > > > > are > > > > > > > not... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then that is ignoring your > true > > > > > nature, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh shit! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give it up kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll never 'get it' this dumb- > ass > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always assisting my little > pumpkin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from above: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " When the response is right, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is met and the > problem > > > > > ceases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the response is wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the challenge is not met and the > > > problem > > > > > > > remains > > > > > > > > > > > unsolved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your unsolved problems - that is > what > > > > > > > constitutes > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solve them rightly and be free. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first...explain...what is a problem ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'iietsa'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the only explanation needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your state of difficulty that > needs > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your source of difficulty... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your question raised for > > > consideration > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an effort that is inconvenient... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a factor causing trouble in achieving > a > > > > > positive > > > > > > > > > result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or tending to produce a negative > result... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the quality of being difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa's it's name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horseshit's it's game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you could have learned this in class... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you had attended elementary school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but alas..it's evident that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh what's the use.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all you have are dumb questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you judge (me), as one with all the > dumb > > > > > > > questions... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but can you explain what a problem is ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what i said above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reread and try and comprehend the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know it's that lack of schooling deal.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but asking again after being answered > quite > > > > > clearly > > > > > > > > > > > beforehand.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well..it's just stupid of you to do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again and again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let's try again: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be > > > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or > > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now do we need to go over 'difficulty' > again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i realize this is difficult for you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but christ almighty son... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can't be that dense for being that > which > > > you > > > > > say > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a state of difficulty that needs to be > > > > > resolved... > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well good..you seem to now know what a problem > > > is.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say you don't have one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a source of difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double good, no need to explain to you what a > > > problem > > > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again you state that you don't have > a 'problem'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. a question raised for consideration or > > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...no problem to me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > triple whammy..three times you say you > understand > > > what > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > > > is! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...is there perhaps something wrong with me > > > > > > > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called > > > > > problems ?... > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you must try harder to make me understand > > > your > > > > > > > wisdom... > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont give up...again, tell me what is a > problem ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you say it's no problem for you three > fucking > > > > > times... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're really a dummy to have to ask.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what it is that a problem is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on top of using it as a defining thing about > you.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that you have no problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THAT'S a problem sonny. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't have the slightest idea what you're > > > trying > > > > > to > > > > > > > say.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just more bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only one you're fooling with this nonsense > is > > > > > iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not that that's a terribly difficult thing to > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you really are just a child.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talking out his ass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grow up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes...I know perfectly good what a problem is... > > > > > > > > > > > and thats why I dont have one... > > > > > > > > > > > ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to > be > > > > > > > investigated > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... > > > > > > > > > > > ...when you take me for a " dummy " or a " child " > or > > > > > whatever... > > > > > > > > > > > ...or when you judge something " bullshit " ... > > > > > > > > > > > you have already ignored your true nature, > > > > > > > > > > > by holding on to the old road of darkness... > > > > > > > > > > > to investigate openly one cannot bring about old > > > > > judgements > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > labels... > > > > > > > > > > > let the new light of receptive listening into > the > > > room... > > > > > > > > > > > and darkness will disappear like a drop of water > > > into > > > > > the > > > > > > > sea... > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children's games are what children play. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why did you ask for an explanation for what > a 'problem > > > > > is'.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and now because you are caught in your own trap... