Guest guest Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 In the course of investigating the nature of the mind we often forget who is asking the questions. By not including ourselves in the question, we pursue only part of the problem and our inquiry becomes disembodied; it attempts to express a " view from nowhere " . It is this attempt to have a disembodied view from nowhere that leads to having a view from a specific, conceptually entrapped somewhere. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > In the course of investigating the nature of the mind we often forget > who is asking the questions. > > By not including ourselves in the question, we pursue only part of the > problem and our inquiry becomes disembodied; it attempts to express a > " view from nowhere " . > > It is this attempt to have a disembodied view from nowhere that leads > to having a view from a specific, conceptually entrapped somewhere. > > > toombaru > as long there is an attempt to reach whatever....with a busy restless mind....and endless thoughts.....the path leads indeed to a view from " nowhere " as long there is a heavy ego-mind....feeling to make whatever attempt to reach some peace......nothing change there is nobody existing who could ever make any attemp to anything. there is only simpe being....all the time....without any break. it's only about awareness. nothing else Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 In a message dated 9/26/2008 8:04:42 AM GMT Standard Time, dennis_travis33 writes: Nisargadatta , "toombaru2006" <lastrain wrote:>> > > > In the course of investigating the nature of the mind we often forget> who is asking the questions.> > By not including ourselves in the question, we pursue only part of the> problem and our inquiry becomes disembodied; it attempts to express a> "view from nowhere".> > It is this attempt to have a disembodied view from nowhere that leads> to having a view from a specific, conceptually entrapped somewhere.> > > toombaru>as long there is an attempt to reach whatever....with a busy restless mind....and endless thoughts.....the path leads indeed to a view from "nowhere"as long there is a heavy ego-mind....feeling to make whatever attempt to reach some peace......nothing changethere is nobody existing who could ever make any attemp to anything.there is only simpe being....all the time....without any break.it's only about awareness.nothing elseMarc ... ~~~ My most precious moments as a child were those spent alone and each place i managed to achieve the silence of solitude became special and sacred. This followed on through life, until, because of it's position and what it represented, the island in it's turn became my most special sacred place. But having said that the places where i found solitude did not matter for what was most important was solitude itself. It's only fairly recently that i've realised that in order to achieve solitude one doesn't have to be anywhere special, nor live the life of a recluse either (although it's beneficial), for the awareness of inner silence and stillness is the unchangeable core of our being and all we have to do to become aware of it is open our minds. catherine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 No 'from nowhere' No 'unbroken being' No awareness No 'I' No 'not I' neti-neti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Nisargadatta , Keith Karnaky <htiek0 wrote: > > No 'from nowhere' > > No 'unbroken being' > > No awareness > > No 'I' > > No 'not I' > > > neti-neti > There comes a time when neti-neti negates even itself. t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Keith Karnaky <htiek0@> wrote: > > > > No 'from nowhere' > > > > No 'unbroken being' > > > > No awareness > > > > No 'I' > > > > No 'not I' > > > > > > neti-neti > > > > > > There comes a time when neti-neti negates even itself. > > > t. > All universes are born in that moment. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 In a message dated 9/28/2008 11:34:39 PM GMT Standard Time, kailashana writes: Anna,> > Is there a separation between the seeker and the sought ? Or IS the > seeker the sought ?Both are thoughts which separate one from the other.> > What means "deep within one's heart" ? Must it be very, very deep or > slightly deep or is it already enough when just a little bit deep in > one's heart ?Depth... hmmmm. depth.....hmmmm....How deep is deep? A glass or two of cool water quenches the thirst. Hot water is goodfor tea & coffee. A mirage of water won't soothe a lost soul'sthirst. And too much water can drown if one can't swim or one is hitby a tsunami. Kind of like that. Drinking from the inner well as needed....is good. .... ~~~ Drinking seems at bit like dipping into it at will which is possible when one thinks about it... but without thinking it flows unceasingly. catherine > > Tell us please, how deep ?> > Werner> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Nisargadatta , Catrix777 wrote: > > In a message dated 9/26/2008 8:04:42 AM GMT Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > _Nisargadatta@NisargadattaNis_ (Nisargadatta ) > , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In the course of investigating the nature of the mind we often forget > > who is asking the questions. > > > > By not including ourselves in the question, we pursue only part of the > > problem and our inquiry becomes disembodied; it attempts to express a > > " view from nowhere " . > > > > It is this attempt to have a disembodied view from nowhere that leads > > to having a view from a specific, conceptually entrapped somewhere. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > as long there is an attempt to reach whatever....as long there is an a > mind....and endless thoughts....mind....and endless thoughts. > from " nowhere " > > as long there is a heavy ego-mind....as long there is a heavy ego- > to reach some peace......nothing change > > there is nobody existing who could ever make any attemp to anything. > > there is only simpe being....all the time....without any break. > > it's only about awareness. > > nothing else > > Marc > .. > > > > ~~~ My most precious moments as a child > were those spent alone > and each place i managed to achieve > the silence of solitude > became special and sacred. > > This followed on through life, > until, because of it's position and what it represented, > the island in it's turn became my most special sacred place. > But having said that > the places where i found solitude did not matter > for what was most important was solitude itself. > > It's only fairly recently that i've realised > that in order to achieve solitude > one doesn't have to be anywhere special, > nor live the life of a recluse either (although it's beneficial), > for the awareness of inner silence and stillness > is the unchangeable core of our being > and all we have to do to become aware of it > is open our minds. > > catherine > Whatever one seeks, one finds deep within one's heart... one's being. It seems to come from another source... and since source is awareness the fountain is within. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Catrix777@ wrote: > > > > In a message dated 9/26/2008 8:04:42 AM GMT Standard Time, > > dennis_travis33@ writes: > > > > _Nisargadatta@NisargadattaNis_ > (Nisargadatta ) > > , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the course of investigating the nature of the mind we often forget > > > who is asking the questions. > > > > > > By not including ourselves in the question, we pursue only part > of the > > > problem and our inquiry becomes disembodied; it attempts to express a > > > " view from nowhere " . > > > > > > It is this attempt to have a disembodied view from nowhere that leads > > > to having a view from a specific, conceptually entrapped somewhere. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > as long there is an attempt to reach whatever....as long there is an a > > mind....and endless thoughts....mind....and endless thoughts. > > from " nowhere " > > > > as long there is a heavy ego-mind....as long there is a heavy ego- > > to reach some peace......nothing change > > > > there is nobody existing who could ever make any attemp to anything. > > > > there is only simpe being....all the time....without any break. > > > > it's only about awareness. > > > > nothing else > > > > Marc > > .. > > > > > > > > ~~~ My most precious moments as a child > > were those spent alone > > and each place i managed to achieve > > the silence of solitude > > became special and sacred. > > > > This followed on through life, > > until, because of it's position and what it represented, > > the island in it's turn became my most special sacred place. > > But having said that > > the places where i found solitude did not matter > > for what was most important was solitude itself. > > > > It's only fairly recently that i've realised > > that in order to achieve solitude > > one doesn't have to be anywhere special, > > nor live the life of a recluse either (although it's > beneficial), > > for the awareness of inner silence and stillness > > is the unchangeable core of our being > > and all we have to do to become aware of it > > is open our minds. > > > > catherine > > > > > > Whatever one seeks, one finds deep within one's heart... one's being. > > It seems to come from another source... and since source is awareness > the fountain is within. > > ~A > Anna, Is there a separation between the seeker and the sought ? Or IS the seeker the sought ? What means " deep within one's heart " ? Must it be very, very deep or slightly deep or is it already enough when just a little bit deep in one's heart ? Tell us please, how deep ? Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Catrix777@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 9/26/2008 8:04:42 AM GMT Standard Time, > > > dennis_travis33@ writes: > > > > > > _Nisargadatta@NisargadattaNis_ > > (Nisargadatta ) > > > , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the course of investigating the nature of the mind we often > forget > > > > who is asking the questions. > > > > > > > > By not including ourselves in the question, we pursue only part > > of the > > > > problem and our inquiry becomes disembodied; it attempts to > express a > > > > " view from nowhere " . > > > > > > > > It is this attempt to have a disembodied view from nowhere > that leads > > > > to having a view from a specific, conceptually entrapped > somewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > as long there is an attempt to reach whatever....as long there > is an a > > > mind....and endless thoughts....mind....and endless thoughts. > > > from " nowhere " > > > > > > as long there is a heavy ego-mind....as long there is a heavy > ego- > > > to reach some peace......nothing change > > > > > > there is nobody existing who could ever make any attemp to > anything. > > > > > > there is only simpe being....all the time....without any break. > > > > > > it's only about awareness. > > > > > > nothing else > > > > > > Marc > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ My most precious moments as a child > > > were those spent alone > > > and each place i managed to achieve > > > the silence of solitude > > > became special and sacred. > > > > > > This followed on through life, > > > until, because of it's position and what it represented, > > > the island in it's turn became my most special sacred > place. > > > But having said that > > > the places where i found solitude did not matter > > > for what was most important was solitude itself. > > > > > > It's only fairly recently that i've realised > > > that in order to achieve solitude > > > one doesn't have to be anywhere special, > > > nor live the life of a recluse either (although it's > > beneficial), > > > for the awareness of inner silence and stillness > > > is the unchangeable core of our being > > > and all we have to do to become aware of it > > > is open our minds. > > > > > > catherine > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever one seeks, one finds deep within one's heart... one's > being. > > > > It seems to come from another source... and since source is > awareness > > the fountain is within. > > > > ~A > > > > Anna, > > Is there a separation between the seeker and the sought ? Or IS the > seeker the sought ? Both are thoughts which separate one from the other. > > What means " deep within one's heart " ? Must it be very, very deep or > slightly deep or is it already enough when just a little bit deep in > one's heart ? Depth... hmmmm. depth.....hmmmm....How deep is deep? A glass or two of cool water quenches the thirst. Hot water is good for tea & coffee. A mirage of water won't soothe a lost soul's thirst. And too much water can drown if one can't swim or one is hit by a tsunami. Kind of like that. Drinking from the inner well as needed....is good. > > Tell us please, how deep ? > > Werner > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 > > ... > > ~~~ Drinking seems at bit like dipping into it at will > which is possible when one thinks about it... > but without thinking it flows unceasingly. > > catherine Indeed, Cat. Quite so. ~A > > > > > > > > Tell us please, how deep ? > > > > Werner > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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