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In a message dated 30/10/2008 7:17:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tyga writes:

souldreamone wrote:>>> I might just add though......that seeking is very entertaining and> can> be a whole lot of fun. It has kept me chasing my tail for years. :)>> I think it is probably a wise idea to keep in mind that we only> know as> much as we are capable of understanding, the little human mind being> only a very small meaty experiencing machine, which could not> possibly> be capable of comprehending all of existence.>> For example, what would a mind be like looking back at us from the> tenth> dimension? Assuming there are minds in the tenth dimension. Would our> understanding of consciousness be quaintly absurd? I'm guessing it> would be.>> Bear in mind that ten dimensional entails being capable of perceiving> all possible realities in all possible universes. Intriguing no?>>> tyga>> Lately, I seem to be seeking more and enjoying it less.>>>> ------Really?I find it all so endlessly entertaining. :)tyga

 

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Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga wrote:

>

> souldreamone wrote:

> >

> >

> > Yes but......as you say, we operate according to desire and

> > agenda, and being present without thought doesn't happen

based on

> > somebody else's recommendation of something good to do. It

comes

> > about through an understanding of the imprisoning nature of

> > thought defining the self, and so the question of how this

intense

> > focus on the self arises and continues is of significance.

> >

> > Experience, itself, presupposes a subject/object split. There

must

> > be an experiencer and an experience, and part of the

experience is

> > that there are other experiencers that are having different

> > experiences, so it's no mystery how it happens that this

unique

> > focal point of experience is assigned the label of an

independent

> > self who experiences. The attributes of this self are simply

> > extensions built on that foundational assumption.

> >

> > When we look at this apparent experiencer, we notice the

original

> > assumption and we find that the person consists entirely of

those

> > extensions, or defining qualities and characteristics, and is

> > actually devoid of a foundation. We notice that the

experiencer,

> > itself, is being experienced too, and so the self becomes just

> > another part of experience.

> >

> > At this point, if mind were able to grasp the actual

experiencer,

> > it would be an easy matter to let go of the person who clearly

> > doesn't have any reality anyway. However, mind is also part

of the

> > experience, consisting of 'thoughts about' the experience,

and so

> > mind functions only in the realm of subject/object. As mind

looks

> > for an object that is the real experiencer, it either

> > conceptualizes one falsely or it draws a blank, since the

> > experiencer is not an object at all but rather the subject;

the

> > same subject that is looking in mind for itself as an object.

> >

> > The bottom line is that the best mind can do is notice it's

own

> > misconceptions, and see that there really is no person here.

At

> > this point, there is nowhere else for mind to go, and

meanwhile,

> > mind is still bombarded by objective evidence of it's apparent

> > existence. Mind is not involved in the event of subject

noticing

> > itself subjectively, and so it must recognize the futility of

> > seeking it, and drop the seeking.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

------

> I might just add though......that seeking is very entertaining and

can

> be a whole lot of fun. It has kept me chasing my tail for years. :)

>

> I think it is probably a wise idea to keep in mind that we only

know as

> much as we are capable of understanding, the little human mind

being

> only a very small meaty experiencing machine, which could not

possibly

> be capable of comprehending all of existence.

>

> For example, what would a mind be like looking back at us from the

tenth

> dimension? Assuming there are minds in the tenth dimension. Would

our

> understanding of consciousness be quaintly absurd? I'm guessing it

would be.

>

> Bear in mind that ten dimensional entails being capable of

perceiving

> all possible realities in all possible universes. Intriguing no?

>

>

> tyga

>

You wonder what 10th dimension mind thinks assuming that there is a

tenth dimension? Mea fuking culpa.

 

Christ, thank god there is no hope.

 

But, I must protest Hur, he is masterbating all over my computer

Joe.

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marktimmins60 wrote:

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> You wonder what 10th dimension mind thinks assuming that there is a

> tenth dimension? Mea fuking culpa.

>

> Christ, thank god there is no hope.

>

> But, I must protest Hur, he is masterbating all over my computer

> Joe.

>

>

> ---

>

>

I'm certainly glad you found it so entertaining. :)

 

 

tyga

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souldreamone wrote:

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>

> Really?

>

> I find it all so endlessly entertaining. :)

>

>

> tyga

>

> Is that a good thing? :)

>

>

>

> ------

It's neither good nor bad I suppose.

 

It's all about enjoying what I have. :)

 

If everything is meaningless, which it is, then everything is as good or

as bad as I decide it is going to be. So I might as well enjoy it. :)

 

If that's bad, then I don't mind being wrong.

 

 

tyga

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