Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Nisargadatta , " martone " <martone wrote: > > BBB > > The name is Asuman, really..not assman.. > > This kind of e-mail is the kind that dont deserve wasting time to be read. i agree but i read your obtuse thing anyway assu. and it's a post not an email. besides..it was a compliment asshole. assman was both on letterman AND on a seinfeld episode. what the fuck is your claim to fame? that you read time wasting posts that you call emails. that's intelligent. get a life or at least get a sense of humor dummy. :-) ..b b.b. p.s. don't capitalize my name. i know it's a compliment but still and all... fuck you... you humorless ass. i don't need nor want your adoration. LOL! ********************************nnb*********************************** > De:Nisargadatta > > Para:Nisargadatta > > Cópia: > > Data:Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:51:48 -0000 > > Assunto:Re: Re: Living Gurus? > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " martone " <martone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello all > > > > > > > > > > Although the ultimate guru is within, if it was not > > Nisagardatta or > > > > Sri Ramana or any other Being to show the way, we would still be > > > > wandering and wondering about what are we doing here.. > > > > > > > > > > I believe that without a teacher in the beginning you can not > > go > > > > anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > Just my cent of thought.. > > > > > > > > > > Best to all > > > > > Cecilia > > > > > De:Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Para:Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Cópia: > > > > > > > > > > Data:Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:27:34 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > Assunto: Re: Living Gurus? > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > > > > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > > > > > > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Peter Nielsen > > > > > > <pnielsen@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering who people on this list might > > consider > > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > living Gurus within India who are closest to > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Maharaj > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > teaching and degree of spiritual realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Nielsen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the question is moot. > > > > > > > > > > prapharasing a quote from Nis, you become your own > > guru. > > > > > > > > > > look within > > > > > > > > > > As long as a guru is sought and thought to to be > > needed > > > > to > > > > > > > awaken > > > > > > > > > self, > > > > > > > > > > there is " somebody " to awaken. that ain't gonna work. > > > > > > > > > > a guru only points the way to nothing. a belief in > > > > > anything > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > anybody > > > > > > > > > > even if it is about nothing is a lie. > > > > > > > > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cows....and > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > trees.... > > > > > > > > > .......also clouds....and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birds.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....a lie?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what, too harsh? > > > > > > > > how about the truth once removed then? > > > > > > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's little bit difficult to remove the appearent > > world.....own > > > > > > body > > > > > > > included....and also Gurus.....included.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there will be appearent Gurus....as long there is > > > > thinking/moving > > > > > > > mind existing.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....always one need a " window " ....to see through the > > appearent > > > > > > > world..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to see truth.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a Guru represent such window/door...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: there will Always be " somebody " to " awaken " ......within > > the > > > > > > > appearence of the world.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even if it's own identity.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one dosn't has a body, mind, intellect.....to remain in > > > > > > darkness..... > > > > > > > means, to " enjoy " the illusion of the world to the > > fullest..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but it serve to " open the eyes " .....and see oneSelf...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > within all there is...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and ever has been > > > > > > > > > > > > > words can get in the way yeah? the word " remove " is not > > > > > > precise. . .my bsd. > > > > > > perhaps I meant to say just don't believe anything as being > > real. > > > > > > > > > > > > the guru can take you to the edge but no further. > > > > > > > > > > > > I like what you say however,enjoyment is to allow the illusion > > > > > > to play out as it will. > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > that way both pain and pleaure can be embraced. pain is not > > > > something > > > > > to be resisted or tolerated. and pleasure is not something to > > be > > > > > sought > > > > > what a relief! > > > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asuman Martone > > > > > > > > > where are you going? > > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > to be on the david letterman show.. > > > > > > or on a seinfeld episode. > > > > > > oh shit wait a second.. > > > > > > that was assman not asuman. > > > > > > forgive the interruption. > > > > > > but baba does know where a.m. is going. > > > > > > it's a devil of a place. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > LOL! > > But > > I thought you were David Letterman > > > > Me thinks that baba is home > > Joe. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Asuman Martone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Nisargadatta , " martone " <martone wrote: > > Hello all > > Although the ultimate guru is within, if it was not Nisagardatta or Sri Ramana or any other Being to show the way, we would still be wandering and wondering about what are we doing here.. > > I believe that without a teacher in the beginning you can not go anywhere. > > Just my cent of thought.. > > Best to all > Cecilia >> Well, I have noticed that even those who say there is nothing that can be done have all--and I mean all--had to do with teachers or teachings before they came to the above conclusion.But they say--and who can say not--that there is a better way and less painful than the one they travelled, namely the way of no way. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " martone " <martone@> wrote: > > > > Hello all > > > > Although the ultimate guru is within, if it was not Nisagardatta or > Sri Ramana or any other Being to show the way, we would still be > wandering and wondering about what are we doing here.. > > > > I believe that without a teacher in the beginning you can not go > anywhere. > > > > Just my cent of thought.. > > > > Best to all > > Cecilia > >> > Well, I have noticed that even those who say there is nothing that > can be done have all--and I mean all--had to do with teachers or > teachings before they came to the above conclusion.But they say--and > who can say not--that there is a better way and less painful than the > one they travelled, namely the way of no way. Z no way man! right on! tiny bubbles, ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Nisargadatta , " martone " <martone wrote: > > Hello all > > Although the ultimate guru is within, if it was not Nisagardatta or Sri Ramana or any other Being to show the way, we would still be wandering and wondering about what are we doing here.. > > I believe that without a teacher in the beginning you can not go anywhere. > > Just my cent of thought.. > > Best to all > Cecilia Ramana Maharshi didn't have a human guru (other than himself). He often said that his guru was Arunachala, a holy mountain in South India. It takes more than just following the Guru's directions and 'Upadesas'. The difference between the Guru and you is one of serious and genuine longing and searching for answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " martone " <martone@> wrote: > > > > Hello all > > > > Although the ultimate guru is within, if it was not Nisagardatta > or Sri Ramana or any other Being to show the way, we would still be > wandering and wondering about what are we doing here.. > > > > I believe that without a teacher in the beginning you can not go > anywhere. > > > > Just my cent of thought.. > > > > Best to all > > Cecilia > > > Ramana Maharshi didn't have a human guru (other than himself). He > often said that his guru was Arunachala, a holy mountain in South > India. > > It takes more than just following the Guru's directions > and 'Upadesas'. The difference between the Guru and you is one of > serious and genuine longing and searching for answers. oh cripes almighty! there is no difference between any 'you' and any 'guru'. that's the guru's message for christ's sake. longing and searching for what is right before and behind the eyes... is suckers' bait. go to satsang and cough up some money in the collection plate... that'll keep everyone laughing. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " martone " <martone@> wrote: > > > > Hello all > > > > Although the ultimate guru is within, if it was not Nisagardatta or > Sri Ramana or any other Being to show the way, we would still be > wandering and wondering about what are we doing here.. > > > > I believe that without a teacher in the beginning you can not go > anywhere. > > > > Just my cent of thought.. > > > > Best to all > > Cecilia > >> > Well, I have noticed that even those who say there is nothing that > can be done have all--and I mean all--had to do with teachers or > teachings before they came to the above conclusion.But they say-- and > who can say not--that there is a better way and less painful than the > one they travelled, namely the way of no way. Z > I can. I can say that there is not only no better way there is no other way either. You want less pain take more drugs. this is it baby and the way of no way. what bullshit is that? Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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