Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Namaste, I am sending this from another group as it is the result of a personal post on the futility and deception of Hope........Cheers Tony. advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: GuruRatings , " simon " <sweetseasons@> wrote: > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " sweetseasons@ wrote: > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > the now. > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > no obvious connection to fear. > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > there, you can see 'it'. > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > after reading your words ;-) > > [=;] Namaste, You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you haven't examined fear. Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold climate, clean your teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process of existence is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what is desired coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is all very good for motivating salesmen and for people deluding themselves but the very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism for people seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: GuruRatings , " simon " <sweetseasons@> wrote: > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " sweetseasons@ wrote: > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > the now. > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > no obvious connection to fear. > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > there, you can see 'it'. > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > after reading your words ;-) > > [=;] > Namaste, You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you haven't examined fear. Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold climate, clean your teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process of existence is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what is desired coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is all very good for motivating salesmen and for people deluding themselves but the very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism for people seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: GuruRatings , " simon " <sweetseasons@> wrote: > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " sweetseasons@ wrote: > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > the now. > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > no obvious connection to fear. > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > there, you can see 'it'. > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > after reading your words ;-) > > [=;] > Namaste, You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you haven't examined fear. Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold climate, clean your teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process of existence is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what is desired coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is all very good for motivating salesmen and for people deluding themselves but the very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism for people seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. --- End forwarded message --- --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > GuruRatings , " simon " <sweetseasons@> wrote: > > > > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " sweetseasons@ wrote: > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > > there, you can see 'it'. > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > [=;] > > > Namaste, > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you haven't examined > fear. > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold climate, clean your > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process of existence > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what is desired > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is all very good > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding themselves but the > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism for people > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > --- End forwarded message --- > > --- End forwarded message --- > indeed. hoping is seeking hope is only positive fear. fear is but love unrealised. love is realisation Mark Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " <sweetseasons@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " sweetseasons@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > Namaste, > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you haven't examined > > fear. > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold climate, clean > your > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process of > existence > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what is desired > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is all very good > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding themselves but the > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism for people > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > indeed. > hoping is seeking > hope is only positive fear. > fear is but love unrealised. > love is realisation > > Mark > > > Mark indeed. the world is filled with lovesick puppies. or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. in a realization sort of way. picking little petals from zuzu's flower: realization loves me...realization loves me not.. realization is love...love is realization. oh golly this is fun! :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " <sweetseasons@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " sweetseasons@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you haven't examined > > > fear. > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold climate, clean > > your > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process of > > existence > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what is desired > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is all very good > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding themselves but the > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism for people > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > indeed. > > hoping is seeking > > hope is only positive fear. > > fear is but love unrealised. > > love is realisation > > > > Mark > > > > > > Mark > > > indeed. > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > in a realization sort of way. > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > realization is love...love is realization. > > oh golly this is fun! > > :-) > > .b b.b. > and then of course love is also dogshit where did I put that damn pooper scooper? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 When you die to this world, you walk without fear or hope. The past and future do not matter. You know that when you die you go to a better place and the ego does not matter, so fear does not exist. When you surrender everything, ego, attachment to things of this world, nothing in this dimension matters. You connect with home and that is where you find your strength. But, it can be a hard process coming to that surrender. Sometimes it can be a choice between physical death or keeping a sacred contract. k - Tony OClery Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:41 PM Fwd: Re: The main problem is actually HOPE Namaste,I am sending this from another group as it is the result of a personal post on the futility and deception of Hope........Cheers Tony.advaitajnana , "Tony OClery" <aoclery wrote:GuruRatings , "Tony OClery" <aoclery@> wrote:GuruRatings , "simon" <sweetseasons@> wrote:>> > GuruRatings , "olodumare_4all"> <olodumare_4all@> wrote:> >> > GuruRatings , "simon" sweetseasons@ wrote:> >> > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you> > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in> > > the now.> > >> > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than> > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear> > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist.> > >> > > Praise the lord..> >> > *_* That's probably right.> >> > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all> > physical bodies by getting them on high alert> > and providing a great surge of energy, but> > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it> > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love> > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having> > no obvious connection to fear.> > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system.> > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/>> I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself,> in truth. May have done! Though not sure..> > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right'> there, you can see 'it'.> Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer> after reading your words ;-)> > [=;]Namaste,You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you haven't examined fear. Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold climate, clean your teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process of existence is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now.Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what is desired coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is all very good for motivating salesmen and for people deluding themselves but the very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism for people seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " <sweetseasons@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " sweetseasons@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you haven't > examined > > > > fear. > > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive > > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold climate, clean > > > your > > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process of > > > existence > > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. > > > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what is > desired > > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is all very > good > > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding themselves but > the > > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism for > people > > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > indeed. > > > hoping is seeking > > > hope is only positive fear. > > > fear is but love unrealised. > > > love is realisation > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > indeed. > > > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > > > in a realization sort of way. > > > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > > > realization is love...love is realization. > > > > oh golly this is fun! > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > and then of course love is also dogshit > where did I put that damn pooper scooper? > Mark oh pick it up with your hands little darling. it's only love. love is realization. so grab it..... and squeeze and squish your hands together. soon you'll realize what is what i guarantee. you'll love it too. you'll even feel dirty in the morning. before enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. after enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. enlightening experience of picking dogshit up with your hands.. has made you realize how stinky and dumb a thing that is to do. you won't seek to do that again soon. that would be like hoping to do it again. a positively fearful thing there indeed! but that's just love unrealized. it's all dogshit you might say. scoop up some love today! LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " <sweetseasons@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " sweetseasons@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > > > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > > > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > > > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you haven't > > examined > > > > > fear. > > > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive > > > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold climate, clean > > > > your > > > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process of > > > > existence > > > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. > > > > > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what is > > desired > > > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is all very > > good > > > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding themselves but > > the > > > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism for > > people > > > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > hoping is seeking > > > > hope is only positive fear. > > > > fear is but love unrealised. > > > > love is realisation > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > > > > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > > > > > in a realization sort of way. > > > > > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > > > > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > > > > > realization is love...love is realization. > > > > > > oh golly this is fun! > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > and then of course love is also dogshit > > where did I put that damn pooper scooper? > > Mark > > > oh pick it up with your hands little darling. > > it's only love. > > love is realization. > > so grab it..... and squeeze and squish your hands together. > > soon you'll realize what is what i guarantee. > > you'll love it too. > > you'll even feel dirty in the morning. > > before enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > after enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > enlightening experience of picking dogshit up with your hands.. > > has made you realize how stinky and dumb a thing that is to do. > > you won't seek to do that again soon. > > that would be like hoping to do it again. > > a positively fearful thing there indeed! > > but that's just love unrealized. > > it's all dogshit you might say. > > scoop up some love today! > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > shithead your wrath and disdain is ego. " your words are the only true words' trip you have going there is ego. and then of course we have your guartantee which is ego. Let's call it egoshit. You are the love you idiot your word " IS " is love which is also a word for IS. Do you get it loveshit? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " > <aoclery@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " > <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " <sweetseasons@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > sweetseasons@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > > > > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > > > > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > > > > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you haven't > > > examined > > > > > > fear. > > > > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive > > > > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold climate, > clean > > > > > your > > > > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process of > > > > > existence > > > > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what is > > > desired > > > > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is all > very > > > good > > > > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding themselves > but > > > the > > > > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism for > > > people > > > > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > hoping is seeking > > > > > hope is only positive fear. > > > > > fear is but love unrealised. > > > > > love is realisation > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > > > > > > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > > > > > > > in a realization sort of way. > > > > > > > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > > > > > > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > > > > > > > realization is love...love is realization. > > > > > > > > oh golly this is fun! > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > and then of course love is also dogshit > > > where did I put that damn pooper scooper? > > > Mark > > > > > > oh pick it up with your hands little darling. > > > > it's only love. > > > > love is realization. > > > > so grab it..... and squeeze and squish your hands together. > > > > soon you'll realize what is what i guarantee. > > > > you'll love it too. > > > > you'll even feel dirty in the morning. > > > > before enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > after enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > enlightening experience of picking dogshit up with your hands.. > > > > has made you realize how stinky and dumb a thing that is to do. > > > > you won't seek to do that again soon. > > > > that would be like hoping to do it again. > > > > a positively fearful thing there indeed! > > > > but that's just love unrealized. > > > > it's all dogshit you might say. > > > > scoop up some love today! > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > shithead > your wrath and disdain is ego. > " your words are the only true words' trip you have going there is > ego. and then of course we have your guartantee which is ego. > Let's call it egoshit. > > You are the love you idiot > your word " IS " is love which is also a word for IS. > Do you get it loveshit? > > Mark :-) i not only get it.. i provoked it. your yelping gift of love comes through the voice of.. your reactionary childishness... and your instinctive dumb animal nature. sweet kid! patty cake..patty cake.. 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Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " > > <aoclery@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " <sweetseasons@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > sweetseasons@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > > > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > > > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > > > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > > > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > > > > > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > > > > > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > > > > > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you haven't > > > > examined > > > > > > > fear. > > > > > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive > > > > > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold climate, > > clean > > > > > > your > > > > > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process of > > > > > > existence > > > > > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what is > > > > desired > > > > > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is all > > very > > > > good > > > > > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding themselves > > but > > > > the > > > > > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism for > > > > people > > > > > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > hoping is seeking > > > > > > hope is only positive fear. > > > > > > fear is but love unrealised. > > > > > > love is realisation > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > > > > > > > > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > > > > > > > > > in a realization sort of way. > > > > > > > > > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > > > > > > > > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > > > > > > > > > realization is love...love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > oh golly this is fun! > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > and then of course love is also dogshit > > > > where did I put that damn pooper scooper? > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > oh pick it up with your hands little darling. > > > > > > it's only love. > > > > > > love is realization. > > > > > > so grab it..... and squeeze and squish your hands together. > > > > > > soon you'll realize what is what i guarantee. > > > > > > you'll love it too. > > > > > > you'll even feel dirty in the morning. > > > > > > before enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > after enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > enlightening experience of picking dogshit up with your hands.. > > > > > > has made you realize how stinky and dumb a thing that is to do. > > > > > > you won't seek to do that again soon. > > > > > > that would be like hoping to do it again. > > > > > > a positively fearful thing there indeed! > > > > > > but that's just love unrealized. > > > > > > it's all dogshit you might say. > > > > > > scoop up some love today! > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > shithead > > your wrath and disdain is ego. > > " your words are the only true words' trip you have going there is > > ego. and then of course we have your guartantee which is ego. > > Let's call it egoshit. > > > > You are the love you idiot > > your word " IS " is love which is also a word for IS. > > Do you get it loveshit? > > > > Mark > > > :-) > > i not only get it.. > > i provoked it. > > your yelping gift of love comes through the voice of.. > > your reactionary childishness... > > and your instinctive dumb animal nature. > > sweet kid! > > patty cake..patty cake.. > > ROFL! > > .b b.b. > > p.s. > > hey snookums.. > > is you IS.... or IS you ain't.... my baby? > > c'mon m'boy..who loves ya baby? > > hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa! > well baby, postiing is reactionary by it's nature. so be careful what you separate your self from Telly. 