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of saying that you don't have what you don't > know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you back up..turn around...cower...and change your > > > story? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa you are a child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being right even when your wrong is so important > to > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have an incredibly small mind for such a big > ego. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you asked: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " is there perhaps something wrong with me.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that hinders me from having these so-called > > > problems ?.. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're all wet kid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have a lot of problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people who believe that they don't give proof > thereby > > > that > > > > > > > they do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the something that's wrong with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're just a north country tyke.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's so full of himself... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who can't admit his errors so obvious to others.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are you an only child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spoiled? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're old man should give you a kick in your > ass... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then maybe all your bullshit... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will disappear like a drop of water into the sea... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a dirty drop of water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are deluded son. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're about as enlightened as you are smart.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means iietsa that you are an uneducated, > > > uninformed, > > > > > > > > > ignoramus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who don't have problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who are never wrong... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only people who believe they know it all.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are people who: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aren't doing anything, trying anything, learning > > > anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that pretty much sums up your sad sack life and > times.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and explains your delusional love of self opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i said.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you ain't got the stuff to handle the truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're afraid of admitting you were wrong.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and go to even greater foolish lengths.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and make even more foolish statements.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in order to maintain your 'self image'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you don't lose that 'self', and 'need to be > right' > > > > > notion.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will never go anywhere further than where you > are > > > > > stuck... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the fantasy world of children. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think you need a goodnight story and a good > nap... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but hell...you're already asleep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so sad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by the way kiddo.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saying: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " yes...I know perfectly good what a problem > is...and > > > thats > > > > > why > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have one... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't make any sense..it's nonsequitur...stupid > > > really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's like saying.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " i know perfectly well what a mind, body, > life...ad > > > > > > > infinitum.. > > > > > > > > > is.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and that's why i don't have one " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then you compound this nonsense and go on to > say: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ...asking, whats a problem ?...is a question to > be > > > > > > > investigated > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one who have not yet understood... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understood what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understood that illogical first statement? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's just dumb. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as long as there is a 'someone' to 'investigate' > > > anything.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only delusion and darkness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have years to grow and miles to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sleep little darlin' do not cry. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's fun to have kids about the room. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they make us giggle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your mentor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you get from judging what you see... > > > > > > > > > why create devision where there is none... > > > > > > > > > labels and judgementals is only ghosts of the mind... > > > > > > > > > phantoms of the dark... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now why would it concern a he who is not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what a he who is..is getting from anything? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > besides my child.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i judge not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i point out what you have said... not what you have > not > > > said.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if what you have said (even as the 'you' who is not).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > makes no sense.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i will say that it makes no sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's not judging son..that's just pointing to fact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's teaching you the right path. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you refuse the lessons and persist in your folly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's your problem and baba will call it what it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why are you judging what baba teaches you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why do you make judgments on labels? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why do you judge what it is you apparently see in them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing wrong but that thinking makes it so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know thinking is difficult for you.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but you seem capable of just enough of it... