Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Instant karma...........Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Instant karma...........> Simplistic religiosity. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > Simplistic religiosity. > > > > > toombaru > Hi there, Sounds good though. I don't believe there is a 'God' doing anything but within illusion there are gods as well as humans that do things, no matter how delusional...Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > Simplistic religiosity. > > > > > toombaru > Hi there, Sounds good though. I don't believe there is a 'God' doing anything but within illusion there are gods as well as humans that do things, no matter how delusional... --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > > > > > > Simplistic religiosity. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > Hi there, > > Sounds good though. I don't believe there is a 'God' doing anything > but within illusion there are gods as well as humans that do things, > no matter how delusional...> I hope that the universe is not inclined to punish the Chinese. Do you remember what we did to the Indians? :-0 toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > > > > > > Simplistic religiosity. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > Hi there, > > Sounds good though. I don't believe there is a 'God' doing anything > but within illusion there are gods as well as humans that do things, > no matter how delusional...> I am not saying that what the Chinese did was good.....but Tibet was a miserable place to live before the invasion. It was a feudal state in which slaves as serfs toiled under the egis of the monk's approval. The monks routinely stole small boys for their monasteries.. Most Tibetans interviewed would like to return to Tibet.....but not the one they left behind. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simplistic religiosity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > Hi there, > > > > Sounds good though. I don't believe there is a 'God' doing anything > > but within illusion there are gods as well as humans that do things, > > no matter how delusional...> > > > > I am not saying that what the Chinese did was good.....but Tibet was a miserable place to > live before the invasion. > It was a feudal state in which slaves as serfs toiled under the egis of the monk's approval. > The monks routinely stole small boys for their monasteries.. > > Most Tibetans interviewed would like to return to Tibet.....but not the one they left behind. > toombaru Hi, Nor the one that is there now. It is interesting that many people poo poo believers in gods and spirits yet believe in an all powerful god. I think the superstitions about gods, devas, angels carry more truth and even the planet has a planetary deity.Albeit all within illusion but real whilst one is in it......It is believed by some that Adam as an idea was in fact a descent of the planetary deity..........Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Instant karma........... whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant ignorance....be carefull.....with your karma.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Instant karma...........> > > whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant ignorance....be > carefull.....with your karma.... > > Marc > Namaste, Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is ultimately delusion..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant ignorance....be > > carefull.....with your karma.... > > > > Marc > > > Namaste, > > Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is ultimately > delusion..Tony. > I bow to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant ignorance....be > > carefull.....with your karma.... > > > > Marc > > > Namaste, > > Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is ultimately > delusion..Tony. > When one is realised.......there is nothing left to be realised. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > > > > whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant ignorance....be > > > carefull.....with your karma.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > Namaste, > > > > Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is ultimately > > delusion..Tony. > > > > I bow to that. > How can you bow to that, Johan ? Are you realized yourself, like is, to be enabled to decide when to bow and when not to bow ? It is amazing to see when reading those posts here how many members already must be realized. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant ignorance....be > > carefull.....with your karma.... > > > > Marc > > > Namaste, > > Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is ultimately > delusion..Tony. true > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > > > > whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant ignorance....be > > > carefull.....with your karma.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > Namaste, > > > > Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is ultimately > > delusion..Tony. > > > > > > When one is realised.......there is nothing left to be realised. > > > > toombaru yes....true words.... .... the tomato seller know what he/she is selling.... the spiritual seller/business-person don't realy know, ....neither " what " he/she is selling....nor to " whom " the one who buy spirituality in whatever forms....just like the one who is selling spirituality must both....be mad..... united in/within madness.....sickness of mind ...... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > > > > > > > whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant > ignorance....be > > > > carefull.....with your karma.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is ultimately > > > delusion..Tony. > > > > > > > I bow to that. > > > > > How can you bow to that, Johan ? Are you realized yourself, like > is, to be enabled to decide when to bow and when not to bow ? > > It is amazing to see when reading those posts here how many members > already must be realized. > > Werner > Feeling left out? You're not jealous are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant > > ignorance....be > > > > > carefull.....with your karma.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is ultimately > > > > delusion..Tony. > > > > > > > > > > I bow to that. > > > > > > > > > How can you bow to that, Johan ? Are you realized yourself, like > > > is, to be enabled to decide when to bow and when not to bow ? > > > > It is amazing to see when reading those posts here how many > members > > already must be realized. > > > > Werner > > > > Feeling left out? You're not jealous are you? > You almost got it, Johan, It is your need to belong to and the fear of being an oudsider, which lets you wear these spiritual clothes you think you might look attractive in. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > <aoclery@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant > > > ignorance....be > > > > > > carefull.....with your karma.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is ultimately > > > > > delusion..Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I bow to that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can you bow to that, Johan ? Are you realized yourself, like > > > > > is, to be enabled to decide when to bow and when not to bow ? > > > > > > It is amazing to see when reading those posts here how many > > members > > > already must be realized. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > Feeling left out? You're not jealous are you? > > > > > You almost got it, Johan, > > It is your need to belong to and the fear of being an oudsider, which > lets you wear these spiritual clothes you think you might look > attractive in. > > Werner > I bow to that too... Funny you said that, and you're right I usually hang on to my belongings, but forget about my real longings, especially when wasting time at this forum. Do you think jeans and T are appropriate for this group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > <aoclery@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant > > > > ignorance....be > > > > > > > carefull.....with your karma.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is > ultimately > > > > > > delusion..Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I bow to that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can you bow to that, Johan ? Are you realized yourself, > like > > > > > > > is, to be enabled to decide when to bow and when not to bow ? > > > > > > > > It is amazing to see when reading those posts here how many > > > members > > > > already must be realized. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > Feeling left out? You're not jealous are you? > > > > > > > > > You almost got it, Johan, > > > > It is your need to belong to and the fear of being an oudsider, > which > > lets you wear these spiritual clothes you think you might look > > attractive in. > > > > Werner > > > > I bow to that too... > > Funny you said that, and you're right I usually hang on to my > belongings, but forget about my real longings, especially when > wasting time at this forum. > > Do you think jeans and T are appropriate for this group? > And as I can see, Johan, you haven't lost your humour, which is more worth than all that spiritual crap going on here. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant > > > > > ignorance....be > > > > > > > > carefull.....with your karma.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is > > ultimately > > > > > > > delusion..Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I bow to that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can you bow to that, Johan ? Are you realized yourself, > > like > > > > > > > > > is, to be enabled to decide when to bow and when not to bow ? > > > > > > > > > > It is amazing to see when reading those posts here how many > > > > members > > > > > already must be realized. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feeling left out? You're not jealous are you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > You almost got it, Johan, > > > > > > It is your need to belong to and the fear of being an oudsider, > > which > > > lets you wear these spiritual clothes you think you might look > > > attractive in. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > I bow to that too... > > > > Funny you said that, and you're right I usually hang on to my > > belongings, but forget about my real longings, especially when > > wasting time at this forum. > > > > Do you think jeans and T are appropriate for this group? > > > > > And as I can see, Johan, you haven't lost your humour, which is more > worth than all that spiritual crap going on here. > > Werner > What did you expect to find here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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