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Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:

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>

> In a message dated 3/29/2008 1:49:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> Roberibus111 writes:

>

> Nisargadatta , Surendra Shrestha

> <coloramacentre@> wrote:

> >

> > timeless truth

>

is there a truth that isn't timeless?

>

> if so..

>

> which truth has a time limitation put on it?

>

> and by whom or by what is the said limit imposed?

>

> just a thought thinking...

>

> .b b.b.

>

>

>

> So " timeless truth " implies the absence of an expiration date to

you? Like a

> package of bologna?

>

> Phil

 

 

 

well phil..that's a stupid assumption.

 

that's the truth.

 

Truth is without 'time'....timeless or alterable.

 

but i see you're full of bologna and misunderstanding.

 

you are forgiven.

 

few are given the Understanding.

 

enjoy your bologna but look for the date of expiry.

 

or you may expire shortly after eating such false hope.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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In a message dated 3/30/2008 8:53:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Roberibus111 writes:

 

Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > In a message dated 3/29/2008 1:49:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > Roberibus111 writes:> > Nisargadatta , Surendra Shrestha> <coloramacentre@> wrote:> >> > timeless truth> > > > > > > > is there a truth that isn't timeless?> > if so..> > which truth has a time limitation put on it?> > and by whom or by what is the said limit imposed?> > just a thought thinking...> > .b b.b.> > > > So "timeless truth" implies the absence of an expiration date toyou? Like a > package of bologna?> > Philwell phil..that's a stupid assumption.that's the truth.Truth is without 'time'....timeless or alterable.

 

 

****And so the phrase "timeless Truth" would seem to be appropriate, defined clearly by what you just said. Since not everyone has been given your evolved understanding, the adjective may be useful to those who aren't as stupid as me of course, but also aren't as smart as you. So, assuming again (hey that's what us stupid people do) that you knew all that, your motivation for your sarcasm was...........?

but i see you're full of bologna and misunderstanding.you are forgiven.

 

***Thank you, Masser.

 

few are given the Understanding.

 

 

****I humbly bow to your superior assholeness.

 

 

 

 

enjoy your bologna but look for the date of expiry.or you may expire shortly after eating such false hope.:-).b b.b.

 

****And the false hope is in regards to, like, bologna expiration? Remember, I'm really, really stupid so you gotta spell stuff out fer me. :)~

 

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Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 3/30/2008 8:53:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> Roberibus111 writes:

>

> Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 3/29/2008 1:49:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > Roberibus111@ writes:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , Surendra Shrestha

> > <coloramacentre@> wrote:

> > >

> > > timeless truth

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > is there a truth that isn't timeless?

> >

> > if so..

> >

> > which truth has a time limitation put on it?

> >

> > and by whom or by what is the said limit imposed?

> >

> > just a thought thinking...

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> >

> >

> > So " timeless truth " implies the absence of an expiration date to

> you? Like a

> > package of bologna?

> >

> > Phil

>

>

>

> well phil..that's a stupid assumption.

>

> that's the truth.

>

> Truth is without 'time'....timeless or alterable.

>

>

>

> ****And so the phrase " timeless Truth " would seem to be

appropriate, defined

> clearly by what you just said. Since not everyone has been given your

> evolved understanding, the adjective may be useful to those who

aren't as stupid as

> me of course, but also aren't as smart as you. So, assuming again (hey

> that's what us stupid people do) that you knew all that, your

motivation for your

> sarcasm was...........?

 

 

 

 

 

 

stuff happens..

 

no motivation was, nor ever is required.

 

the baba's irony is:

 

duly placed and right on target..

 

unlike your attempt at being droll.

 

 

 

 

 

> but i see you're full of bologna and misunderstanding.

>

> you are forgiven.

>

> ***Thank you, Masser.

 

 

 

 

sorry fella.

 

wouldn't be your Masser no matter how cheaply you can be bought.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> few are given the Understanding.

>

>

>

> ****I humbly bow to your superior assholeness.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

now, now..

 

no need to get snippy boy!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> enjoy your bologna but look for the date of expiry.

>

> or you may expire shortly after eating such false hope.

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

>

>

>

> ****And the false hope is in regards to, like, bologna expiration?

Remember,

> I'm really, really stupid so you gotta spell stuff out fer me. :)~

>

> Phil

 

 

 

well frankly phil..

