Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > We have all heard that sensory deprivation > > > if prolonged for days, is a form of torture > > > used to brainwash prisoners. Well, that > > > should tell us that the brain can't stay with > > > the immutable. It was evolved to perceive > > > sensations and change, and needs them to > > > function. So, we cannot know our true > > > nature, just feel it, and let it go. That > > > is not bad. We are healthy most of the time > > > and we don't even notice feeling healthy, > > > or feeling alive. The brain is not built to > > > keep in focus monotones. > > > > > > Pete > > > > > Namaste, > > > > Meditation is sensory deprivation........> > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > We have all heard that sensory deprivation > > > if prolonged for days, is a form of torture > > > used to brainwash prisoners. Well, that > > > should tell us that the brain can't stay with > > > the immutable. It was evolved to perceive > > > sensations and change, and needs them to > > > function. So, we cannot know our true > > > nature, just feel it, and let it go. That > > > is not bad. We are healthy most of the time > > > and we don't even notice feeling healthy, > > > or feeling alive. The brain is not built to > > > keep in focus monotones. > > > > > > Pete > > > > > Namaste, > > > > Meditation is sensory deprivation........> > > nah.. > > when one claims to be meditating.. > > one is so into oneself as to ever be considered to be.. > > deprived of ANY of those putrid things which only seem to be.. > > all about....above and below...around and through.. > > includin' but not limited to.. > > 'self' aggrandizing stuff like meditatin' and so forth. > > s'matter 'a fact.. > > it's the biggest show in town.. > > and the biggest swindle in the universe. > > the TRUTH is vastly grander. > > so anyway i submit that as long as there is perceived to be.. > > an entity which considered as a 'who'.. > > is somewhere around and can 'do' this meditation stuff.. > > the whole premise is screwed up. > > reminds me of the ghostly catechism stories of the nuns years ago. > > fun stuff! > > thanks, > > .b b.b. > Meditation IS the stuff and stuffing of one's life... one doesn't *meditate* one IS the meditation...at least until one gives up the ghost, so to speak. :-) ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > We have all heard that sensory deprivation > > > > if prolonged for days, is a form of torture > > > > used to brainwash prisoners. Well, that > > > > should tell us that the brain can't stay with > > > > the immutable. It was evolved to perceive > > > > sensations and change, and needs them to > > > > function. So, we cannot know our true > > > > nature, just feel it, and let it go. That > > > > is not bad. We are healthy most of the time > > > > and we don't even notice feeling healthy, > > > > or feeling alive. The brain is not built to > > > > keep in focus monotones. > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Meditation is sensory deprivation........> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > We have all heard that sensory deprivation > > > > if prolonged for days, is a form of torture > > > > used to brainwash prisoners. Well, that > > > > should tell us that the brain can't stay with > > > > the immutable. It was evolved to perceive > > > > sensations and change, and needs them to > > > > function. So, we cannot know our true > > > > nature, just feel it, and let it go. That > > > > is not bad. We are healthy most of the time > > > > and we don't even notice feeling healthy, > > > > or feeling alive. The brain is not built to > > > > keep in focus monotones. > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Meditation is sensory deprivation........> > > > > > nah.. > > > > when one claims to be meditating.. > > > > one is so into oneself as to ever be considered to be.. > > > > deprived of ANY of those putrid things which only seem to be.. > > > > all about....above and below...around and through.. > > > > includin' but not limited to.. > > > > 'self' aggrandizing stuff like meditatin' and so forth. > > > > s'matter 'a fact.. > > > > it's the biggest show in town.. > > > > and the biggest swindle in the universe. > > > > the TRUTH is vastly grander. > > > > so anyway i submit that as long as there is perceived to be.. > > > > an entity which considered as a 'who'.. > > > > is somewhere around and can 'do' this meditation stuff.. > > > > the whole premise is screwed up. > > > > reminds me of the ghostly catechism stories of the nuns years ago. > > > > fun stuff! > > > > thanks, > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Meditation IS the stuff and stuffing of one's life... one doesn't > *meditate* one IS the meditation...at least until one gives up the > ghost, so to speak. :-) > > > ~A who is the one who gives up the ghost? who's ghost does the 'who' which is the ghost with the ghost.. give up? and to what? sounds like the ghost with the most. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > We have all heard that sensory deprivation > > > > > if prolonged for days, is a form of torture > > > > > used to brainwash prisoners. Well, that > > > > > should tell us that the brain can't stay with > > > > > the immutable. It was evolved to perceive > > > > > sensations and change, and needs them to > > > > > function. So, we cannot know our true > > > > > nature, just feel it, and let it go. That > > > > > is not bad. We are healthy most of the time > > > > > and we don't even notice feeling healthy, > > > > > or feeling alive. The brain is not built to > > > > > keep in focus monotones. > > > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Meditation is sensory deprivation........> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > We have all heard that sensory deprivation > > > > > if prolonged for days, is a form of torture > > > > > used to brainwash prisoners. Well, that > > > > > should tell us that the brain can't stay with > > > > > the immutable. It was evolved to perceive > > > > > sensations and change, and needs them to > > > > > function. So, we cannot know our true > > > > > nature, just feel it, and let it go. That > > > > > is not bad. We are healthy most of the time > > > > > and we don't even notice feeling healthy, > > > > > or feeling alive. The brain is not built to > > > > > keep in focus monotones. > > > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Meditation is sensory deprivation........> > > > > > > > > nah.. > > > > > > when one claims to be meditating.. > > > > > > one is so into oneself as to ever be considered to be.. > > > > > > deprived of ANY of those putrid things which only seem to be.. > > > > > > all about....above and below...around and through.. > > > > > > includin' but not limited to.. > > > > > > 'self' aggrandizing stuff like meditatin' and so forth. > > > > > > s'matter 'a fact.. > > > > > > it's the biggest show in town.. > > > > > > and the biggest swindle in the universe. > > > > > > the TRUTH is vastly grander. > > > > > > so anyway i submit that as long as there is perceived to be.. > > > > > > an entity which considered as a 'who'.. > > > > > > is somewhere around and can 'do' this meditation stuff.. > > > > > > the whole premise is screwed up. > > > > > > reminds me of the ghostly catechism stories of the nuns years ago. > > > > > > fun stuff! > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > Meditation IS the stuff and stuffing of one's life... one doesn't > > *meditate* one IS the meditation...at least until one gives up the > > ghost, so to speak. :-) > > > > > > ~A > > > who is the one who gives up the ghost? > > who's ghost does the 'who' which is the ghost with the ghost.. > > give up? > > and to what? > > sounds like the ghost with the most. > > .b b.b. > Sometimes there's not much one can say that makes any sense, eh? Love ya. .b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > We have all heard that sensory deprivation > > > > > > if prolonged for days, is a form of torture > > > > > > used to brainwash prisoners. Well, that > > > > > > should tell us that the brain can't stay with > > > > > > the immutable. It was evolved to perceive > > > > > > sensations and change, and needs them to > > > > > > function. So, we cannot know our true > > > > > > nature, just feel it, and let it go. That > > > > > > is not bad. We are healthy most of the time > > > > > > and we don't even notice feeling healthy, > > > > > > or feeling alive. The brain is not built to > > > > > > keep in focus monotones. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > Meditation is sensory deprivation........> > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > We have all heard that sensory deprivation > > > > > > if prolonged for days, is a form of torture > > > > > > used to brainwash prisoners. Well, that > > > > > > should tell us that the brain can't stay with > > > > > > the immutable. It was evolved to perceive > > > > > > sensations and change, and needs them to > > > > > > function. So, we cannot know our true > > > > > > nature, just feel it, and let it go. That > > > > > > is not bad. We are healthy most of the time > > > > > > and we don't even notice feeling healthy, > > > > > > or feeling alive. The brain is not built to > > > > > > keep in focus monotones. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > Meditation is sensory deprivation........> > > > > > > > > > > > nah.. > > > > > > > > when one claims to be meditating.. > > > > > > > > one is so into oneself as to ever be considered to be.. > > > > > > > > deprived of ANY of those putrid things which only seem to be.. > > > > > > > > all about....above and below...around and through.. > > > > > > > > includin' but not limited to.. > > > > > > > > 'self' aggrandizing stuff like meditatin' and so forth. > > > > > > > > s'matter 'a fact.. > > > > > > > > it's the biggest show in town.. > > > > > > > > and the biggest swindle in the universe. > > > > > > > > the TRUTH is vastly grander. > > > > > > > > so anyway i submit that as long as there is perceived to be.. > > > > > > > > an entity which considered as a 'who'.. > > > > > > > > is somewhere around and can 'do' this meditation stuff.. > > > > > > > > the whole premise is screwed up. > > > > > > > > reminds me of the ghostly catechism stories of the nuns years ago. > > > > > > > > fun stuff! > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meditation IS the stuff and stuffing of one's life... one doesn't > > > *meditate* one IS the meditation...at least until one gives up the > > > ghost, so to speak. :-) > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > who is the one who gives up the ghost? > > > > who's ghost does the 'who' which is the ghost with the ghost.. > > > > give up? > > > > and to what? > > > > sounds like the ghost with the most. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Sometimes there's not much one can say that makes any sense, eh? > > Love ya. .b b.b. > so where " Is " this meditation....you talked about? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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