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Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > <sweetseasons@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > > > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > sweetseasons@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > > > > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > > > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > > > > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > > > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > > > > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > > > > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > > > > > > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > > > > > > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > > > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > > > > > > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you > haven't > > > > > examined > > > > > > > > fear. > > > > > > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive > > > > > > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold > climate, > > > clean > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process > of > > > > > > > existence > > > > > > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what > is > > > > > desired > > > > > > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is > all > > > very > > > > > good > > > > > > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding > themselves > > > but > > > > > the > > > > > > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism > for > > > > > people > > > > > > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > hoping is seeking > > > > > > > hope is only positive fear. > > > > > > > fear is but love unrealised. > > > > > > > love is realisation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > > > > > > > > > > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > in a realization sort of way. > > > > > > > > > > > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > > > > > > > > > > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > realization is love...love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > oh golly this is fun! > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > and then of course love is also dogshit > > > > > where did I put that damn pooper scooper? > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > oh pick it up with your hands little darling. > > > > > > > > it's only love. > > > > > > > > love is realization. > > > > > > > > so grab it..... and squeeze and squish your hands together. > > > > > > > > soon you'll realize what is what i guarantee. > > > > > > > > you'll love it too. > > > > > > > > you'll even feel dirty in the morning. > > > > > > > > before enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > > > after enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > > > enlightening experience of picking dogshit up with your hands.. > > > > > > > > has made you realize how stinky and dumb a thing that is to do. > > > > > > > > you won't seek to do that again soon. > > > > > > > > that would be like hoping to do it again. > > > > > > > > a positively fearful thing there indeed! > > > > > > > > but that's just love unrealized. > > > > > > > > it's all dogshit you might say. > > > > > > > > scoop up some love today! > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > shithead > > > your wrath and disdain is ego. > > > " your words are the only true words' trip you have going there is > > > ego. and then of course we have your guartantee which is ego. > > > Let's call it egoshit. > > > > > > You are the love you idiot > > > your word " IS " is love which is also a word for IS. > > > Do you get it loveshit? > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > :-) > > > > i not only get it.. > > > > i provoked it. > > > > your yelping gift of love comes through the voice of.. > > > > your reactionary childishness... > > > > and your instinctive dumb animal nature. > > > > sweet kid! > > > > patty cake..patty cake.. > > > > ROFL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > p.s. > > > > hey snookums.. > > > > is you IS.... or IS you ain't.... my baby? > > > > c'mon m'boy..who loves ya baby? > > > > hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > well baby, postiing is reactionary by it's nature. > so be careful what you separate your self from Telly. > Mark > who's trying to separate from what? you sound dozy. did you just get up from your nappy? there there then... in a few minutes you'll be right up and at 'em again... realizing love...or loving realizing stuff...or.. um...seeing that 'hoping is seeking'.. and uh..that 'hope is only positive fear'.. so therefore and thereby let it be sounded throughout the land: ' fear is but love unrealised... love is realisation'. what twaddle! love, ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > <sweetseasons@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > > > > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > > sweetseasons@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > > > > > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > > > > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > > > > > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > > > > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > > > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > > > > > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > > > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > > > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > > > > > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > > > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > > > > > > > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > > > > > > > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > > > > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > > > > > > > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you > > haven't > > > > > > examined > > > > > > > > > fear. > > > > > > > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive > > > > > > > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold > > climate, > > > > clean > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process > > of > > > > > > > > existence > > > > > > > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what > > is > > > > > > desired > > > > > > > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is > > all > > > > very > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding > > themselves > > > > but > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism > > for > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > hoping is seeking > > > > > > > > hope is only positive fear. > > > > > > > > fear is but love unrealised. > > > > > > > > love is realisation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a realization sort of way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization is love...love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh golly this is fun! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then of course love is also dogshit > > > > > > where did I put that damn pooper scooper? > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh pick it up with your hands little darling. > > > > > > > > > > it's only love. > > > > > > > > > > love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > so grab it..... and squeeze and squish your hands together. > > > > > > > > > > soon you'll realize what is what i guarantee. > > > > > > > > > > you'll love it too. > > > > > > > > > > you'll even feel dirty in the morning. > > > > > > > > > > before enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > > > > > after enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > > > > > enlightening experience of picking dogshit up with your hands.. > > > > > > > > > > has made you realize how stinky and dumb a thing that is to do. > > > > > > > > > > you won't seek to do that again soon. > > > > > > > > > > that would be like hoping to do it again. > > > > > > > > > > a positively fearful thing there indeed! > > > > > > > > > > but that's just love unrealized. > > > > > > > > > > it's all dogshit you might say. > > > > > > > > > > scoop up some love today! > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > shithead > > > > your wrath and disdain is ego. > > > > " your words are the only true words' trip you have going there is > > > > ego. and then of course we have your guartantee which is ego. > > > > Let's call it egoshit. > > > > > > > > You are the love you idiot > > > > your word " IS " is love which is also a word for IS. > > > > Do you get it loveshit? > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > i not only get it.. > > > > > > i provoked it. > > > > > > your yelping gift of love comes through the voice of.. > > > > > > your reactionary childishness... > > > > > > and your instinctive dumb animal nature. > > > > > > sweet kid! > > > > > > patty cake..patty cake.. > > > > > > ROFL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > hey snookums.. > > > > > > is you IS.... or IS you ain't.... my baby? > > > > > > c'mon m'boy..who loves ya baby? > > > > > > hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > well baby, postiing is reactionary by it's nature. > > so be careful what you separate your self from Telly. > > Mark > > > who's trying to separate from what? > > you sound dozy. > > did you just get up from your nappy? > > there there then... > > in a few minutes you'll be right up and at 'em again... > > realizing love...or loving realizing stuff...or.. > > um...seeing that 'hoping is seeking'.. > > and uh..that 'hope is only positive fear'.. > > so therefore and thereby let it be sounded throughout the land: > ' > fear is but love unrealised... > > love is realisation'. > > what twaddle! > > love, > > .b b.b. > you separating from me love. you are very hung up on words aren't you? why is that,do they mean something to you? that being the case however it is rather pointless for me to enlighten your narrow minded ego. 