Guest guest Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 In a message dated 11/4/2008 6:21:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, binduau writes: A diwali gift for you and your family..dear one..... the truth is that since there is only one Self (namelyGod --- Sri Krishnaa etc...) then the karma that is said to belong to aman is NOT his at all... it belongs to God.... it is true that theKarma makes a man (or woman) what he is.... (it modulates his life andconsciousness) but it is not HIS.,......it makes him what he is,,,, so then my dear dear friendlet go of the absurd idea that you have Karma or that any man haskarma..... THE MAN IS MADE AS HE IS BY THE KARMA .bindu: i.e. how can a configuring set of attributes be the actualthing ?For example paint makes a car blue or red etc... but red or blue is notthe car... nor does it belong to the car the car and its color belongto the owner (in the case of the Jiva.. he is OWNED by god) JIva doesnot belong to himselfJIva has not any self of his own to whom he can belong ... hence howcan he OWN KARMA?>__/|\__ I didn't realize anyone believed that they owned karma. Interesting. Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 A diwali gift for you and your family.. dear one..... the truth is that since there is only one Self (namely God --- Sri Krishnaa etc...) then the karma that is said to belong to a man is NOT his at all... it belongs to God.... it is true that the Karma makes a man (or woman) what he is.... (it modulates his life and consciousness) but it is not HIS.,...... it makes him what he is,,,, so then my dear dear friend let go of the absurd idea that you have Karma or that any man has karma..... THE MAN IS MADE AS HE IS BY THE KARMA . bindu: i.e. how can a configuring set of attributes be the actual thing ? For example paint makes a car blue or red etc... but red or blue is not the car... nor does it belong to the car the car and its color belong to the owner (in the case of the Jiva.. he is OWNED by god) JIva does not belong to himself JIva has not any self of his own to whom he can belong ... hence how can he OWN KARMA?> __/|\__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Nisargadatta , " bindu " <binduau wrote: > > A diwali gift for you and your family.. > > dear one..... the truth is that since there is only one Self (namely > God --- Sri Krishnaa etc...) then the karma that is said to belong to > a > man is NOT his at all... it belongs to God.... it is true that the > Karma makes a man (or woman) what he is.... (it modulates his life and > consciousness) but it is not HIS.,...... > > > it makes him what he is,,,, so then my dear dear friend > let go of the absurd idea that you have Karma or that any man has > karma..... THE MAN IS MADE AS HE IS BY THE KARMA . > bindu: i.e. how can a configuring set of attributes be the actual > thing ? > > For example paint makes a car blue or red etc... but red or blue is > not > the car... nor does it belong to the car the car and its color belong > to the owner (in the case of the Jiva.. he is OWNED by god) JIva does > not belong to himself > JIva has not any self of his own to whom he can belong ... hence how > can he OWN KARMA?> > __/|\__ > Karma is what make the difference to " God " the difference between " you " and " God " is " Karma " ..... Indeed, neither Karma nor any imaginary self is of real Identity. Therefore neither Karma nor any imaginary self belong to anybody. Karma is equal to imaginary self. ..... Real Identity is formless, changless and infinite Self. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 In a message dated 11/5/2008 2:15:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dennis_travis33 writes: Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > > > In a message dated 11/4/2008 6:21:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > binduau writes:> > A diwali gift for you and your family..> > dear one..... the truth is that since there is only one Self (namely> God --- Sri Krishnaa etc...) then the karma that is said to belong to > a> man is NOT his at all... it belongs to God.... it is true that the> Karma makes a man (or woman) what he is.... (it modulates his life and> consciousness) but it is not HIS.,......> > > it makes him what he is,,,, so then my dear dear friend> let go of the absurd idea that you have Karma or that any man has> karma..... THE MAN IS MADE AS HE IS BY THE KARMA .> bindu: i.e. how can a configuring set of attributes be the actual> thing ?> > For example paint makes a car blue or red etc... but red or blue is > not> the car... nor does it belong to the car the car and its color belong> to the owner (in the case of the Jiva.. he is OWNED by god) JIva does> not belong to himself> JIva has not any self of his own to whom he can belong ... hence how> can he OWN KARMA?>> __/|\__> > > > I didn't realize anyone believed that they owned karma. Interesting.> > > lolno Guru who could make money with you so...no Karma dealMarc Hey, if some guru is buying karma, I'm willing to sell. ~ Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/4/2008 6:21:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > binduau writes: > > A diwali gift for you and your family.. > > dear one..... the truth is that since there is only one Self (namely > God --- Sri Krishnaa etc...) then the karma that is said to belong to > a > man is NOT his at all... it belongs to God.... it is true that the > Karma makes a man (or woman) what he is.... (it modulates his life and > consciousness) but it is not HIS.,...... > > > it makes him what he is,,,, so then my dear dear friend > let go of the absurd idea that you have Karma or that any man has > karma..... THE MAN IS MADE AS HE IS BY THE KARMA . > bindu: i.e. how can a configuring set of attributes be the actual > thing ? > > For example paint makes a car blue or red etc... but red or blue is > not > the car... nor does it belong to the car the car and its color belong > to the owner (in the case of the Jiva.. he is OWNED by god) JIva does > not belong to himself > JIva has not any self of his own to whom he can belong ... hence how > can he OWN KARMA?> > __/|\__ > > > > I didn't realize anyone believed that they owned karma. Interesting. > > > lol no Guru who could make money with you so... no Karma deal Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/5/2008 2:15:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/4/2008 6:21:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > binduau@ writes: > > > > A diwali gift for you and your family.. > > > > dear one..... the truth is that since there is only one Self > (namely > > God --- Sri Krishnaa etc...) then the karma that is said to belong > to > > a > > man is NOT his at all... it belongs to God.... it is true that the > > Karma makes a man (or woman) what he is.... (it modulates his life > and > > consciousness) but it is not HIS.,...... > > > > > > it makes him what he is,,,, so then my dear dear friend > > let go of the absurd idea that you have Karma or that any man has > > karma..... THE MAN IS MADE AS HE IS BY THE KARMA . > > bindu: i.e. how can a configuring set of attributes be the actual > > thing ? > > > > For example paint makes a car blue or red etc... but red or blue > is > > not > > the car... nor does it belong to the car the car and its color > belong > > to the owner (in the case of the Jiva.. he is OWNED by god) JIva > does > > not belong to himself > > JIva has not any self of his own to whom he can belong ... hence > how > > can he OWN KARMA?> > > __/|\__ > > > > > > > > I didn't realize anyone believed that they owned karma. > Interesting. > > > > > > > lol > > no Guru who could make money with you so... > > no Karma deal > > Marc > > > > > Hey, if some guru is buying karma, I'm willing to sell. ~ be carefull....no karma, no fun! lol > > > Ps: one should seriously think about to create the World Karma-Index Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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