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In a message dated 15/05/2008 1:22:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wwoehr writes:

Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > In a message dated 14/05/2008 10:35:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > wwoehr writes:> > Nisargadatta , "Johan" <yohansky@> wrote:> >> > Nisargadatta , "Tony OClery" <aoclery@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Nisargadatta , "dennis_travis33" > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Nisargadatta , "Tony OClery" <aoclery@> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Instant karma...........Tony> > > > > > > > > > > > whoever is observing "instant karma" get instant > ignorance....be > > > > carefull.....with your karma....> > > > > > > > Marc> > > >> > > Namaste,> > > > > > Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is ultimately > > > delusion..Tony.> > >> > > > I bow to that.> >> > > How can you bow to that, Johan ? Are you realized yourself, like Tony > is, to be enabled to decide when to bow and when not to bow ?> > It is amazing to see when reading those posts here how many members > already must be realized.> > Werner> > > > ****I'm not 'realized' but I agree with Tony, and I'm not much for bowing > but I didn't know that was some kind of universal sign of 'realization' or > sumthin. Aren't peeps allowed to just bow for the halibut?> > Maybe you too are infected by that spiritual boasting which also is agoing on in this forum, Phil ?And you already are so much used to it yourself that you no longer reckognize your own and that showff of most of the members here.Werner

 

***I see it, Werner. I see it everywhere. I even see it in your certainty that you know exactly what's going on and what's wrong with everybody else. Stop and ask youself how much love and affection I gain from this group with all my showoff boasting. Do I have the girls swooning yet or my devoted fans sitting at my guru feet? Not yet? Do you really think I'm so stupid that I would keep trying to impress a group of folks who at best ignore me and at worst are hateful and ugly?

 

The thing is I don't give a flying f*ck what anybody here thinks of me because all those high school ego motivations are just happening on your end. I'm here for a very odd reason that you would never guess in a million years. I'm here looking at what this whole Truth deal is all about, and I'm grateful when the egos can just shut the hell up long enough for me to get some work done. I don't care why everybody else is here and I sure as hell don't care if they bow. It beats the heck out of telling people they're boasting or reminding them in every post that they're doing everything wrong. Who cares? Seriously.Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food.

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Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 14/05/2008 10:35:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> wwoehr writes:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery "

<aoclery@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Instant karma...........> > > >

> > > >

> > > > whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant

> ignorance....be

> > > > carefull.....with your karma....

> > > >

> > > > Marc

> > > >

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is ultimately

> > > delusion..Tony.

> > >

> >

> > I bow to that.

> >

>

>

> How can you bow to that, Johan ? Are you realized yourself, like

> is, to be enabled to decide when to bow and when not to bow ?

>

> It is amazing to see when reading those posts here how many

members

> already must be realized.

>

> Werner

>

>

>

> ****I'm not 'realized' but I agree with Tony, and I'm not much for

bowing

> but I didn't know that was some kind of universal sign

of 'realization' or

> sumthin. Aren't peeps allowed to just bow for the halibut?

>

>

 

 

Maybe you too are infected by that spiritual boasting which also is

agoing on in this forum, Phil ?

 

And you already are so much used to it yourself that you no longer

reckognize your own and that showff of most of the members here.

 

Werner

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Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 15/05/2008 1:22:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> wwoehr writes:

>

> Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 14/05/2008 10:35:24 PM Pacific Daylight

Time,

> > wwoehr@ writes:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery "

> <aoclery@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Instant karma...........> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > whoever is observing " instant karma " get instant

> > ignorance....be

> > > > > carefull.....with your karma....

> > > > >

> > > > > Marc

> > > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > Unless one is realised one is ignorant all else is

ultimately

> > > > delusion..Tony.

> > > >

> > >

> > > I bow to that.

> > >

> >

> >

> > How can you bow to that, Johan ? Are you realized yourself,

like

> > > is, to be enabled to decide when to bow and when not to bow ?

> >

> > It is amazing to see when reading those posts here how many

> members

> > already must be realized.

> >

> > Werner

> >

> >

> >

> > ****I'm not 'realized' but I agree with Tony, and I'm not much

for

> bowing

> > but I didn't know that was some kind of universal sign

> of 'realization' or

> > sumthin. Aren't peeps allowed to just bow for the halibut?

> >

> >

>

>

> Maybe you too are infected by that spiritual boasting which also

is

> agoing on in this forum, Phil ?