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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > <sweetseasons@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > > > > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > > sweetseasons@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > > > > > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > > > > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > > > > > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > > > > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > > > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > > > > > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > > > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > > > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > > > > > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > > > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > > > > > > > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > > > > > > > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > > > > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > > > > > > > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you > > haven't > > > > > > examined > > > > > > > > > fear. > > > > > > > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive > > > > > > > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold > > climate, > > > > clean > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process > > of > > > > > > > > existence > > > > > > > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what > > is > > > > > > desired > > > > > > > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is > > all > > > > very > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding > > themselves > > > > but > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism > > for > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > hoping is seeking > > > > > > > > hope is only positive fear. > > > > > > > > fear is but love unrealised. > > > > > > > > love is realisation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a realization sort of way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization is love...love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh golly this is fun! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then of course love is also dogshit > > > > > > where did I put that damn pooper scooper? > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh pick it up with your hands little darling. > > > > > > > > > > it's only love. > > > > > > > > > > love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > so grab it..... and squeeze and squish your hands together. > > > > > > > > > > soon you'll realize what is what i guarantee. > > > > > > > > > > you'll love it too. > > > > > > > > > > you'll even feel dirty in the morning. > > > > > > > > > > before enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > > > > > after enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > > > > > enlightening experience of picking dogshit up with your hands.. > > > > > > > > > > has made you realize how stinky and dumb a thing that is to do. > > > > > > > > > > you won't seek to do that again soon. > > > > > > > > > > that would be like hoping to do it again. > > > > > > > > > > a positively fearful thing there indeed! > > > > > > > > > > but that's just love unrealized. > > > > > > > > > > it's all dogshit you might say. > > > > > > > > > > scoop up some love today! > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > shithead > > > > your wrath and disdain is ego. > > > > " your words are the only true words' trip you have going there is > > > > ego. and then of course we have your guartantee which is ego. > > > > Let's call it egoshit. > > > > > > > > You are the love you idiot > > > > your word " IS " is love which is also a word for IS. > > > > Do you get it loveshit? > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > i not only get it.. > > > > > > i provoked it. > > > > > > your yelping gift of love comes through the voice of.. > > > > > > your reactionary childishness... > > > > > > and your instinctive dumb animal nature. > > > > > > sweet kid! > > > > > > patty cake..patty cake.. > > > > > > ROFL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > hey snookums.. > > > > > > is you IS.... or IS you ain't.... my baby? > > > > > > c'mon m'boy..who loves ya baby? > > > > > > hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > well baby, postiing is reactionary by it's nature. > > so be careful what you separate your self from Telly. > > Mark > > > who's trying to separate from what? > > you sound dozy. > > did you just get up from your nappy? > > there there then... > > in a few minutes you'll be right up and at 'em again... > > realizing love...or loving realizing stuff...or.. > > um...seeing that 'hoping is seeking'.. > > and uh..that 'hope is only positive fear'.. > > so therefore and thereby let it be sounded throughout the land: > ' > fear is but love unrealised... > > love is realisation'. > > what twaddle! > > love, > > .b b.b. > that is to say all words are twaddle. absolute. do you like that word? 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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " <sweetseasons@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " sweetseasons@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If you > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer than > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, myself, > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, and 'right' > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the clearer > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you haven't examined > > > fear. > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated reactive > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold climate, clean > > your > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole process of > > existence > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the now. > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining what is desired > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that is all very good > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding themselves but the > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure mechanism for people > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > indeed. > > hoping is seeking > > hope is only positive fear. > > fear is but love unrealised. > > love is realisation > > > > Mark > > > > > > Mark > > > indeed. > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > in a realization sort of way. > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > realization is love...love is realization. > > oh golly this is fun! > > :-) > > .b b.b. > the one who can't see the whole world as realised, enlightened, etc......is trying to overcome some fears with " love " .... but there is also a Life...after " love " .... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > <sweetseasons@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > > > > > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > > > sweetseasons@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > > > > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > > > > > > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > > > > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > > > > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > > > > > > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > > > > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, > myself, > > > > > > > > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, > and 'right' > > > > > > > > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the > clearer > > > > > > > > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you > > > haven't > > > > > > > examined > > > > > > > > > > fear. > > > > > > > > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated > reactive > > > > > > > > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold > > > climate, > > > > > clean > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole > process > > > of > > > > > > > > > existence > > > > > > > > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining > what > > > is > > > > > > > desired > > > > > > > > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that > is > > > all > > > > > very > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding > > > themselves > > > > > but > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure > mechanism > > > for > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > hoping is seeking > > > > > > > > > hope is only positive fear. > > > > > > > > > fear is but love unrealised. > > > > > > > > > love is realisation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a realization sort of way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization is love...love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh golly this is fun! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then of course love is also dogshit > > > > > > > where did I put that damn pooper scooper? > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh pick it up with your hands little darling. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's only love. > > > > > > > > > > > > love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > so grab it..... and squeeze and squish your hands together. > > > > > > > > > > > > soon you'll realize what is what i guarantee. > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll love it too. > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll even feel dirty in the morning. > > > > > > > > > > > > before enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > > > > > > > after enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightening experience of picking dogshit up with your > hands.. > > > > > > > > > > > > has made you realize how stinky and dumb a thing that is to > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > you won't seek to do that again soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > that would be like hoping to do it again. > > > > > > > > > > > > a positively fearful thing there indeed! > > > > > > > > > > > > but that's just love unrealized. