Guest guest Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Hi, I'm a new member...I'm familiar with Joel Goldsmith's writings. Joel had studied Sanskrit in order to read Shankara's writings in their original version. To get back to my question, what are the simple steps in order to finally feel self-realised...as apparently we are already self-realised? Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " ayamwan " <ayamwan wrote: > > Hi, > I'm a new member...I'm familiar with Joel Goldsmith's writings. Joel > had studied Sanskrit in order to read Shankara's writings in their > original version. > > To get back to my question, what are the simple steps in order to > finally feel self-realised...as apparently we are already self-realised? > > Thank you. > 1 > Very, simple: Take a hammer and hit on your thumb. And you will understand without needing words. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " ayamwan " <ayamwan@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I'm a new member...I'm familiar with Joel Goldsmith's writings. Joel > > had studied Sanskrit in order to read Shankara's writings in their > > original version. > > > > To get back to my question, what are the simple steps in order to > > finally feel self-realised...as apparently we are already self-realised? > > > > Thank you. > > 1 > > > > > Very, simple: > > Take a hammer and hit on your thumb. And you will understand without > needing words. > > Werner don't listen to this fuck-wad 1. that's such an old goddmamn stupid thing to say... i laughed my ass off in the crib the first time i heard it. werner is a weenie. he lives, shits, and dies, on the surface of things. he never makes sense. stick around awhile...you'll see and agree. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " ayamwan " <ayamwan wrote: > > Hi, > I'm a new member...I'm familiar with Joel Goldsmith's writings. Joel > had studied Sanskrit in order to read Shankara's writings in their > original version. > > To get back to my question, what are the simple steps in order to > finally feel self-realised...as apparently we are already self- realised? > > Thank you. > 1 > realization is not a feeling.there are no steps.simply realize the moment as it is. simple yeah? Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " <joe.irrelevant wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " ayamwan " <ayamwan@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I'm a new member...I'm familiar with Joel Goldsmith's writings. Joel > > had studied Sanskrit in order to read Shankara's writings in their > > original version. > > > > To get back to my question, what are the simple steps in order to > > finally feel self-realised...as apparently we are already self- > realised? > > > > Thank you. > > > > > realization is not a feeling.there are no steps.simply realize the > moment as it is. simple yeah? > Joe. > Often however the words " self realized " are a lie, because in truth what is desired is really only more ego being realized disquised as a seeker or whatever. That sneaky bastard ego. Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " <joe.irrelevant wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " ayamwan " <ayamwan@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > I'm a new member...I'm familiar with Joel Goldsmith's writings. > Joel > > > had studied Sanskrit in order to read Shankara's writings in > their > > > original version. > > > > > > To get back to my question, what are the simple steps in order to > > > finally feel self-realised...as apparently we are already self- > > realised? > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > realization is not a feeling.there are no steps.simply realize the > > moment as it is. simple yeah? > > Joe. > > > Often however the words " self realized " are a lie, because in truth > what is desired is really only more ego being realized disquised as a > seeker or whatever. That sneaky bastard ego. > Joe. it's sorta like... trying to pull your fingers out of a chinese finger trap. the harder you pull... the more 'you' try... the more tightly trapped the fingers become. just relaxing wins the day...and the trap just slips off. and you realize that your fingers were never trapped. the isolated ego lets go of it's grip in the same way. 'you' just can't 'try' to lose it though. it's not real. and all the 'trying in the world... only amounts to not freeing the dream rooting. CONSCIOUSNESS seems a far more natural rooting.. than ever the old one of the ego was. that false identity is merely a malfunctioning jamming... which actually begs to be annihilated. it may very well be it's sole purpose. to be returning Home which was never left or apart. