Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 > > > > Most problems are caused in spirtual and religious discussions > > > > when > > > > consciousness no longer is just a category but becomes a > > > > concept > > > > like " pure consciousness " , " cosmic consciousness " , " universal > > > > consciousness " or " divine consciousness " or " consciouness <znip> > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > I start to understand what is going on. I look at > > > Nisargadatta's > > > terms as tools to achiedve clarity, > > > > okey: tools for Realization > > > > I'm curious Werner, do you believe, that there is a such a > > thing as Enlightenment ? > > > > > Hi Era, > > Fine that you are curious and so we stay in contact > > To answer your question, I have no idea what enlightenment is and > because in the last 40 years I have read so much about enlightenment > that I am also no longer interested in it. > > But what I am interested in, and that's why am here on this list, is > the realization of one's own non-existence. > > With realization I mean really to absolutely know it, taste it, see > it, hear it and feel it ahh highly interesting ! non-existence I grab it from the other end: I want to realize, that there is only " Awareness " or " Self " , or God: to give up doership and BE AT PEACE always in the zone. --Lately I think, that Awakening, Realization and Enlightenment are the same and sense, that Satori has a different quality..sort of down to earth empty, maybe that is what you are looking for. I met many gurus and some godintoxicated, some gaze was like rude awakening, but the zen were almost scary.. Maybe all take one to a state, that there is only God, or only Self, only Awareness, no small-self etc.. How do you see the difference ? http://sped2work.tripod.com/satori.html Era > Warning: Everyone trying now to tell me that the last sentence is a > contradiction I promise will cut his ears off as soon as I get hold > of him ! > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > not as a linguist, or > > > philosopher, what is interesting btw. > > > > > > Era > > > > > > That the German language has no word for awareness is mind > bugleing > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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