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In a message dated 3/29/2008 6:34:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lastrain writes:

Following a favorite teacher.......hoping that the wisdom that flows throughthem willsomeday ferment into a heady drink that will assuage the fear and pain thatcomes withidentification is fundamentally no different than the end of the world scenariosthatabound on the fringe of spirituality.Waiting and hoping for "enlightenment" is the same phenomena that entraps allfollowersinto believing that there will be something better in store for them in thefuture......eitherin this life......or the one hereafter.But there isn't folks.This is it.This is the whole enchilada.No savior.......no teacher.....no messiah....is going to reach down through yourown fitfulldream of separation and save your ass..........and anybody deluded enough tobelieve thatwill be dispatched through the grace of the Darwin principle.I was going to add a smiley face.......so you wouldn't get your panties allscrunchedup.......but I just can't do it.toombaru

 

Hey, I wanna be enlightened too so's I can be condescending and self righteous!.......Oh, wait, I already am. Nevermind. :(

 

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Following a favorite teacher.......hoping that the wisdom that flows through

them will

someday ferment into a heady drink that will assuage the fear and pain that

comes with

identification is fundamentally no different than the end of the world scenarios

that

abound on the fringe of spirituality.

 

Waiting and hoping for " enlightenment " is the same phenomena that entraps all

followers

into believing that there will be something better in store for them in the

future......either

in this life......or the one hereafter.

 

But there isn't folks.

 

This is it.

 

This is the whole enchilada.

 

No savior.......no teacher.....no messiah....is going to reach down through your

own fitfull

dream of separation and save your ass..........and anybody deluded enough to

believe that

will be dispatched through the grace of the Darwin principle.

 

I was going to add a smiley face.......so you wouldn't get your panties all

scrunched

up.......but I just can't do it.

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 3/29/2008 6:34:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> lastrain writes:

>

>

> Following a favorite teacher.......hoping that the wisdom that

flows through

> them will

> someday ferment into a heady drink that will assuage the fear and

pain that

> comes with

> identification is fundamentally no different than the end of the

world

> scenarios

> that

> abound on the fringe of spirituality.

>

> Waiting and hoping for " enlightenment " is the same phenomena that

entraps

> all

> followers

> into believing that there will be something better in store for

them in the

> future......either

> in this life......or the one hereafter.

>

> But there isn't folks.

>

> This is it.

>

> This is the whole enchilada.

>

> No savior.......no teacher.....no messiah....is going to reach down

through

> your

> own fitfull

> dream of separation and save your ass..........and anybody deluded

enough to

> believe that

> will be dispatched through the grace of the Darwin principle.

>

> I was going to add a smiley face.......so you wouldn't get your

panties all

> scrunched

> up.......but I just can't do it.

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

>

>

> Hey, I wanna be enlightened too so's I can be condescending and self

> righteous!.......Oh, wait, I already am. Nevermind. :(

>

> Phil

 

 

you only think yourself to be condescending and self righteous.

 

don't kid yourself.

 

you don't have the stuff to be either.

 

you're just annoying.

 

be grateful for small gifts though.

 

that gift of annoyance is the only one you deem to have.

 

:-)

 

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In a message dated 3/30/2008 8:53:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Roberibus111 writes:

> > Hey, I wanna be enlightened too so's I can be condescending and self > righteous!.......Oh, wait, I already am. Nevermind. :(> > Philyou only think yourself to be condescending and self righteous.don't kid yourself.you don't have the stuff to be either.you're just annoying.be grateful for small gifts though.that gift of annoyance is the only one you deem to have.:-).b b.b.

 

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Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 3/30/2008 8:53:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> Roberibus111 writes:

>

> >

> > Hey, I wanna be enlightened too so's I can be condescending and

self

> > righteous!.......Oh, wait, I already am. Nevermind. :(

> >

> > Phil

>

>

> you only think yourself to be condescending and self righteous.

>

> don't kid yourself.

>

> you don't have the stuff to be either.

>

> you're just annoying.

>

> be grateful for small gifts though.

>

> that gift of annoyance is the only one you deem to have.

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

>

>

>

> Burble, burble....Nanernanernaner!

> Phil(Trying to live up to expectations)

 

 

 

 

anticipated annoyance... but not an expectation.

 

you now believe that you know what others expect?

 

that's dumb!

 

just so..

 

you are what you are.

 

please don't hold it against me though.

 

it's annoying like i said.