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " ayamwan " <ayamwan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm a new member...I'm familiar with Joel Goldsmith's writings. > > Joel > > > > had studied Sanskrit in order to read Shankara's writings in > > their > > > > original version. > > > > > > > > To get back to my question, what are the simple steps in order to > > > > finally feel self-realised...as apparently we are already self- > > > realised? > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > realization is not a feeling.there are no steps.simply realize the > > > moment as it is. simple yeah? > > > Joe. > > > > > Often however the words " self realized " are a lie, because in truth > > what is desired is really only more ego being realized disquised as a > > seeker or whatever. That sneaky bastard ego. > > Joe. > > > it's sorta like... > > trying to pull your fingers out of a chinese finger trap. > > the harder you pull... the more 'you' try... > > the more tightly trapped the fingers become. > > just relaxing wins the day...and the trap just slips off. > > and you realize that your fingers were never trapped. > > the isolated ego lets go of it's grip in the same way. > > 'you' just can't 'try' to lose it though. > > it's not real. > > and all the 'trying in the world... > > only amounts to not freeing the dream rooting. > > CONSCIOUSNESS seems a far more natural rooting.. > > than ever the old one of the ego was. > > that false identity is merely a malfunctioning jamming... > > which actually begs to be annihilated. > > it may very well be it's sole purpose. > > to be returning Home which was never left or apart. > > .b b.b. > christ .b, you are so fucking eloquent. consciousness is so far more natural and so much easier! life is lived as it unfolds. whew!! what a fucking relief! the glory of it all, detach and the weight falls away of having to try to be. it just doesn't matter. LOL,I like what you say about the purpose of ego is to kill itself. how fucking ironic yeah? it is all such a joke and yet the truth that home is always here knocks my socks off. talk about self realization! Good stuff .b. Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " ayamwan " <ayamwan wrote: > > Hi, > I'm a new member...I'm familiar > with Joel Goldsmith's writings. Joel > had studied Sanskrit in order to read > Shankara's writings in their > original version. > > To get back to my question, what are the > simple steps in order to > finally feel self-realised...as apparently > we are already self-realised? > > Thank you. > 1 http://www.realization.org/page/doc1/doc108b.htm .... Papaji: Imagine that you have just come out of a cinema after seeing a show from ten till five. You go home and your friends ask, 'How was it?' What will you tell them? Interviewer: 'It was a beautiful show.' Papaji: You can bring the memory of those images to them, but you brought nothing from your sleep. Who woke up? .... So, I will ask you again: when you wake up, who wakes up? Interviewer: It is the 'I' that wakes up. Papaji: OK. The 'I' has woken up. When the 'I' wakes up, the past, the present and the future also wake up. This means that time and space also wake up. Along with time and space the sun wakes up, the moon wakes up, the stars wake up, mountains wake up, rivers wake up, forests wake up, men, birds and animals all wake up. When the 'I' wakes up, everything else wakes up. While this 'I' was sleeping during the sleep state, everything was quiet. ******If you don't touch the 'I' which woke up, you will experience the happiness of sleep while you are awake.****** Do it for one single second, half of a single second, a quarter of a single second. Don't touch the 'I'. The 'I' is something that we can well afford to be without. ******Don't touch the 'I' and tell me if you are not sleeping.****** Interviewer: That is right. In that instant, everything is like a dream. Papaji: This is called waking while sleeping and sleeping while awake. You are always in happiness, always awake. This awakening is called Knowledge, Freedom, Truth. Don't touch the names, though. Get rid of all the words that you have so far heard from any quarter. And you will see who you really are. [silence.