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> > HEYY Pete ! before any more endless word-games:

> >

> >

> > 1. please read Jerry's, couple points about neo-advaita

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> P: It's all word games. All sacred books, all spiritual books,

> all spiritual posts, without exception, are word games. You

> can only win when you realize it's all about manipulating

> your mind to make you feel a certain way. No different that

> spiritual pornography to get you high on self, God, Emptiness.

> or what not. Eric gave a very simple answer: Advaita says

> there is only One. Buddha said there is none. What is there

> to explain?

 

Exactly, altho I like to watch a good ballgame..but one streatched

and played between 2 players for weeks tend to bore me...

 

Era

 

 

> NNB

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> >

> > >

> > > P: I see you don't value your ears. Not that I hear that

> > > well, but mine keep my hat up. So, I'm going to risk

> > > a reply. Let's see if by discussing this between the 3 of

> > > us, we can clarify what is behind this desire to taste

> > > our non-existence.

> > >

> > > We seem to agree that to have a self means to

> > > remember that " representation. " It's not much

> > > different than believing in Santa. We used to

> > > believe in Santa, and have many pleasant

> > > memories about the excitement of waiting

> > > for him, and opening presents, and so for, but

> > > once we understood Santa was just a lie, we

> > > never wished to taste Santa's non-existence.

> > >

> > > So, why would a brain want to taste the non-

> > > existence of his own representation? Could

> > > not this be a another trick of self-deception?

> > >

> > > The brain fears that if it doesn't believe in

> > > Werner, it wouldn't protect itself as aggressively

> > > as if it did. So, wanting to feel the absent of the

> > > self, is also a way of keeping the idea of a self

> > > alive. It's much like trying to forget about a

> > > pink elephant by reminding yourself not to

> > > think about one.

> > >

> > > Werner, might mean by realizing, also, that he

> > > wants be to be conscious of being unconscious.

> > >

> > > That feeling of not existing can't be experienced

> > > as a presence, it can only be remembered as an

> > > absence.

> > >

> > > Once we awake from a period of unconsciousness,

> > > we notice consciousness has been absent for a

> > > while, but how that felt can't be known. And that

> > > is the perfection of it.

> > >

> > > We must deeply understand than to feel, to sense,

> > > to be aware is to know better and worse, pleasure

> > > and pain, joy and suffering. Only the non-

> > > conscious can be perfect in its total lack of

> > > qualities of any kind.

> > >

> > > So what is Nirvana? Nirvana is neither to fear nor

> > > desire existence, nor non-existence. To deeply

> > > relax in the peace and silence of perceiving and

> > > its absence without the pernicious afterthought:

> > > I'm perceiving this, but I would rather...

> > >

> > > Pete

> > >

> > > http://cerosoul.wordpress.com

> > >

> > > enlightenedfiction

> >

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