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ego's, sometimes, come to the conclusion that they are That...big big

appearing world

 

liberated ones, sometimes, come to the conclusion and are feeling

that it don't make sense to identify with an illusory ego and

illusory world

 

.....

 

 

there is no ego....

 

there is no world....

 

except within illusory ego-bubbles

 

.....

 

 

Marc

 

 

Ps: " you " are That.....formless, changeless and infinite Self.....

 

nothing else for real

 

see It!

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dennis_travis33 wrote:

> ego's, sometimes, come to the conclusion that they are That...big big

> appearing world

>

> liberated ones, sometimes, come to the conclusion and are feeling

> that it don't make sense to identify with an illusory ego and

> illusory world

>

> ....

>

>

> there is no ego....

>

> there is no world....

>

> except within illusory ego-bubbles

>

> ....

>

>

> Marc

>

>

> Ps: " you " are That.....formless, changeless and infinite Self.....

>

> nothing else for real

>

> see It!

>

---

>

>

Well, actually, there is no ego simply because the ego is a concept

which was created by Sigmund Freud. There is no ego which is located

within the body nor the human psyche, " ego " was a term used to represent

a series of ideas that pointed at certain characteristics recognisable

within the human personality.* There is no such thing as a discrete ego.*

 

So taken in context, the ego IS literally illusory.

 

tyga

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Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga wrote:

>

> dennis_travis33 wrote:

> > ego's, sometimes, come to the conclusion that they are That...big

big

> > appearing world

> >

> > liberated ones, sometimes, come to the conclusion and are feeling

> > that it don't make sense to identify with an illusory ego and

> > illusory world

> >

> > ....

> >

> >

> > there is no ego....

> >

> > there is no world....

> >

> > except within illusory ego-bubbles

> >

> > ....

> >

> >

> > Marc

> >

> >

> > Ps: " you " are That.....formless, changeless and infinite Self.....

> >

> > nothing else for real

> >

> > see It!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

> Well, actually, there is no ego simply because the ego is a concept

> which was created by Sigmund Freud. There is no ego which is

located

> within the body nor the human psyche, " ego " was a term used to

represent

> a series of ideas that pointed at certain characteristics

recognisable

> within the human personality.* There is no such thing as a discrete

ego.*

>

> So taken in context, the ego IS literally illusory.

>

> tyga

 

 

you can give " ego " whatever other names.....or ignore it....

 

this don't let " you " loose whatever illusions

 

Marc

>

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga@> wrote:

> >

> > dennis_travis33 wrote:

> > > ego's, sometimes, come to the conclusion that they are

That...big

> big

> > > appearing world

> > >

> > > liberated ones, sometimes, come to the conclusion and are

feeling

> > > that it don't make sense to identify with an illusory ego and

> > > illusory world

> > >

> > > ....

> > >

> > >

> > > there is no ego....

> > >

> > > there is no world....

> > >

> > > except within illusory ego-bubbles

> > >

> > > ....

> > >

> > >

> > > Marc

> > >

> > >

> > > Ps: " you " are That.....formless, changeless and infinite

Self.....

> > >

> > > nothing else for real

> > >

> > > see It!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > >

> > >

> > Well, actually, there is no ego simply because the ego is a

concept

> > which was created by Sigmund Freud. There is no ego which is

> located

> > within the body nor the human psyche, " ego " was a term used to

> represent

> > a series of ideas that pointed at certain characteristics

> recognisable

> > within the human personality.* There is no such thing as a

discrete

> ego.*

> >

> > So taken in context, the ego IS literally illusory.

> >

> > tyga

>

>

> you can give " ego " whatever other names.....or ignore it....

>

> this don't let " you " loose whatever illusions

>

> Marc

> >

>

 

 

Ps: your theory & concept about " ego " is a nice one for whatever

criminals and ignorant fools.....it give them the perfect right to

behave as stupid as they wish too......in having " no ego " ....etc....

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dennis_travis33 wrote:

>>

>> you can give " ego " whatever other names.....or ignore it....

>>

>> this don't let " you " loose whatever illusions

>>

>> Marc

>>

>

>

> Ps: your theory & concept about " ego " is a nice one for whatever

> criminals and ignorant fools.....it give them the perfect right to

> behave as stupid as they wish too......in having " no ego " ....etc....