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all dogshit you might say. > > > > > > > > > > > > scoop up some love today! > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shithead > > > > > your wrath and disdain is ego. > > > > > " your words are the only true words' trip you have going > there is > > > > > ego. and then of course we have your guartantee which is ego. > > > > > Let's call it egoshit. > > > > > > > > > > You are the love you idiot > > > > > your word " IS " is love which is also a word for IS. > > > > > Do you get it loveshit? > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > i not only get it.. > > > > > > > > i provoked it. > > > > > > > > your yelping gift of love comes through the voice of.. > > > > > > > > your reactionary childishness... > > > > > > > > and your instinctive dumb animal nature. > > > > > > > > sweet kid! > > > > > > > > patty cake..patty cake.. > > > > > > > > ROFL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > hey snookums.. > > > > > > > > is you IS.... or IS you ain't.... my baby? > > > > > > > > c'mon m'boy..who loves ya baby? > > > > > > > > hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > well baby, postiing is reactionary by it's nature. > > > so be careful what you separate your self from Telly. > > > Mark > > > > > who's trying to separate from what? > > > > you sound dozy. > > > > did you just get up from your nappy? > > > > there there then... > > > > in a few minutes you'll be right up and at 'em again... > > > > realizing love...or loving realizing stuff...or.. > > > > um...seeing that 'hoping is seeking'.. > > > > and uh..that 'hope is only positive fear'.. > > > > so therefore and thereby let it be sounded throughout the land: > > ' > > fear is but love unrealised... > > > > love is realisation'. > > > > what twaddle! > > > > love, > > > > .b b.b. > > >[mark]: >you separating from me love. [.b b.b.]: you give me powers that i do don't possess. no one can separate 'you' from anything else. what's to separate? you place far to much importance on yourself.. and your imaginary 'relationship' with your 'world'. it's not the world according to 'me'-man mark... and love. you are not that special markie. >[mark]: you are very hung up on words aren't you? [.b b.b.]: and you abuse words through your misuse of them. so what? this fascination with words.. indicates that you place too much importance on the little buggers. why are you so hung up on them? do you feel intimidated or ignorant in adult conversation? this will pass marky. >[mark]: why is that,do they mean something to you? [.b b.b.]: is this important for you to know? you never will know. if i say no..you'll say i lie. if i say yes..you'll follow up with another 'why'?: sorta like: (mark) " why are they important to you? " .. (.b b.b.)....(explain explain explain) (mark) " why does that explanation give you reason to believe.. that words are therefore important? " (.b b.b.)...(explain... explain..explain) (mark) " why should i believe you that that is the reason.. that gives you the reason for believing that words.. are important to you? " .... and on and on and on and on................ so you see markie.. talking to you is like talking to a two by four. or like speaking to a child who never stops asking 'why?'. " reasons " as you understand them do not exist. it's hard giving up belief in santa and fairies and the easter bunny. but it's inevitable that you will my child.. and you will also have to.. give up belief in these continuing brain farts of yours. rest assured though it will all arrive naturally when you mature. you don't need faith hope or charity. it's what it is and it is the way truth and life. i'd say bless you but you wouldn't believe me.. and besides my blessing (like all blessings) isn't worth the breath. so i won't say that. [mark]: > that being the case however it is rather pointless > for me to enlighten your narrow minded ego. > Mark [.b b.b.]: now see here markie.. if you believe that 'you' can enlighten ANYONE..including yourself.. do not go on and call others 'narrow minded ego'. for chrissake dude..can't you see how ridiculous that is? ok mr. non-Ego Master Enlightener.. you truly are a dumb ass. putting yourself out there like that with such stupidity.. that takes guts. so you're a brave dumbass who doesn't mind it being pointed out. that's truly pointless but that's our little mark. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > <sweetseasons@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > > > > > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > > > sweetseasons@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > > > > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > > > > > > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > > > > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > > > > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > > > > > > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > > > > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, > myself, > > > > > > > > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, > and 'right' > > > > > > > > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the > clearer > > > > > > > > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you > > > haven't > > > > > > > examined > > > > > > > > > > fear. > > > > > > > > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated > reactive > > > > > > > > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold > > > climate, > > > > > clean > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole > process > > > of > > > > > > > > > existence > > > > > > > > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining > what > > > is > > > > > > > desired > > > > > > > > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that > is > > > all > > > > > very > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding > > > themselves > > > > > but > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure > mechanism > > > for > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > hoping is seeking > > > > > > > > > hope is only positive fear. > > > > > > > > > fear is but love unrealised. > > > > > > > > > love is realisation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a realization sort of way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization is love...love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh golly this is fun! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then of course love is also dogshit > > > > > > > where did I put that damn pooper scooper? > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh pick it up with your hands little darling. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's only love. > > > > > > > > > > > > love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > so grab it..... and squeeze and squish your hands together. > > > > > > > > > > > > soon you'll realize what is what i guarantee. > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll love it too. > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll even feel dirty in the morning. > > > > > > > > > > > > before enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > > > > > > > after enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightening experience of picking dogshit up with your > hands.. > > > > > > > > > > > > has made you realize how stinky and dumb a thing that is to > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > you won't seek to do that again soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > that would be like hoping to do it again. > > > > > > > > > > > > a positively fearful thing there indeed! > > > > > > > > > > > > but that's just love unrealized. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all dogshit you might say. > > > > > > > > > > > > scoop up some love today! > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shithead > > > > > your wrath and disdain is ego. > > > > > " your words are the only true words' trip you have going > there is > > > > > ego. and then of course we have your guartantee which is ego. > > > > > Let's call it egoshit. > > > > > > > > > > You are the love you idiot > > > > > your word " IS " is love which is also a word for IS. > > > > > Do you get it loveshit? > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > i not only get it.. > > > > > > > > i provoked it. > > > > > > > > your yelping gift of love comes through the voice of.. > > > > > > > > your reactionary childishness... > > > > > > > > and your instinctive dumb animal nature. > > > > > > > > sweet kid! > > > > > > > > patty cake..patty cake.. > > > > > > > > ROFL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > hey snookums.. > > > > > > > > is you IS.... or IS you ain't.... my baby? > > > > > > > > c'mon m'boy..who loves ya baby? > > > > > > > > hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > well baby, postiing is reactionary by it's nature. > > > so be careful what you separate your self from Telly. > > > Mark > > > > > who's trying to separate from what? > > > > you sound dozy. > > > > did you just get up from your nappy? > > > > there there then... > > > > in a few minutes you'll be right up and at 'em again... > > > > realizing love...or loving realizing stuff...or.. > > > > um...seeing that 'hoping is seeking'.. > > > > and uh..that 'hope is only positive fear'.. > > > > so therefore and thereby let it be sounded throughout the land: > > ' > > fear is but love unrealised... > > > > love is realisation'. > > > > what twaddle! > > > > love, > > > > .b b.b. > > > that is to say all words are twaddle. > absolute. do you like that word? > Mark do you like reading and re-reading then... answering and then re-answering. why do you want to know what i like? would you like to know my favorite color too? are you developing a crush on me? let's just stay pen pals markie. i prefer things this way. 