 

from your responses so far..

 

i don't believe that you can grasp these things spelt out or not.

 

and spelling them out for you..

 

would be like casting pearls before swine.

 

but at least you seem to be aware of your simple mental condition.

 

bravo my half-wit friend!

 

and the false hope is in regards to you thinking that your witty.

 

your not.

 

so be it.

 

baba knows you likely won't 'get' that either.

 

so..go ahead...

 

swallow your expired bologna, along with your pride.

 

you don't deserve to have pride..

 

so eating that spoiled mystery meat of yours..

 

may benefit you in a way that you do deserve.

 

your baba,

 

..b b.b.

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 3/31/2008 7:03:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Roberibus111 writes:

stuff happens..no motivation was, nor ever is required.the baba's irony is:duly placed and right on target..unlike your attempt at being droll.

 

I see. Your ego lacks motivation and is just the direct expression of Divinity, the sword of Truth slicing with unfailing precision, while everything I say comes from a need to be witty or droll or just from sheer stupidity. Oops! Somebody skipped over the ego chapters in the enlightenment manual. How do you get away with this crap here?

 

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Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 3/31/2008 7:03:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> Roberibus111 writes:

>

> stuff happens..

>

> no motivation was, nor ever is required.

>

> the baba's irony is:

>

> duly placed and right on target..

>

> unlike your attempt at being droll.

>

>

>

> I see. Your ego lacks motivation...

 

 

 

 

ego?

 

sorry..don't posses one.

 

you seem to be all and only ego though...

 

possessed by it actually.

 

that's what's bruised and upset my humorless communicator.

 

 

 

 

 

 

>.....and is just the direct expression of Divinity,...

 

 

 

 

the only divinity i'm familiar with is a white candy fudge.

 

that stuff is sweet but it never expresses anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

>.. the sword of Truth slicing with unfailing precision, while

everything I say comes from a need to be witty or droll or just from

sheer stupidity.

 

 

 

 

 

Sword of Truth?

 

seen that in comic books.

 

you a fan?

 

you seem well read in that material.

 

do those cartoons give you that great insight into yourself?

 

strive on then.

 

 

 

 

 

>Oops!

 

 

 

 

 

it's ok.

 

your mistakes are allowed.

 

they are cute in fact!

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Somebody skipped over the ego chapters in the enlightenment manual.

How do

> you get away with this crap here?

>

> Phil

 

 

 

 

 

enlightenment manual?

 

hahahahahahaha1

 

a manual will never help in that direction.

 

but it can i suppose massage that smarmy ego of yours.

 

as far as the 'crap' is concerned..

 

you threw the first piece my little friend.

 

is your memory that pathetic?

 

perhaps a memory manual would be of more assistance to you.

 

how do you get away with that childish idea..

 

that only you have the right to be offensive here?

 

if you can't get tackled but want to tackle others..

 

you should plainly get off the field.

 

that's not the way things go...here or anywhere.

 

when you mature you wqill have found this out.

 

until then, i hope the advise helps out.

 

your advisor in all matters,

 

..b b.b.

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In a message dated 4/2/2008 9:23:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Roberibus111 writes:

 

> I see. Your ego lacks motivation...ego?sorry..don't posses one.

 

 

***** While it's true that ego work is messy, not fun to do, and not even fun to watch unless one is into ego drama, it can be interesting when observed obvectively, even if it's our own ego that's being observed.

Here it is noted that the sarcastic, judgmental, smarmy, self righteous, condescending one has no ego at all. If that's believed, it truly is a marvelous self deception.

you seem to be all and only ego though...possessed by it actually.that's what's bruised and upset my humorless communicator.

****This is where ego distracts by pointing back and since it is unconscious, it must inevitably project onto the other what it sees in itself. I'm characterized as bruised and upset, which has not ocurred at all, and so we learn something about the projector.

