Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you realize that you make no sense at all? Do you > have > > > > nothing > > > > > > > better to do than to write nonsense? Is there some point > > in > > > > > > > responding that you were being polite when you knew that > > you > > > > were > > > > > > not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have time for your games iietsa...may I suggest > > > > Solitaire? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because you said earlier that you knew what I was going to > say > > > (I > > > > dont > > > > > > remember your excact word)...what are you whining about... > > > > > > I only show you that your picture was imperfect...that you > > dont > > > > know > > > > > > beforhand...it is a lesson for you...welcome... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa...While I realize that English is not your first > language, > > > it > > > > would be difficult to misinterpret what I say, unless someone > was > > > > making a deliberate effort at misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > I never stated anything that could be properly translated to > mean > > > > that I knew what you were going to say. I have no idea what > you > > > are > > > > going to say. To have an idea of what you intend to say, I > would > > > > have to a) know you and b) understand you. Since I don't know > > you > > > > and I certainly have no clue as to understanding your > convoluted > > > > mind, I would never presume to know what you are thinking.... > > > > > > > > which is something you would be wise to learn. > > > > > > > > In the meantime, if you can't refrain from misstating what I > have > > > > said (see lying in Webster's dictionary), it would be best that > > you > > > > be silent, as you only make yourself appear ignorant and > immature. > > > > > > > > And iietsa..I don't whine. I do drink wine, which I prefer > with > > > > cheese and bread. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > maby it was my luangage-failure... > > > anyway it was the " awfully presumptious " I was refearing to... > > > so my mistake...sorry... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > I am only kidding...you know you have a picture of me...of who you > > think I am....even if it is a subtle one... " awfully presumptious " > is > > part of that picture...and to have such an idea is to hold up an > > idea...instead of being open to what I really am... > > ...iietsa > > > > Oh iietsa...I am very open to what you are, which is why I am being > so patient with you. Had I know sense at all of who you are, I would > not make the attempt to stimulate your mind out of its quagmire of > nonsense into the realms of light and understanding. > > And, if you had any sense of who I am, you would have known that. > > Nanette > do you think openness or patient has anything to do with making an attempt to stimulate a mind out of its quagmire of nonsense into the realms of light and understanding? then I can see why you talk like you do... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you realize that you make no sense at all? Do you > > have > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > better to do than to write nonsense? Is there some > point > > > in > > > > > > > > responding that you were being polite when you knew > that > > > you > > > > > were > > > > > > > not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have time for your games iietsa...may I suggest > > > > > Solitaire? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because you said earlier that you knew what I was going > to > > say > > > > (I > > > > > dont > > > > > > > remember your excact word)...what are you whining about... > > > > > > > I only show you that your picture was imperfect...that > you > > > dont > > > > > know > > > > > > > beforhand...it is a lesson for you...welcome... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa...While I realize that English is not your first > > language, > > > > it > > > > > would be difficult to misinterpret what I say, unless someone > > was > > > > > making a deliberate effort at misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > > > I never stated anything that could be properly translated to > > mean > > > > > that I knew what you were going to say. I have no idea what > > you > > > > are > > > > > going to say. To have an idea of what you intend to say, I > > would > > > > > have to a) know you and b) understand you. Since I don't > know > > > you > > > > > and I certainly have no clue as to understanding your > > convoluted > > > > > mind, I would never presume to know what you are thinking.... > > > > > > > > > > which is something you would be wise to learn. > > > > > > > > > > In the meantime, if you can't refrain from misstating what I > > have > > > > > said (see lying in Webster's dictionary), it would be best > that > > > you > > > > > be silent, as you only make yourself appear ignorant and > > immature. > > > > > > > > > > And iietsa..I don't whine. I do drink wine, which I prefer > > with > > > > > cheese and bread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > maby it was my luangage-failure... > > > > anyway it was the " awfully presumptious " I was refearing to... > > > > so my mistake...sorry... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > From the dictionary link I sent to you: > > > > > > pre·sump·tu·ous > > > Pronunciation: \pri- & #712;z & #601;m(p)-ch & #601;-w & #601;s, - > > ch & #601;s, -sh & #601;s\ > > > Function: adjective > > > Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French presumptious, from > > Late > > > Latin praesumptuosus, irregular from praesumptio > > > 14th century > > > : overstepping due bounds (as of propriety or courtesy) : taking > > > liberties > > > — pre·sump·tu·ous·ly adverb > > > — pre·sump·tu·ous·ness noun > > > > > > When I said it was " awfully presumptuous " of you, I was saying > that > > > you were overstepping your bounds in making an assumption about > > what > > > I mean or say. It has nothing to do with my thinking I know what > > you > > > will say. > > > > > > This is why it is best that you think before you write. Much of > > what > > > you have written today is non-sensical. As an example, even > after > > > b.b.b. and I explained that solitaire is a card game played by > one > > > person, you tell him that you could play with him if he was human. > > > > > > Under no circumstances could you play solitaire with anyone...you > > can > > > only play it with yourself. > > > > > > Please go do so. > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > ...and everyone can not recognize a joke when it is told... > > and that is also funny... > > ...iietsa > > > > When you find that you are being laughed at instead of laughed with, > you know that the joke is not being told to you, it is you. > > And that iietsa, is rarely funny. > > Nanette > you are a rear pearl... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you realize that you make no sense at all? Do you > > > have > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > > better to do than to write nonsense? Is there some > > point > > > > in > > > > > > > > > responding that you were being polite when you knew > > that > > > > you > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have time for your games iietsa...may I > suggest > > > > > > Solitaire? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because you said earlier that you knew what I was going > > to > > > say > > > > > (I > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > remember your excact word)...what are you whining > about... > > > > > > > > I only show you that your picture was imperfect...that > > you > > > > dont > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > beforhand...it is a lesson for you...welcome... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa...While I realize that English is not your first > > > language, > > > > > it > > > > > > would be difficult to misinterpret what I say, unless > someone > > > was > > > > > > making a deliberate effort at misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > I never stated anything that could be properly translated > to > > > mean > > > > > > that I knew what you were going to say. I have no idea > what > > > you > > > > > are > > > > > > going to say. To have an idea of what you intend to say, I > > > would > > > > > > have to a) know you and b) understand you. Since I don't > > know > > > > you > > > > > > and I certainly have no clue as to understanding your > > > convoluted > > > > > > mind, I would never presume to know what you are > thinking.... > > > > > > > > > > > > which is something you would be wise to learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the meantime, if you can't refrain from misstating what > I > > > have > > > > > > said (see lying in Webster's dictionary), it would be best > > that > > > > you > > > > > > be silent, as you only make yourself appear ignorant and > > > immature. > > > > > > > > > > > > And iietsa..I don't whine. I do drink wine, which I prefer > > > with > > > > > > cheese and bread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maby it was my luangage-failure... > > > > > anyway it was the " awfully presumptious " I was refearing to... > > > > > so my mistake...sorry... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > From the dictionary link I sent to you: > > > > > > > > pre·sump·tu·ous > > > > Pronunciation: \pri- & #712;z & #601;m(p)-ch & #601;-w & #601;s, - > > > ch & #601;s, -sh & #601;s\ > > > > Function: adjective > > > > Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French presumptious, from > > > Late > > > > Latin praesumptuosus, irregular from praesumptio > > > > 14th century > > > > : overstepping due bounds (as of propriety or courtesy) : > taking > > > > liberties > > > > — pre·sump·tu·ous·ly adverb > > > > — pre·sump·tu·ous·ness noun > > > > > > > > When I said it was " awfully presumptuous " of you, I was saying > > that > > > > you were overstepping your bounds in making an assumption about > > > what > > > > I mean or say. It has nothing to do with my thinking I know > what > > > you > > > > will say. > > > > > > > > This is why it is best that you think before you write. Much > of > > > what > > > > you have written today is non-sensical. As an example, even > > after > > > > b.b.b. and I explained that solitaire is a card game played by > > one > > > > person, you tell him that you could play with him if he was > human. > > > > > > > > Under no circumstances could you play solitaire with > anyone...you > > > can > > > > only play it with yourself. > > > > > > > > Please go do so. > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and everyone can not recognize a joke when it is told... > > > and that is also funny... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > When you find that you are being laughed at instead of laughed > with, > > you know that the joke is not being told to you, it is you. > > > > And that iietsa, is rarely funny. > > > > Nanette > > > > you are a rear pearl... > ...iietsa > Egads! I hope you meant " rare " pearl and not " rear " pearl, as you have just told me I am a small piece of a bowel movement. iietsa...I really give up this time. Nanette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its been a while since last time so to speak... > > > > > > > > > my life-film is still on from moment to moment...but > I > > do > > > > not > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > value or importance to it...so its like it is slowly > > > > > > > > > disappearing...like a man and his world transforming > > into > > > a > > > > > > goast > > > > > > > > or a > > > > > > > > > shadow... > > > > > > > > > and the (inner) glow...who I am...without the body > (or > > > the > > > > > ego- > > > > > > > > me)...is > > > > > > > > > appearing to shine brighter and brighter...not that > it > > is > > > > > > > > so...because > > > > > > > > > it is ever full-shining.... > > > > > > > > > its more like when I cling or give values to the > > material > > > > > > > > world...those > > > > > > > > > values transforms from goasts or shadows into the > world > > > and > > > > > > > > everything.. > > > > > > > > > and this everything covers the pure light of the > Self... > > > > > > > > > and this is what is going on everywhere so to > > speak...the > > > > man > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > really awake starts dreaming...and takes the dream to > > be > > > > > > > reality... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look like a message....written for our beloved bbb... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is bbb? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's just another fiction of this your mentionned " pure > > > light > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Self " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever you do and write....it will always be for & from > > > this > > > > > your > > > > > > > Self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you train the body-it will become strong... > > > > > > > if you dont train the body-it will become weak... > > > > > > > a strong body = a body...a weak body = a body... > > > > > > > and its the same with mind...or anything... > > > > > > > ...if the body is weak...it is not enough to think or > > > say " the > > > > > body > > > > > > > is strong " ...that is only stupid....its like going to a > > > hungry > > > > > lion > > > > > > > with a piece of bread... > > > > > > > I offer only words here....nothing else... > > > > > > > words that can show you the way to the gates of > > liberation... > > > > > > > you can do what you want with the words... > > > > > > > from " liberation " they are absolutely meaningless... > > > > > > > but from bondage the can be helpful... > > > > > > > so, instead of being against what I write... > > > > > > > try to be more creative and write some helpful words to > the > > > > ones > > > > > > that > > > > > > > are not yet realized in pure freedom... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seem that you have/got a well trained mind so....for some > > > > reason.... > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not against with what you write.....i tried to show you > > > that > > > > > > there are No interests from bbb to this you > mentionned " words > > > > that > > > > > > can show the way to the gates of liberation " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > even Not...after endless exchanges and words that you > > exchanged > > > > > with > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > first of all, this Your words are mentionned to/from > > > > YourSelf....as > > > > > i > > > > > > told you....there is nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > there is No bbb, seperated to You.....to whom You need to > > give > > > > any > > > > > > precious informations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only an appearent other one....due to this your > > > working > > > > > > (trained) ego-mind > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > if there were some awareness....You would have great fun > with > > > > this > > > > > > appearent bbb....instead to get worry about anybodies " way > to > > > > > > liberation " > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point... > > > > > but as I myself used to take myself for what I am not... > > > > > lets call it...that I was blind thinking I could see... > > > > > I understand that this appearant illusion was not only on > (my) > > > > mind... > > > > > ...the one Self that is forever now...has somehow forgotten > its > > > > > core...and attuned itself to its drawings...so to speak...in > > many > > > > > places...and because of this we have what we > > > > > call...separation...duality...and when one takes oneself for > > such > > > a > > > > > part...(even if it is just a dream)...it creates the so > called > > > > > dreamer that is living a so called life...