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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " OClery " > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advaitajnana , " OClery " > > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " OClery " > > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > > <sweetseasons@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > > > > > > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > > > > sweetseasons@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. If > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are not, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame longer > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) fear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > > > > > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high alert > > > > > > > > > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > > > > > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > > > > > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people love > > > > > > > > > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > > > > > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, > > myself, > > > > > > > > > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, > > and 'right' > > > > > > > > > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the > > clearer > > > > > > > > > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps you > > > > haven't > > > > > > > > examined > > > > > > > > > > > fear. > > > > > > > > > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated > > reactive > > > > > > > > > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a cold > > > > climate, > > > > > > clean > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole > > process > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > existence > > > > > > > > > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into the > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of obtaining > > what > > > > is > > > > > > > > desired > > > > > > > > > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now that > > is > > > > all > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding > > > > themselves > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure > > mechanism > > > > for > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > hoping is seeking > > > > > > > > > > hope is only positive fear. > > > > > > > > > > fear is but love unrealised. > > > > > > > > > > love is realisation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a realization sort of way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization is love...love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh golly this is fun! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then of course love is also dogshit > > > > > > > > where did I put that damn pooper scooper? > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh pick it up with your hands little darling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's only love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so grab it..... and squeeze and squish your hands together. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soon you'll realize what is what i guarantee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll love it too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll even feel dirty in the morning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper scooper. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightening experience of picking dogshit up with your > > hands.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has made you realize how stinky and dumb a thing that is to > > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you won't seek to do that again soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that would be like hoping to do it again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a positively fearful thing there indeed! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but that's just love unrealized. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all dogshit you might say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scoop up some love today! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shithead > > > > > > your wrath and disdain is ego. > > > > > > " your words are the only true words' trip you have going > > there is > > > > > > ego. and then of course we have your guartantee which is ego. > > > > > > Let's call it egoshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the love you idiot > > > > > > your word " IS " is love which is also a word for IS. > > > > > > Do you get it loveshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > i not only get it.. > > > > > > > > > > i provoked it. > > > > > > > > > > your yelping gift of love comes through the voice of.. > > > > > > > > > > your reactionary childishness... > > > > > > > > > > and your instinctive dumb animal nature. > > > > > > > > > > sweet kid! > > > > > > > > > > patty cake..patty cake.. > > > > > > > > > > ROFL! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > hey snookums.. > > > > > > > > > > is you IS.... or IS you ain't.... my baby? > > > > > > > > > > c'mon m'boy..who loves ya baby? > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > well baby, postiing is reactionary by it's nature. > > > > so be careful what you separate your self from Telly. > > > > Mark > > > > > > > who's trying to separate from what? > > > > > > you sound dozy. > > > > > > did you just get up from your nappy? > > > > > > there there then... > > > > > > in a few minutes you'll be right up and at 'em again... > > > > > > realizing love...or loving realizing stuff...or.. > > > > > > um...seeing that 'hoping is seeking'.. > > > > > > and uh..that 'hope is only positive fear'.. > > > > > > so therefore and thereby let it be sounded throughout the land: > > > ' > > > fear is but love unrealised... > > > > > > love is realisation'. > > > > > > what twaddle! > > > > > > love, > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > that is to say all words are twaddle. > > absolute. do you like that word? > > Mark > > > do you like reading and re-reading > > then... > > answering and then re-answering. > > why do you want to know what i like? > > would you like to know my favorite color too? > > are you developing a crush on me? > > let's just stay pen pals markie. > > i prefer things this way. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > Let's not even do that love. 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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " > OClery " > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advaitajnana , " > OClery " > > > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " > OClery " > > > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > > > <sweetseasons@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > > > > > sweetseasons@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. > If > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are > not, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame > longer > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) > fear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high > alert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people > love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous > system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, > > > myself, > > > > > > > > > > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, > > > and 'right' > > > > > > > > > > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the > > > clearer > > > > > > > > > > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps > you > > > > > haven't > > > > > > > > > examined > > > > > > > > > > > > fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated > > > reactive > > > > > > > > > > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a > cold > > > > > climate, > > > > > > > clean > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole > > > process > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > existence > > > > > > > > > > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into > the > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of > obtaining > > > what > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > desired > > > > > > > > > > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now > that > > > is > > > > > all > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding > > > > > themselves > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure > > > mechanism > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > hoping is seeking > > > > > > > > > > > hope is only positive fear. > > > > > > > > > > > fear is but love unrealised. > > > > > > > > > > > love is realisation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a realization sort of way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization is love...love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh golly this is fun! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then of course love is also dogshit > > > > > > > > > where did I put that damn pooper scooper? > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh pick it up with your hands little darling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's only love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so grab it..... and squeeze and squish your hands > together. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soon you'll realize what is what i guarantee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll love it too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll even feel dirty in the morning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper > scooper. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper > scooper. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightening experience of picking dogshit up with your > > > hands.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has made you realize how stinky and dumb a thing that > is to > > > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you won't seek to do that again soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that would be like hoping to do it again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a positively fearful thing there indeed! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but that's just love unrealized. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all dogshit you might say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scoop up some love today! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shithead > > > > > > > your wrath and disdain is ego. > > > > > > > " your words are the only true words' trip you have going > > > there is > > > > > > > ego. and then of course we have your guartantee which is > ego. > > > > > > > Let's call it egoshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the love you idiot > > > > > > > your word " IS " is love which is also a word for IS. > > > > > > > Do you get it loveshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > i not only get it.. > > > > > > > > > > > > i provoked it. > > > > > > > > > > > > your yelping gift of love comes through the voice of.. > > > > > > > > > > > > your reactionary childishness... > > > > > > > > > > > > and your instinctive dumb animal nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > sweet kid! > > > > > > > > > > > > patty cake..patty cake.. > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFL! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > hey snookums.. > > > > > > > > > > > > is you IS.... or IS you ain't.... my baby? > > > > > > > > > > > > c'mon m'boy..who loves ya baby? > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > well baby, postiing is reactionary by it's nature. > > > > > so be careful what you separate your self from Telly. > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > who's trying to separate from what? > > > > > > > > you sound dozy. > > > > > > > > did you just get up from your nappy? > > > > > > > > there there then... > > > > > > > > in a few minutes you'll be right up and at 'em again... > > > > > > > > realizing love...or loving realizing stuff...or.. > > > > > > > > um...seeing that 'hoping is seeking'.. > > > > > > > > and uh..that 'hope is only positive fear'.. > > > > > > > > so therefore and thereby let it be sounded throughout the land: > > > > ' > > > > fear is but love unrealised... > > > > > > > > love is realisation'. > > > > > > > > what twaddle! > > > > > > > > love, > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > that is to say all words are twaddle. > > > absolute. do you like that word? > > > Mark > > > > > > do you like reading and re-reading > > > > then... > > > > answering and then re-answering. > > > > why do you want to know what i like? > > > > would you like to know my favorite color too? > > > > are you developing a crush on me? > > > > let's just stay pen pals markie. > > > > i prefer things this way. > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > Let's not even do that love. > Mark we can do nothing darling. not even NOT doing something is possible. aw shucks.. you were just trying to be goofy. you really don't have to try at all mark. being a goof seems to come naturally to you. 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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " > > OClery " > > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advaitajnana , " > > OClery " > > > > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " > > OClery " > > > > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > > > > <sweetseasons@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In GuruRatings , " simon " > > > > > > > > sweetseasons@ > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is incorrect. > > If > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly are > > not, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame > > longer > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya can!) > > fear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high > > alert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can interpret it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many people > > love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience having > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous > > system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to fear, > > > > myself, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the adrenaline, > > > > and 'right' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all the > > > > clearer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because perhaps > > you > > > > > > haven't > > > > > > > > > > examined > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear is what creates your ego or 'exaggerated > > > > reactive > > > > > > > > > > > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a > > cold > > > > > > climate, > > > > > > > > clean > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The whole > > > > process > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > existence > > > > > > > > > > > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door into > > the > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of > > obtaining > > > > what > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > desired > > > > > > > > > > > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. Now > > that > > > > is > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > > for motivating salesmen and for people deluding > > > > > > themselves > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt failure > > > > mechanism > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > hoping is seeking > > > > > > > > > > > > hope is only positive fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > fear is but love unrealised. > > > > > > > > > > > > love is realisation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a realization sort of way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization loves me...realization loves me not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization is love...love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh golly this is fun! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then of course love is also dogshit > > > > > > > > > > where did I put that damn pooper scooper? > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh pick it up with your hands little darling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's only love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so grab it..... and squeeze and squish your hands > > together. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soon you'll realize what is what i guarantee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll love it too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll even feel dirty in the morning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper > > scooper. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper > > scooper. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightening experience of picking dogshit up with your > > > > hands.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has made you realize how stinky and dumb a thing that > > is to > > > > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you won't seek to do that again soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that would be like hoping to do it again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a positively fearful thing there indeed! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but that's just love unrealized. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all dogshit you might say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scoop up some love today! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shithead > > > > > > > > your wrath and disdain is ego. > > > > > > > > " your words are the only true words' trip you have going > > > > there is > > > > > > > > ego. and then of course we have your guartantee which is > > ego. > > > > > > > > Let's call it egoshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the love you idiot > > > > > > > > your word " IS " is love which is also a word for IS. > > > > > > > > Do you get it loveshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i not only get it.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i provoked it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your yelping gift of love comes through the voice of.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your reactionary childishness... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and your instinctive dumb animal nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sweet kid! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > patty cake..patty cake.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey snookums.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is you IS.... or IS you ain't.... my baby? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c'mon m'boy..who loves ya baby? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > well baby, postiing is reactionary by it's nature. > > > > > > so be careful what you separate your self from Telly. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > who's trying to separate from what? > > > > > > > > > > you sound dozy. > > > > > > > > > > did you just get up from your nappy? > > > > > > > > > > there there then... > > > > > > > > > > in a few minutes you'll be right up and at 'em again... > > > > > > > > > > realizing love...or loving realizing stuff...or.. > > > > > > > > > > um...seeing that 'hoping is seeking'.. > > > > > > > > > > and uh..that 'hope is only positive fear'.. > > > > > > > > > > so therefore and thereby let it be sounded throughout the land: > > > > > ' > > > > > fear is but love unrealised... > > > > > > > > > > love is realisation'. > > > > > > > > > > what twaddle! > > > > > > > > > > love, > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > that is to say all words are twaddle. > > > > absolute. do you like that word? > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > do you like reading and re-reading > > > > > > then... > > > > > > answering and then re-answering. > > > > > > why do you want to know what i like? > > > > > > would you like to know my favorite color too? > > > > > > are you developing a crush on me? > > > > > > let's just stay pen pals markie. > > > > > > i prefer things this way. > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Let's not even do that love. > > Mark > > > we can do nothing darling. > > not even NOT doing something is possible. > > aw shucks.. > > you were just trying to be goofy. > > you really don't have to try at all mark. > > being a goof seems to come naturally to you. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. your mind is playing tricks on you. poor dude. it was fun for awhile but this way too off point for my interest to continue. but I will give you a piece of advice before I go: you like the disdain a little too much to understand nothing which is fine, you go girl. but for me I get bored with egoshit. 