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" Before you go to the lavatory you get the motion of urine or stool.

Similarly, before starting meditation you should get the motion for

realization. "

 

Paramahamsa Hariharananda

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Thanks Marc,This quote will definately help me. First thing compulsary for spiritual progress is your Goal. Without the Goal (of Self Realisation) nothing happens.couple more:)"Always be aware of your goal. Do not allow forgetfulness. Be still and know that you are God.""The needle of the compass of your mind should always point to the North to His presence."Paramhansa HariharanandaFw more:Many roads go to Delhi. Similarly, there are many ways to realize God. But follow only one to reach the goal.When one becomes desireless, one's actions do not bind any longer and one becomes free.*desirelessness is not a negative quality. It is a state of peace of mind. There is no mental

chatter.Paramhansa HariharanandaAnother one:Alone To ALONE All Alone All the Way - Swami Chinmaya:)Sujal--- On Wed, 4/6/08, dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote:dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 one moreNisargadatta Date: Wednesday, 4 June, 2008, 2:53 AM "Before you go to the lavatory you get the motion of urine or stool. Similarly, before starting meditation you should

get the motion for realization. " Paramahamsa Hariharananda

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Nisargadatta , sujal <sujal_u wrote:

>

> Thanks Marc,

>

> This quote will definately help me. First thing compulsary for

spiritual progress is your Goal. Without the Goal (of Self

Realisation) nothing happens..

>

 

 

yes, without such goal....nothing happens...

 

i mean, it's still possible to get/make a phd in ignorance....a

worthfull distinction to have a successful worldly life.....

 

but ignorance remain ignorance....even if one got a diploma in it....

 

:)

 

 

Marc

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Hello Marc,I have been struggling to get back on track of spiritual journey since 1 and 1/2 months. I tried hard and in process increased my detemination as not to leave meditation in the middle. Your quote reminded me of an inportant factor, i.e. goal, which i had been remembering it, before few months, and i used this factor to increase the depth and time of meditation. I have rested at home today, as i have a severe pain in my right hand.After reading this quote, i logged off and meditated. I Strengthened of Goal of SELF Realisation, at times when my mind started wavering. This helped me to neutralise my mind, accelarated my progress and increased the depth of meditation. Surrender to the God is

also very important. It increases the concentration without any effort. I have also observed, in the past, that even if the mind neutralises for few moments, all the mental strain and effort put in the meditation gets vapourised. It makes me fresh and you are ready to go for another hour or so. More time i stay in this neutral state, more is the clarity and freshness.it is the begining of an effortless meditation with absolutely no thoughts. I was completely relaxed at that time, without the experience of pain in my hand. I used to have this expreriences in the past, but somehow i slipped. Joining spiritual groups was one way tried to be in touch with spirituality. I really thank you for posting this quote.Honestly, i joined this group, because i was attracted to the vibration from the photo of Sri

Nisargadattaji. I had never heard of him before. After reading the intro of this group, it felt that Sri Nisargadattaji and Sri Ramana Maharshi have many things in common.  I expected some inspirational quotes and their explanation in this group, which could help me in my spiritual progress, but here some different "spiritual Salad' is cooking, as you mentioned earlier.AUMSujal--- On Wed, 4/6/08, dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote:dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 Re: one moreNisargadatta Date: Wednesday, 4 June, 2008, 4:01 AMNisargadatta, sujal <sujal_u > wrote: > > Thanks Marc, > > This quote will definately help me. First thing compulsary for spiritual progress is your Goal. Without the Goal (of Self Realisation) nothing happens.. > yes, without such goal....nothing happens... i mean, it's still possible to get/make a phd in ignorance... .a worthfull distinction to have a successful worldly life..... but ignorance remain ignorance... .even if one got a diploma in it.... :) Marc

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Nisargadatta , sujal <sujal_u wrote:

>

> Hello Marc,

>

> I have been struggling to get back on track of spiritual journey since 1 and

1/2 months.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nope..............You haven't been struggling at all.

 

 

'You " are the process in which the struggling appears.

 

 

 

 

 

t.

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Nisargadatta , sujal <sujal_u wrote:

>

> Hello Marc,

>

> I have been struggling to get back on track of spiritual journey since 1 and

1/2 months.

I tried hard and in process increased my detemination as not to leave meditation

in the

middle.

 

P: As Maharaj recommended to many seekers:

just sit and feel how consciousness feels like.

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Nisargadatta , sujal <sujal_u wrote:

>

> Hello Marc,

>

> I have been struggling to get back on track of spiritual journey

since 1 and 1/2 months. I tried hard and in process increased my

detemination as not to leave meditation in the middle. Your quote

reminded me of an inportant factor, i.e. goal, which i had been

remembering it, before few

months, and i used this factor to increase the depth and ti

me of meditation.

>

> I have rested at home today, as i have a severe pain in my right

hand.

> After reading this quote, i logged off and meditated. I

Strengthened of Goal of SELF

Realisation, at times when my mind started wavering. This hel

ped me to neutralise my mind, accelarated my progress and

increased the depth of meditation. Surrender to the God is

also very important. It increases the concentration without an

y effort.

>

> I have also observed, in the past, that even if the mind

neutralises for few moments, all the mental strain and effort put in

the meditation gets vapourised. It makes me fresh and you are ready

to go for another hour or so.

More time i stay in this neutral state, more is the clarity

 and freshness.

>

it is the begining of an effortless meditation with absolutel

y no thoughts. I was completely relaxed at that time, without the

experience of pain in my hand.

>

> I used to have this expreriences in the past, but somehow i

slipped. Joining spiritual groups was one way tried to be in

touch with spirituality.

>

> I really thank you for posting this quote.

>

> Honestly, i joined this group, because i was attracted to the

vibration from the photo of Sri

Nisargadattaji. I had never heard of him before. After readin

g the intro of this group, it felt that Sri Nisargadattaji 

and Sri Ramana Maharshi have many things in common. 

> I expected some inspirational quotes and their explanation in this

group, which could help me in my spiritual progress, but here some

different " spiritual Salad' is cooking, as you mentioned earlier.

>

> AUM

>

> Sujal

>

>

.....yes,....when you want to practise meditation.....then it's

necessary to practise regularly......

 

just like you eat & sleep regularly.....

 

means, if you want to get other habits/attitudes.....it's necessary

that you Do It......

 

......

 

if you want to get in touch with realy spiritual people.....i think

it's better and easier to enter in contact with some meditation

teachers living close to you......

 

there are many meditation techniques.....and normally, it need some

advises from a teacher/guru

 

.......

 

one day....i wanted to SEE a realised person......

means, somebody who passed some more steps of life(dream)

etc.......etc....

i also have been interested into meditation......

 

and so i decided to meet such a realised person........

 

........

 

so, wish you to meet with real spiritual people....:)

 

not like the ones in here....who imagine to be already enlightened

etc.....even more than Ramana and Nis etc....

 

but....

 

great fun in here....with such ego-minded people....

 

 

Marc

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