 

:-)

 

your pal in correspondence,

 

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To Roberibus and friends, I am astounded and amused at how pompous, petty, vindictive, mean-spirited and ridiculous you guys are. Don't you have anything better to do for Christ sake!! You aren't even clever or witty, just pathetic.You guys actually think you have your shit together don't you!? Which makes this charade even more sad. I was hoping the group could at least be fun and informative. Everyone sounds like a a dysfunctional codependent family during the holidays. I have to Un to this confedeacy of nincumpoops. To paraphrase: "A little non-duality is a dangerous thing" Steve roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > In a message dated 3/30/2008 8:53:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Roberibus111 writes:> > > > > Hey, I wanna be enlightened too so's I can be condescending and self > > righteous!.......Oh, wait, I already am. Nevermind. :(> > > > Phil> > > you only think yourself to be condescending and self righteous.> > don't kid yourself.> > you don't have the stuff to be either.>

> you're just annoying.> > be grateful for small gifts though.> > that gift of annoyance is the only one you deem to have.> > :-)> > .b b.b.> > > > Burble, burble....Nanernanernaner!> Phil(Trying to live up to expectations)anticipated annoyance... but not an expectation.you now believe that you know what others expect?that's dumb!just so..you are what you are.please don't hold it against me though.it's annoying like i said.:-)your pal in correspondence,.b b.b.

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In a message dated 4/1/2008 1:31:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, stephenleehess writes:

 

To Roberibus and friends,

 

I am astounded and amused at how pompous, petty, vindictive, mean-spirited and ridiculous you guys are. Don't you have anything better to do for Christ sake!! You aren't even clever or witty, just pathetic.You guys actually think you have your shit together don't you!? Which makes this charade even more sad.

 

I was hoping the group could at least be fun and informative. Everyone sounds like a a dysfunctional codependent family during the holidays. I have to Un to this confedeacy of nincumpoops. To paraphrase: "A little non-duality is a dangerous thing"

 

Steve

 

Agreed, it's absolutely childish and you guys sould be ashamed of yourselves and.........Oh, wait, you mean me, don't you?

Well, yeah, it's totally insane. We've got Booboo who thinks he's enlightened and just here as the new Wayshower, then we have good ole Toom, fresh out of retreat and also enlightened and on a mission to get us to stop screwing around and get ourselves enlightened too, then there's a dude who comes along to tell all us nonvolitional beings to just end the search because as we all know, that's the REAL way to find what we're searching for, and then there's Werner who's connected to some device that makes him repeat the same stuff year after year when we really should be saying new nonsense all the time.

 

Yes, pompous, petty, vindictive, mean spirited fits in with absolute perfection here right now. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one here right now who's NOT fuckin around pretending that nonsense isn't the name of the game here. (Okay, I'll add you to the list.) In spite of the nonsense, I'm deadly serious about the Truth, and that alone is enough to draw insults from every corner of this forum, but so be it.

 

Ya know what Truth seeking is really about? It's not about high falutin concepts and meditating in the silence of the emptiness of the nothingness of everythingness, it's about ending the pretending. The games of ego that says I'm closer to something that you are, more enlightened, better informed, more experienced, I know things you don't. When we get done with those games, then we can admit we never knew anything because there was never anything to know, that we're not enlightened and never will be because people don't get enlightened. All of us here are in exactly the same place, standing side by side staring into the darkness looking for the courage to fall into it. As long as we're playing silly games here, there's nothing. The truth doesn't begin with nondualistic concepts, it begins right here with the ego that just gets more imaginative the closer it gets to the gallows. Admitting that we're all scared shitless would at least be a beginning. That's where truth starts.

Phil

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > In a message dated 3/30/2008 8:53:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Roberibus111 writes:> > > > > Hey, I wanna be enlightened too so's I can be condescending and self > > righteous!.......Oh, wait, I already am. Nevermind. :(> > > > Phil> > > you only think yourself to be condescending and self righteous.> > don't kid yourself.> > you don't have the stuff to be either.> > you're just annoying.> > be grateful for small gifts though.> > that gift of annoyance is the only one you deem to have.> > :-)> > .b b.b.> > > > Burble, burble....Nanernanernaner!> Phil(Trying to live up to expectations)anticipated annoyance... but not an expectation.you now believe that you know what others expect?that's dumb!just so..you are what you are.please don't hold it against me though.it's annoying like i said.:-)your pal in correspondence,.b b.b.

