Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Objects arise within thought and thought is confined to thinking about the objects that it creates. Thought thinks that it can think its way out of the conceptual dream that is not different than itself. Ain't that a kick in the ass? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 toombaru2006 wrote: > > > Objects arise within thought and thought is confined to thinking about > the objects that it creates. > > Thought thinks that it can think its way out of the conceptual dream > that is not different than itself. > > Ain't that a kick in the ass? > toombaru > > > --- > > No, I don't believe so. I think that what we perceive as the limit to human understanding, is just the limit to our understanding of human limitations, which is to say, that just because we can't currently see any possible way to see past what we perceive as an insurmountable obstacle, does not mean therefore that an ability to see past those obstacles does not exist. I think it kind of arrogant on the part of the human mind to believe that just because it's in a paradoxical situation of not being able to see beyond its own thoughts, then therefore there is no way to see beyond its own thoughts. tyga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga wrote: > > toombaru2006 wrote: > > > > > > Objects arise within thought and thought is confined to thinking about > > the objects that it creates. > > > > Thought thinks that it can think its way out of the conceptual dream > > that is not different than itself. > > > > Ain't that a kick in the ass? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > --- > > > > > No, I don't believe so. > > I think that what we perceive as the limit to human understanding, is > just the limit to our understanding of human limitations, which is to > say, that just because we can't currently see any possible way to see > past what we perceive as an insurmountable obstacle, does not mean > therefore that an ability to see past those obstacles does not exist. > > I think it kind of arrogant on the part of the human mind to believe > that just because it's in a paradoxical situation of not being able to > see beyond its own thoughts, then therefore there is no way to see > beyond its own thoughts. > > > tyga > Proof is in the pudding, as it were... has anyone really considered where thoughts come from and why we consider them *mine*? ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga@> wrote: > > > > toombaru2006 wrote: > > > > > > > > > Objects arise within thought and thought is confined to thinking about > > > the objects that it creates. > > > > > > Thought thinks that it can think its way out of the conceptual dream > > > that is not different than itself. > > > > > > Ain't that a kick in the ass? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > No, I don't believe so. > > > > I think that what we perceive as the limit to human understanding, is > > just the limit to our understanding of human limitations, which is to > > say, that just because we can't currently see any possible way to see > > past what we perceive as an insurmountable obstacle, does not mean > > therefore that an ability to see past those obstacles does not exist. > > > > I think it kind of arrogant on the part of the human mind to believe > > that just because it's in a paradoxical situation of not being able to > > see beyond its own thoughts, then therefore there is no way to see > > beyond its own thoughts. > > > > > > tyga > > > > > > Proof is in the pudding, as it were... has anyone really considered > where thoughts come from and why we consider them *mine*? > > ~A thoughts are in relation to the imaginary individual being....to nothing else thoughts remain without any meaning....except the one to keep illusion going on Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga@> wrote: > > > > > > toombaru2006 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Objects arise within thought and thought is confined to > thinking about > > > > the objects that it creates. > > > > > > > > Thought thinks that it can think its way out of the conceptual > dream > > > > that is not different than itself. > > > > > > > > Ain't that a kick in the ass? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > No, I don't believe so. > > > > > > I think that what we perceive as the limit to human > understanding, is > > > just the limit to our understanding of human limitations, which > is to > > > say, that just because we can't currently see any possible way to > see > > > past what we perceive as an insurmountable obstacle, does not > mean > > > therefore that an ability to see past those obstacles does not > exist. > > > > > > I think it kind of arrogant on the part of the human mind to > believe > > > that just because it's in a paradoxical situation of not being > able to > > > see beyond its own thoughts, then therefore there is no way to > see > > > beyond its own thoughts. > > > > > > > > > tyga > > > > > > > > > > > Proof is in the pudding, as it were... has anyone really considered > > where thoughts come from and why we consider them *mine*? > > > > ~A > > > thoughts are in relation to the imaginary individual being....to > nothing else > > thoughts remain without any meaning....except the one to keep > illusion going on > > > Marc > > > Go deeper Marc.... where did that thought come from? And why is it *yours* to speak/write of? What are *thoughts*? Are thoughts *things*? Am I a thinker? ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga@> wrote: > > > > > > > > toombaru2006 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Objects arise within thought and thought is confined to > > thinking about > > > > > the objects that it creates. > > > > > > > > > > Thought thinks that it can think its way out of the conceptual > > dream > > > > > that is not different than itself. > > > > > > > > > > Ain't that a kick in the ass? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, I don't believe so. > > > > > > > > I think that what we perceive as the limit to human > > understanding, is > > > > just the limit to our understanding of human limitations, which > > is to > > > > say, that just because we can't currently see any possible way to > > see > > > > past what we perceive as an insurmountable obstacle, does not > > mean > > > > therefore that an ability to see past those obstacles does not > > exist. > > > > > > > > I think it kind of arrogant on the part of the human mind to > > believe > > > > that just because it's in a paradoxical situation of not being > > able to > > > > see beyond its own thoughts, then therefore there is no way to > > see > > > > beyond its own thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > tyga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Proof is in the pudding, as it were... has anyone really considered > > > where thoughts come from and why we consider them *mine*? > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > thoughts are in relation to the imaginary individual being....to > > nothing else > > > > thoughts remain without any meaning....except the one to keep > > illusion going on > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > Go deeper Marc.... where did that thought come from? And why is it > *yours* to speak/write of? > > What are *thoughts*? Are thoughts *things*? Am I a thinker? > > ~A would say to " A " ...forget about your illusory identity....and stop finally this meaningless flow of endless thoughts.... .... Yes, thoughts are of material....so, things. " You " are of such material, thinking material, yes....who else?....there is nobody else! Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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