>

>

> ---

>

>

Could you please clarify what you mean? If I understand you correctly,

it would appear as though you have no idea what " ego " means nor its context.

 

I suggest you do some research on " ego " before you start assuming you

already are an expert. The " ego " is an aspect of the human personality,

along with the super-ego and the id, which are all terms or symbolisms

invented by the late Sigmund Freud to symbolise aspects of his theories

concerning the human psyche.

 

 

 

tyga

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Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga wrote:

>

> dennis_travis33 wrote:

> >>

> >> you can give " ego " whatever other names.....or ignore it....

> >>

> >> this don't let " you " loose whatever illusions

> >>

> >> Marc

> >>

> >

> >

> > Ps: your theory & concept about " ego " is a nice one for whatever

> > criminals and ignorant fools.....it give them the perfect right

to

> > behave as stupid as they wish too......in having " no

ego " ....etc....

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

> Could you please clarify what you mean? If I understand you

correctly,

> it would appear as though you have no idea what " ego " means nor its

context.

>

> I suggest you do some research on " ego " before you start assuming

you

> already are an expert. The " ego " is an aspect of the human

personality,

> along with the super-ego and the id, which are all terms or

symbolisms

> invented by the late Sigmund Freud to symbolise aspects of his

theories

> concerning the human psyche.

>

>

>

> tyga

 

 

do you realy believe that the only one who talk about ego is (has

been) Sigmund Freud?....

 

there are many concepts and theories about " ego " going around....

 

Please....nobody in here is an " expert " of whatever!

 

I hope for " you " .....for your ego.....that you don't take yourself

for an expert.....

 

 

Marc

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga@> wrote:

> >

> > dennis_travis33 wrote:

> > >>

> > >> you can give " ego " whatever other names.....or ignore it....

> > >>

> > >> this don't let " you " loose whatever illusions

> > >>

> > >> Marc

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > > Ps: your theory & concept about " ego " is a nice one for whatever

> > > criminals and ignorant fools.....it give them the perfect right

> to

> > > behave as stupid as they wish too......in having " no

> ego " ....etc....

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > >

> > >

> > Could you please clarify what you mean? If I understand you

> correctly,

> > it would appear as though you have no idea what " ego " means nor

its

> context.

> >

> > I suggest you do some research on " ego " before you start assuming

> you

> > already are an expert. The " ego " is an aspect of the human

> personality,

> > along with the super-ego and the id, which are all terms or

> symbolisms

> > invented by the late Sigmund Freud to symbolise aspects of his

> theories

> > concerning the human psyche.

> >

> >

> >

> > tyga

>

>

> do you realy believe that the only one who talk about ego is (has

> been) Sigmund Freud?....

>

> there are many concepts and theories about " ego " going around....

>

> Please....nobody in here is an " expert " of whatever!

>

> I hope for " you " .....for your ego.....that you don't take yourself

> for an expert.....

>

>

> Marc

 

 

Ps: i remind you that this is a spiritual group.....

 

and i don't think that Freud give the same meaning to " ego " ...than

spiritual people

>

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dennis_travis33 wrote:

> > > >>

> > > >> you can give " ego " whatever other names.....or ignore it....

> > > >>

> > > >> this don't let " you " loose whatever illusions

> > > >>

> > > >> Marc

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ps: your theory & concept about " ego " is a nice one for whatever

> > > > criminals and ignorant fools.....it give them the perfect right

> > to

> > > > behave as stupid as they wish too......in having " no

> > ego " ....etc....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > >

> > > >

> > > Could you please clarify what you mean? If I understand you

> > correctly,

> > > it would appear as though you have no idea what " ego " means nor

> its

> > context.

> > >

> > > I suggest you do some research on " ego " before you start assuming

> > you

> > > already are an expert. The " ego " is an aspect of the human

> > personality,

> > > along with the super-ego and the id, which are all terms or

> > symbolisms

> > > invented by the late Sigmund Freud to symbolise aspects of his

> > theories

> > > concerning the human psyche.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > tyga

> >

> >

> > do you realy believe that the only one who talk about ego is (has

> > been) Sigmund Freud?....

> >

> > there are many concepts and theories about " ego " going around....

> >

> > Please....nobody in here is an " expert " of whatever!

