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Werner,

 

I hope you don't mind if I start a new thread. This topic is pretty

interesting. Thank You so much for your input. Let's take a look at

what you wrote:

 

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" Who decides what is irrational and rational thinking ? Who is that,

who claims his point of view being rational ? It is thought, isn't

it ? " - Werner

 

Ego decides. Ego makes claims. Ego thinks.

 

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" It is again thought which denoted previous thoughts as rational or

irrational. And in addition these thoughts use the words " I " or " me " .

They are telling to be you, can you see that ? " - Werner

 

Yes. Ego and thought. Ego believes it is separate from the thinking

process when in reality it IS the thinking process. The thought, " I

am " creates the concept of personhood.

 

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" But there is no one at home. There are only thoughts being in

conflict with each other, an the most interesting thing is that each

thought believes it is transporting " truth " . And already the next

thought claims the truth of that previous thought as irrational. " -

Werner

 

Yes. Ego naturally creates conflict. Clashing thoughts create

clashing emotions which create irrational behaviour among egos, often

leading to all out war. The ego believes it SHOULD believe a certain

concept absolutely and believes every other ego MUST also believe it.

And these irrational and harmful ego thoughts contribute to the ills

we all witness in our common everyday experience. It would indeed be

better for there to be " no one at home! "

 

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" There is no one at home, Rob. There is only this endless circus and

game all these thoughts are playing. " - Werner

 

Yes and sharing the healthier belief that " There is no one at home "

and spreading it far and wide so that it reaches as many other egos

out there will help to alleviate suffering in our common experience

of " this endless circus and game. "

 

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" Btw, thoughts are only created by the brain to eventually get

communicated. They are all verbal. Loud thoughts are called speaking

and without voice they are called thinking. " - Werner

 

Okay.

 

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" Did you know that all decisions the mind is making are getting

conscious half a second later when they already are made ? And that

means there is no one at home consciously making decisions - no free

choice, no free will and no free decision. All that happens before

they get conscious. " - Werner

 

Yes but the tree eventually produces fruit. Some of it good and some

of it rotten.

 

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" Then who is that who claims to work for ratioal and healthy

thinking ? It is thought which does all that ... thought is a liar

and cheater. "

 

" Are " You " all that ? "

 

" Werner "

 

Only ego. That which watches all does nothing, thinks

nothing. 'I' 'am' 'that'.

 

Rob

 

P.S. Thanks again for your thoughts Werner. I appreciate you!