Guest guest Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Harshaji/ Werner Re: " Now " > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Era " <mi_nok@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > HEYY Pete ! before any more endless word-games: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. please read Jerry's, couple points about neo-advaita > > > > > > P: It's all word games. All sacred books, all spiritual books, > > > all spiritual posts, without exception, are word games. You > > > can only win when you realize it's all about manipulating > > > your mind to make you feel a certain way. No different that > > > spiritual pornography to get you high on self, God, Emptiness. > > > or what not. Eric gave a very simple answer: Advaita says > > > there is only One. Buddha said there is none. What is there > > > to explain? > > > > > > > > > > Ok Pete, > > > > and now I came along writing that I want to taste, smell, feel, hear > > and see my own non-existence, an expression which just combined > > Advaita's " One " and Buddha's " None " . > > > > In different words: When you see something then who is the see- er ? > > There is none. The seeing, the see-er and the seen is one and the > > same thing, " THAT " . > > > > But because of the separating tendencies of the left brain half which > > is responsible to create a seemingly separated see-er we never > > realize that unity and therefore also not at the same time one's own > > non-exsitence. > > > > You cannot approach that with the tools of logic and philosophy. But > > is is so, when the see-er is the seen then one can experience both > > at the same time: The seen and the non-existence of a see-er. > > > > Werner > > P: Thanks for writing that, Werner. Noticing > the non-existence of a pink elephant, is the > the pink elephant, again. There is no other > pink elephant that the thought of it, and both > noticing that we are thinking of a pink elephant, > and thinking that we are not thinking of a pink > elephant is the same pink elephant. It's the > same with the seer, or self, noticing its absent > is bringing its presence back. There is such > thing as seeing, or hearing without a sense of > self, but the moment I notice its absence, the > self is back. > > AC wrote something very true the other day, > maybe he wrote it as a joke, but it's true: > " I have realized often, but it fades away after > a while. " This is very true, the sense of self > always comes back. Only before realization > it was viewed as the real me, and after, it's > seen only as a vague bundle of feelings and > memories that the brain flashes on and off > to navigate the world. The brain uses the > self as a computer game about car racing > uses the image of a windshield and a > steering-wheel to symbolize the car you > are driving. This and moving the mouse > gives the feeling of racing down a road. > > It's wonderful seeing without a seer, it's > nice remembering it from the perspective > of a seer. It's also nice remembering > not being conscious at all. It makes death > look like a very good thing indeed. > > > > Thanks, Pete, It surely makes sense and it also is nicely written and cannot hide it stemmed from the hand of a writer. But besides that, your ears are off Its my fault. I souldn't have written that post about tasting one's own non-exsitence. It is a challinge to the intellect to step back and to be quiet. It cannot be quiet, it is its mental life to solve rddles or to see and point at contradictions. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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