> >

> > I hope for " you " .....for your ego.....that you don't take yourself

> > for an expert.....

> >

> >

> > Marc

>

>

> Ps: i remind you that this is a spiritual group.....

>

> and i don't think that Freud give the same meaning to " ego " ...than

> spiritual people

> >

>

 

 

" Spiritual group " ? Is that the same as a parasitic group? A group of

words coming together to form a plot?

 

And yes I understand what you mean, Marc. But isn't the divisiveness

of labeling one " egoic' and the *spiritual* the exact same thing,

albeit, more refined?

 

It's a closed loop system, imo.

 

Love.

 

~A

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dennis_travis33 wrote:

>>

>> do you realy believe that the only one who talk about ego is (has

>> been) Sigmund Freud?....

>>

 

I doesn't matter what I believe, the simple fact is, Freud invented the

term " ego " , so that is the context in which I use and understand it.

 

 

>> there are many concepts and theories about " ego " going around....

>>

 

Yes, that is true and the vast majority of those concepts are a

misunderstanding. For a proper understanding of what Freud meant by the

term ego, you need to go and research his work.

 

 

>> Please....nobody in here is an " expert " of whatever!

>>

 

I don't know, surely there could be people in here that might be experts

on one thing or another?

 

 

>> I hope for " you " .....for your ego.....that you don't take yourself

>> for an expert.....

>>

>>

>> Marc

>>

>

>

 

What ego? Haven't we already determined that the ego is an illusion?

 

No, I certainly do not consider myself an expert on the subject of

psychotherapy (were the term ego comes from), however my partner is

somewhat of an expert on psychotherapy, having a degree in psychology.

 

> Ps: i remind you that this is a spiritual group.....

>

 

I wonder if Sri Nis would have described himself as " spiritual'?

> and i don't think that Freud give the same meaning to " ego " ...than

> spiritual people

>

 

No I doubt whether they are the same, considering that Freud coined the

term and spiritualists have perverted it.

 

For example, in psychotherapy there is no such term as " egoic " , the

correct term is " egoistic " but most so called spiritualist who having no

understanding of any of Freud's work, have no idea what they are talking

about.

 

 

 

tyga

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Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dennis_travis33 wrote:

> > > > >>

> > > > >> you can give " ego " whatever other names.....or ignore

it....

> > > > >>

> > > > >> this don't let " you " loose whatever illusions

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Marc

> > > > >>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Ps: your theory & concept about " ego " is a nice one for

whatever

> > > > > criminals and ignorant fools.....it give them the perfect

right

> > > to

> > > > > behave as stupid as they wish too......in having " no

> > > ego " ....etc....

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ---

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > Could you please clarify what you mean? If I understand you

> > > correctly,

> > > > it would appear as though you have no idea what " ego " means

nor

> > its

> > > context.

> > > >

> > > > I suggest you do some research on " ego " before you start

assuming

> > > you

> > > > already are an expert. The " ego " is an aspect of the human

> > > personality,

> > > > along with the super-ego and the id, which are all terms or

> > > symbolisms

> > > > invented by the late Sigmund Freud to symbolise aspects of

his

> > > theories

> > > > concerning the human psyche.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > tyga

> > >

> > >

> > > do you realy believe that the only one who talk about ego is

(has

> > > been) Sigmund Freud?....

> > >

> > > there are many concepts and theories about " ego " going

around....

> > >

> > > Please....nobody in here is an " expert " of whatever!

> > >

> > > I hope for " you " .....for your ego.....that you don't take

yourself

> > > for an expert.....

> > >

> > >

> > > Marc

> >

> >

> > Ps: i remind you that this is a spiritual group.....

> >

> > and i don't think that Freud give the same meaning

to " ego " ...than

> > spiritual people

> > >

> >

>

>

> " Spiritual group " ? Is that the same as a parasitic group? A group

of

> words coming together to form a plot?

>

> And yes I understand what you mean, Marc. But isn't the

divisiveness

> of labeling one " egoic' and the *spiritual* the exact same thing,

> albeit, more refined?

>

> It's a closed loop system, imo.

>

> Love.

>

> ~A

>

 

you didn't know that this group is of " spiritual " categorie?....:)

 

never too late to think about, yes.....up to imaginary " you " ....

