Guest guest Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 > > > > > > HEYY Pete ! before any more endless word-games: > > > > > > 1. please read Jerry's, couple points about neo-advaita > > P: It's all word games. All sacred books, all spiritual books, > all spiritual posts, without exception, are word games. You > can only win when you realize it's all about manipulating > your mind to make you feel a certain way. No different that > spiritual pornography to get you high on self, God, Emptiness. > or what not. Eric gave a very simple answer: Advaita says > there is only One. Buddha said there is none. What is there > to explain? Exactly, altho I like to watch a good ballgame..but one streatched and played between 2 players for weeks tend to bore me... Era > NNB > > > > > > > > > > P: I see you don't value your ears. Not that I hear that > > > well, but mine keep my hat up. So, I'm going to risk > > > a reply. Let's see if by discussing this between the 3 of > > > us, we can clarify what is behind this desire to taste > > > our non-existence. > > > > > > We seem to agree that to have a self means to > > > remember that " representation. " It's not much > > > different than believing in Santa. We used to > > > believe in Santa, and have many pleasant > > > memories about the excitement of waiting > > > for him, and opening presents, and so for, but > > > once we understood Santa was just a lie, we > > > never wished to taste Santa's non-existence. > > > > > > So, why would a brain want to taste the non- > > > existence of his own representation? Could > > > not this be a another trick of self-deception? > > > > > > The brain fears that if it doesn't believe in > > > Werner, it wouldn't protect itself as aggressively > > > as if it did. So, wanting to feel the absent of the > > > self, is also a way of keeping the idea of a self > > > alive. It's much like trying to forget about a > > > pink elephant by reminding yourself not to > > > think about one. > > > > > > Werner, might mean by realizing, also, that he > > > wants be to be conscious of being unconscious. > > > > > > That feeling of not existing can't be experienced > > > as a presence, it can only be remembered as an > > > absence. > > > > > > Once we awake from a period of unconsciousness, > > > we notice consciousness has been absent for a > > > while, but how that felt can't be known. And that > > > is the perfection of it. > > > > > > We must deeply understand than to feel, to sense, > > > to be aware is to know better and worse, pleasure > > > and pain, joy and suffering. Only the non- > > > conscious can be perfect in its total lack of > > > qualities of any kind. > > > > > > So what is Nirvana? Nirvana is neither to fear nor > > > desire existence, nor non-existence. To deeply > > > relax in the peace and silence of perceiving and > > > its absence without the pernicious afterthought: > > > I'm perceiving this, but I would rather... > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > http://cerosoul.wordpress.com > > > > > > enlightenedfiction > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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