Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 i knew somebody who had read many books about spain.....history, cultural, etc......great knowledge and understandings about spain..... one day....when he got to spain.....he started to teach spanish people everything he knew about spain.... .....only after a while....he understood that his intentions are of absurdity and useless.....due to where he got.....and " is " ... .....and finally....his words became less...... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > i knew somebody who had read many books about spain.....history, > cultural, etc......great knowledge and understandings about spain..... > > one day....when he got to spain.....he started to teach spanish people > everything he knew about spain.... > > ....only after a while....he understood that his intentions are of > absurdity and useless.....due to where he got.....and " is " ... > > ....and finally....his words became less...... > > > Marc > Beautiful. t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 1] I wonder if what`s being said here is the dark comment; EVERYTHING IS PRISON? That there is no refuge? 2] I wonder if what`s being said here is that no words should be spoken? that words shouldn`t be spoken to help give refuge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , Keith Karnaky <htiek0 wrote: > > > 1] I wonder if what`s being said here is the dark comment; > > EVERYTHING IS PRISON? > > That there is no refuge? > > 2] I wonder if what`s being said here is that no words should be spoken? > > that words shouldn`t be spoken to help give refuge? > You can get outside of the walls.......but it's still you......outside the walls. That's it.....That's all enlightenment is. Human experience in the Trackless-Unnamed.....outside the walls. That is what Wittenstien refused to tell his students as he was dying. He said that he wanted them to discover it for themselves. I think he was wrong. If you relate to " Its all prison " .....if that phrase makes you dizzy and nauseous.........now is the time to take the Ultimate Medicine. .........step up to the edge...take off your clothes.......and leap into the Great Unknown-Unknowable. What have you got to loose? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , Keith Karnaky <htiek0 wrote: > > > 1] I wonder if what`s being said here is the dark comment; > > EVERYTHING IS PRISON? > > That there is no refuge? your imaginary identification with your thinking body, mind and intellect is your self-made prison.....called ego-mind.... there is no choice about identification.....until this your beloved ego....is melting....melting...and melting away.....up to nothingness...... real Self is formless, changless, infinite.....so, realy the opposite of whatever (imaginary) prison Sure....your imaginary " ego " will stay.....but differently..... " you " will percieve ego....just like you percieve everything else....... .....as reflections.....of the real Self..... .....like on the water....trees are reflecting.....appearently real only...... ..... ....remain close to the " water " .....to the ocean....that's all.... > > 2] I wonder if what`s being said here is that no words should be spoken? > > that words shouldn`t be spoken to help give refuge? ohh....words can still be spoken......if one know to whom one is speaking....for real..... if one know.....that there is no meaning behind any words.....of " whoever " ..... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Keith Karnaky <htiek0@> wrote: > > > > > > 1] I wonder if what`s being said here is the dark comment; > > > > EVERYTHING IS PRISON? > > > > That there is no refuge? > > > > 2] I wonder if what`s being said here is that no words should be > spoken? > > > > that words shouldn`t be spoken to help give refuge? > > > > > > > You can get outside of the walls.......but it's still you......outside > the walls. > > > > That's it.....That's all enlightenment is. > > Human experience in the Trackless-Unnamed.....outside the walls. > > That is what Wittenstien refused to tell his students as he was dying. > > He said that he wanted them to discover it for themselves. > > I think he was wrong. > > > > If you relate to " Its all prison " .....if that phrase makes you dizzy > and nauseous.........now is the time to take the Ultimate Medicine. > > ........step up to the edge...take off your clothes.......and leap > into the Great Unknown-Unknowable. > > > > What have you got to loose? > > > > > > toombaru so how is (your) nothingness doing?..... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Keith Karnaky <htiek0@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > 1] I wonder if what`s being said here is the dark comment; > > > > > > EVERYTHING IS PRISON? > > > > > > That there is no refuge? > > > > > > 2] I wonder if what`s being said here is that no words should be > > spoken? > > > > > > that words shouldn`t be spoken to help give refuge? > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can get outside of the walls.......but it's still > you......outside > > the walls. > > > > > > > > That's it.....That's all enlightenment is. > > > > Human experience in the Trackless-Unnamed.....outside the walls. > > > > That is what Wittenstien refused to tell his students as he was > dying. > > > > He said that he wanted them to discover it for themselves. > > > > I think he was wrong. > > > > > > > > If you relate to " Its all prison " .....if that phrase makes you dizzy > > and nauseous.........now is the time to take the Ultimate Medicine. > > > > ........step up to the edge...take off your clothes.......and leap > > into the Great Unknown-Unknowable. > > > > > > > > What have you got to loose? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > so how is (your) nothingness doing?..... > > > Marc > > > It predominates the perceptual reality. Everything seems to float and play within its grasp. It is most pleasant indeed. t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Keith Karnaky <htiek0@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1] I wonder if what`s being said here is the dark comment; > > > > > > > > EVERYTHING IS PRISON? > > > > > > > > That there is no refuge? > > > > > > > > 2] I wonder if what`s being said here is that no words should be > > > spoken? > > > > > > > > that words shouldn`t be spoken to help give refuge? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can get outside of the walls.......but it's still > > you......outside > > > the walls. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's it.....That's all enlightenment is. > > > > > > Human experience in the Trackless-Unnamed.....outside the walls. > > > > > > That is what Wittenstien refused to tell his students as he was > > dying. > > > > > > He said that he wanted them to discover it for themselves. > > > > > > I think he was wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you relate to " Its all prison " .....if that phrase makes you dizzy > > > and nauseous.........now is the time to take the Ultimate Medicine. > > > > > > ........step up to the edge...take off your clothes.......and leap > > > into the Great Unknown-Unknowable. > > > > > > > > > > > > What have you got to loose? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > so how is (your) nothingness doing?..... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > It predominates the perceptual reality. > > Everything seems to float and play within its grasp. > > It is most pleasant indeed. > > > t. nice to hear.... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Keith Karnaky <htiek0@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1] I wonder if what`s being said here is the dark comment; > > > > > > > > > > EVERYTHING IS PRISON? > > > > > > > > > > That there is no refuge? > > > > > > > > > > 2] I wonder if what`s being said here is that no words > should be > > > > spoken? > > > > > > > > > > that words shouldn`t be spoken to help give refuge? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can get outside of the walls.......but it's still > > > you......outside > > > > the walls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's it.....That's all enlightenment is. > > > > > > > > Human experience in the Trackless-Unnamed.....outside the walls. > > > > > > > > That is what Wittenstien refused to tell his students as he was > > > dying. > > > > > > > > He said that he wanted them to discover it for themselves. > > > > > > > > I think he was wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you relate to " Its all prison " .....if that phrase makes you > dizzy > > > > and nauseous.........now is the time to take the Ultimate > Medicine. > > > > > > > > ........step up to the edge...take off your clothes.......and > leap > > > > into the Great Unknown-Unknowable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What have you got to loose? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > so how is (your) nothingness doing?..... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It predominates the perceptual reality. > > > > Everything seems to float and play within its grasp. > > > > It is most pleasant indeed. > > > > > > t. > > > nice to hear.... > > Marc > > > Sound familiar? t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Keith Karnaky <htiek0@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1] I wonder if what`s being said here is the dark comment; > > > > > > > > > > > > EVERYTHING IS PRISON? > > > > > > > > > > > > That there is no refuge? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2] I wonder if what`s being said here is that no words > > should be > > > > > spoken? > > > > > > > > > > > > that words shouldn`t be spoken to help give refuge? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can get outside of the walls.......but it's still > > > > you......outside > > > > > the walls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's it.....That's all enlightenment is. > > > > > > > > > > Human experience in the Trackless-Unnamed.....outside the walls. > > > > > > > > > > That is what Wittenstien refused to tell his students as he was > > > > dying. > > > > > > > > > > He said that he wanted them to discover it for themselves. > > > > > > > > > > I think he was wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you relate to " Its all prison " .....if that phrase makes you > > dizzy > > > > > and nauseous.........now is the time to take the Ultimate > > Medicine. > > > > > > > > > > ........step up to the edge...take off your clothes.......and > > leap > > > > > into the Great Unknown-Unknowable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What have you got to loose? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so how is (your) nothingness doing?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It predominates the perceptual reality. > > > > > > Everything seems to float and play within its grasp. > > > > > > It is most pleasant indeed. > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > nice to hear.... > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Sound familiar? > > > > t. yes.....kind of.... ..... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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