 

There are different " definitions " about ego......the definition some

very intelligent people once gave to " ego " is a different one than

some spiritual people give to it.

 

Some may earn some money in relation to whatever definitions from

whatever FAMOUS brains, trying to heal confused minds.....but that's

of their own imaginary ego business.

 

Nobody cares about such " practise " in here....for real.

 

 

Marc

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Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga wrote:

>

> dennis_travis33 wrote:

> >>

> >> do you realy believe that the only one who talk about ego is

(has

> >> been) Sigmund Freud?....

> >>

>

> I doesn't matter what I believe, the simple fact is, Freud invented

the

> term " ego " , so that is the context in which I use and understand it.

>

>

> >> there are many concepts and theories about " ego " going around....

> >>

>

> Yes, that is true and the vast majority of those concepts are a

> misunderstanding. For a proper understanding of what Freud meant by

the

> term ego, you need to go and research his work.

>

>

> >> Please....nobody in here is an " expert " of whatever!

> >>

>

> I don't know, surely there could be people in here that might be

experts

> on one thing or another?

>

>

> >> I hope for " you " .....for your ego.....that you don't take

yourself

> >> for an expert.....

> >>

> >>

> >> Marc

> >>

> >

> >

>

> What ego? Haven't we already determined that the ego is an illusion?

 

 

yes, ego is of illusion only!

 

But one can't ignore such nature of illusion.

One should be a fool to ignore such nature.

 

It take more or less (long) times to slowly get detached from such

illusion.

 

Such illusion is causing the opposite of

liberation....constantly......

 

And it doesn't disappear in just reading a book....or with some nice

studies about....or even to work as a (pseudo) expert in it.

 

 

>

> No, I certainly do not consider myself an expert on the subject of

> psychotherapy (were the term ego comes from), however my partner is

> somewhat of an expert on psychotherapy, having a degree in

psychology.

 

 

good for " you " ...

 

>

> > Ps: i remind you that this is a spiritual group.....

> >

>

> I wonder if Sri Nis would have described himself as " spiritual'?

> > and i don't think that Freud give the same meaning

to " ego " ...than

> > spiritual people

 

 

ahh....so do you believe that Freud gave a kind of better meaning to

ego than your mentionned " spiritual people " ....?

> >

>

> No I doubt whether they are the same, considering that Freud coined

the

> term and spiritualists have perverted it.

 

 

since thousands of years people are thinking and reflecting the " ego "

issue....don't think that Freud was the first one.....:)

 

>

> For example, in psychotherapy there is no such term as " egoic " , the

> correct term is " egoistic " but most so called spiritualist who

having no

> understanding of any of Freud's work, have no idea what they are

talking

> about.

 

 

why should one get an understanding of Freud's work....?....

 

should one get an understanding of Freuds work...in order to just

know the meaning of ego?....

 

ridiculous...:)

 

 

Marc

>

>

>

> tyga

>

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dennis_travis33 wrote:

>>

>> What ego? Haven't we already determined that the ego is an illusion?

>>

>

>

> yes, ego is of illusion only!

>

> But one can't ignore such nature of illusion.

> One should be a fool to ignore such nature.

>

> It take more or less (long) times to slowly get detached from such

> illusion.

>

> Such illusion is causing the opposite of

> liberation....constantly......

>

> And it doesn't disappear in just reading a book....or with some nice

> studies about....or even to work as a (pseudo) expert in it.

>

 

I agree.

 

>

>

>> No, I certainly do not consider myself an expert on the subject of

>> psychotherapy (were the term ego comes from), however my partner is

>> somewhat of an expert on psychotherapy, having a degree in

>>

> psychology.

>

>

> good for " you " ...

>

 

Thank you.

 

>

>>> Ps: i remind you that this is a spiritual group.....

>>>

>>>

>> I wonder if Sri Nis would have described himself as " spiritual'?

>>

>>> and i don't think that Freud give the same meaning

>>>

> to " ego " ...than

>

>>> spiritual people

>>>

>

>

> ahh....so do you believe that Freud gave a kind of better meaning to

> ego than your mentionned " spiritual people " ....?

>

 

Actually just to clarify, I wrote " I wonder if Sri Nis would describe

himself as spiritual " ?

 

I think the second part of the sentence got mingled in there by error of

email formatting.

