Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 In a message dated 11/13/2008 8:56:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, pedsie6 writes: >Eric: Reincarnation is a case of "let the mystery be" (please), towant to> explain all the things that are beyond immediate sense is a quest for> control on destiny.> Sure reincarnation and much more exist, but the process is far beyond> anyone's dissertation capabilities, far beyond Shakyamuni Buddha's> eloquent power.> Reincarnation does not take place in time, does not take place for a> single person, does not involve memory ... anyone who wants to dissert> about reincarnation has to include these prerequisites, and it is not> possible, they are beyond speech and an ear that would listen and> comprehend.P: It's quite simple, and terrifying.It's said that Buddha promisednot to enter final nirvana until allbeings had been saved. He said thisbecause entering final nirvana isimpossible as long as any form of lifesurvives. The only thing that savesyou from being me is your body. Aslong as there is a single mosquitoalive, you'd be it. But take heart,you live one life at a time as iffor the first time, and right now,you are, and are not, and can ifyou want, enjoy both at the same time. ***Final Nirvana is what, now?Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 >Eric: Reincarnation is a case of " let the mystery be " (please), to want to > explain all the things that are beyond immediate sense is a quest for > control on destiny. > Sure reincarnation and much more exist, but the process is far beyond > anyone's dissertation capabilities, far beyond Shakyamuni Buddha's > eloquent power. > Reincarnation does not take place in time, does not take place for a > single person, does not involve memory ... anyone who wants to dissert > about reincarnation has to include these prerequisites, and it is not > possible, they are beyond speech and an ear that would listen and > comprehend. P: It's quite simple, and terrifying. It's said that Buddha promised not to enter final nirvana until all beings had been saved. He said this because entering final nirvana is impossible as long as any form of life survives. The only thing that saves you from being me is your body. As long as there is a single mosquito alive, you'd be it. But take heart, you live one life at a time as if for the first time, and right now, you are, and are not, and can if you want, enjoy both at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > >Eric: Reincarnation is a case of " let the mystery be " (please), to > want to > > explain all the things that are beyond immediate sense is a quest for > > control on destiny. > > Sure reincarnation and much more exist, but the process is far beyond > > anyone's dissertation capabilities, far beyond Shakyamuni Buddha's > > eloquent power. > > Reincarnation does not take place in time, does not take place for a > > single person, does not involve memory ... anyone who wants to dissert > > about reincarnation has to include these prerequisites, and it is not > > possible, they are beyond speech and an ear that would listen and > > comprehend. > > P: It's quite simple, and terrifying. > It's said that Buddha promised > not to enter final nirvana until all > beings had been saved. He said this > because entering final nirvana is > impossible as long as any form of life > survives. The only thing that saves > you from being me is your body. As > long as there is a single mosquito > alive, you'd be it. But take heart, > you live one life at a time as if > for the first time, and right now, > you are, and are not, and can if > you want, enjoy both at the same time. > Perhaps not Pete, in the 3rd dimensional duality/reality that is perceived as existential life, some of us have grasped/groked that there is something very real beyond that. And I Am That. This is where sat-chit-ananda is known. There is a fire that burns through all duality, all strivings and comforts, all poetic musings and intellectual discourse. It is life itself, unbidden, unadulterated and flowing freely through all the human senses with an inner I/eye, so to speak. It is life with all the stops pulled out, it is life lived on a sharp blade of discrimination, in the simultaneous emptiness that is itself the very act of fulfillment--one's *ordinary* life. It is beautiful. It is ugly. It matters not. However, we do what we must to bring order from this chaos, to be of humble *service*, making love out of nothing at all. ;-) ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > >Eric: Reincarnation is a case of " let the mystery be " (please), to > want to > > explain all the things that are beyond immediate sense is a quest for > > control on destiny. > > Sure reincarnation and much more exist, but the process is far beyond > > anyone's dissertation capabilities, far beyond Shakyamuni Buddha's > > eloquent power. > > Reincarnation does not take place in time, does not take place for a > > single person, does not involve memory ... anyone who wants to dissert > > about reincarnation has to include these prerequisites, and it is not > > possible, they are beyond speech and an ear that would listen and > > comprehend. > > P: It's quite simple, and terrifying. > It's said that Buddha promised > not to enter final nirvana until all > beings had been saved. He said this > because entering final nirvana is > impossible as long as any form of life > survives. The only thing that saves > you from being me is your body. As > long as there is a single mosquito > alive, you'd be it. But take heart, > you live one life at a time as if > for the first time, and right now, > you are, and are not, and can if > you want, enjoy both at the same time. > Perhaps not Pete, in the 3rd dimensional duality/reality that is perceived as existential life, some of us have grasped/groked that there is something very real beyond that. And I Am That. This is where sat-chit-ananda is known. There is a fire that burns through all duality, all strivings and comforts, all poetic musings and intellectual discourse. It is life itself, unbidden, unadulterated and flowing freely through all the human senses with an inner I/eye, so to speak. It is life with all the stops pulled out, it is life lived on a sharp blade of discrimination, in the simultaneous emptiness that is itself the very act of fulfillment--one's *ordinary* life. It is beautiful. It is ugly. It matters not. However, we do what we must to bring order from this chaos, to be of humble *service*, making love out of nothing at all. ;-) ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > >Eric: Reincarnation is a case of " let the mystery be " (please), to > want to > > explain all the things that are beyond immediate sense is a quest for > > control on destiny. > > Sure reincarnation and much more exist, but the process is far beyond > > anyone's dissertation capabilities, far beyond Shakyamuni Buddha's > > eloquent power. > > Reincarnation does not take place in time, does not take place for a > > single person, does not involve memory ... anyone who wants to dissert > > about reincarnation has to include these prerequisites, and it is not > > possible, they are beyond speech and an ear that would listen and > > comprehend. > > P: It's quite simple, and terrifying. > It's said that Buddha promised > not to enter final nirvana until all > beings had been saved. He said this > because entering final nirvana is > impossible as long as any form of life > survives. The only thing that saves > you from being me is your body. As > long as there is a single mosquito > alive, you'd be it. But take heart, > you live one life at a time as if > for the first time, and right now, > you are, and are not, and can if > you want, enjoy both at the same time. .....again this Buddha addicted people in here... as long there are the words of Buddha in mind.... there is surely nobody saved from whatever .... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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