Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 The Wisdom of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj Posted by: " Manuel " manuel1498 manuel1498 Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:29 pm (PDT) " The real does not die, the unreal never lived. Set your mind right and all will be right. When you know that the world is one, that humanity is one, you will act accordingly. But first of all you must attend to the way you feel, think and live. Unless there is order in yourself, there can be no order in the world. " Subscribe: ANetofJewels- URL to this page: ANetofJewels A Net of Jewels Ramesh S. Balsekar http://www.advaita.org June 20 When the divine relationship between the guru as Consciousness and the disciple as Consciousness becomes ripe enough to fructify, they meet like two empty mirrors facing each other. _________________ Anna Ruiz http://www.mepforum.org/ ToomBebe/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > The Wisdom of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > Posted by: " Manuel " manuel1498 manuel1498 > Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:29 pm (PDT) > > > " The real does not die, the unreal never lived. Set your mind right > and all will be right. When you know that the world is one, that > humanity is one, you will act accordingly. But first of all you must > attend to the way you feel, think and live. Unless there is order in > yourself, there can be no order in the world. " > > Subscribe: ANetofJewels- > URL to this page: ANetofJewels > > > > A Net of Jewels > Ramesh S. Balsekar > http://www.advaita.org > > June 20 > > When the divine relationship between the guru as Consciousness and the > disciple as Consciousness becomes ripe enough to fructify, they meet > like two empty mirrors facing each other. Oh holy shit ! What a nonsense, Ana. Werner > _________________ > Anna Ruiz > http://www.mepforum.org/ > ToomBebe/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > The Wisdom of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > Posted by: " Manuel " manuel1498@ manuel1498 > > Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:29 pm (PDT) > > > > > > " The real does not die, the unreal never lived. Set your mind right > > and all will be right. When you know that the world is one, that > > humanity is one, you will act accordingly. But first of all you > must > > attend to the way you feel, think and live. Unless there is order > in > > yourself, there can be no order in the world. " > > > > Subscribe: ANetofJewels- > > URL to this page: ANetofJewels > > > > > > > > A Net of Jewels > > Ramesh S. Balsekar > > http://www.advaita.org > > > > June 20 > > > > When the divine relationship between the guru as Consciousness and > the > > disciple as Consciousness becomes ripe enough to fructify, they > meet > > like two empty mirrors facing each other. > > > Oh holy shit ! > > What a nonsense, Ana. > > Werner What nonsense? Your holy shit? Or the mirror's? Lol. Werner... Love ya, Anna > > > > _________________ > > Anna Ruiz > > http://www.mepforum.org/ > > ToomBebe/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > The Wisdom of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > Posted by: " Manuel " manuel1498@ manuel1498 > > > Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:29 pm (PDT) > > > > > > > > > " The real does not die, the unreal never lived. Set your mind right > > > and all will be right. When you know that the world is one, that > > > humanity is one, you will act accordingly. But first of all you > > must > > > attend to the way you feel, think and live. Unless there is order > > in > > > yourself, there can be no order in the world. " > > > > > > Subscribe: ANetofJewels- > > > URL to this page: ANetofJewels > > > > > > > > > > > > A Net of Jewels > > > Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > http://www.advaita.org > > > > > > June 20 > > > > > > When the divine relationship between the guru as Consciousness and > > the > > > disciple as Consciousness becomes ripe enough to fructify, they > > meet > > > like two empty mirrors facing each other. > > > > > > Oh holy shit ! > > > > What a nonsense, Ana. > > > > Werner > > > What nonsense? Your holy shit? Or the mirror's? > > Lol. Werner... > > Love ya, > Anna > Hi Anna, It was this passage which I called nonsense: " When the divine relationship between the guru as Consciousness and the disciple as Consciousness becomes ripe enough to fructify, they meet like two empty mirrors facing each other " . Werner > > > > > > > > > > _________________ > > > Anna Ruiz > > > http://www.mepforum.org/ > > > ToomBebe/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > The Wisdom of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > Posted by: " Manuel " manuel1498@ manuel1498 > > > > Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:29 pm (PDT) > > > > > > > > > > > > " The real does not die, the unreal never lived. Set your mind > right > > > > and all will be right. When you know that the world is one, > that > > > > humanity is one, you will act accordingly. But first of all you > > > must > > > > attend to the way you feel, think and live. Unless there is > order > > > in > > > > yourself, there can be no order in the world. " > > > > > > > > Subscribe: ANetofJewels- > > > > URL to this page: ANetofJewels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Net of Jewels > > > > Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > http://www.advaita.org > > > > > > > > June 20 > > > > > > > > When the divine relationship between the guru as Consciousness > and > > > the > > > > disciple as Consciousness becomes ripe enough to fructify, they > > > meet > > > > like two empty mirrors facing each other. > > > > > > > > > Oh holy shit ! > > > > > > What a nonsense, Ana. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > What nonsense? Your holy shit? Or the mirror's? > > > > Lol. Werner... > > > > Love ya, > > Anna > > > > > Hi Anna, > > It was this passage which I called nonsense: > > " When the divine relationship between the guru as Consciousness and > the disciple as Consciousness becomes ripe enough to fructify, they > meet like two empty mirrors facing each other " . > > Werner Hmmm. Werner. I can only say... Hmmm. The empty mirror is indeed a frightening thing for most folks. ~Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________ > > > > Anna Ruiz > > > > http://www.mepforum.org/ > > > > ToomBebe/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Wisdom of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > Posted by: " Manuel " manuel1498@ manuel1498 > > > > > Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:29 pm (PDT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The real does not die, the unreal never lived. Set your mind > > right > > > > > and all will be right. When you know that the world is one, > > that > > > > > humanity is one, you will act accordingly. But first of all you > > > > must > > > > > attend to the way you feel, think and live. Unless there is > > order > > > > in > > > > > yourself, there can be no order in the world. " > > > > > > > > > > Subscribe: ANetofJewels- > > > > > URL to this page: ANetofJewels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Net of Jewels > > > > > Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > http://www.advaita.org > > > > > > > > > > June 20 > > > > > > > > > > When the divine relationship between the guru as Consciousness > > and > > > > the > > > > > disciple as Consciousness becomes ripe enough to fructify, they > > > > meet > > > > > like two empty mirrors facing each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh holy shit ! > > > > > > > > What a nonsense, Ana. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > What nonsense? Your holy shit? Or the mirror's? > > > > > > Lol. Werner... > > > > > > Love ya, > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > Hi Anna, > > > > It was this passage which I called nonsense: > > > > " When the divine relationship between the guru as Consciousness and > > the disciple as Consciousness becomes ripe enough to fructify, they > > meet like two empty mirrors facing each other " . > > > > Werner > > > > Hmmm. Werner. I can only say... Hmmm. The empty mirror is indeed a > frightening thing for most folks. > > ~Anna No Anna, For heaven's sake please - consciousness is not a mirror. Consciousnesss IS its content - without content, no consciousness. There is no such a thing as a pure and emtpty consciousness. Consciousness IS its content. In the last time I have explained again and again the same thing. A pity that don't you read my posts. Anna, a poet also got the ability to learn something new, to throw away all that old crap which came down to us from millennia, like " pure consciousness " etc. Can you think for a monent about this ? Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________ > > > > > Anna Ruiz > > > > > http://www.mepforum.org/ > > > > > ToomBebe/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 "When the divine relationship between the guru as Consciousness and thedisciple as Consciousness becomes ripe enough to fructify, they meetlike two empty mirrors facing each other."E: IMO This can be put in context, if we assume, that Balsekar meant, that the guru held no "opinion" on his mind looking at the disciple: he was 'empty', and when a disciple reaches a state of 'emptiness' <no stance> they can "meet like two empty mirrors" something like: http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o3/era4/bu/maitreya_face_to_face.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 "When the divine relationship between the guru as Consciousness and thedisciple as Consciousness becomes ripe enough to fructify, they meetlike two empty mirrors facing each other."E: IMO This can be put in context, if we assume, that Balsekar meant, that the guru held no "opinion" on his mind looking at the disciple: he was 'empty', and when a disciple reaches a state of 'emptiness' <no stance> they can "meet like two empty mirrors"Well, one stance YES: Ramana's 'witness stance' something like: http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o3/era4/bu/maitreya_face_to_face.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " > <kailashana@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Wisdom of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > Posted by: " Manuel " manuel1498@ manuel1498 > > > > > > Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:29 pm (PDT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The real does not die, the unreal never lived. Set your > mind > > > right > > > > > > and all will be right. When you know that the world is one, > > > that > > > > > > humanity is one, you will act accordingly. But first of all > you > > > > > must > > > > > > attend to the way you feel, think and live. Unless there is > > > order > > > > > in > > > > > > yourself, there can be no order in the world. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Subscribe: ANetofJewels- > > > > > > URL to this page: > ANetofJewels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Net of Jewels > > > > > > Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > http://www.advaita.org > > > > > > > > > > > > June 20 > > > > > > > > > > > > When the divine relationship between the guru as > Consciousness > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > disciple as Consciousness becomes ripe enough to fructify, > they > > > > > meet > > > > > > like two empty mirrors facing each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh holy shit ! > > > > > > > > > > What a nonsense, Ana. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > What nonsense? Your holy shit? Or the mirror's? > > > > > > > > Lol. Werner... > > > > > > > > Love ya, > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Anna, > > > > > > It was this passage which I called nonsense: > > > > > > " When the divine relationship between the guru as Consciousness > and > > > the disciple as Consciousness becomes ripe enough to fructify, > they > > > meet like two empty mirrors facing each other " . > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > Hmmm. Werner. I can only say... Hmmm. The empty mirror is indeed > a > > frightening thing for most folks. > > > > ~Anna > > > > No Anna, > > For heaven's sake please - consciousness is not a mirror. > Consciousnesss IS its content - without content, no consciousness. > > There is no such a thing as a pure and emtpty consciousness. > Consciousness IS its content. > > In the last time I have explained again and again the same thing. A > pity that don't you read my posts. > > Anna, a poet also got the ability to learn something new, to throw > away all that old crap which came down to us from millennia, > like " pure consciousness " etc. > > Can you think for a monent about this ? > > Werner Consciousness is both the mirror and its content... it is you seeing me through your eyes and mu seeing you through my eyes. Since we can not really *see* one other in this internet venue nor can we filter/sort out all the physical nuances, we are left with words written across the computer screen. We assimilate them based on our experience of being who we are with all its myriad *impersonations, impersonalizations, provocations, invocations and personifications* we have experienced. Awareness, however, is that which simultaneously sees what is before it. *It* being the ever-fleeting *beingness* with which we have become *identified*. Yes. I do read you posts... always have. And I've never dismissed them... Light, Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________ > > > > > > Anna Ruiz > > > > > > http://www.mepforum.org/ > > > > > > ToomBebe/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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