 

>

> since thousands of years people are thinking and reflecting the " ego "

> issue....don't think that Freud was the first one.....:)

>

 

No he wasn't the first person to conceive of something similar to ego

but he was the person that developed the theories associated with the

development of that particular word, that is my only point.

 

>

> why should one get an understanding of Freud's work....?....

>

 

To have a better understanding.

 

Why did you bother to learn to read and write English? Why do you share

your thoughts and ideas to people over the internet?

 

 

> should one get an understanding of Freuds work...in order to just

> know the meaning of ego?....

>

> ridiculous...:)

>

>

> Marc

>

 

If that's how you feel about learning what Freud meant by " ego " , then

that is your choice. " Ridiculous " though is a value judgement, I wonder

how Sri Nis might have felt about value judgements?

 

 

tyga

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Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga wrote:

>

> dennis_travis33 wrote:

> >>

> >> What ego? Haven't we already determined that the ego is an

illusion?

> >>

> >

> >

> > yes, ego is of illusion only!

> >

> > But one can't ignore such nature of illusion.

> > One should be a fool to ignore such nature.

> >

> > It take more or less (long) times to slowly get detached from

such

> > illusion.

> >

> > Such illusion is causing the opposite of

> > liberation....constantly......

> >

> > And it doesn't disappear in just reading a book....or with some

nice

> > studies about....or even to work as a (pseudo) expert in it.

> >

>

> I agree.

>

> >

> >

> >> No, I certainly do not consider myself an expert on the subject

of

> >> psychotherapy (were the term ego comes from), however my partner

is

> >> somewhat of an expert on psychotherapy, having a degree in

> >>

> > psychology.

> >

> >

> > good for " you " ...

> >

>

> Thank you.

>

> >

> >>> Ps: i remind you that this is a spiritual group.....

> >>>

> >>>

> >> I wonder if Sri Nis would have described himself as " spiritual'?

> >>

> >>> and i don't think that Freud give the same meaning

> >>>

> > to " ego " ...than

> >

> >>> spiritual people

> >>>

> >

> >

> > ahh....so do you believe that Freud gave a kind of better meaning

to

> > ego than your mentionned " spiritual people " ....?

> >

>

> Actually just to clarify, I wrote " I wonder if Sri Nis would

describe

> himself as spiritual " ?

>

> I think the second part of the sentence got mingled in there by

error of

> email formatting.

>

> >

> > since thousands of years people are thinking and reflecting

the " ego "

> > issue....don't think that Freud was the first one.....:)

> >

>

> No he wasn't the first person to conceive of something similar to

ego

> but he was the person that developed the theories associated with

the

> development of that particular word, that is my only point.

>

> >

> > why should one get an understanding of Freud's work....?....

> >

>

> To have a better understanding.

>

> Why did you bother to learn to read and write English? Why do you

share

> your thoughts and ideas to people over the internet?

>

>

> > should one get an understanding of Freuds work...in order to just

> > know the meaning of ego?....

> >

> > ridiculous...:)

> >

> >

> > Marc

> >

>

> If that's how you feel about learning what Freud meant by " ego " ,

then

> that is your choice. " Ridiculous " though is a value judgement, I

wonder

> how Sri Nis might have felt about value judgements?

>

>

> tyga

 

 

.... " Freud " .... " Sri Nis " ......your partner diplomas....etc....

 

i'm wondering if you could get anything by " your " own....:)

 

Marc

>

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dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

>

>

> ... " Freud " .... " Sri Nis " ......your partner diplomas....etc....

>

> i'm wondering if you could get anything by " your " own....:)

>

> Marc

>

>

>

>

> ---

>

>

Yes of course.

 

I wonder why you feel it necessary to focus on my personal abilities

rather than answer the questions?

 

Does this need to refocus the attention on others fit in with your need

to annihilate any sense of self?

 

tyga

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Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga wrote:

>

> dennis_travis33 wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > ... " Freud " .... " Sri Nis " ......your partner diplomas....etc....

> >

> > i'm wondering if you could get anything by " your " own....:)

> >

> > Marc

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

> Yes of course.

>

> I wonder why you feel it necessary to focus on my personal

abilities

> rather than answer the questions?

>

> Does this need to refocus the attention on others fit in with your

need

> to annihilate any sense of self?

