Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 In a message dated 12/11/2008 8:41:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, pedsie6 writes: Some scientists, frankly admitthat the universe's laws seemexactly designed to support life,and that if this is the onlyuniverse that ever existed, thatwould be too much of a coincidence.This fine tuning is so perfect, thatthe only possible explanation wouldbe that it was created for life. Ofcourse that would introduce the Gword in cosmology and that would putthe beginning of time out of thescientific ballpark and into theology'scourt.So, scientists came up with thetheory of the multiverse: In anendless series of self reproducinguniverses all combinations ofnatural laws are possible, includingthose which make life viable. Thatexplains why we exist, but not howthe first universe came to be.Mathematically speaking a multiversemakes a lot of sense, but ontologicallyit doesn't explain a thing. So, whichone you choose comes down to a matterof taste, and whether you prefer mathor religion as profession, or pastime.PS: I heard a scientifically inclinedparasite said that hair seemed so perfectlysuited to support its kind that it musthave been created just for lice. )http://cerosoul.wordpress.comhttp://awakefiction.wordpress.comPete ***Seems like there are a couple of options before we start imagining multiverse. One assumption seems to be that life can only happen the way it has, and so it's concluded that the only universe would be one that supports life as it is. What if life could take many forms, but it doesn't and can't because the conditions of this universe don't allow for it or even the simulation of it? The other option admittedly leaves science out, but it's nevertheless how I see it happening. Instead of life forming from the outside in, from the ground up, from physical matter to intelligence, it forms from the inside out, from formlessness to form, from intelligence to physicality. As such, a story is written by intelligence and expressed in form, and this story is about how form expresses as intelligence. Regardless of how the story is written, it will necessarilly show us that exactly the right conditions exist for life to appear, because we constructed the story by asking how did life appear. Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Some scientists, frankly admit that the universe's laws seem exactly designed to support life, and that if this is the only universe that ever existed, that would be too much of a coincidence. This fine tuning is so perfect, that the only possible explanation would be that it was created for life. Of course that would introduce the G word in cosmology and that would put the beginning of time out of the scientific ballpark and into theology's court. So, scientists came up with the theory of the multiverse: In an endless series of self reproducing universes all combinations of natural laws are possible, including those which make life viable. That explains why we exist, but not how the first universe came to be. Mathematically speaking a multiverse makes a lot of sense, but ontologically it doesn't explain a thing. So, which one you choose comes down to a matter of taste, and whether you prefer math or religion as profession, or pastime. PS: I heard a scientifically inclined parasite said that hair seemed so perfectly suited to support its kind that it must have been created just for lice. ) http://cerosoul.wordpress.com http://awakefiction.wordpress.com Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Nisargadatta , Pesi <pedsie6 wrote: > > Some scientists, frankly admit > that the universe's laws seem > exactly designed to support life, > and that if this is the only > universe that ever existed, that > would be too much of a coincidence. > > This fine tuning is so perfect, that > the only possible explanation would > be that it was created for life. Of > course that would introduce the G > word in cosmology and that would put > the beginning of time out of the > scientific ballpark and into theology's > court. > > So, scientists came up with the > theory of the multiverse: In an > endless series of self reproducing > universes all combinations > natural laws are possible, including > those which make life viable. That > explains why we exist, but not how > the first universe came to be. > > Mathematically speaking a multiverse > makes a lot of sense, but ontologically > it doesn't explain a thing. So, which > one you choose comes down to a matter > of taste, and whether you prefer math > or religion as profession, or pastime. > > PS: I heard a scientifically inclined > parasite said that hair seemed so perfectly > suited to support its kind that it must > have been created just for lice. ) > > http://cerosoul.wordpress.com > > http://awakefiction.wordpress.com > > > Pete > Finished Yet? Schrodinger's Cat? take a little quark here add a little black hole and mix together to form a soul, recite some squiggly lines and threads add an equation or two or three take a text book and professor of honorary status eliminate the middle man, the human mind string along some flaring in the positing of electronic firings in the chemical balances irradiating nucleic DNA, the absolute zero of an Advanced Light Source, formulate a mobile team comprised of 240 a wave-particle duality, Ha Ha! the inherent problems of a black body radiation causing a photoelectric effect effectively scattering Compton, which boggles de Broglie waves Damn! the Uncertainty Principle Strikes Again! problematic, schizoidmatic chasm now introduce Quantization in One dimension and superposition in Two dimensions, Spin 1/2, an inherently random non-continuous energy a small discrete unit in a message the atomic world is like NOTHING like the world we live in Finished Yet? Meow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Nisargadatta , Pesi <pedsie6 wrote: > > Some scientists, frankly admit > that the universe's laws seem > exactly designed to support life, > and that if this is the only > universe that ever existed, that > would be too much of a coincidence. > > This fine tuning is so perfect, that > the only possible explanation would > be that it was created for life. Of > course that would introduce the G > word in cosmology and that would put > the beginning of time out of the > scientific ballpark and into theology's > court. > > So, scientists came up with the > theory of the multiverse: In an > endless series of self reproducing > universes all combinations of > natural laws are possible, including > those which make life viable. That > explains why we exist, but not how > the first universe came to be. > > Mathematically speaking a multiverse > makes a lot of sense, but ontologically > it doesn't explain a thing. So, which > one you choose comes down to a matter > of taste, and whether you prefer math > or religion as profession, or pastime. > > PS: I heard a scientifically inclined > parasite said that hair seemed so perfectly > suited to support its kind that it must > have been created just for lice. ) > > http://cerosoul.wordpress.com > > http://awakefiction.wordpress.com > > > Pete > universe is life many lifes many universes .... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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