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> -ac: is it better to live alone?

>

> - can I really live alone?

 

 

P: No one, ever, has lived alone.

 

A hermit, living in a hut in a

deserted island has taken her

mind with her, and this mind was

fashioned by her culture, and is

a representation of her countrymen.

 

Every time she thinks, it's they

who speak. It's the voices of

her parents, her lovers, her teachers,

her long gone friends and foes, her

culture that she hears with every

thought.

 

One can live physically apart, but

never alone. The mind is a machine

which was programmed by others. It

can only repeat such programming.

 

Attention and clarity can change

some of that software. A new

software can be downloaded which

will stop replaying the negative

incidents in one's pasts.

 

So, leaving your wife will only

create different problems. It's

better if you view your relationship

with your wife as your most important

sadhana. Perfecting that relationship

will perfect your mind also. We can

never leave the mind behind, we can

only understand it better and change it

somewhat.

http://cerosoul.wordpress.com

 

http://awakefiction.wordpress.com

 

 

Pete

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The mind can fall silent and become still...and with 'no mind' there

is no chatter or company.

 

Alone, in a way, is our nature...the Unborn...before the conditioning

and chatter.

 

But this can be anywhere...even in the company of 'others'. So there

is no need to run off anywhere to find solitude...it is here already.

 

Namaste,

 

~ Eric Putkonen

http://www.awaken2life.org

 

 

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

> > -ac: is it better to live alone?

> >

> > - can I really live alone?

>

>

> P: No one, ever, has lived alone.

>

> A hermit, living in a hut in a

> deserted island has taken her

> mind with her, and this mind was

> fashioned by her culture, and is

> a representation of her countrymen.

>

> Every time she thinks, it's they

> who speak. It's the voices of

> her parents, her lovers, her teachers,

> her long gone friends and foes, her

> culture that she hears with every

> thought.

>

> One can live physically apart, but

> never alone. The mind is a machine

> which was programmed by others. It

> can only repeat such programming.

>

> Attention and clarity can change

> some of that software. A new

> software can be downloaded which

> will stop replaying the negative

> incidents in one's pasts.

>

> So, leaving your wife will only

> create different problems. It's

> better if you view your relationship

> with your wife as your most important

> sadhana. Perfecting that relationship

> will perfect your mind also. We can

> never leave the mind behind, we can

> only understand it better and change it

> somewhat.

> http://cerosoul.wordpress.com

>

> http://awakefiction.wordpress.com

>

>

> Pete

>

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Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

> > -ac: is it better to live alone?

> >

> > - can I really live alone?

>

>

> P: No one, ever, has lived alone.

 

 

True, Pete, no man is an island.

 

Question:

 

Is there any difference between mind and consciousness or are these

just different words for the same thing ?

 

Therefore one also could ask:

 

Can consiousness ever be alone ?

 

Krishnamurti often stated: You have to be totally alone. And then he

went on explaining the root of " alone " as " all-one " , all one.

 

As long as thought is occupied with another person then one is

isolated from everything else - no matter if thazt person is

physically present or if it is just an innere dialog with someone at

the moment not being present.

 

If one is totally alone then one is connected to all and everything.

It is the end of isolation.

 

Werner

 

 

>

> A hermit, living in a hut in a

> deserted island has taken her

> mind with her, and this mind was

> fashioned by her culture, and is

> a representation of her countrymen.

>

> Every time she thinks, it's they

> who speak. It's the voices of

> her parents, her lovers, her teachers,

> her long gone friends and foes, her

> culture that she hears with every

> thought.

>

> One can live physically apart, but

> never alone. The mind is a machine

> which was programmed by others. It

> can only repeat such programming.

>

> Attention and clarity can change

> some of that software. A new

> software can be downloaded which

> will stop replaying the negative

> incidents in one's pasts.

>

> So, leaving your wife will only

> create different problems. It's

> better if you view your relationship

> with your wife as your most important

> sadhana. Perfecting that relationship

> will perfect your mind also. We can

> never leave the mind behind, we can

> only understand it better and change it

> somewhat.

> http://cerosoul.wordpress.com

>

> http://awakefiction.wordpress.com

>

>

> Pete

>

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Eric Putkonen wrote:

> The mind can fall silent and become still...and with 'no mind' there

> is no chatter or company.

>

> Alone, in a way, is our nature...the Unborn...before the conditioning

> and chatter.

>

> But this can be anywhere...even in the company of 'others'. So there

> is no need to run off anywhere to find solitude...it is here already.

>

> Namaste,

>

> ~ Eric Putkonen

> http://www.awaken2life.org

>

>

>

This is true, at least in my opinion.