>

> tyga

 

 

i'm not the one who feel some fabulous need......for whatever...

 

we are talking about ego

 

you are trying to escape your illusory ego....in mentionning

Freud....Nis...your partner....who all have ...in your opinion, some

great definitions.

 

you focus all the time the attention on others so

 

i only focus the attention on " you " ....because i'm talking

to " you " ......not to Freud, nor to Nis, nor to your partner.

 

you don't like any attention on this your illusory ego?...

 

 

 

Marc

 

 

 

 

 

 

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dennis_travis33 wrote:

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> i'm not the one who feel some fabulous need......for whatever...

>

> we are talking about ego

>

> you are trying to escape your illusory ego....in mentionning

> Freud....Nis...your partner....who all have ...in your opinion, some

> great definitions.

>

> you focus all the time the attention on others so

>

> i only focus the attention on " you " ....because i'm talking

> to " you " ......not to Freud, nor to Nis, nor to your partner.

>

> you don't like any attention on this your illusory ego?...

>

>

>

> Marc

>

>

>

>

Thank you for being clearer in what you meant, it does go a long way to

making communication much more effective. :)

 

I'm not trying to escape my illusory ego though Marc, why would I

attempt to escape something that doesn't exist? That would be absurd.

 

Let me be as concise as possible though. In mentioning the ego, I was

only pointing out that the term " ego " originated with Freud, which I

have been informed by my partner, that is all, anything else to do with

ego I have stated is illusion. so I think we are actually in agreement

about " ego " , that it is an illusion.

 

I mentioned Sri Nis because of the supposed nature of this forum

and was wandering what you might have thought he might

have thought? Was I mistaken that this forum was in the nature of

discussion of Nisargadatta and his theories? If I am mistaken, then I'm

in the wrong forum.

 

tyga

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Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga wrote:

>

> dennis_travis33 wrote:

> >

> > i'm not the one who feel some fabulous need......for whatever...

> >

> > we are talking about ego

> >

> > you are trying to escape your illusory ego....in mentionning

> > Freud....Nis...your partner....who all have ...in your opinion,

some

> > great definitions.

> >

> > you focus all the time the attention on others so

> >

> > i only focus the attention on " you " ....because i'm talking

> > to " you " ......not to Freud, nor to Nis, nor to your partner.

> >

> > you don't like any attention on this your illusory ego?...

> >

> >

> >

> > Marc

> >

> >

> >

> >

> Thank you for being clearer in what you meant, it does go a long

way to

> making communication much more effective. :)

>

> I'm not trying to escape my illusory ego though Marc, why would I

> attempt to escape something that doesn't exist? That would be

absurd.

 

>

> Let me be as concise as possible though. In mentioning the ego, I

was

> only pointing out that the term " ego " originated with Freud, which

I

> have been informed by my partner, that is all, anything else to do

with

> ego I have stated is illusion. so I think we are actually in

agreement

> about " ego " , that it is an illusion.

 

 

so why, is this your illusion (ego) talking

about " love & compassion " ?....

 

why talking about some famous illusions " who " once wrote some nice

definitions....to nobody realy.....?

 

" love & compassion " for whom?.....except for the reflection of this

your self made illusory ego & world......in need.

 

>

> I mentioned Sri Nis because of the supposed nature of this forum

> and was wandering what you might have thought he

might

> have thought? Was I mistaken that this forum was in the nature of

> discussion of Nisargadatta and his theories? If I am mistaken, then

I'm

> in the wrong forum.

>

> tyga

 

 

 

nobody in here who could know what Nis would have been thought and

answered to whatever questions....

 

 

Marc

>

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dennis_travis33 wrote:

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> so why, is this your illusion (ego) talking

> about " love & compassion " ?....

>

> why talking about some famous illusions " who " once wrote some nice

> definitions....to nobody realy.....?

>

> " love & compassion " for whom?.....except for the reflection of this

> your self made illusory ego & world......in need.

>

 

Thanks for asking.

 

I was merely making a suggestion on what would be a beneficial way to

live ones life. I am assuming that living life with love and compassion

would be far better than living life with hate and bitterness. I

understand that everything is meaningless and that when investigated

there is no self to speak of but even with this knowledge, I still need

to interact with people on a very regular basis and I assume you do

also. During these interactions, I find it much more beneficial to

behave with love and compassion than to not do so. Only my opinion of

course.