>

> And you already are so much used to it yourself that you no longer

> reckognize your own and that showff of most of the members here.

>

> Werner

>

>

>

> ***I see it, Werner. I see it everywhere. I even see it in your

certainty

> that you know exactly what's going on and what's wrong with

everybody else. Stop

> and ask youself how much love and affection I gain from this group

with all

> my showoff boasting. Do I have the girls swooning yet or my devoted

fans

> sitting at my guru feet? Not yet? Do you really think I'm so

stupid that I would

> keep trying to impress a group of folks who at best ignore me and

at worst

> are hateful and ugly?

>

> The thing is I don't give a flying f*ck what anybody here thinks of

me

> because all those high school ego motivations are just happening on

your end. I'm

> here for a very odd reason that you would never guess in a million

years. I'm

> here looking at what this whole Truth deal is all about, and I'm

grateful

> when the egos can just shut the hell up long enough for me to get

some work

> done. I don't care why everybody else is here and I sure as hell

don't care if

> they bow. It beats the heck out of telling people they're boasting

or reminding

> them in every post that they're doing everything wrong. Who

cares?

> Seriously.

>

 

 

Don't get angry Phil,

 

Calm down and see what you replied are just excuses.

 

Werner

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In a message dated 15/05/2008 2:41:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wwoehr writes:

> > How can you bow to that, Johan ? Are you realized yourself, like > Tony > > is, to be enabled to decide when to bow and when not to bow ?> > > > It is amazing to see when reading those posts here how many > members > > already must be realized.> > > > Werner> >> > Feeling left out? You're not jealous are you?>You almost got it, Johan,It is your need to belong to and the fear of being an oudsider, which lets you wear these spiritual clothes you think you might look attractive in.Werner

 

***But these orange robes are really cool!.........Well, sorta.Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food.

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In a message dated 15/05/2008 2:47:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wwoehr writes:

> > ***I see it, Werner. I see it everywhere. I even see it in your certainty > that you know exactly what's going on and what's wrong with everybody else. Stop > and ask youself how much love and affection I gain from this group with all > my showoff boasting. Do I have the girls swooning yet or my devoted fans > sitting at my guru feet? Not yet? Do you really think I'm so stupid that I would > keep trying to impress a group of folks who at best ignore me and at worst > are hateful and ugly? > > The thing is I don't give a flying f*ck what anybody here thinks of me > because all those high school ego motivations are just happening on your end. I'm > here for a very odd reason that you would never guess in a million years. I'm > here looking at what this whole Truth deal is all about, and I'm grateful > when the egos can just shut the hell up long enough for me to get some work > done. I don't care why everybody else is here and I sure as hell don't care if > they bow. It beats the heck out of telling people they're boasting or reminding > them in every post that they're doing everything wrong. Who cares? > Seriously.> Don't get angry Phil,Calm down and see what you replied are just excuses.Werner

 

****I thought it might at least appeal to your damnable logic.Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food.

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In a message dated 15/05/2008 5:05:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, yohansky writes:

> > Funny you said that, and you're right I usually hang on to my > > belongings, but forget about my real longings, especially when > > wasting time at this forum. > > > > Do you think jeans and T are appropriate for this group?> >> > > And as I can see, Johan, you haven't lost your humour, which is more > worth than all that spiritual crap going on here.> > Werner>What did you expect to find here?

 

****I'm guessing, something that he can understand which also aligns with his belief system, which narrows the field considerably.Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food.

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In a message dated 15/05/2008 6:28:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, yohansky writes:

Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > In a message dated 15/05/2008 5:05:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > yohansky writes:> > > > Funny you said that, and you're right I usually hang on to my > > > belongings, but forget about my real longings, especially when > > > wasting time at this forum. > > > > > > Do you think jeans and T are appropriate for this group?> > >> > > > > > And as I can see, Johan, you haven't lost your humour, which is > more > > worth than all that spiritual crap going on here.> > > > Werner> >> > What did you expect to find here?> > > > ****I'm guessing, something that he can understand which also aligns with > his belief system, which narrows the field considerably.> )) Please permit me to give you some unasked advice, be carefull with what you say, it always 'considerably' tells a bit about yourself.

 

***Yes, it always does, which is actually a good enough reason to speak one's mind. It's always possible the speaker is listening. And so it seems that you suggest care be taken because there is something about myself which I wish to hide. That much seems obvious, right? Why would I wish to hide something about myself? It would have to be self judgment, right? What if there is no self judgment here and I'm not actually trying to hide at all?

