Guest guest Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Jiddu Krishnamurti - THE AWAKENING OF INTELLIGENCE PART X A DISCUSSION WITH A SMALL GROUP AT BROCKWOOD PARK 6TH JUNE 1970 'VIOLENCE AND THE " ME " ' (excerpt): Questioner: Though it (the " me " ) seems to be an entity, to me it is more of an action, or an activity. Is this word not misleading us? Krishnamurti: No, it isn't. It does not mean it is something solid, like the trunk of a tree. It is a movement, it is a living thing. One day it feels marvellous, the next day it is in great depression. One day it is passionate, lustful, the next day it is worn out and says, " Let me have some peace. " It is a constantly moving, active thing. How is this movement to transform itself into another movement, without becoming violent? First, let us get the question right. We said: this is a movement, it is a living thing, it is not static, it is not something dead, it is adding to itself all the time, and taking away from itself all the time. This is the " me " . And when the " me " says, " I must get rid of the `me', " wanting to have another " me " , it is still violent; the " me " that says: " I am a pacifist, I live peacefully " , the me that seeks truth, the me that says " I must live beautifully, non-violently " , is still the " me " which is the cause of violence. What will the mind do with this living thing? And the mind itself is the " me " . Do you understand the question? Any movement on the part of the " me " to get rid of itself, to say " I must wither away " , " I must destroy myself " , " I must gradually get rid of myself " , is still that same movement of the " me " , is still the " me " which is the root of violence. Do we realize that? Do we really see that? Not theoretically, but actually realize the truth of it, that any movement of the " me " in any direction, is the action of violence. Do I actually, sensuously, intelligently, see the truth of it, know the feel of it? If the mind does not, it can go on playing with words for ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Jiddu Krishnamurti - THE AWAKENING OF INTELLIGENCE PART X A > DISCUSSION WITH A SMALL GROUP AT BROCKWOOD PARK 6TH JUNE > 1970 'VIOLENCE AND THE " ME " ' > (excerpt): > > Questioner: Though it (the " me " ) seems to be an entity, to me it > is more of an action, or an activity. Is this word not misleading us? > > Krishnamurti: No, it isn't. It does not mean it is something > solid, like the trunk of a tree. It is a movement, it is a living > thing. One day it feels marvellous, the next day it is in great > depression. One day it is passionate, lustful, the next day it is > worn out and says, " Let me have some peace. " It is a constantly > moving, active thing. How is this movement to transform itself into > another movement, without becoming violent? First, let us get the > question right. We said: this is a movement, it is a living thing, it > is not static, it is not something dead, it is adding to itself all > the time, and taking away from itself all the time. This is the " me " . > And when the " me " says, " I must get rid of the `me', " wanting to have > another " me " , it is still violent; the " me " that says: " I am a > pacifist, I live peacefully " , the me that seeks truth, the me that > says " I must live beautifully, non-violently " , is still the " me " > which is the cause of violence. > > What will the mind do with this living thing? And the mind > itself is the " me " . Do you understand the question? Any movement on > the part of the " me " to get rid of itself, to say " I must wither > away " , " I must destroy myself " , " I must gradually get rid of myself " , > is still that same movement of the " me " , is still the " me " which is > the root of violence. Do we realize that? Do we really see that? Not > theoretically, but actually realize the truth of it, that any > movement of the " me " in any direction, is the action of violence. Do > I actually, sensuously, intelligently, see the truth of it, know the > feel of it? If the mind does not, it can go on playing with words for > ever. > Well.............not forever. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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