 

I often find myself participating or conversating with people or groups

of people or in activities, but all the while I observe as though not

THAT. I experience no loneliness though in that, I experience a

liberation, a great joy.

 

love and peace,

 

tyga

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Nisargadatta , " Eric Putkonen " <eputkonen

wrote:

>

> The mind can fall silent and become still...and with 'no mind'

there

> is no chatter or company.

>

> Alone, in a way, is our nature...the Unborn...before the

conditioning

> and chatter.

>

> But this can be anywhere...even in the company of 'others'. So

there

> is no need to run off anywhere to find solitude...it is here

already.

>

> Namaste,

 

 

Thata just repeating Maharaj. And we all have read Maharaj. There is

no need to cite him again.

 

Stop that, Eric, and try to be a bit more genuine.

 

And it would be also nice to stop that " Namaste " nonsense.

 

Werner

 

 

>

> ~ Eric Putkonen

> http://www.awaken2life.org

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> > > -ac: is it better to live alone?

> > >

> > > - can I really live alone?

> >

> >

> > P: No one, ever, has lived alone.

> >

> > A hermit, living in a hut in a

> > deserted island has taken her

> > mind with her, and this mind was

> > fashioned by her culture, and is

> > a representation of her countrymen.

> >

> > Every time she thinks, it's they

> > who speak. It's the voices of

> > her parents, her lovers, her teachers,

> > her long gone friends and foes, her

> > culture that she hears with every

> > thought.

> >

> > One can live physically apart, but

> > never alone. The mind is a machine

> > which was programmed by others. It

> > can only repeat such programming.

> >

> > Attention and clarity can change

> > some of that software. A new

> > software can be downloaded which

> > will stop replaying the negative

> > incidents in one's pasts.

> >

> > So, leaving your wife will only

> > create different problems. It's

> > better if you view your relationship

> > with your wife as your most important

> > sadhana. Perfecting that relationship

> > will perfect your mind also. We can

> > never leave the mind behind, we can

> > only understand it better and change it

> > somewhat.

> > http://cerosoul.wordpress.com

> >

> > http://awakefiction.wordpress.com

> >

> >

> > Pete

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " Eric Putkonen " <eputkonen

wrote:

>

> The mind can fall silent and become still...and with 'no mind'

there

> is no chatter or company.

>

> Alone, in a way, is our nature...the Unborn...before the

conditioning

> and chatter.

>

> But this can be anywhere...even in the company of 'others'. So

there

> is no need to run off anywhere to find solitude...it is here

already.

 

No kidding.

 

> Namaste,

>

> ~ Eric Putkonen

> http://www.awaken2life.org

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" Thata just repeating Maharaj. And we all have read Maharaj. There is

no need to cite him again.

 

Stop that, Eric, and try to be a bit more genuine. "

 

If I were citing Maharaj, there would be quotation marks and a

reference to where it came from. This is my own direct realization

and experience.

 

Namaste,

 

~ Eric Putkonen

http://www.awaken2life.org

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Eric Putkonen " <eputkonen@>

> wrote:

> >

> > The mind can fall silent and become still...and with 'no mind'

> there

> > is no chatter or company.

> >

> > Alone, in a way, is our nature...the Unborn...before the

> conditioning

> > and chatter.

> >

> > But this can be anywhere...even in the company of 'others'. So

> there

> > is no need to run off anywhere to find solitude...it is here

> already.

> >

> > Namaste,

>

>

> Thata just repeating Maharaj. And we all have read Maharaj. There

is

> no need to cite him again.

>

> Stop that, Eric, and try to be a bit more genuine.

>

> And it would be also nice to stop that " Namaste " nonsense.

>

> Werner

>

>

> >

> > ~ Eric Putkonen

> > http://www.awaken2life.org

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > -ac: is it better to live alone?

> > > >

> > > > - can I really live alone?

> > >

> > >

> > > P: No one, ever, has lived alone.

> > >

> > > A hermit, living in a hut in a

> > > deserted island has taken her

> > > mind with her, and this mind was

> > > fashioned by her culture, and is

> > > a representation of her countrymen.

> > >

> > > Every time she thinks, it's they

> > > who speak. It's the voices of

> > > her parents, her lovers, her teachers,

> > > her long gone friends and foes, her

> > > culture that she hears with every

> > > thought.

> > >

> > > One can live physically apart, but

> > > never alone. The mind is a machine

> > > which was programmed by others. It

> > > can only repeat such programming.

> > >

> > > Attention and clarity can change

> > > some of that software. A new

> > > software can be downloaded which

> > > will stop replaying the negative

> > > incidents in one's pasts.