(what I try to say > is > > > > that > > > > > all is one...but in a cloudy way it is taken by the ignorant > > mind > > > > to > > > > > be many).... > > > > > I can never help another...one can only help oneself... > > > > > but if I have the repice for a fantastic cake...why not give > > the > > > > > repice (to all my friends)... > > > > > some will say...fu** the repice...I just want the cake... > > > > > but the cake is seldom tasted without knowing the repice... > > > > > (only accidentaly...as it was for me...I tasted the cake and > > > > suddenly > > > > > it was gone...no more cake left...and I had no repice)... > > > > > the recipe is all...if there is missing only one tiny > > > > > ingredient...the cake will fail...or if not all the > ingredients > > > are > > > > > treated exact the same...the cake will fail... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This your " fantastic recipe " is maybe only fantastic for You.... > > > > Means everybody enjoy other " fantastic recipe " > > > > > > > > The popes of all religions strongly believe they " got THE cake > > > recipe " > > > > One don't need to be an expert to see what is the result of > such > > > > troubles....all around the world.... > > > > means, to understand what is the nature of worldly troubles > > > > means, the non-sense of worldly behavior. > > > > > > > > Concerning duality.... > > > > There is only one possible duality. > > > > The one who is/live/dream/feel a worldly life....ignoring > his/her > > > > real nature, means changless, formless and infinite > Self....live > > in > > > > duality. > > > > > > > > The one who is aware of Self ...is free. > > > > The one who isn't, live in duality...means, isn't free. > > > > > > > > Duality happen from time to time....depending on the level of > > > > ignorance, means of ego-mind. > > > > > > > > Liberation always Is. > > > > It doesn't happen for nobody. * > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * except for special someones....who take their little > imaginary > > > ego- > > > > mind for the Self > > > > > > > > > > ...is this your own experience...or is it something you learned... > > > to me at least...the words you are using...sounds kind of > > parroting... > > > as if you have read and copied some texts from somewhere... > > > I clould of course be wrong on this one... > > > but...please...try to explain to me as if I was a ten year > old...in > > a > > > simple way...so that I can understand...the core of your > > > understanding...and please use your own words... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > it wouldn't make any sense if i would copy some words somewhere.... > > > > there are enough people doing this....and still don't understand > what > > they have read in their fantastic books....about/from whatever > > strange (pseudo) Gurus > > > > i'm using my words....and i'm talking about my perception, that's > all > > > > i don't expect anybody to completely understand what i'm writing... > > > > that is Not the reason i'm writing... > > > > (as i told you in messages before....what is the main use of > messages) > > > > .... > > > > i don't feel to make some effort....trying to write in other manner > > and words.... > > > > sorry about > > > > Marc > > > > but somehow there is an effort... > even if its a subtle effort...its there... > maby this " i don't feel to make some effort....trying to write in > other manner and words.... " are a effort to cover that there is no > real understanding? > ...iietsa > you asked to write differently, more clear....or however.... i answered you, that i will not write differently... Means, i will not make an effort specially for You....ok? The only one who could have no " real understanding " is this your little trained mind....stressed out for some reason... find out why not of my business Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its been a while since last time so to speak... > > > > > > > > > > my life-film is still on from moment to moment...but > > I > > > do > > > > > not > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > value or importance to it...so its like it is slowly > > > > > > > > > > disappearing...like a man and his world transforming > > > into > > > > a > > > > > > > goast > > > > > > > > > or a > > > > > > > > > > shadow... > > > > > > > > > > and the (inner) glow...who I am...without the body > > (or > > > > the > > > > > > ego- > > > > > > > > > me)...is > > > > > > > > > > appearing to shine brighter and brighter...not that > > it > > > is > > > > > > > > > so...because > > > > > > > > > > it is ever full-shining.... > > > > > > > > > > its more like when I cling or give values to the > > > material > > > > > > > > > world...those > > > > > > > > > > values transforms from goasts or shadows into the > > world > > > > and > > > > > > > > > everything.. > > > > > > > > > > and this everything covers the pure light of the > > Self... > > > > > > > > > > and this is what is going on everywhere so to > > > speak...the > > > > > man > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > really awake starts dreaming...and takes the dream to > > > be > > > > > > > > reality... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look like a message....written for our beloved bbb... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is bbb? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's just another fiction of this your mentionned " pure > > > > light > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Self " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever you do and write....it will always be for & from > > > > this > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > Self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you train the body-it will become strong... > > > > > > > > if you dont train the body-it will become weak... > > > > > > > > a strong body = a body...a weak body = a body... > > > > > > > > and its the same with mind...or anything... > > > > > > > > ...if the body is weak...it is not enough to think or > > > > say " the > > > > > > body > > > > > > > > is strong " ...that is only stupid....its like going to a > > > > hungry > > > > > > lion > > > > > > > > with a piece of bread... > > > > > > > > I offer only words here....nothing else... > > > > > > > > words that can show you the way to the gates of > > > liberation... > > > > > > > > you can do what you want with the words... > > > > > > > > from " liberation " they are absolutely meaningless... > > > > > > > > but from bondage the can be helpful... > > > > > > > > so, instead of being against what I write... > > > > > > > > try to be more creative and write some helpful words to > > the > > > > > ones > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > are not yet realized in pure freedom... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seem that you have/got a well trained mind so....for some > > > > > reason.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not against with what you write.....i tried to show you > > > > that > > > > > > > there are No interests from bbb to this you > > mentionned " words > > > > > that > > > > > > > can show the way to the gates of liberation " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even Not...after endless exchanges and words that you > > > exchanged > > > > > > with > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first of all, this Your words are mentionned to/from > > > > > YourSelf....as > > > > > > i > > > > > > > told you....there is nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is No bbb, seperated to You.....to whom You need to > > > give > > > > > any > > > > > > > precious informations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only an appearent other one....due to this your > > > > working > > > > > > > (trained) ego-mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if there were some awareness....You would have great fun > > with > > > > > this > > > > > > > appearent bbb....instead to get worry about anybodies " way > > to > > > > > > > liberation " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point... > > > > > > but as I myself used to take myself for what I am not... > > > > > > lets call it...that I was blind thinking I could see... > > > > > > I understand that this appearant illusion was not only on > > (my) > > > > > mind... > > > > > > ...the one Self that is forever now...has somehow forgotten > > its > > > > > > core...and attuned itself to its drawings...so to speak...in > > > many > > > > > > places...and because of this we have what we > > > > > > call...separation...duality...and when one takes oneself for > > > such > > > > a > > > > > > part...(even if it is just a dream)...it creates the so > > called > > > > > > dreamer that is living a so called life...(what I try to say > > is > > > > > that > > > > > > all is one...but in a cloudy way it is taken by the ignorant > > > mind > > > > > to > > > > > > be many).... > > > > > > I can never help another...one can only help oneself... > > > > > > but if I have the repice for a fantastic cake...why not give > > > the > > > > > > repice (to all my friends)... > > > > > > some will say...fu** the repice...I just want the cake... > > > > > > but the cake is seldom tasted without knowing the repice... > > > > > > (only accidentaly...as it was for me...I tasted the cake and > > > > > suddenly > > > > > > it was gone...no more cake left...and I had no repice)... > > > > > > the recipe is all...if there is missing only one tiny > > > > > > ingredient...the cake will fail...or if not all the > > ingredients > > > > are > > > > > > treated exact the same...the cake will fail... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This your " fantastic recipe " is maybe only fantastic for You.... > > > > > Means everybody enjoy other " fantastic recipe " > > > > > > > > > > The popes of all religions strongly believe they " got THE cake > > > > recipe " > > > > > One don't need to be an expert to see what is the result of > > such > > > > > troubles....all around the world.... > > > > > means, to understand what is the nature of worldly troubles > > > > > means, the non-sense of worldly behavior. > > > > > > > > > > Concerning duality.... > > > > > There is only one possible duality. > > > > > The one who is/live/dream/feel a worldly life....ignoring > > his/her > > > > > real nature, means changless, formless and infinite > > Self....live > > > in > > > > > duality. > > > > > > > > > > The one who is aware of Self ...is free. > > > > > The one who isn't, live in duality...means, isn't free. > > > > > > > > > > Duality happen from time to time....depending on the level of > > > > > ignorance, means of ego-mind. > > > > > > > > > > Liberation always Is. > > > > > It doesn't happen for nobody. * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * except for special someones....who take their little > > imaginary > > > > ego- > > > > > mind for the Self > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...is this your own experience...or is it something you learned... > > > > to me at least...the words you are using...sounds kind of > > > parroting... > > > > as if you have read and copied some texts from somewhere... > > > > I clould of course be wrong on this one... > > > > but...please...try to explain to me as if I was a ten year > > old...in > > > a > > > > simple way...so that I can understand...the core of your > > > > understanding...and please use your own words... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > it wouldn't make any sense if i would copy some words somewhere.... > > > > > > there are enough people doing this....and still don't understand > > what > > > they have read in their fantastic books....about/from whatever > > > strange (pseudo) Gurus > > > > > > i'm using my words....and i'm talking about my perception, that's > > all > > > > > > i don't expect anybody to completely understand what i'm writing... > > > > > > that is Not the reason i'm writing... > > > > > > (as i told you in messages before....what is the main use of > > messages) > > > > > > .... > > > > > > i don't feel to make some effort....trying to write in other manner > > > and words.... > > > > > > sorry about > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > but somehow there is an effort... > > even if its a subtle effort...its there... > > maby this " i don't feel to make some effort....trying to write in > > other manner and words.... " are a effort to cover that there is no > > real understanding? > > ...iietsa > > > no. > > you don't understand what he said at all. > > you are pathetic. > > .b b.b. > iietsa seem to have much time....to kill....lol Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 I love you all... even if it is hard to understand from some point of views... I really do... everything is absolutely beautyful... and everything is part of that same pearl... it doesnt matter if it is rare or rear or... all is one... the one I love...the one that loves...and the one that is loving... sometimes it appear as high and sometimes it appear as low... and that is the beauty of the the one...it is all colours...and none ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > I love you all... > even if it is hard to understand from some point of views... > I really do... > everything is absolutely beautyful... > and everything is part of that same pearl... > it doesnt matter if it is rare or rear or... > all is one... > the one I love...the one that loves...and the one that is loving... > sometimes it appear as high and sometimes it appear as low... > and that is the beauty of the the one...it is all colours...and none > ...iietsa you should really tell all that shit to someone who cares. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > I love you all... > > even if it is hard to understand from some point of views... > > I really do... > > everything is absolutely beautyful... > > and everything is part of that same pearl... > > it doesnt matter if it is rare or rear or... > > all is one... > > the one I love...the one that loves...and the one that is loving... > > sometimes it appear as high and sometimes it appear as low... > > and that is the beauty of the the one...it is all colours...and none > > ...iietsa > > > you should really tell all that shit to someone who cares. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > the Self care about everything.....no need to worry... iiesa just forgot.....that's all Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > I love you all... > > > even if it is hard to understand from some point of views... > > > I really do... > > > everything is absolutely beautyful... > > > and everything is part of that same pearl... > > > it doesnt matter if it is rare or rear or... > > > all is one... > > > the one I love...the one that loves...and the one that is > loving... > > > sometimes it appear as high and sometimes it appear as low... > > > and that is the beauty of the the one...it is all colours...and > none > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > you should really tell all that shit to someone who cares. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > the Self care about everything.....no need to worry... > > iiesa just forgot.....that's all > > > > Marc > its a tricky thing...how to come along...together... without the habitual stonetrowing... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I love you all... > > > > even if it is hard to understand from some point of views... > > > > I really do... > > > > everything is absolutely beautyful... > > > > and everything is part of that same pearl... > > > > it doesnt matter if it is rare or rear or... > > > > all is one... > > > > the one I love...the one that loves...and the one that is > > loving... > > > > sometimes it appear as high and sometimes it appear as low... > > > > and that is the beauty of the the one...it is all colours...and > > none > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > you should really tell all that shit to someone who cares. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > the Self care about everything.....no need to worry... > > > > iiesa just forgot.....that's all > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > its a tricky thing...how to come along...together... > without the habitual stonetrowing... > ...iietsa > stones in mind?..... