Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Conceptual mind is not only in a box.....it IS the box. It cannot see or experience anything unless it converts the raw perceptual data into a concept. As it floats within the Current......the Light-of-Awareness penetrates the box.....but must be converted into post-it that will harmonize with the accumulation of mnemonic debris that makes up the sense of separation: and in that naming.....it is pulled into the box and the Light is lost. The real meaning of the crucifixion is the intentional putting to death of the imaginary gods....and the resulting realization that there is nothing higher or lower than anything else inside the box or out. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > Conceptual mind is not only in a box.....it IS the box. > > It cannot see or experience anything unless it converts the raw > perceptual data into a concept. > > As it floats within the Current......the > Light-of-Awareness penetrates the box.....but must be converted into > post-it that will harmonize with the accumulation of mnemonic debris > that makes up the sense of separation: and in that naming.....it is > pulled into the box and the Light is lost. > > The real meaning of the crucifixion is the intentional putting to > death of the imaginary gods....and the resulting realization that > there is nothing higher or lower than anything else inside the box or out. > > > > toombaru > Perhaps the real meaning of crucifixion is that there is nothing beyond this moment. Nor is there any existential reality before this moment. The only truth is of the body's: that is nailed to the cross of duality for life. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Conceptual mind is not only in a box.....it IS the box. > > > > It cannot see or experience anything unless it converts the raw > > perceptual data into a concept. > > > > As it floats within the Current......the > > Light-of-Awareness penetrates the box.....but must be converted into > > post-it that will harmonize with the accumulation of mnemonic debris > > that makes up the sense of separation: and in that naming.....it is > > pulled into the box and the Light is lost. > > > > The real meaning of the crucifixion is the intentional putting to > > death of the imaginary gods....and the resulting realization that > > there is nothing higher or lower than anything else inside the box > or out. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > Perhaps the real meaning of crucifixion is that there is nothing > beyond this moment. Nor is there any existential reality before this > moment. > > The only truth is of the body's: that is nailed to the cross of > duality for life. > > ~A > Only the conceptual mind and its phantom are nailed to an imaginary cross. t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conceptual mind is not only in a box.....it IS the box. > > > > > > It cannot see or experience anything unless it converts the raw > > > perceptual data into a concept. > > > > > > As it floats within the Current......the > > > Light-of-Awareness penetrates the box.....but must be converted into > > > post-it that will harmonize with the accumulation of mnemonic debris > > > that makes up the sense of separation: and in that naming.....it is > > > pulled into the box and the Light is lost. > > > > > > The real meaning of the crucifixion is the intentional putting to > > > death of the imaginary gods....and the resulting realization that > > > there is nothing higher or lower than anything else inside the box > > or out. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the real meaning of crucifixion is that there is nothing > > beyond this moment. Nor is there any existential reality before this > > moment. > > > > The only truth is of the body's: that is nailed to the cross of > > duality for life. > > > > ~A > > > > > > Only the conceptual mind and its phantom are nailed to an imaginary cross. > > > t. > No, Toomie. The body IS the cross.... Duality. All of it takes place in its imagination. ~a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > Conceptual mind is not only in a box.....it IS the box. > > It cannot see or experience anything unless it converts the raw > perceptual data into a concept. > > As it floats within the Current......the > Light-of-Awareness penetrates the box.....but must be converted into > post-it that will harmonize with the accumulation of mnemonic debris > that makes up the sense of separation: and in that naming.....it is > pulled into the box and the Light is lost. > > The real meaning of the crucifixion is the intentional putting to > death of the imaginary gods....and the resulting realization that > there is nothing higher or lower than anything else inside the box or out. > > > > toombaru nice concept.... coming from....out of the " box " ?.... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conceptual mind is not only in a box.....it IS the box. > > > > > > > > It cannot see or experience anything unless it converts the raw > > > > perceptual data into a concept. > > > > > > > > As it floats within the Current......the > > > > Light-of-Awareness penetrates the box.....but must be converted > into > > > > post-it that will harmonize with the accumulation of mnemonic > debris > > > > that makes up the sense of separation: and in that > naming.....it is > > > > pulled into the box and the Light is lost. > > > > > > > > The real meaning of the crucifixion is the intentional putting > to > > > > death of the imaginary gods....and the resulting realization > that > > > > there is nothing higher or lower than anything else inside the > box > > > or out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the real meaning of crucifixion is that there is nothing > > > beyond this moment. Nor is there any existential reality before > this > > > moment. > > > > > > The only truth is of the body's: that is nailed to the cross of > > > duality for life. > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > Only the conceptual mind and its phantom are nailed to an imaginary > cross. > > > > > > t. > > > > > No, Toomie. The body IS the cross.... Duality. All of it takes > place in its imagination. > > > > ~a. there is no body..... nobody, ever, has been any " body " for real... Duality, due so....to an imaginary identification with a " body " .... Nothing realy takes place in any imagination....except the imaginary identification with a " body " .... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Conceptual mind is not only in a box.....it IS the box. > > > > It cannot see or experience anything unless it converts the raw > > perceptual data into a concept. > > > > As it floats within the Current......the > > Light-of-Awareness penetrates the box.....but must be converted into > > post-it that will harmonize with the accumulation of mnemonic debris > > that makes up the sense of separation: and in that naming.....it is > > pulled into the box and the Light is lost. > > > > The real meaning of the crucifixion is the intentional putting to > > death of the imaginary gods....and the resulting realization that > > there is nothing higher or lower than anything else inside the box > or out. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > nice concept.... > > coming from....out of the " box " ?.... > > > Marc > > > It's all box. If there were anything beyond the box.....the box could never experience it. t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conceptual mind is not only in a box.....it IS the box. > > > > > > It cannot see or experience anything unless it converts the raw > > > perceptual data into a concept. > > > > > > As it floats within the Current......the > > > Light-of-Awareness penetrates the box.....but must be converted into > > > post-it that will harmonize with the accumulation of mnemonic debris > > > that makes up the sense of separation: and in that naming.....it is > > > pulled into the box and the Light is lost. > > > > > > The real meaning of the crucifixion is the intentional putting to > > > death of the imaginary gods....and the resulting realization that > > > there is nothing higher or lower than anything else inside the box > > or out. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > nice concept.... > > > > coming from....out of the " box " ?.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > It's all box. > > > If there were anything beyond the box.....the box could never > experience it. > > > > t. there is no " beyond the box " .....because there simple is no box at all Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conceptual mind is not only in a box.....it IS the box. > > > > > > > > It cannot see or experience anything unless it converts the raw > > > > perceptual data into a concept. > > > > > > > > As it floats within the Current......the > > > > Light-of-Awareness penetrates the box.....but must be converted > into > > > > post-it that will harmonize with the accumulation of mnemonic > debris > > > > that makes up the sense of separation: and in that > naming.....it is > > > > pulled into the box and the Light is lost. > > > > > > > > The real meaning of the crucifixion is the intentional putting > to > > > > death of the imaginary gods....and the resulting realization > that > > > > there is nothing higher or lower than anything else inside the > box > > > or out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > nice concept.... > > > > > > coming from....out of the " box " ?.... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's all box. > > > > > > If there were anything beyond the box.....the box could never > > experience it. > > > > > > > > t. > > > there is no " beyond the box " .....because there simple is no box at all > > > Marc > > > We've come full circle. :-) t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 WHEN GOD.....THE ORIGINAL FIRST CREATOR DIES..... then the FIRST ORIGINAL GAME ...... [GODS DREAM] ....[the world]....can`t ever have been... sooooooo WHAT TO WORRY.....you`re not even here...as well as the world NON-DUALNisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conceptual mind is not only in a box.....it IS the box. > > > > > > > > > > It cannot see or experience anything unless it converts the raw > > > > > perceptual data into a concept. > > > > > > > > > > As it floats within the Current......the > > > > > Light-of-Awareness penetrates the box.....but must be converted > > into > > > > > post-it that will harmonize with the accumulation of mnemonic > > debris > > > > > that makes up the sense of separation: and in that > > naming.....it is > > > > > pulled into the box and the Light is lost. > > > > > > > > > > The real meaning of the crucifixion is the intentional putting > > to > > > > > death of the imaginary gods....and the resulting realization > > that > > > > > there is nothing higher or lower than anything else inside the > > box > > > > or out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > nice concept.... > > > > > > > > coming from....out of the " box " ?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's all box. > > > > > > > > > If there were anything beyond the box.....the box could never > > > experience it. > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > there is no " beyond the box " .....because there simple is no box at all > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > We've come full circle. > > :-) > > > t. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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