>.....and is just the direct expression of Divinity,...the only divinity i'm familiar with is a white candy fudge.that stuff is sweet but it never expresses anything.>.. the sword of Truth slicing with unfailing precision, whileeverything I say comes from a need to be witty or droll or just fromsheer stupidity.Sword of Truth?seen that in comic books.you a fan?you seem well read in that material.do those cartoons give you that great insight into yourself?strive on then.*****Here a fantasy story is woven out of nothing as a means of attempting to degrade, demean and dismiss me by making me appear childish.>Oops! it's ok.your mistakes are allowed.they are cute in fact!****Here a word was purposely taken out of context and clumsily made to appear as an admission of an error on my part, followed by the same sort of condescending degradation. (Keep in mind, it is claimed there is no ego there at all)> Somebody skipped over the ego chapters in the enlightenment manual.How do > you get away with this crap here?> > Philenlightenment manual?hahahahahahaha1a manual will never help in that direction.but it can i suppose massage that smarmy ego of yours.as far as the 'crap' is concerned..you threw the first piece my little friend.is your memory that pathetic?

 

****Here, the nonexistent ego attempts to imply that I'm personally offended, which appears to be another projection. "Little friend" is more patronizing condescention. Another fairy tale about a bad memory is created so that it can be called pathetic. perhaps a memory manual would be of more assistance to you.how do you get away with that childish idea..that only you have the right to be offensive here?if you can't get tackled but want to tackle others..you should plainly get off the field.

 

 

****This is an attempt to create the notion that the offensiveness began with me. Before I posted here, I read the last page of posts, most of which were Booboo's, and I don't know how anyone could see them as anything but offensive. There's also an attempt to characterize me as the bully who's afraid of getting hurt, a continuation of the same pattern.

that's not the way things go...here or anywhere.when you mature you wqill have found this out.until then, i hope the advise helps out.your advisor in all matters,.b b.b.

 

**** Labeling others as immature of course positions him as the mature one. Positioning himself as the compassionate advisor creates the appearance of superiority while simultaneously labeling the advised as inferior.

 

I suspect nobody is falling for the awakened egoless act, but what might not be immediately recognized is that he is also unconscious in that he's unaware of his projections and unconscious motivations. There's nothing here to be judged and there isn't even anybody present to own the ego in question, and so nobody to blame, but it's interesting to note that the concepts are known so well that Booboo could probably pull off a satsang if not for his unconscious ego reactions, which he can't hide from the more aware. Such knowledge has no effect on ego. My oppologies to those who are offended by such discussions. It's not my intention.

 

 

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Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 4/2/2008 9:23:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> Roberibus111 writes:

>

> > I see. Your ego lacks motivation...

>

> ego?

>

> sorry..don't posses one.

>

>

>

> ***** While it's true that ego work is messy, not fun to do, and

not even

> fun to watch unless one is into ego drama, it can be interesting

when observed

> obvectively, even if it's our own ego that's being observed.

> Here it is noted that the sarcastic, judgmental, smarmy, self

righteous,

> condescending one has no ego at all. If that's believed, it truly

is a marvelous

> self deception.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well then you should stop acting that way phil.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> you seem to be all and only ego though...

>

> possessed by it actually.

>

> that's what's bruised and upset my humorless communicator.

>

>

>

> ****This is where ego distracts by pointing back and since it is

> unconscious, it must inevitably project onto the other what it sees

in itself. I'm

> characterized as bruised and upset, which has not ocurred at all,

and so we learn

> something about the projector.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ego does not distract.

 

ego does nothing.

 

that notion is just wrong.

 

egotism is a self delusional love affair.

 

that's all that it is.... and it is no more.

 

and it never was.

 

'unconsious'?

 

what isn't?

 

tell us TRUE phil.

 

if you do..you lie.

 

'conscious' and 'unconscious' are not exclusive or divided.

 

your belief that they are..is silly.

 

let's suggest that you quit reading claptrap.

 

you seem to be easily influenced and duped.

 

i'm rooting for you here.

 

end of story.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> >.....and is just the direct expression of Divinity,...

>

>

> the only divinity i'm familiar with is a white candy fudge.

>

> that stuff is sweet but it never expresses anything.

>

>

> >.. the sword of Truth slicing with unfailing precision, while

> everything I say comes from a need to be witty or droll or just from

> sheer stupidity.

>

> Sword of Truth?

>

> seen that in comic books.

>

> you a fan?

>

> you seem well read in that material.

>

> do those cartoons give you that great insight into yourself?

>

> strive on then.

>

>

> *****Here a fantasy story is woven out of nothing as a means of

attempting

> to degrade, demean and dismiss me by making me appear childish.

>

>

> >Oops!

>

>

> it's ok.

>

> your mistakes are allowed.