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I love you all... > > > > even if it is hard to understand from some point of views... > > > > I really do... > > > > everything is absolutely beautyful... > > > > and everything is part of that same pearl... > > > > it doesnt matter if it is rare or rear or... > > > > all is one... > > > > the one I love...the one that loves...and the one that is > > loving... > > > > sometimes it appear as high and sometimes it appear as low... > > > > and that is the beauty of the the one...it is all colours...and > > none > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > you should really tell all that shit to someone who cares. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > the Self care about everything.....no need to worry... > > > > iiesa just forgot.....that's all > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > its a tricky thing...how to come along...together... > without the habitual stonetrowing... > ...iietsa no one's throwing stones. i just don't care for what you have to say. it's not much...what you have to say. i just don't care for it because it's not only not much ...it's stupid. i know you don't have the intelligence to grok that. you don't seem to understand anything. smiles and chuckles, ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I love you all... > > > > > even if it is hard to understand from some point of views... > > > > > I really do... > > > > > everything is absolutely beautyful... > > > > > and everything is part of that same pearl... > > > > > it doesnt matter if it is rare or rear or... > > > > > all is one... > > > > > the one I love...the one that loves...and the one that is > > > loving... > > > > > sometimes it appear as high and sometimes it appear as low... > > > > > and that is the beauty of the the one...it is all colours...and > > > none > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > you should really tell all that shit to someone who cares. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > the Self care about everything.....no need to worry... > > > > > > iiesa just forgot.....that's all > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > its a tricky thing...how to come along...together... > > without the habitual stonetrowing... > > ...iietsa > > > no one's throwing stones. > > i just don't care for what you have to say. > > it's not much...what you have to say. > > i just don't care for it because it's not only not much > > ..it's stupid. > > i know you don't have the intelligence to grok that. > > you don't seem to understand anything. > > smiles and chuckles, > > .b b.b. > hey hey.... less complicated please... what did you say? lol Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I love you all... > > > > > > even if it is hard to understand from some point of views... > > > > > > I really do... > > > > > > everything is absolutely beautyful... > > > > > > and everything is part of that same pearl... > > > > > > it doesnt matter if it is rare or rear or... > > > > > > all is one... > > > > > > the one I love...the one that loves...and the one that is > > > > loving... > > > > > > sometimes it appear as high and sometimes it appear as > low... > > > > > > and that is the beauty of the the one...it is all > colours...and > > > > none > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you should really tell all that shit to someone who cares. > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Self care about everything.....no need to worry... > > > > > > > > iiesa just forgot.....that's all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > its a tricky thing...how to come along...together... > > > without the habitual stonetrowing... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > no one's throwing stones. > > > > i just don't care for what you have to say. > > > > it's not much...what you have to say. > > > > i just don't care for it because it's not only not much > > > > ..it's stupid. > > > > i know you don't have the intelligence to grok that. > > > > you don't seem to understand anything. > > > > smiles and chuckles, > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > hey hey.... > > less complicated please... > > what did you say? > > lol > > Marc are you throwing stones..at ME-ME-ME?? :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I love you all... > > > > > > > even if it is hard to understand from some point of views... > > > > > > > I really do... > > > > > > > everything is absolutely beautyful... > > > > > > > and everything is part of that same pearl... > > > > > > > it doesnt matter if it is rare or rear or... > > > > > > > all is one... > > > > > > > the one I love...the one that loves...and the one that is > > > > > loving... > > > > > > > sometimes it appear as high and sometimes it appear as > > low... > > > > > > > and that is the beauty of the the one...it is all > > colours...and > > > > > none > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you should really tell all that shit to someone who cares. > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Self care about everything.....no need to worry... > > > > > > > > > > iiesa just forgot.....that's all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > its a tricky thing...how to come along...together... > > > > without the habitual stonetrowing... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > no one's throwing stones. > > > > > > i just don't care for what you have to say. > > > > > > it's not much...what you have to say. > > > > > > i just don't care for it because it's not only not much > > > > > > ..it's stupid. > > > > > > i know you don't have the intelligence to grok that. > > > > > > you don't seem to understand anything. > > > > > > smiles and chuckles, > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > hey hey.... > > > > less complicated please... > > > > what did you say? > > > > lol > > > > Marc > > > are you throwing stones..at ME-ME-ME?? > > :-) > > .b b.b. > yes yes yes.... what else i can do?! thats exacly the reason i'm here! here here here giving advises for free to the whole world... I, I and I who else?!!! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I love you all... > > > > > > > > even if it is hard to understand from some point of > views... > > > > > > > > I really do... > > > > > > > > everything is absolutely beautyful... > > > > > > > > and everything is part of that same pearl... > > > > > > > > it doesnt matter if it is rare or rear or... > > > > > > > > all is one... > > > > > > > > the one I love...the one that loves...and the one that > is > > > > > > loving... > > > > > > > > sometimes it appear as high and sometimes it appear as > > > low... > > > > > > > > and that is the beauty of the the one...it is all > > > colours...and > > > > > > none > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you should really tell all that shit to someone who cares. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Self care about everything.....no need to worry... > > > > > > > > > > > > iiesa just forgot.....that's all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its a tricky thing...how to come along...together... > > > > > without the habitual stonetrowing... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > no one's throwing stones. > > > > > > > > i just don't care for what you have to say. > > > > > > > > it's not much...what you have to say. > > > > > > > > i just don't care for it because it's not only not much > > > > > > > > ..it's stupid. > > > > > > > > i know you don't have the intelligence to grok that. > > > > > > > > you don't seem to understand anything. > > > > > > > > smiles and chuckles, > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey hey.... > > > > > > less complicated please... > > > > > > what did you say? > > > > > > lol > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > are you throwing stones..at ME-ME-ME?? > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > yes yes yes.... > > what else i can do?! > > thats exacly the reason i'm here! > > here here here > > giving advises for free to the whole world... > > I, I and I > > who else?!!! > > > > Marc > I..I...I...I-i-i-e-t-s-a...? is that you? YOU YOU YOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU? have ye been born unto us? oh good god! and.. good gravy! :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I love you all... > > > > > > > > > even if it is hard to understand from some point of > > views... > > > > > > > > > I really do... > > > > > > > > > everything is absolutely beautyful... > > > > > > > > > and everything is part of that same pearl... > > > > > > > > > it doesnt matter if it is rare or rear or... > > > > > > > > > all is one... > > > > > > > > > the one I love...the one that loves...and the one that > > is > > > > > > > loving... > > > > > > > > > sometimes it appear as high and sometimes it appear as > > > > low... > > > > > > > > > and that is the beauty of the the one...it is all > > > > colours...and > > > > > > > none > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you should really tell all that shit to someone who cares. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Self care about everything.....no need to worry... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iiesa just forgot.....that's all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its a tricky thing...how to come along...together... > > > > > > without the habitual stonetrowing... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no one's throwing stones. > > > > > > > > > > i just don't care for what you have to say. > > > > > > > > > > it's not much...what you have to say. > > > > > > > > > > i just don't care for it because it's not only not much > > > > > > > > > > ..it's stupid. > > > > > > > > > > i know you don't have the intelligence to grok that. > > > > > > > > > > you don't seem to understand anything. > > > > > > > > > > smiles and chuckles, > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey hey.... > > > > > > > > less complicated please... > > > > > > > > what did you say? > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > are you throwing stones..at ME-ME-ME?? > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > yes yes yes.... > > > > what else i can do?! > > > > thats exacly the reason i'm here! > > > > here here here > > > > giving advises for free to the whole world... > > > > I, I and I > > > > who else?!!! > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > I..I...I...I-i-i-e-t-s-a...? > > is that you? > > YOU YOU YOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU? > > have ye been born unto us? > > oh good god! > > and.. > > good gravy! > > :-) > > .b b.b. > now, that you remind ME who i'm not... I felt some love....for all this loving people all around the world...it's sooo beautiful... I AM enlightened again, now....All Is of this My only One Ignorance.... lol Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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