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> > > Consciousness and awareness are two names that the conceptual

> > > mind uses in an attempt

> > > to explain its own assumed reality.

> > >

> > > They reflect the fundamentally dualistic nature of the mind and,

> > > in

> > > fact, have no value in

> > > the attempt by the mind to explain its own nature......since

> > > there isn't one.

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> >

> >

> > Not quite, Toomb,

> >

> > I wouldn't describe it as two names " of the conceptual mind " but

> > rather of the categorizing mind.

> >

> > There is a difference between a concept and a category. Awareness or

> > consciousness in my understanding are no concepts but categories

> > of one's physical exisatence like leg, eye, ear etc.

> >

> > Most problems are caused in spirtual and religious discussions

> > when

> > consciousness no longer is just a category but becomes a concept

> > like " pure consciousness " , " cosmic consciousness " , " universal

> > consciousness " or " divine consciousness " or " consciouness being of

> > divine origin " you know, all that crap people love to invent to

> > give their shoddy little life a bit more meaning.

> >

> > Werner

> >

>

> I start to understand what is going on. I look at Nisargadatta's

> terms as tools to achiedve clarity,

 

okey: tools for Realization

 

I'm curious Werner, do you believe, that there is a such a thing as

Enlightenment ?

 

 

 

> not as a linguist, or

> philosopher, what is interesting btw.

>

> Era

>

> That the German language has no word for awareness is mind bugleing

>

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