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to decide you're right and baba is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh my child! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's just " ghosts of the mind...phantoms of the > dark... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to quote a not too bright writer here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why divide what you think is right from what you think > is > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's your thinking that is wrong kiddo.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not the stuff you are thereby judging. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > listen son..i have a few books on logic and logistics.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'll send them too you if you ever get off your high > horse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you believe you're not on a horse.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what exactly are you high on? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something is so bizarre about your stupid attempts to > > > sound > > > > > > > profound. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what you write is so wakeless and superficial. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that for you to consider it lessons in wisdom... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is so delusional that i pity you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only way you will ever learn is to unplug your > ears > > > and > > > > > listen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but you're too busy yapping frilly, meaningless, > > > absurdities > > > > > to > > > > > > > hear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he who has ears to hear..let him hear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he who has not..let him stay in his crib.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of course you have a few books... > > > > > > > there has never been the idea that you did not... > > > > > > > ...you just hang on to that collection of yours... > > > > > > > ...they make you a beautyful parrot... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > poor kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > you missed the whole fucking point again. > > > > > > > > > > > > baba's beginning to get the idea... > > > > > > > > > > > > that you are just too dense... > > > > > > > > > > > > to hear anything but your misguided and stupid > presuppositions. > > > > > > > > > > > > alas..many are called...few are chosen.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and some very few nitwits can't even hear the dinner bell. > > > > > > > > > > > > eat your birdseed than kiddo. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's your loss... > > > > > > > > > > > > but then...you've got nothing to lose.. > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't have the stuff...as we say in the parlance of > the > > > wise. > > > > > > > > > > > > since you seem unable to commune with wisdom.. > > > > > > > > > > > > please feel free to continue to play with yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's funny to look at. > > > > > > > > > > > > and we all here enjoy a good farce and comedy. > > > > > > > > > > > > you're the best kid! > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you have to make a fight out of everything...? > > > > > even a blind man can see the resistance behind all your > words... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > what fight? > > > > > > > > toying with you child is hardly a fight. > > > > > > > > but admitting that your blind... > > > > > > > > and seeing things in your imagination.. > > > > > > > > is funny as all get out. > > > > > > > > do you have to fight dragons and warlocks in your restless > dreams > > > too? > > > > > > > > iietsa you just don't know how to have fun. > > > > > > > > be at ease and at peace. > > > > > > > > quit trying to be a sage. > > > > > > > > that trying that will never succeed. > > > > > > > > just get real kid and cut out your nonsense. > > > > > > > > i'm sure that you're a nice boy under that phony bullshit of > yours. > > > > > > > > don't resist the truth of who you are.. > > > > > > > > stop babbling about who you are not.. > > > > > > > > grow up and get a life. > > > > > > > > hey kiddo...we're all one remember. > > > > > > > > no need to atone for sins when one is at-one-ment. > > > > > > > > and do try and stop judging my posts as 'making a fight'. > > > > > > > > that's downright silly son. > > > > > > > > i mean for a child who says don't judge.. > > > > > > > > that's ALL you ever do. > > > > > > > > I'm having fun not warring with you. > > > > > > > > now..that would be silly..and unfair too. > > > > > > > > you wouldn't stand a chance of not being defeated... > > > > > > > > if i were 'fight' you. > > > > > > > > so therefore: > > > > > > > > calm down.... > > > > > > > > have a drink of warm chocolate milk.... > > > > > > > > sit in the corner facing the wall.... > > > > > > > > and DO try and think about how silly you're being. > > > > > > > > this is for your own good little shaver. > > > > > > > > it will serve as a starting place to take a first step to > > > adolescence. > > > > > > > > if you follow directions i'll be proud of you kiddo. > > > > > > > > if you come back with more bullshit.. > > > > > > > > the lessons may have to continue in a more stern way. > > > > > > > > good luck on your efforts this day! > > > > > > > > your teacher of truth, > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > ...there you go again... > > > taking me for a child...a kid...a boy... > > > ...and taking yourself for a teacher to follow with effort... > > > > > > to take oneself for an object in relation with other objects... > > > is " resistance " ...just as calling this " bullshit " ... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > oh bullshit kid! > > > > resistance is futile son. > > > > TRUTH and baba will win the day. > > > > but feel free to stay entombed in ignorance. > > > > and lo! > > > > further lessons await. > > > > i'll get back to you later... > > > > when it seems important enough. > > > > right now you are just being silly again. > > > > actually, baba has more significant events to attend to now. > > > > but i will make an addendum to this brisk reply soon. > > > > after i attend nature's call and grab a coffee with some adults. > > > > just continue on with your comic books and fear for now. > > > > that's a good little duffer. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > ...baba winnining the day...? > ...it appears more like... > ...baba whining the day...with the " bullshit " parroting...again > ... " winning " is just one side of the dual coin... > ...thats why " whining " is a more accurate word here... > ... " whining " about " something " that is... > ...iietsa oh my goodness gracious! our itsy bitsy iietsa appears to be getting upset. oooooooooooooooooohhhh! ha haaaaaaaaaaa ha ha. so your fucking facade of being beyond it all... is all over. LOL! see there child...baba knew he'd teach you to cut the crap. good laddie! but sop your silly whining regarding baba's winning. reread that piece of shit you just posted.. and use the judgmental faculty you always use.. only this time..add a little discernment... and try and say it's not you who's really whining... with a straight face. if you do.. your a blind bald face liar kid. ROFLMAO! ..b bobji b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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