Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Through science we can predict an eclipse. Through science we can rid the world of small pox and polio. Through science we can hope to find a cure for aids. Through religion we can......................uhhhh. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > T: Through science we can predict an eclipse. > > Through science we can rid the world of small pox and polio. > > Through science we can hope to find a cure for aids. > > Through religion we can......................uhhhh. P; Keep hope alive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Through science we can predict an eclipse. > > Through science we can rid the world of small pox and polio. > > Through science we can hope to find a cure for aids. > > Through religion we can............ ...........try to see god in each other. > > > > > toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > T: Through science we can predict an eclipse. > > > > Through science we can rid the world of small pox and polio. > > > > Through science we can hope to find a cure for aids. > > > > Through religion we can......................uhhhh. > > P; Keep hope alive? > The only hope lies in loosing it. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Through science we can predict an eclipse. > > > > Through science we can rid the world of small pox and polio. > > > > Through science we can hope to find a cure for aids. > > > > Through religion we can............ > > ..........try to see god in each other. > > Possibly..............if there were such a thing as God.......and each other. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 toombaru2006 wrote: > Through science we can predict an eclipse. > > Through science we can rid the world of small pox and polio. > > Through science we can hope to find a cure for aids. > > Through religion we can......................uhhhh. > > > > > toombaru > > > > --- > Make up what ever sort of bullshit nonsense that takes our fancy and then declare it as the absolute truth, regardless of any supporting evidence to the contrary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga wrote: > > toombaru2006 wrote: > > Through science we can predict an eclipse. > > > > Through science we can rid the world of small pox and polio. > > > > Through science we can hope to find a cure for aids. > > > > Through religion we can......................uhhhh. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > --- > > > Make up what ever sort of bullshit nonsense that takes our fancy and > then declare it as the absolute truth, regardless of any supporting > evidence to the contrary? > Can you name anything positive about the belief in God? Can you think of any evidence to support such a belief? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 toombaru2006 wrote: > > > Can you name anything positive about the belief in God? > No. > Can you think of any evidence to support such a belief? > No. toombaru > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Through science we can predict an eclipse. > > > > > > Through science we can rid the world of small pox and polio. > > > > > > Through science we can hope to find a cure for aids. > > > > > > Through religion we can............ > > > > > ..........try to see god in each other. > > > > > > > > > Possibly..............if there were such a thing as God.......and each > other. > > > > > toombaru > Is that what you tell your wife...your children? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Through science we can predict an eclipse. > > > > > > > > Through science we can rid the world of small pox and polio. > > > > > > > > Through science we can hope to find a cure for aids. > > > > > > > > Through religion we can............ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..........try to see god in each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly..............if there were such a thing as God.......and > each > > other. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Is that what you tell your wife...your children? > I no longer think of us as separate. There is no god between us. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Say you were in a pitch black room. If you wanted proof that there is a way out the answer might be to search for some sign of light and examine it for it`s benefit.....this kind of thing. I think this method applies to the GOD STUFF. What`s been a light to me personally is NONDUALITY......VEDANTA. It may not be everyones 'cup of tea'. I suggest it....... Look it up under 'Google'. My teacher was Ranjit Maharaj. I have personal knowledge on him. k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Through science we can predict an eclipse. > > > > > > > > > > Through science we can rid the world of small pox and polio. > > > > > > > > > > Through science we can hope to find a cure for aids. > > > > > > > > > > Through religion we can............ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..........try to see god in each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly..............if there were such a thing as God.......and > > each > > > other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > Is that what you tell your wife...your children? > > > > > > I no longer think of us as separate. > > There is no god between us. > > > > > > toombaru > How do you not seperate yourself from 'others' by thinking? There is quite a difference between thinking and experience, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Without hope there's no hopelessness. Within and *as* this realization resides "true" hope! Michael A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Nisargadatta , Keith Karnaky <htiek0 wrote: > > Say you were in a pitch black room. > > If you wanted proof that there is a way out the answer might be to search for some sign of light and examine it for it`s benefit.....this kind of thing. One can practice medicine in a morgue......but not much good comes from it. toombaru > > I think this method applies to the GOD STUFF. > > What`s been a light to me personally is NONDUALITY......VEDANTA. > > It may not be everyones 'cup of tea'. > > I suggest it....... > > Look it up under 'Google'. > > My teacher was Ranjit Maharaj. > > I have personal knowledge on him. > > k > > Any attempt to help the self is applying makeup to the mirror. Some day.......if your teacher is worth a hill of beans....he will send you packing. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Through science we can predict an eclipse. > > > > > > > > > > > > Through science we can rid the world of small pox and polio. > > > > > > > > > > > > Through science we can hope to find a cure for aids. > > > > > > > > > > > > Through religion we can............ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..........try to see god in each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly..............if there were such a thing as > God.......and > > > each > > > > other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > Is that what you tell your wife...your children? > > > > > > > > > > > I no longer think of us as separate. > > > > There is no god between us. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > How do you not seperate yourself from 'others' by thinking? > > There is quite a difference between thinking and experience, isn't it? > Thinking creates an imaginary separation that it cannot undo. Quite a problem eh? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Through science we can predict an eclipse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Through science we can rid the world of small pox and polio. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Through science we can hope to find a cure for aids. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Through religion we can............ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..........try to see god in each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly..............if there were such a thing as > > God.......and > > > > each > > > > > other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that what you tell your wife...your children? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I no longer think of us as separate. > > > > > > There is no god between us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > How do you not seperate yourself from 'others' by thinking? > > > > There is quite a difference between thinking and experience, isn't it? > > > > > Thinking creates an imaginary separation that it cannot undo. Only when you're a 'slave' of your memories!! > > > Quite a problem eh? It would be a good start by not confirming that 'problem'...as such. > > toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 > > > > > > > Thinking creates an imaginary separation that it cannot undo. > > Only when you're a 'slave' of your memories!! There is no you outside your memories. > > > > > > > Quite a problem eh? > > It would be a good start by not confirming that 'problem'...as such. > Good for whom? The only way " out " is understanding. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thinking creates an imaginary separation that it cannot undo. > > > > Only when you're a 'slave' of your memories!! There is no you outside your memories. > > Yes, Toomb, the " me " is its memories. Without memories there is no " me " . Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite a problem eh? > > > > It would be a good start by not confirming that 'problem'...as such. > > > > > Good for whom? > > The only way " out " is understanding. > > > > > > toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thinking creates an imaginary separation that it cannot undo. > > > > > > Only when you're a 'slave' of your memories!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no you outside your memories. > > > > > > > Yes, Toomb, the " me " is its memories. > > Without memories there is no " me " . > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite a problem eh? > > > > > > It would be a good start by not confirming that 'problem'...as > such. > > > > > > > > > Good for whom? > > > > The only way " out " is understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > How do we ever 'understand'...without expecting a result... With the way we think...? I don't 'think' so!! There is no way in or out, we are the 'way'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thinking creates an imaginary separation that it cannot undo. > > > > > > > > Only when you're a 'slave' of your memories!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no you outside your memories. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Toomb, the " me " is its memories. > > > > Without memories there is no " me " . > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite a problem eh? > > > > > > > > It would be a good start by not confirming that 'problem'...as > > such. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good for whom? > > > > > > The only way " out " is understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > How do we ever 'understand'...without expecting a result... > > With the way we think...? I don't 'think' so!! > > There is no way in or out, we are the 'way'... > We are the confusion. What happens to a shadow when the sun sees it? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Through science we can predict an eclipse. > > Through science we can rid the world of small pox and polio. > > Through science we can hope to find a cure for aids. > > Through religion we can......................uhhhh. > > > > > toombaru through religion every imaginary other religious freak at church can admire the new shirt and shoes one has recently bought Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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