Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Your self-image is your distorting lens, but instead of going to the eye doctor, you try to protect the lens, make it thicker, denser. If you could only take the damn thing off, and see without it, but I know you can't. I have not been able to discard mine, either. It has grown thinner, less distorting, I don't protect it any more, but it its there, coloring, somehow, everything I see. Why? I'm a herd animal. I need the company, the help of the herd to survive. My self-image is the signal I send to the herd that I'm one of them, that I deserve their protection and help. Do I need a self-image to belong? Not really, I can't help acting human, and being recognized as one. It's more that I need to be liked, and I, most of all, need to like myself. So, we are always tinkering with the image, defending it from attack. Relax, you don't have one image, everyone who knows you sees a different one. You can't control the images they have of you, you can not even control what you think of yourself. Relax, the herd can't leave you behind, you can't leave it behind either. You're the herd, and at the same time, you're no one. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Your self-image is your distorting lens, > but instead of going to the eye doctor, > you try to protect the lens, make it thicker, > denser. If you could only take the damn > thing off, and see without it, but I know you > can't. I have not been able to discard mine, > either. It has grown thinner, less distorting, > I don't protect it any more, but it its there, > coloring, somehow, everything I see. > > Why? I'm a herd animal. I need the company, > the help of the herd to survive. My self-image > is the signal I send to the herd that I'm one of > them, that I deserve their protection and help. > > Do I need a self-image to belong? Not really, > I can't help acting human, and being recognized > as one. It's more that I need to be liked, and > I, most of all, need to like myself. So, we > are always tinkering with the image, defending > it from attack. Relax, you don't have one > image, everyone who knows you sees a different > one. > > You can't control the images they have of you, > you can not even control what you think of > yourself. Relax, the herd can't leave you > behind, you can't leave it behind either. > You're the herd, and at the same time, you're > no one. > > Pete > You are not the herd.......Nor are you no one. You are not the presence......You are not the absence. You are the absence of the absence......and the presence of presence. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Your self-image is your distorting lens, > but instead of going to the eye doctor, > you try to protect the lens, make it thicker, > denser. If you could only take the damn > thing off, and see without it, but I know you > can't. I have not been able to discard mine, > either. It has grown thinner, less distorting, > I don't protect it any more, but it its there, > coloring, somehow, everything I see. > > Why? I'm a herd animal. I need the company, > the help of the herd to survive. My self-image > is the signal I send to the herd that I'm one of > them, that I deserve their protection and help. > > Do I need a self-image to belong? Not really, > I can't help acting human, and being recognized > as one. It's more that I need to be liked, and > I, most of all, need to like myself. So, we > are always tinkering with the image, defending > it from attack. Relax, you don't have one > image, everyone who knows you sees a different > one. > > You can't control the images they have of you, > you can not even control what you think of > yourself. Relax, the herd can't leave you > behind, you can't leave it behind either. > You're the herd, and at the same time, you're > no one. > > Pete > Great Pete ! I really like what you wrote and I feel repsect for its honesty. And yes,we are no one, but we can't see it and realize it. The self-image as a means for survival is to powerful. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > Your self-image is your distorting lens, > > but instead of going to the eye doctor, > > you try to protect the lens, make it thicker, > > denser. If you could only take the damn > > thing off, and see without it, but I know you > > can't. I have not been able to discard mine, > > either. It has grown thinner, less distorting, > > I don't protect it any more, but it its there, > > coloring, somehow, everything I see. > > > > Why? I'm a herd animal. I need the company, > > the help of the herd to survive. My self-image > > is the signal I send to the herd that I'm one of > > them, that I deserve their protection and help. > > > > Do I need a self-image to belong? Not really, > > I can't help acting human, and being recognized > > as one. It's more that I need to be liked, and > > I, most of all, need to like myself. So, we > > are always tinkering with the image, defending > > it from attack. Relax, you don't have one > > image, everyone who knows you sees a different > > one. > > > > You can't control the images they have of you, > > you can not even control what you think of > > yourself. Relax, the herd can't leave you > > behind, you can't leave it behind either. > > You're the herd, and at the same time, you're > > no one. > > > > Pete > > > > > Great Pete ! > > I really like what you wrote and I feel repsect for its honesty. > > And yes,we are no one, but we can't see it and realize it. The > self-image as a means for survival is to powerful. > > Werner P: You're like a twin brother to me. Reassuring to see you galloping next to me toward the abysm of death. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > Your self-image is your distorting lens, > > > but instead of going to the eye doctor, > > > you try to protect the lens, make it thicker, > > > denser. If you could only take the damn > > > thing off, and see without it, but I know you > > > can't. I have not been able to discard mine, > > > either. It has grown thinner, less distorting, > > > I don't protect it any more, but it its there, > > > coloring, somehow, everything I see. > > > > > > Why? I'm a herd animal. I need the company, > > > the help of the herd to survive. My self-image > > > is the signal I send to the herd that I'm one of > > > them, that I deserve their protection and help. > > > > > > Do I need a self-image to belong? Not really, > > > I can't help acting human, and being recognized > > > as one. It's more that I need to be liked, and > > > I, most of all, need to like myself. So, we > > > are always tinkering with the image, defending > > > it from attack. Relax, you don't have one > > > image, everyone who knows you sees a different > > > one. > > > > > > You can't control the images they have of you, > > > you can not even control what you think of > > > yourself. Relax, the herd can't leave you > > > behind, you can't leave it behind either. > > > You're the herd, and at the same time, you're > > > no one. > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > Great Pete ! > > > > I really like what you wrote and I feel repsect for its honesty. > > > > And yes,we are no one, but we can't see it and realize it. The > > self-image as a means for survival is to powerful. > > > > Werner > > P: You're like a twin brother to me. > Reassuring to see you galloping next > to me toward the abysm of death. > > > Sumpingotta be alive to die. :0 toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > Your self-image is your distorting lens, > > but instead of going to the eye doctor, > > you try to protect the lens, make it thicker, > > denser. If you could only take the damn > > thing off, and see without it, but I know you > > can't. I have not been able to discard mine, > > either. It has grown thinner, less distorting, > > I don't protect it any more, but it its there, > > coloring, somehow, everything I see. > > > > Why? I'm a herd animal. I need the company, > > the help of the herd to survive. My self-image > > is the signal I send to the herd that I'm one of > > them, that I deserve their protection and help. > > > > Do I need a self-image to belong? Not really, > > I can't help acting human, and being recognized > > as one. It's more that I need to be liked, and > > I, most of all, need to like myself. So, we > > are always tinkering with the image, defending > > it from attack. Relax, you don't have one > > image, everyone who knows you sees a different > > one. > > > > You can't control the images they have of you, > > you can not even control what you think of > > yourself. Relax, the herd can't leave you > > behind, you can't leave it behind either. > > You're the herd, and at the same time, you're > > no one. > > > > Pete > > > > > > You are not the herd.......Nor are you no one. > > You are not the presence......You are not the absence. > > You are the absence of the absence......and the presence of presence. > > > > toombaru > And I love you both for your *second* sight. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > Your self-image is your distorting lens, > > > but instead of going to the eye doctor, > > > you try to protect the lens, make it thicker, > > > denser. If you could only take the damn > > > thing off, and see without it, but I know you > > > can't. I have not been able to discard mine, > > > either. It has grown thinner, less distorting, > > > I don't protect it any more, but it its there, > > > coloring, somehow, everything I see. > > > > > > Why? I'm a herd animal. I need the company, > > > the help of the herd to survive. My self-image > > > is the signal I send to the herd that I'm one of > > > them, that I deserve their protection and help. > > > > > > Do I need a self-image to belong? Not really, > > > I can't help acting human, and being recognized > > > as one. It's more that I need to be liked, and > > > I, most of all, need to like myself. So, we > > > are always tinkering with the image, defending > > > it from attack. Relax, you don't have one > > > image, everyone who knows you sees a different > > > one. > > > > > > You can't control the images they have of you, > > > you can not even control what you think of > > > yourself. Relax, the herd can't leave you > > > behind, you can't leave it behind either. > > > You're the herd, and at the same time, you're > > > no one. > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > > > You are not the herd.......Nor are you no one. > > > > You are not the presence......You are not the absence. > > > > You are the absence of the absence......and the presence of presence. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > And I love you both for your *second* sight. > > ~A > u 2 Werner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 cerosoul wrote: > Your self-image is your distorting lens, > but instead of going to the eye doctor, > you try to protect the lens, make it thicker, > denser. If you could only take the damn > thing off, and see without it, but I know you > can't. I have not been able to discard mine, > either. It has grown thinner, less distorting, > I don't protect it any more, but it its there, > coloring, somehow, everything I see. > > Why? I'm a herd animal. I need the company, > the help of the herd to survive. My self-image > is the signal I send to the herd that I'm one of > them, that I deserve their protection and help. > > Do I need a self-image to belong? Not really, > I can't help acting human, and being recognized > as one. It's more that I need to be liked, and > I, most of all, need to like myself. So, we > are always tinkering with the image, defending > it from attack. Relax, you don't have one > image, everyone who knows you sees a different > one. > > You can't control the images they have of you, > you can not even control what you think of > yourself. Relax, the herd can't leave you > behind, you can't leave it behind either. > You're the herd, and at the same time, you're > no one. > > Pete > > > --- > > Well, you can't help being made out of meat, no amount of enlightened transcendence is going to change that, it is the physical basis of the reality as human condition. tyga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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