Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Era " <mi_nok wrote: > > > > > > > > > Consciousness and awareness are two names that the conceptual > > > > mind uses in an attempt > > > > to explain its own assumed reality. > > > > > > > > They reflect the fundamentally dualistic nature of the mind and, > > > > in > > > > fact, have no value in > > > > the attempt by the mind to explain its own nature......since > > > > there isn't one. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not quite, Toomb, > > > > > > I wouldn't describe it as two names " of the conceptual mind " but > > > rather of the categorizing mind. > > > > > > There is a difference between a concept and a category. Awareness or > > > consciousness in my understanding are no concepts but categories > > > of one's physical exisatence like leg, eye, ear etc. > > > > > > Most problems are caused in spirtual and religious discussions > > > when > > > consciousness no longer is just a category but becomes a concept > > > like " pure consciousness " , " cosmic consciousness " , " universal > > > consciousness " or " divine consciousness " or " consciouness being of > > > divine origin " you know, all that crap people love to invent to > > > give their shoddy little life a bit more meaning. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > I start to understand what is going on. I look at Nisargadatta's > > terms as tools to achiedve clarity, > > okey: tools for Realization > > I'm curious Werner, do you believe, that there is a such a thing as > Enlightenment ? > Hi Era, Fine that you are curious and so we stay in contact To answer your question, I have no idea what enlightenment is and because in the last 40 years I have read so much about enlightenment that I am also no longer interested in it. But what I am interested in, and that's why am here on this list, is the realization of one's own non-existence. With realization I mean really to absolutely know it, taste it, see it, hear it and feel it Warning: Everyone trying now to tell me that the last sentence is a contradiction I promise will cut his ears off as soon as I get hold of him ! Werner > > > > not as a linguist, or > > philosopher, what is interesting btw. > > > > Era > > > > That the German language has no word for awareness is mind bugleing > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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