 

 

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Nisargadatta , hess steve <stephenleehess

wrote:

>

> To Roberibus and friends,

>

> I am astounded and amused at how pompous, petty, vindictive,

mean-spirited and ridiculous you guys are. Don't you have anything

better to do for Christ sake!! You aren't even clever or witty, just

pathetic.You guys actually think you have your shit together don't

you!? Which makes this charade even more sad.

>

> I was hoping the group could at least be fun and informative.

Everyone sounds like a a dysfunctional codependent family during the

holidays. I have to Un to this confedeacy of nincumpoops. To

paraphrase: " A little non-duality is a dangerous thing "

>

> Steve

 

 

 

 

 

you would like sanctimonious pomp and serious holiness then?

 

try church.

 

it's full of it..and other stuff too.

 

may help you see that calling the kettle black is a losing battle.

 

hey..is your family dysfunctional and codependent?

 

the Family of Man is.

 

that's kind of the point to the whole thing stevie.

 

if it wasn't for that..

 

J.C., Lao tse, Buddha, Nis or Ram or..

 

well none of those Manifestations of Nobody..

 

would have ever bothered.

 

must be nice in fools' paradise.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

> roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote:

> Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 3/30/2008 8:53:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > Roberibus111@ writes:

> >

> > >

> > > Hey, I wanna be enlightened too so's I can be condescending and

> self

> > > righteous!.......Oh, wait, I already am. Nevermind. :(

> > >

> > > Phil

> >

> >

> > you only think yourself to be condescending and self righteous.

> >

> > don't kid yourself.

> >

> > you don't have the stuff to be either.

> >

> > you're just annoying.

> >

> > be grateful for small gifts though.

> >

> > that gift of annoyance is the only one you deem to have.

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> >

> >

> > Burble, burble....Nanernanernaner!

> > Phil(Trying to live up to expectations)

>

> anticipated annoyance... but not an expectation.

>

> you now believe that you know what others expect?

>

> that's dumb!

>

> just so..

>

> you are what you are.

>

> please don't hold it against me though.

>

> it's annoying like i said.

>

> :-)

>

> your pal in correspondence,

>

> .b b.b.

 

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Nisargadatta , hess steve <stephenleehess

wrote:

>

> To Roberibus and friends,

>

> I am astounded and amused at how pompous, petty, vindictive,

mean-spirited and ridiculous you guys are. Don't you have anything

better to do for Christ sake!! You aren't even clever or witty, just

pathetic.You guys actually think you have your shit together don't

you!? Which makes this charade even more sad.

>

> I was hoping the group could at least be fun and informative.

Everyone sounds like a a dysfunctional codependent family during the

holidays. I have to Un to this confedeacy of nincumpoops.

To paraphrase: " A little non-duality is a dangerous thing "

>

> Steve

>

>

 

Yes, " Un to this confedeacy of nincumpoops " group.

You're a good man Steve.

 

Goodnight...

 

Actually, you're choice of words blend's in well to this family.

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Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , hess steve <stephenleehess@>

> wrote:

> >

> > To Roberibus and friends,

> >

> > I am astounded and amused at how pompous, petty, vindictive,

> mean-spirited and ridiculous you guys are. Don't you have anything

> better to do for Christ sake!! You aren't even clever or witty, just

> pathetic.You guys actually think you have your shit together don't

> you!? Which makes this charade even more sad.

> >

> > I was hoping the group could at least be fun and informative.

> Everyone sounds like a a dysfunctional codependent family during the

> holidays. I have to Un to this confedeacy of nincumpoops.

> To paraphrase: " A little non-duality is a dangerous thing "

> >

> > Steve

> >

> >

>

> Yes, " Un to this confedeacy of nincumpoops " group.

> You're a good man Steve.

>

> Goodnight...

>

> Actually, you're choice of words blend's in well to this family.

 

 

actually a ninny is a 'nin(com)poop' and not nin(cum)poop.

 

maybe you both are 'nincumpoops'..whatever those are.

 

family names?

 

johan and stevie nincumpoop it is then.

 

sounds fitting...

 

for all the stefans and skyzies in the menagerie.

 

LOL!

 

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Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 4/1/2008 1:31:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> stephenleehess writes:

>

> To Roberibus and friends,

>

> I am astounded and amused at how pompous, petty, vindictive,

mean-spirited

> and ridiculous you guys are. Don't you have anything better to do

for Christ

> sake!! You aren't even clever or witty, just pathetic.You guys

actually think

> you have your shit together don't you!? Which makes this charade

even more

> sad.