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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " > > > OClery " > > > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advaitajnana , " > > > OClery " > > > > > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " > > > OClery " > > > > > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > > > > > <sweetseasons@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > GuruRatings , " simon " > > > > > > > > > sweetseasons@ > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: It is, and more. Tony is > incorrect. > > > If > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have fear, then you most certainly > are > > > not, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear can only exist in a time frame > > > longer > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the moment. Live out of time (if ya > can!) > > > fear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear, or sorrow, cannot exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praise the lord.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *_* That's probably right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are adrenaline rushes to protect > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > physical bodies by getting them on high > > > alert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and providing a great surge of energy, > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only a planning ahead mind can > interpret it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as what we 'think of' as fear. Many > people > > > love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adrenaline rushes as a fun experience > having > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no obvious connection to fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sai: Yes, the doings sympathetic nervous > > > system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [weeeeeeeeeeeeee] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviopimentel/2192609390/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure i made the connection to > fear, > > > > > myself, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in truth. May have done! Though not sure.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One's aware of the role of the > adrenaline, > > > > > and 'right' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there, you can see 'it'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure i noticed though ... seemed all > the > > > > > clearer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after reading your words ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [=;] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You think that I am incorrect because > perhaps > > > you > > > > > > > haven't > > > > > > > > > > > examined > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fear is what creates your ego > or 'exaggerated > > > > > reactive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mechanism'.Fear makes you wear clothes in a > > > cold > > > > > > > climate, > > > > > > > > > clean > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > teeth, study, get a job etc etc.......The > whole > > > > > process > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > existence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is actually fear........and fear is a door > into > > > the > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope is a desire and the expectation of > > > obtaining > > > > > what > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > desired > > > > > > > > > > > > > > coupled with the belief it is attainable. > Now > > > that > > > > > is > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for motivating salesmen and for people > deluding > > > > > > > themselves > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very word 'Desire' shows the inbuilt > failure > > > > > mechanism > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seeking 'realisation'..........Cheers Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > hoping is seeking > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope is only positive fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear is but love unrealised. > > > > > > > > > > > > > love is realisation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is filled with lovesick puppies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or if you prefer...enlightened dog meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a realization sort of way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > picking little petals from zuzu's flower: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization loves me...realization loves me > not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realization is love...love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh golly this is fun! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then of course love is also dogshit > > > > > > > > > > > where did I put that damn pooper scooper? > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh pick it up with your hands little darling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's only love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love is realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so grab it..... and squeeze and squish your hands > > > together. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soon you'll realize what is what i guarantee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll love it too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'll even feel dirty in the morning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper > > > scooper. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after enlightenment: pick up dogshit with pooper > > > scooper. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightening experience of picking dogshit up with > your > > > > > hands.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has made you realize how stinky and dumb a thing > that > > > is to > > > > > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you won't seek to do that again soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that would be like hoping to do it again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a positively fearful thing there indeed! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but that's just love unrealized. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all dogshit you might say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scoop up some love today! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shithead > > > > > > > > > your wrath and disdain is ego. > > > > > > > > > " your words are the only true words' trip you have > going > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > ego. and then of course we have your guartantee > which is > > > ego. > > > > > > > > > Let's call it egoshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the love you idiot > > > > > > > > > your word " IS " is love which is also a word for IS. > > > > > > > > > Do you get it loveshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i not only get it.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i provoked it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your yelping gift of love comes through the voice of.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your reactionary childishness... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and your instinctive dumb animal nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sweet kid! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > patty cake..patty cake.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey snookums.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is you IS.... or IS you ain't.... my baby? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c'mon m'boy..who loves ya baby? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well baby, postiing is reactionary by it's nature. > > > > > > > so be careful what you separate your self from Telly. > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's trying to separate from what? > > > > > > > > > > > > you sound dozy. > > > > > > > > > > > > did you just get up from your nappy? > > > > > > > > > > > > there there then... > > > > > > > > > > > > in a few minutes you'll be right up and at 'em again... > > > > > > > > > > > > realizing love...or loving realizing stuff...or.. > > > > > > > > > > > > um...seeing that 'hoping is seeking'.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and uh..that 'hope is only positive fear'.. > > > > > > > > > > > > so therefore and thereby let it be sounded throughout the > land: > > > > > > ' > > > > > > fear is but love unrealised... > > > > > > > > > > > > love is realisation'. > > > > > > > > > > > > what twaddle! > > > > > > > > > > > > love, > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > that is to say all words are twaddle. > > > > > absolute. do you like that word? > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > do you like reading and re-reading > > > > > > > > then... > > > > > > > > answering and then re-answering. > > > > > > > > why do you want to know what i like? > > > > > > > > would you like to know my favorite color too? > > > > > > > > are you developing a crush on me? > > > > > > > > let's just stay pen pals markie. > > > > > > > > i prefer things this way. > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > Let's not even do that love. > > > Mark > > > > > > we can do nothing darling. > > > > not even NOT doing something is possible. > > > > aw shucks.. > > > > you were just trying to be goofy. > > > > you really don't have to try at all mark. > > > > being a goof seems to come naturally to you. > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > your mind is playing tricks on you. > poor dude. > it was fun for awhile but this way too off point for my interest > to continue. > but I will give you a piece of advice before I go: > you like the disdain a little too much to understand nothing > which is fine, you go girl. but for me I get bored > with egoshit. > Mark that's boring....and egotistical. you are a phony. you can't get past yourself..trite as that self is. you can't even score a laugh you sorry loser. bad attitude dolly. it's enjoyable to be patronizing of your sort of church lady postures. it's fun to see how Sister Mary Markie bites the bait. 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