Guest guest Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > I am not saying that normal down to earth existence is a bad > thing. > > > > > > > > > > Then what are you saying? > > > > > > Within manifestation...sentience is an extremely rare and > precious gift. > > > > Within sentience.......awareness of self is the rarest and most > exotic. > > > > It offers the broadest spectrum of experience ever available to > any life form. > > > > When sentience becomes aware of its self within a conceptual > context a sort of phantom > > emerges....and in that identifying circularity a desire to protect > that which never existed > > becomes a preoccupation. > > > > The sense of a separate self evolved because it helps the organism > survive and > > reproduce......but it does have a down side. > > > > There is an alternative way to perceive reality in which the sense > of self is no longer the > > center of one's world. > > > > But it does not lend itself to conceptualization simply because > it is in the naming of > > things that it emerges and sustains its pseudo reatity. > > > > Do you really think that if the 'great beings' addressed their > followers with speeches like the above we would have the great > (disastrous?) religions as we know them to be today? > I don't think so, and I'm pretty sure that you must be only one > who's very very impressed with this avalanche of nonsense, let alone > find any meaning in it. > Simplicity is the mother of genius and wisdom, WAKE UP TO IT Toom, > there are enough Tolles, Robbins es and Dr. Phills around us. You > are hindered by your knowledge. You apparently are under the impression that I am here to teach. I am not. I could give a hoot if you....or anyone " gets " what I am saying. I am here to explore my own outer edge. If you can offer nothing that adds to the content of the discussion other than snide negation....you are of no value or interest to me. If you do not resonate with what I say.......find someone with whom you do. So far almost everything that has transpired between us has been barren. And I can see no reason the continue this conversation. I thought that maybe a door had opened between us......I was wrong. In the future, if you respond in the same fashion that you have in the past......I will refrain from comment. > > > > Of course......as they quoted from those who preceded them. > > > > Nisargadatta did not come up with " blood washing blood " or " child > of a barren woman " . > > > > All of what Christ said can be found in earlier texts. > > > > Ramana referred to many ancient works....as did Sankara. > > > > There is nothing new in any of their works. > > > > There is nothing new about their works? Do you really think that all > your thousands of contrived posts have contributed to better > understanding of the unexplainable? Do you really think you can > better those sages? Why all the effort? I have mead more sages than you can imagine. I am no longer interested in what they had to say. To me.....their words.......all of their word are as dry dust. They have a no nutritional value. They are lifeless and useless to the ever expanding freshness that presents its self moment to moment. There will come a time....or not.......when you experience them for what they truly are. > > And yes, of course 'the great masters' may have borrowed some of the > already existing texts, if at all, in their run up to liberation. The fact that you still believe that there is such a thing as liberation and that there are liberated beings....indicates that you are in the early stages of the search......I wish you well....but would suggest that you stay away from anyone who has experienced the emptiness. Early exposure can be catastrophic. I put a lot of thought into these responses and simply do not have the time or interest to relate in that level. So if you wish the continue your tirade.....I will not respond. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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