>

> I was hoping the group could at least be fun and informative.

Everyone

> sounds like a a dysfunctional codependent family during the

holidays. I have to

> Un to this confedeacy of nincumpoops. To paraphrase: " A

little

> non-duality is a dangerous thing "

>

> Steve

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Agreed, it's absolutely childish and you guys sould be ashamed of

yourselves

> and.........Oh, wait, you mean me, don't you?

> Well, yeah, it's totally insane. We've got Booboo who thinks he's

> enlightened and just here as the new Wayshower,

 

 

 

 

if you're talking about me..you're 180 degrees off base.

 

enlightenment doesn't exist.

 

have you forgotten the lesson already?

 

get up to speed philip.

 

this is disgraceful!

 

now you're claiming to know what i believe or do not..

 

without my even saying it.

 

LOL!

 

phil..you need help.

 

i'm always here if you need me.

 

all you have to do is ask and not make stupid assumptions.

 

we've been over this before little guy.

 

wake up.

 

the Way shows itself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> then we have good ole Toom, fresh out

> of retreat and also enlightened and on a mission to get us to stop

screwing

> around and get ourselves enlightened too, then there's a dude who

comes along

> to tell all us nonvolitional beings to just end the search because

as we all

> know, that's the REAL way to find what we're searching for, and

then there's

> Werner who's connected to some device that makes him repeat the

same stuff

> year after year when we really should be saying new nonsense all

the time.

>

> Yes, pompous, petty, vindictive, mean spirited fits in with absolute

> perfection here right now. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one here

right now who's NOT

> fuckin around pretending that nonsense isn't the name of the game

here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

when you start believing that you are the only one..

 

that's got it together phil boy..

 

well you know what they say about that.

 

and they're right too.

 

seek help soon.

 

it's most likely too late but what the hey..give 'er a shot.

 

:-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> (Okay, I'll add you to the list.) In spite of the nonsense, I'm

deadly serious

> about the Truth, and that alone is enough to draw insults from

every corner of

> this forum, but so be it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

when you enter with insults that's what you get.

 

your mother overprotected you philly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Ya know what Truth seeking is really about? It's not about high

falutin

> concepts and meditating in the silence of the emptiness of the

nothingness of

> everythingness, it's about ending the pretending. The games of ego

that says I'm

> closer to something that you are, more enlightened, better

informed, more

> experienced, I know things you don't. When we get done with those

games, then

> we can admit we never knew anything because there was never

anything to know,

> that we're not enlightened and never will be because people don't get

> enlightened. All of us here are in exactly the same place, standing

side by side

> staring into the darkness looking for the courage to fall into it.

As long as

> we're playing silly games here, there's nothing. The truth doesn't

begin with

> nondualistic concepts, it begins right here with the ego that just

gets more

> imaginative the closer it gets to the gallows. Admitting that we're

all scared

> shitless would at least be a beginning. That's where truth starts.

> Phil

 

 

 

 

oh phil!

 

you don't 'know' what Truth is.

 

c'mon with you.

 

grow up and suck it up.

 

you seem upset about something.

 

you sure have utilized a lot of words to really say nothing.

 

that nothing is the something that's got your goat.

 

because you know that you don't know and it's no fun being 'you'.

 

so be it!

 

LOL!

 

 

 

 

 

 

> roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote:

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>

> _Nisargadatta@NisargadattaNis_

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> >

> >

> > In a message dated 3/30/2008 8:53:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > Roberibus111@ Roberibus111@<WB

> >

> > >

> > > Hey, I wanna be enlightened too so's I can be condescending and

> self

> > > righteous!.. righteous!..<WBR>.....Oh, wait, I a

> > >

> > > Phil

> >

> >

> > you only think yourself to be condescending and self righteous.

> >

> > don't kid yourself.

> >

> > you don't have the stuff to be either.

> >

> > you're just annoying.

> >

> > be grateful for small gifts though.

> >

> > that gift of annoyance is the only one you deem to have.

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> >

> >

> > Burble, burble....Nanernane Burble

> > Phil(Trying to live up to expectations)

>

> anticipated annoyance... but not an expectation.

>

> you now believe that you know what others expect?

>

> that's dumb!

>

> just so..

>

> you are what you are.

>

> please don't hold it against me though.

>

> it's annoying like i said.

>

> :-)

>

> your pal in correspondence,

>

> .b b.b.

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