>

> they are cute in fact!

>

>

> ****Here a word was purposely taken out of context and clumsily

made to

> appear as an admission of an error on my part, followed by the same

sort of

> condescending degradation. (Keep in mind, it is claimed there is no

ego there at

> all)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well you got that last bit right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> > Somebody skipped over the ego chapters in the enlightenment manual.

> How do

> > you get away with this crap here?

> >

> > Phil

>

>

> enlightenment manual?

>

> hahahahahahaha1

>

> a manual will never help in that direction.

>

> but it can i suppose massage that smarmy ego of yours.

>

> as far as the 'crap' is concerned..

>

> you threw the first piece my little friend.

>

> is your memory that pathetic?

>

>

>

>

> ****Here, the nonexistent ego attempts to imply that I'm personally

> offended, which appears to be another projection. " Little friend "

is more patronizing

> condescention. Another fairy tale about a bad memory is created so

that it

> can be called pathetic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you give credit for offending you, where none is due phillip.

 

you feel abused.

 

only you can do that to you.

 

and there is no you.

 

i know this is difficult but it's not.

 

it's only difficult in your faulty logic.

 

believing that a wave in the ocean is 'other' then the ocean..

 

and furthermore that it's being pushed around..

 

is kind of strange for someone who professes to know better.

 

if a poor soul DEMANDS respect..

 

that somewhat doesn't deserve it.

 

besides..what's different between respect and it's supposed other?

 

only a self-loving deceit of the 'someone out to get me' wave..

 

believes in either one.

 

take it easy phil.

 

take a big giant breath and calm down.

 

there now..isn't that better?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> perhaps a memory manual would be of more assistance to you.

>

> how do you get away with that childish idea..

>

> that only you have the right to be offensive here?

>

> if you can't get tackled but want to tackle others..

>

> you should plainly get off the field.

>

>

>

> ****This is an attempt to create the notion that the offensiveness

began

> with me. Before I posted here, I read the last page of posts, most

of which were

> Booboo's, and I don't know how anyone could see them as anything but

> offensive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

excuses like that are tedious and tiresome.

 

be a man and admit your shortcomings.

 

you're like the pea-shooting kid, who when confronted..

 

says " i didn't do it'

 

that's a bit disingenuous..

 

but it's ridiculous.

 

facts is facts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's also an attempt to characterize me as the bully who's afraid of

> getting hurt, a continuation of the same pattern.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a bully????????????

 

hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!

 

that's a good one.

 

this pattern of self aggrandizement and self deceit is indecorous.

 

phil...you're just you..

 

don't feel ashamed of this.

 

overcompensating for character shortfalls is not the way.

 

accept what is and be free.

 

this is freely given good advise for the good.

 

heed it and you will rise above those petty particulars.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> that's not the way things go...here or anywhere.

>

> when you mature you wqill have found this out.

>

> until then, i hope the advise helps out.

>

> your advisor in all matters,

>

> .b b.b.

>

>

>

> **** Labeling others as immature of course positions him as the

mature one.

> Positioning himself as the compassionate advisor creates the

appearance of

> superiority while simultaneously labeling the advised as inferior.

>

> I suspect nobody is falling for the awakened egoless act, but what

might not

> be immediately recognized is that he is also unconscious in that he's

> unaware of his projections and unconscious motivations. There's

nothing here to be

> judged and there isn't even anybody present to own the ego in

question, and

> so nobody to blame, but it's interesting to note that the concepts

are known so

> well that Booboo could probably pull off a satsang if not for his

> unconscious ego reactions, which he can't hide from the more aware.

Such knowledge has

> no effect on ego.

> My oppologies to those who are offended by such discussions. It's

not my

> intention.

>

>

>

> Phil

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no 'oppologies' required.

 

it's sad to see you so excited as to misspell words like that.

 

i know that if it wasn't for your fear and loathing..

 

that you wouldn't bang out those errors on the keyboard.

 

and it's really fun..though perhaps a bit disturbing..

 

to see you in a tirade of misconception and vile vitriol.

 

such abusive or venomous language..

 

used to express blame or censure or bitter deep-seated ill will..

 

is not your True Nature guy.

 

you know that i'm sure.

 

god bless you phil..

 

baba does.

 

:-)

 

healing and helping i remain,

 

..b b.b.

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