 

Obviously, you understand how what you say applies to yourself as well, so you can look to see where you find the self judgment that you project onto me. I say that's excellent work in self knowledge (or whatever name you'd like to assign to it) and a very good reason for us to be here working and looking. Don't you agree?Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food.

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Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 15/05/2008 5:05:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> yohansky writes:

>

> > > Funny you said that, and you're right I usually hang on to my

> > > belongings, but forget about my real longings, especially

when

> > > wasting time at this forum.

> > >

> > > Do you think jeans and T are appropriate for this group?

> > >

> >

> >

> > And as I can see, Johan, you haven't lost your humour, which is

> more

> > worth than all that spiritual crap going on here.

> >

> > Werner

> >

>

> What did you expect to find here?

>

>

>

> ****I'm guessing, something that he can understand which also

aligns with

> his belief system, which narrows the field considerably.

>

 

))

 

Please permit me to give you some unasked advice, be carefull with

what you say, it always 'considerably' tells a bit about yourself.

 

 

>

>

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In a message dated 15/05/2008 11:19:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, yohansky writes:

> ***Yes, it always does, which is actually a good enough reason to speak > one's mind. It's always possible the speaker is listening. And so it seems that > you suggest care be taken because there is something about myself which I wish > to hide. That much seems obvious, right? Why would I wish to hide something > about myself? It would have to be self judgment, right? What if there is no > self judgment here and I'm not actually trying to hide at all? > > Obviously, you understand how what you say applies to yourself as well, so > you can look to see where you find the self judgment that you project onto me. > I say that's excellent work in self knowledge (or whatever name you'd like to > assign to it) and a very good reason for us to be here working and looking. > Don't you agree? I agree to some Dgree because, all that searching and looking for oneself and selknowledge stuff is making me throw up really, its a nightmare at best, most of the times - if you ask me.Guess I haven't learnt how to use my memories correctly yet, and yes that might be a good reason to keep working...in the dream.

 

****Yeah, it's not the most fun part of the spiritual circus, but it works. I feel like I had an advantage of sorts cause human nature always fascinated me. Turning it on myself and unearthing all these odd motives and such is kinda freaky, (not sure if that's what you mean) but living consciously is the only way to go. Oddly, when I finally get to where I'm not judging myself anymore, it gets really clear that the ego I've been working on all this time never existed to begin with. Hehe.

(Still waiting for the women to swoon and the followers to sit at my feet, though. :)Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food.

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Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 15/05/2008 6:28:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> yohansky writes:

>

> Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 15/05/2008 5:05:44 PM Pacific Daylight

Time,

> > yohansky@ writes:

> >

> > > > Funny you said that, and you're right I usually hang on to

my

> > > > belongings, but forget about my real longings, especially

> when

> > > > wasting time at this forum.

> > > >

> > > > Do you think jeans and T are appropriate for this group?

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > And as I can see, Johan, you haven't lost your humour, which

is

> > more

> > > worth than all that spiritual crap going on here.

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> >

> > What did you expect to find here?

> >

> >

> >

> > ****I'm guessing, something that he can understand which also

> aligns with

> > his belief system, which narrows the field considerably.

> >

>

> ))

>

> Please permit me to give you some unasked advice, be carefull

with

> what you say, it always 'considerably' tells a bit about

yourself.

>

>

>

> ***Yes, it always does, which is actually a good enough reason to

speak

> one's mind. It's always possible the speaker is listening. And so

it seems that

> you suggest care be taken because there is something about myself

which I wish

> to hide. That much seems obvious, right? Why would I wish to hide

something

> about myself? It would have to be self judgment, right? What if

there is no

> self judgment here and I'm not actually trying to hide at all?

>

> Obviously, you understand how what you say applies to yourself as

well, so

> you can look to see where you find the self judgment that you

project onto me.

> I say that's excellent work in self knowledge (or whatever name

you'd like to

> assign to it) and a very good reason for us to be here working

and looking.

> Don't you agree?

 

I agree to some Dgree because, all that searching and looking for

oneself and selknowledge stuff is making me throw up really, its a

nightmare at best, most of the times - if you ask me.

 

Guess I haven't learnt how to use my memories correctly yet, and yes

that might be a good reason to keep working...in the dream.

 

 

 

>

>

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