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " ayamwan " <ayamwan@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I'm a new member...I'm familiar > > with Joel Goldsmith's writings. Joel > > had studied Sanskrit in order to read > > Shankara's writings in their > > original version. > > > > To get back to my question, what are the > > simple steps in order to > > finally feel self-realised...as apparently > > we are already self-realised? > > > > Thank you. > > 1 > Huang Po ========== Q: " At this moment, while erroneous thoughts are arising in my mind, where is the Buddha? " A: " At this moment, you are conscious of those erroneous thoughts. Well, that consciousness is the Buddha! " .. . . Your true nature is something never lost to you even in moments of delusion, nor is it gained at the moment of Enlightenment. It is the Nature of the Bhutatathata. In it is neither delusion nor right understanding. It fills the Void everywhere and is intrinsically of the substance of the One Mind. How, then, can your mind-created objects exist outside of the Void? .. . . Q: " What is the Buddha? " A: " Mind is the Buddha, while the cessation of conceptual thought is the Way...The Sambhagakaya is not a real Buddha, nor a real teacher of the Dharma. Only come to know the nature of your own Mind, in which there is no self and no other, and you will in fact be a Buddha! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 > > > > Nisargadatta , " ayamwan " <ayamwan@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > I'm a new member...I'm familiar > > > with Joel Goldsmith's writings. Joel > > > had studied Sanskrit in order to read > > > Shankara's writings in their > > > original version. > > > > > > To get back to my question, what are the > > > simple steps in order to > > > finally feel self-realised...as apparently > > > we are already self-realised? > > > > > > Thank you. > > > 1 Take Deep Breathe... Inhale... Exhale... Once... twice... thrice... do it five times... Now... Realize that IT is YOU, who is doing it! Anytime, you think you " forgot " or " lost " ... ... do IT Again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " ayamwan " <ayamwan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm a new member...I'm familiar > > > > with Joel Goldsmith's writings. Joel > > > > had studied Sanskrit in order to read > > > > Shankara's writings in their > > > > original version. > > > > > > > > To get back to my question, what are the > > > > simple steps in order to > > > > finally feel self-realised...as apparently > > > > we are already self-realised? > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > 1 > " Decide " to touch your nose... " Decide " to touch your nose with your left hand... " Decide " to touch your nose with the thumb and index finger of your left hand... " Decide " to touch your nose with the tip of the thumb and index finger of your left hand... " Decide " to raise your left hand... Watch yourself raising your hand... Watch yourself touching your nose with the tip of the thumb and index finger of your left hand... Repeat it three times... And, each time DECIDE to do it and WATCH yourself doing it! " Decide " to touch your nose... " Decide " to touch your nose with your left hand... " Decide " to touch your nose with the thumb and index finger of your left hand... " Decide " to touch your nose with the tip of the thumb and index finger of your left hand... " Decide " to raise your left hand... Watch yourself raising your hand... Watch yourself touching your nose with the tip of the thumb and index finger of your left hand... Repeat it three times... And, each time DECIDE to do it and WATCH yourself doing it! > Now... > > Realize that IT is YOU, who is doing it! > > > Anytime, you think you " forgot " or " lost " ... ... do IT Again! > Or, do 'anything' else, just do it CONSCIOUSLY... do it by WANTING to DO IT, do it by DECIDING to do it............................ that's All! .... Read this Message... but, first DECIDE to Read it! Now, DECIDE to read one l e t t e r . . . Now, DECICE to read the n e x t l e t t e r . . . Now, DECIDE to m a k e a w o r d out of it . . . Now, DECIDE to i n t e r p r e t that word . . . DECIDE and WATCH yourself " doing " All Of It... deciding, watching, reading, interpreting... Realize that it is YOU, who is doing All of It! SEE " how " you are DOING All of It! Or, DECIDE to think DECIDE to think about W A T E R . . . Now . . . Or, DECIDE to chew your fingernails... Or, DECIDE to scratch your back... Or, DECIDE to scratch your head... Or, DECIDE to ... 'become angry'... Just DO it Consciously. . . Do it with FULL Attention. . . And, just WATCH yourself doing IT! > Q: " What is the Buddha? " > > A: " Mind is the Buddha, while the > cessation of conceptual thought is > the Way...The Sambhagakaya > is not a real Buddha, nor a real > teacher of the Dharma. > > > Only come to know the nature of your > own Mind, in which there is no self > and no other, and you will in fact > be a Buddha! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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