> > >

> > > So, leaving your wife will only

> > > create different problems. It's

> > > better if you view your relationship

> > > with your wife as your most important

> > > sadhana. Perfecting that relationship

> > > will perfect your mind also. We can

> > > never leave the mind behind, we can

> > > only understand it better and change it

> > > somewhat.

> > > http://cerosoul.wordpress.com

> > >

> > > http://awakefiction.wordpress.com

> > >

> > >

> > > Pete

> > >

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> > > -ac: is it better to live alone?

> > >

> > > - can I really live alone?

> >

> >

> > P: No one, ever, has lived alone.

>

>

> True, Pete, no man is an island.

>

> Question:

>

> W:Is there any difference between mind and consciousness or are these

> just different words for the same thing ?

 

P: Let's first understand that this is a technical

question that only can be important for neurologists

and psychologists. For seekers, it makes no difference.

It all depends what definitions one uses. I define mind

as those pathways of brain functioning that have

become habitual. Those pathways are used by the brain

whether we're conscious or not. Psychologists speak

of an subconscious mind. Consciousness is one of

the functions of the brain that when present is

characterized by purposeful actions, and the ability

to learn.

>

>W: Therefore one also could ask:

 

 

>

> Can consiousness ever be alone?

 

P: By that you mean empty of any content?

>

>W: Krishnamurti often stated: You have to be totally alone. And then he

> went on explaining the root of " alone " as " all-one " , all one.

>

> As long as thought is occupied with another person then one is

> isolated from everything else - no matter if thazt person is

> physically present or if it is just an innere dialog with someone at

> the moment not being present.

>

> If one is totally alone then one is connected to all and everything.

> It is the end of isolation.

>

> Werner

 

P: K probably meant by alone, can the mind be totally silent.

>

>

> >

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Nisargadatta , " Eric Putkonen " <eputkonen

wrote:

>

> The mind can fall silent and become still...and with 'no mind' there

> is no chatter or company.

>

> Alone, in a way, is our nature...the Unborn...before the conditioning

> and chatter.

>

> But this can be anywhere...even in the company of 'others'. So there

> is no need to run off anywhere to find solitude...it is here already.

>

> Namaste,

>

 

> P people are

> attracted to religion either because

> they want to have an assurance of

> personal survival after death, or because

> they seek the assurance that society is

> not the Monday morning jungle of dog eats dog,

> but the loving fellowship of Sunday worship.

>

> In order to give such assurance of survival,

> and of universal love, the existence of an all

> knowing, all loving creator is posited. Then,

> we are told, that although, our brains will

> die and rot, our memories, our thoughts, our

> consciousness will live on preserved somehow by

> our identification with such creator. That is the

> consolation to assuage mortality, and the end of

> individuality.

>

> Spiritual maturity only comes, when we realize

> the absolute we are, doesn't need life, knowledge,

> nor even awareness. Its perfection resides in an

> immutability beyond qualities, and virtues. Its

> perfection is even beyond existence itself. That

> is a hard thing to understand, and even harder

> to develop a taste for.

>

>

>

> ****One way to look at it is that the source of thought is not

thinking. The

> source of knowledge knows nothing. The source of time and space is

timeless

> and spaceless. This source is the nothingness we talk about and it's

not

> hidden at all. Focus your attention on that which is prior to

thought and you're

> 'staring' right at it, but there's nothing for the mind to see, so

it shrugs

> its neurons and goes back to watching the Playboy channel.

 

P: Most seekers start the search by seeking

knowledge. This is a necessary phase that can

go on for many years. One needs to know " what

one is not. " Curiously, detailed knowledge of

all the things we are not may be present, and

still the search continues to acquire a neat

conceptual formulation that encapsulates our

true nature. Few come to the realization that

seeking knowledge is like traveling east to

find the North Pole. Traveling south to find

the North Pole wastes a lot of time, but at

least, one would leave the South Pole behind

one day and head north on the other side.

But thinking our true nature can be found in

knowledge is going in circles forever without

ever heading north.

 

Why the brain can't notice and recognize

the eternal empty background as true self? The

brain is dazzled by it's own activity, and

identifies with it. It fears inactivity, not being.

Yet every night it craves sleep. Awareness cannot

be aware of its own absence as it happens, but it

can be aware, it was not aware for a while.

 

Thought is not continuous. Neither is any conscious

mental activity. They come in flashes, but the brain

ignores the gaps. If the brain tries to notice

the gaps rather than the flashes, an opening,

an opportunity is there. This is, perhaps, the

must useful piece of knowledge regarding liberation.

 

Little by little what the brain viewed as total

absence will become the omnipresent Presence.

 

 

> > http://cerosoul.wordpress.com

> >

> > http://awakefiction.wordpress.com

> >

> >

> > Pete

> >

>

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