Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Anything that can be seen.......or thought about...is outside the silent-center of Awareness that it the only reality. That is who you are in the same sense that a mirage is always and only sun light. The oddest thing is that Awareness can know itself only through the illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls through time and space. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: " ................ The oddest thing is that Awareness can know itself only through the > illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls through time and space. " there is nobody existing who could " know itself " Awareness isn't about " knowing " whatever Marc toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ................ The oddest thing is that Awareness can know > itself only through the > > illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls through time and > space. " > > > there is nobody existing who could " know itself " > > Awareness isn't about " knowing " whatever > > > Marc I beg to differ with you Marc, the one who signs his name as such. What awareness caused you do to do that? ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ................ The oddest thing is that Awareness can know > > itself only through the > > > illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls through time and > > space. " > > > > > > there is nobody existing who could " know itself " > > > > Awareness isn't about " knowing " whatever > > > > > > Marc > > I beg to differ with you Marc, the one who signs his name as such. > What awareness caused you do to do that? > > ~A i'm talking about Awareness in a spiritual sense.... you mean maybe " consciousness " which result of/from the identification with this & that....? Awareness result maybe simply from being....without any relation to whatever illusions....included the illusion of being this & that Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ................ The oddest thing is that Awareness can know > > > itself only through the > > > > illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls through time > and > > > space. " > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing who could " know itself " > > > > > > Awareness isn't about " knowing " whatever > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > I beg to differ with you Marc, the one who signs his name as such. > > What awareness caused you do to do that? > > > > ~A > > > i'm talking about Awareness in a spiritual sense.... > > you mean maybe " consciousness " which result of/from the > identification with this & that....? > > Awareness result maybe simply from being....without any relation to > whatever illusions....included the illusion of being this & that > > > > Marc Awareness creates content - consciousness... at least that's how I see it ;-) ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ................ The oddest thing is that Awareness can know > > > > itself only through the > > > > > illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls through time > > and > > > > space. " > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing who could " know itself " > > > > > > > > Awareness isn't about " knowing " whatever > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > I beg to differ with you Marc, the one who signs his name as such. > > > What awareness caused you do to do that? > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > i'm talking about Awareness in a spiritual sense.... > > > > you mean maybe " consciousness " which result of/from the > > identification with this & that....? > > > > Awareness result maybe simply from being....without any relation to > > whatever illusions....included the illusion of being this & that > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > Awareness creates content - consciousness... at least that's how I see > it ;-) > > > ~A Awareness Is How could anything be created what not already Is? ..... So Awareness don't create anything for real. ..... Your so called " content-consciousness " is of illusion, unreal. How could ever something unreal, means illusion, be created for real? ..... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ................ The oddest thing is that Awareness can know > > > > itself only through the > > > > > illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls through time > > and > > > > space. " > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing who could " know itself " > > > > > > > > Awareness isn't about " knowing " whatever > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > I beg to differ with you Marc, the one who signs his name as such. > > > What awareness caused you do to do that? > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > i'm talking about Awareness in a spiritual sense.... > > > > you mean maybe " consciousness " which result of/from the > > identification with this & that....? > > > > Awareness result maybe simply from being....without any relation to > > whatever illusions....included the illusion of being this & that > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > Awareness creates content - consciousness... at least that's how I see > it ;-) > > > ~A Consciousness creates content......content creates consciousness. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ................ The oddest thing is that Awareness can know > > > > > itself only through the > > > > > > illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls through time > > > and > > > > > space. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing who could " know itself " > > > > > > > > > > Awareness isn't about " knowing " whatever > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > I beg to differ with you Marc, the one who signs his name as such. > > > > What awareness caused you do to do that? > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > i'm talking about Awareness in a spiritual sense.... > > > > > > you mean maybe " consciousness " which result of/from the > > > identification with this & that....? > > > > > > Awareness result maybe simply from being....without any relation to > > > whatever illusions....included the illusion of being this & that > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > Awareness creates content - consciousness... at least that's how I see > > it ;-) > > > > > > ~A > > > Consciousness creates content......content creates consciousness. > > > > toombaru > Not quite, There is no creation of content or consciousness: Conscioiusness IS its content ... the content IS consciousness. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ................ The oddest thing is that Awareness can > know > > > > > > itself only through the > > > > > > > illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls through > time > > > > and > > > > > > space. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing who could " know itself " > > > > > > > > > > > > Awareness isn't about " knowing " whatever > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > I beg to differ with you Marc, the one who signs his name as > such. > > > > > What awareness caused you do to do that? > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm talking about Awareness in a spiritual sense.... > > > > > > > > you mean maybe " consciousness " which result of/from the > > > > identification with this & that....? > > > > > > > > Awareness result maybe simply from being....without any > relation to > > > > whatever illusions....included the illusion of being this & that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Awareness creates content - consciousness... at least that's how > I see > > > it ;-) > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > Consciousness creates content......content creates consciousness. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > Not quite, > > There is no creation of content or consciousness: > > Conscioiusness IS its content ... the content IS consciousness. > > Werner > Perhaps we should name it contenonsciousness. :-) t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ................ The oddest thing is that Awareness can > > know > > > > > > > itself only through the > > > > > > > > illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls through > > time > > > > > and > > > > > > > space. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing who could " know itself " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Awareness isn't about " knowing " whatever > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > I beg to differ with you Marc, the one who signs his name as > > such. > > > > > > What awareness caused you do to do that? > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm talking about Awareness in a spiritual sense.... > > > > > > > > > > you mean maybe " consciousness " which result of/from the > > > > > identification with this & that....? > > > > > > > > > > Awareness result maybe simply from being....without any > > relation to > > > > > whatever illusions....included the illusion of being this & that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Awareness creates content - consciousness... at least that's how > > I see > > > > it ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > Consciousness creates content......content creates consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Not quite, > > > > There is no creation of content or consciousness: > > > > Conscioiusness IS its content ... the content IS consciousness. > > > > Werner > > > > > Perhaps we should name it contenonsciousness. > > > :-) > > > > t. > Without awareness... there is no consciousness it's all a blur... the content of discontent... ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ................ The oddest thing is that Awareness can > > > know > > > > > > > > itself only through the > > > > > > > > > illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls through > > > time > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > space. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing who could " know itself " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Awareness isn't about " knowing " whatever > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I beg to differ with you Marc, the one who signs his name as > > > such. > > > > > > > What awareness caused you do to do that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm talking about Awareness in a spiritual sense.... > > > > > > > > > > > > you mean maybe " consciousness " which result of/from the > > > > > > identification with this & that....? > > > > > > > > > > > > Awareness result maybe simply from being....without any > > > relation to > > > > > > whatever illusions....included the illusion of being this & that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Awareness creates content - consciousness... at least that's how > > > I see > > > > > it ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness creates content......content creates consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not quite, > > > > > > There is no creation of content or consciousness: > > > > > > Conscioiusness IS its content ... the content IS consciousness. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Perhaps we should name it contenonsciousness. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > Without awareness... there is no consciousness it's all a blur... > the content of discontent... > > ~A > Ana, I know that Niz believed that awareness is the source of consciouness but this happens not in Germany or in several other European conutries which don't have the English word " awareness " . In Germany for awareness and consciousness we have just have one word: " Bewusstsein " . And therefore, as a German, I think that Niz was wrong or even was crazy Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " > <kailashana@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ................ The oddest thing is that Awareness > can > > > > know > > > > > > > > > itself only through the > > > > > > > > > > illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls > through > > > > time > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > space. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing who could " know itself " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Awareness isn't about " knowing " whatever > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I beg to differ with you Marc, the one who signs his > name as > > > > such. > > > > > > > > What awareness caused you do to do that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm talking about Awareness in a spiritual sense.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you mean maybe " consciousness " which result of/from the > > > > > > > identification with this & that....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Awareness result maybe simply from being....without any > > > > relation to > > > > > > > whatever illusions....included the illusion of being this & that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Awareness creates content - consciousness... at least that's > how > > > > I see > > > > > > it ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness creates content......content creates consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not quite, > > > > > > > > There is no creation of content or consciousness: > > > > > > > > Conscioiusness IS its content ... the content IS consciousness. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps we should name it contenonsciousness. > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > Without awareness... there is no consciousness it's all a blur... > > the content of discontent... > > > > ~A > > > > Ana, > > I know that Niz believed that awareness is the source of consciouness > but this happens not in Germany or in several other European > conutries which don't have the English word " awareness " . > > In Germany for awareness and consciousness we have just have one > word: " Bewusstsein " . > > And therefore, as a German, I think that Niz was wrong or > even was crazy > > Werner > I love you Werner... ~A p.s. did you hear me laugh out loud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Hi guys, On 'one side': AWARENESS...and its opposing or 'opposite side' 'no awareness'. THAT which is ONE with both has no problems with either side or opposite. Like water doesn`t have a problem with ice or steam. That which is that universal common denominator.. 100%. This eliminates all words,description, shape, problems,spaces, time, energies,,nothingness, beingness, no beingness. k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , Keith Karnaky <htiek0 wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > On 'one side': > > AWARENESS...and its opposing or 'opposite side' > > 'no awareness'. > > THAT which is ONE with both has no problems with either side or opposite. > > Like water doesn`t have a problem with ice or steam. > > That which is that universal common denominator.. 100%. > > This eliminates all words,description, shape, problems,spaces, time, > energies,,nothingness, beingness, no beingness. > > k > Yeah, so? ~A just kidding. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ................ The oddest thing is that Awareness can know > > > > > itself only through the > > > > > > illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls through time > > > and > > > > > space. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing who could " know itself " > > > > > > > > > > Awareness isn't about " knowing " whatever > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > I beg to differ with you Marc, the one who signs his name as such. > > > > What awareness caused you do to do that? > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > i'm talking about Awareness in a spiritual sense.... > > > > > > you mean maybe " consciousness " which result of/from the > > > identification with this & that....? > > > > > > Awareness result maybe simply from being....without any relation to > > > whatever illusions....included the illusion of being this & that > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > Awareness creates content - consciousness... at least that's how I see > > it ;-) > > > > > > ~A > > > Consciousness creates content......content creates consciousness. > > > > toombaru yes, ....at least that's how " I " see it too.... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ................ The oddest thing is that Awareness can > know > > > > > > itself only through the > > > > > > > illusory fragments that it casts off as it hurls through > time > > > > and > > > > > > space. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing who could " know itself " > > > > > > > > > > > > Awareness isn't about " knowing " whatever > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > I beg to differ with you Marc, the one who signs his name as > such. > > > > > What awareness caused you do to do that? > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm talking about Awareness in a spiritual sense.... > > > > > > > > you mean maybe " consciousness " which result of/from the > > > > identification with this & that....? > > > > > > > > Awareness result maybe simply from being....without any > relation to > > > > whatever illusions....included the illusion of being this & that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Awareness creates content - consciousness... at least that's how > I see > > > it ;-) > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > Consciousness creates content......content creates consciousness. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > Not quite, > > There is no creation of content or consciousness: > > Conscioiusness IS its content ... the content IS consciousness. > > Werner > lol when each create the other....then, why not....it's possible to say " consciousness Is its content " .... and then? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not quite, > > > > > > > > > > There is no creation of content or consciousness: > > > > > > > > > > Conscioiusness IS its content ... the content IS consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps we should name it contenonsciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without awareness... there is no consciousness it's all a blur... > > > the content of discontent... > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > Ana, > > > > I know that Niz believed that awareness is the source of consciouness > > but this happens not in Germany or in several other European > > conutries which don't have the English word " awareness " . > > > > In Germany for awareness and consciousness we have just have one > > word: " Bewusstsein " . > > > > And therefore, as a German, I think that Niz was wrong or > > even was crazy > > > > Werner > > > > > > I love you Werner... > > > ~A > > > p.s. did you hear me laugh out loud? > Smile ... My introduction of Germany indeed was meant as a joke, Anna. And so I am pleased to have caused a laugh. But to see awareness as the source of consciousness will introduce an eternal source: The Absolute or God. This " Absolute eternal Source " is THE! stronghold, THE! straw many, many frightened chicken are clamping to as THE! spiritual support and the belief in an eternal continuity in order not having to face one's eternal end. And that " spiritual support " I would call total bull ... Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not quite, > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no creation of content or consciousness: > > > > > > > > > > > > Conscioiusness IS its content ... the content IS > consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps we should name it contenonsciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without awareness... there is no consciousness it's all a > blur... > > > > the content of discontent... > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > Ana, > > > > > > I know that Niz believed that awareness is the source of > consciouness > > > but this happens not in Germany or in several other European > > > conutries which don't have the English word " awareness " . > > > > > > In Germany for awareness and consciousness we have just have one > > > word: " Bewusstsein " . > > > > > > And therefore, as a German, I think that Niz was wrong or > > > even was crazy > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > I love you Werner... > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > p.s. did you hear me laugh out loud? > > > > Smile ... > > My introduction of Germany indeed was meant as a joke, Anna. And so I > am pleased to have caused a laugh. > > But to see awareness as the source of consciousness will introduce an > eternal source: The Absolute or God. > > This " Absolute eternal Source " is THE! stronghold, THE! straw many, > many frightened chicken are clamping to as THE! spiritual support and > the belief in an eternal continuity in order not having to face one's > eternal end. > > And that " spiritual support " I would call total bull ... > > Werner > yes, this your mentionned " God " or the " Absolute " is of fantastic excuses.....for laughing bubbles.....in order to continue to create big big worlds.....and more of this " compassion and love " sauce.....in order to digest and burn continiously such mountains of illusions Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not quite, > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no creation of content or consciousness: > > > > > > > > > > > > Conscioiusness IS its content ... the content IS > consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps we should name it contenonsciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without awareness... there is no consciousness it's all a > blur... > > > > the content of discontent... > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > Ana, > > > > > > I know that Niz believed that awareness is the source of > consciouness > > > but this happens not in Germany or in several other European > > > conutries which don't have the English word " awareness " . > > > > > > In Germany for awareness and consciousness we have just have one > > > word: " Bewusstsein " . > > > > > > And therefore, as a German, I think that Niz was wrong or > > > even was crazy > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > I love you Werner... > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > p.s. did you hear me laugh out loud? > > > > Smile ... > > My introduction of Germany indeed was meant as a joke, Anna. And so I > am pleased to have caused a laugh. > > But to see awareness as the source of consciousness will introduce an > eternal source: The Absolute or God. > > This " Absolute eternal Source " is THE! stronghold, THE! straw many, > many frightened chicken are clamping to as THE! spiritual support and > the belief in an eternal continuity in order not having to face one's > eternal end. > > And that " spiritual support " I would call total bull ... > > Werner > Now take a look at the one yelling " bull " . How real is that center of perception? :-) t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not quite, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no creation of content or consciousness: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conscioiusness IS its content ... the content IS > > consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps we should name it contenonsciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without awareness... there is no consciousness it's all a > > blur... > > > > > the content of discontent... > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ana, > > > > > > > > I know that Niz believed that awareness is the source of > > consciouness > > > > but this happens not in Germany or in several other European > > > > conutries which don't have the English word " awareness " . > > > > > > > > In Germany for awareness and consciousness we have just have one > > > > word: " Bewusstsein " . > > > > > > > > And therefore, as a German, I think that Niz was wrong or > > > > even was crazy > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I love you Werner... > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > p.s. did you hear me laugh out loud? > > > > > > > Smile ... > > > > My introduction of Germany indeed was meant as a joke, Anna. And so I > > am pleased to have caused a laugh. > > > > But to see awareness as the source of consciousness will introduce an > > eternal source: The Absolute or God. > > > > This " Absolute eternal Source " is THE! stronghold, THE! straw many, > > many frightened chicken are clamping to as THE! spiritual support and > > the belief in an eternal continuity in order not having to face one's > > eternal end. > > > > And that " spiritual support " I would call total bull ... > > > > Werner > > > > > > > Now take a look at the one yelling " bull " . > > How real is that center of perception? > > > :-) > > > > t. > Impossible, Toomb, There is no one who was or is yelling " bull " and who could get looked at. Are you sure he does exist ? He must be a mirage, a fata morgana in your head. Now a task for you: Look at the one who stumbled accross the mirage of someone who was supposed to have yelled " bull " . Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " > <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > <wwoehr@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not quite, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no creation of content or consciousness: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conscioiusness IS its content ... the content IS > > > consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps we should name it contenonsciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without awareness... there is no consciousness it's all a > > > blur... > > > > > > the content of discontent... > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ana, > > > > > > > > > > I know that Niz believed that awareness is the source of > > > consciouness > > > > > but this happens not in Germany or in several other European > > > > > conutries which don't have the English word " awareness " . > > > > > > > > > > In Germany for awareness and consciousness we have just have > one > > > > > word: " Bewusstsein " . > > > > > > > > > > And therefore, as a German, I think that Niz was wrong or > > > > > even was crazy > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I love you Werner... > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. did you hear me laugh out loud? > > > > > > > > > > Smile ... > > > > > > My introduction of Germany indeed was meant as a joke, Anna. And > so I > > > am pleased to have caused a laugh. > > > > > > But to see awareness as the source of consciousness will > introduce an > > > eternal source: The Absolute or God. > > > > > > This " Absolute eternal Source " is THE! stronghold, THE! straw > many, > > > many frightened chicken are clamping to as THE! spiritual support > and > > > the belief in an eternal continuity in order not having to face > one's > > > eternal end. > > > > > > And that " spiritual support " I would call total bull ... > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now take a look at the one yelling " bull " . > > > > How real is that center of perception? > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > Impossible, Toomb, > > There is no one who was or is yelling " bull " and who could get looked > at. Are you sure he does exist ? He must be a mirage, a fata morgana > in your head. > > Now a task for you: > > Look at the one who stumbled accross the mirage of someone who was > supposed to have yelled " bull " . > > > > Werner > :-) t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " > > <kailashana@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > <wwoehr@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not quite, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no creation of content or consciousness: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conscioiusness IS its content ... the content IS > > > > consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps we should name it contenonsciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without awareness... there is no consciousness it's all a > > > > blur... > > > > > > > the content of discontent... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ana, > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that Niz believed that awareness is the source of > > > > consciouness > > > > > > but this happens not in Germany or in several other European > > > > > > conutries which don't have the English word " awareness " . > > > > > > > > > > > > In Germany for awareness and consciousness we have just have > > one > > > > > > word: " Bewusstsein " . > > > > > > > > > > > > And therefore, as a German, I think that Niz was wrong or > > > > > > even was crazy > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I love you Werner... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. did you hear me laugh out loud? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Smile ... > > > > > > > > My introduction of Germany indeed was meant as a joke, Anna. And > > so I > > > > am pleased to have caused a laugh. > > > > > > > > But to see awareness as the source of consciousness will > > introduce an > > > > eternal source: The Absolute or God. > > > > > > > > This " Absolute eternal Source " is THE! stronghold, THE! straw > > many, > > > > many frightened chicken are clamping to as THE! spiritual support > > and > > > > the belief in an eternal continuity in order not having to face > > one's > > > > eternal end. > > > > > > > > And that " spiritual support " I would call total bull ... > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now take a look at the one yelling " bull " . > > > > > > How real is that center of perception? > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > Impossible, Toomb, > > > > There is no one who was or is yelling " bull " and who could get looked > > at. Are you sure he does exist ? He must be a mirage, a fata morgana > > in your head. > > > > Now a task for you: > > > > Look at the one who stumbled accross the mirage of someone who was > > supposed to have yelled " bull " . > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > :-) > > > > > t. > ......feathers... A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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