 

>

>> I mentioned Sri Nis because of the supposed nature of this forum

>> and was wandering what you might have thought he

>>

> might

>

>> have thought? Was I mistaken that this forum was in the nature of

>> discussion of Nisargadatta and his theories? If I am mistaken, then

>>

> I'm

>

>> in the wrong forum.

>>

>> tyga

>>

>

>

>

> nobody in here who could know what Nis would have been thought and

> answered to whatever questions....

>

>

> Marc

>

>

>

>

> ---

>

>

Ok, well thanks for that information. I suppose my question ought have

been, what do we know of what Nis said that could help us to understand

the situation better?

 

tyga

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Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga wrote:

>

> dennis_travis33 wrote:

> >

> > so why, is this your illusion (ego) talking

> > about " love & compassion " ?....

> >

> > why talking about some famous illusions " who " once wrote some

nice

> > definitions....to nobody realy.....?

> >

> > " love & compassion " for whom?.....except for the reflection of this

> > your self made illusory ego & world......in need.

> >

>

> Thanks for asking.

>

> I was merely making a suggestion on what would be a beneficial way

to

> live ones life. I am assuming that living life with love and

compassion

> would be far better than living life with hate and bitterness. I

> understand that everything is meaningless and that when

investigated

> there is no self to speak of but even with this knowledge, I still

need

> to interact with people on a very regular basis and I assume you do

> also. During these interactions, I find it much more beneficial to

> behave with love and compassion than to not do so. Only my opinion

of

> course.

>

> >

> >> I mentioned Sri Nis because of the supposed nature of this forum

> >> and was wandering what you might have thought he

> >>

> > might

> >

> >> have thought? Was I mistaken that this forum was in the nature

of

> >> discussion of Nisargadatta and his theories? If I am mistaken,

then

> >>

> > I'm

> >

> >> in the wrong forum.

> >>

> >> tyga

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > nobody in here who could know what Nis would have been thought

and

> > answered to whatever questions....

> >

> >

> > Marc

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

> Ok, well thanks for that information. I suppose my question ought

have

> been, what do we know of what Nis said that could help us to

understand

> the situation better?

>

> tyga

>

 

 

which situation?.....

 

who is it who reject the need to understand the nature of the

mentionned " illusion " of " ego " ?....

 

it's not " me " ....

 

Marc

 

 

Ps: your choice this your " love & compassion " .....in fact, " you " don't

have any choice ;)

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> which situation?.....

>

 

Any situation, within any or without any context. Whatever, I'm not

fussed, anything you would like to share.

 

 

> who is it who reject the need to understand the nature of the

> mentionned " illusion " of " ego " ?....

>

> it's not " me " ....

>

> Marc

>

 

I don't know, I'm not sure I understand your question?

 

>

> Ps: your choice this your " love & compassion " .....in fact, " you " don't

> have any choice ;)

>

>

> ---

>

>

Oh yes indeed, it is my choice, I understand that. And I also understand

why you say I have no choice, as there is nobody to choose much less

something to choose. ;)

 

But from a practical perspective, my choice is a most beneficial one.

 

tyga

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Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga wrote:

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> dennis_travis33 wrote:

> >

> > which situation?.....

> >

>

> Any situation, within any or without any context. Whatever, I'm not

> fussed, anything you would like to share.

>

>

> > who is it who reject the need to understand the nature of the

> > mentionned " illusion " of " ego " ?....

> >

> > it's not " me " ....

> >

> > Marc

> >

>

> I don't know, I'm not sure I understand your question?

>

> >

> > Ps: your choice this your " love & compassion " .....in fact, " you "

don't

> > have any choice ;)

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

> Oh yes indeed, it is my choice, I understand that. And I also

understand

> why you say I have no choice, as there is nobody to choose much

less

> something to choose. ;)

>

> But from a practical perspective, my choice is a most beneficial

one.

>

> tyga

>

 

 

ego's don't have any free choice.

 

as far i see...you don't understand that.

 

the only practical perspective you can ever have, is related to your

own illusory ego....to nobody else.

 

......

 

wish you good luck with this your nice attitudes of being proud of

whatever fabulous known definitions etc.

 

 

Marc

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