Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " <joe.irrelevant wrote: > > Was there ever a world without troubles? Your being as a person depends > on violence to others. Your very body is a battlefield, full of the > dead and dying. Existence implies violence. There is little of non- > violence in nature. Do you realize that, as long as you have a self to > defend, you must be violent? > If not oneself, then one's family, religion, country, sex, etc. To now this is the beginning of the dismantling of fear which is the ultimate cause of violence. The underlying ever-present balance of opposites and the right understanding of boundaries exists only in a fleeting frame of reference called " I " . It becomes a choice of how we act, enact, react, and reenact in the world we create with our boundaries. It's not easy unless we do so with awareness and loving-kindness/ compassion. Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Was there ever a world without troubles? Your being as a person depends > > on violence to others. Your very body is a battlefield, full of the > > dead and dying. Existence implies violence. There is little of non- > > violence in nature. Do you realize that, as long as you have a self to > > defend, you must be violent? > > > > If not oneself, then one's family, religion, country, sex, etc. > To now this is the beginning of the dismantling of fear which is the > ultimate cause of violence. > > The underlying ever-present balance of opposites and the right > understanding of boundaries exists only in a fleeting frame of > reference called " I " . > > It becomes a choice of how we act, enact, react, and reenact in the > world we create with our boundaries. > > It's not easy unless we do so with awareness and loving-kindness/ > compassion. > > Anna > When I copied this quote from Nis, I failed to include his name as the author at the end, my apologies to Nis. I agree, world peace would be very easy if awareness is realized as self but impossible if it is not. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " <joe.irrelevant wrote: > > Was there ever a world without troubles? Your being as a person depends > on violence to others. Your very body is a battlefield, full of the > dead and dying. Existence implies violence. There is little of non- > violence in nature. Do you realize that, as long as you have a self to > defend, you must be violent? > " You must be vilolent " ? -As long there is attachment, most certainly...yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Was there ever a world without troubles? Your being as a person > depends > > on violence to others. Your very body is a battlefield, full of the > > dead and dying. Existence implies violence. There is little of non- > > violence in nature. Do you realize that, as long as you have a self to > > defend, you must be violent? > > > > " You must be vilolent " ? > > -As long there is attachment, most certainly...yes. > I am. I killed hundreds of ants today ah yes. . . the wonder of the world's evil is witnessed only with detachment Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Was there ever a world without troubles? Your being as a person > depends > > on violence to others. Your very body is a battlefield, full of the > > dead and dying. Existence implies violence. There is little of non- > > violence in nature. Do you realize that, as long as you have a self to > > defend, you must be violent? > > > > " You must be vilolent " ? > > -As long there is attachment, most certainly...yes. > Non-attachment is a lie. There is no such thing as non-attachment. There is a process of letting go things that no longer serve us, however as quickly as we notice we have let go, we also do not notice how this is just a new variation of an old theme. Soon we will have to let that attachment go. And so it goes... Life. ~Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > Was there ever a world without troubles? Your being as a person > > depends > > > on violence to others. Your very body is a battlefield, full of the > > > dead and dying. Existence implies violence. There is little of non- > > > violence in nature. Do you realize that, as long as you have a > self to > > > defend, you must be violent? > > > > > > > " You must be vilolent " ? > > > > -As long there is attachment, most certainly...yes. > > > > Non-attachment is a lie. There is no such thing as non-attachment. > There is a process of letting go things that no longer serve us, > however as quickly as we notice we have let go, we also do not notice > how this is just a new variation of an old theme. Soon we will have > to let that attachment go. > > And so it goes... Life. > > ~Anna > attachment is the lie. but you are almost correct about one thing sooner or later we must detach from all things either now or at death Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > Was there ever a world without troubles? Your being as a person > > depends > > > on violence to others. Your very body is a battlefield, full of the > > > dead and dying. Existence implies violence. There is little of non- > > > violence in nature. Do you realize that, as long as you have a > self to > > > defend, you must be violent? > > > > > > > " You must be vilolent " ? > > > > -As long there is attachment, most certainly...yes. > > > > Non-attachment is a lie. There is no such thing as non-attachment. > There is a process of letting go things that no longer serve us, > however as quickly as we notice we have let go, we also do not notice > how this is just a new variation of an old theme. Soon we will have > to let that attachment go. > > And so it goes... Life. > > ~Anna > Detachment a lie?!! the ego lives and breathes You cannot be conscious of what does not change. All consciousness is consciousness of change. But the very perception of change - does it not necessitate a changeless background? Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj " Don't criticize what you can't understand. " Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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