Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > you're about as much a jnani as howdey doodey is the buddha. > > hey, i almost stayed in a bliss state for: > > 843hrs,24min.,28sec... > > nah nah na nah nah! > > go sakti yourself some more, > > .b b.b. Namaste, Yes I am a jnani and so are you but I know that I am and apparently you don't yet, but you will eventually. I have met people like you before, and if they have never had an experience of the Self they poo poo everthing else. The words that I use are just words that others have used to decribe what surprised them. Have you never had a bliss experience? Have you never woken up from deep sleep in bliss? However from my experience there is a difference between that type of bliss and the sustained quietitude of the Self..'The Peace that passeth all understanding--Jesus'.which I recognise it to be. My first ruch of sakti energy was when I started meditation and the rush to my heart cakra caused me to fall over, from the lotus position---I considered that to be cleansing prana or kundalini still different from the quietitude of the Self, and without the visual changes that the Self's quietitude comes with--- that feeling of oneness, that penetration of the material, illusion. I write this, not for you, but just to write it, as my awareness of this state is stabilised and cannot be upset by discourses...Cheers Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > you're about as much a jnani as howdey doodey is the buddha. > > hey, i almost stayed in a bliss state for: > > 843hrs,24min.,28sec... > > nah nah na nah nah! > > go sakti yourself some more, > > .b b.b. Namaste, Yes I am a jnani and so are you but I know that I am and apparently you don't yet, but you will eventually. I have met people like you before, and if they have never had an experience of the Self they poo poo everthing else. The words that I use are just words that others have used to decribe what surprised them. Have you never had a bliss experience? Have you never woken up from deep sleep in bliss? However from my experience there is a difference between that type of bliss and the sustained quietitude of the Self..'The Peace that passeth all understanding--Jesus'.which I recognise it to be. My first ruch of sakti energy was when I started meditation and the rush to my heart cakra caused me to fall over, from the lotus position---I considered that to be cleansing prana or kundalini still different from the quietitude of the Self, and without the visual changes that the Self's quietitude comes with--- that feeling of oneness, that penetration of the material, illusion. I write this, not for you, but just to write it, as my awareness of this state is stabilised and cannot be upset by discourses...Cheers Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > you're about as much a jnani as howdey doodey is the buddha. > > > > hey, i almost stayed in a bliss state for: > > > > 843hrs,24min.,28sec... > > > > nah nah na nah nah! > > > > go sakti yourself some more, > > > > .b b.b. > > Namaste, > > Yes I am a jnani and so are you but I know that I am and apparently > you don't yet, but you will eventually. > > I have met people like you before, and if they have never had an > experience of the Self they poo poo everthing else. The words that I > use are just words that others have used to decribe what surprised > them. Have you never had a bliss experience? Have you never woken up > from deep sleep in bliss? However from my experience there is a > difference between that type of bliss and the sustained quietitude of > the Self..'The Peace that passeth all understanding--Jesus'.which I > recognise it to be. My first ruch of sakti energy was when I started > meditation and the rush to my heart cakra caused me to fall over, > from the lotus position---I considered that to be cleansing prana or > kundalini still different from the quietitude of the Self, and > without the visual changes that the Self's quietitude comes with--- > that feeling of oneness, that penetration of the material, illusion. > > I write this, not for you, but just to write it, as my awareness of > this state is stabilised and cannot be upset by discourses...Cheers > Tony. > oh bullshit anthony. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're about as much a jnani as howdey doodey is the buddha. > > > > > > hey, i almost stayed in a bliss state for: > > > > > > 843hrs,24min.,28sec... > > > > > > nah nah na nah nah! > > > > > > go sakti yourself some more, > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Namaste, > > > > Yes I am a jnani and so are you but I know that I am and apparently > > you don't yet, but you will eventually. > > > > I have met people like you before, and if they have never had an > > experience of the Self they poo poo everthing else. The words that I > > use are just words that others have used to decribe what surprised > > them. Have you never had a bliss experience? Have you never woken up > > from deep sleep in bliss? However from my experience there is a > > difference between that type of bliss and the sustained quietitude of > > the Self..'The Peace that passeth all understanding--Jesus'.which I > > recognise it to be. My first ruch of sakti energy was when I started > > meditation and the rush to my heart cakra caused me to fall over, > > from the lotus position---I considered that to be cleansing prana or > > kundalini still different from the quietitude of the Self, and > > without the visual changes that the Self's quietitude comes with--- > > that feeling of oneness, that penetration of the material, illusion. > > > > I write this, not for you, but just to write it, as my awareness of > > this state is stabilised and cannot be upset by discourses...Cheers > > Tony. > > > > > oh bullshit anthony. > > .b b.b. > " my awareness " LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're about as much a jnani as howdey doodey is the buddha. > > > > > > hey, i almost stayed in a bliss state for: > > > > > > 843hrs,24min.,28sec... > > > > > > nah nah na nah nah! > > > > > > go sakti yourself some more, > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Namaste, > > > > Yes I am a jnani and so are you but I know that I am and apparently > > you don't yet, but you will eventually. > > > > I have met people like you before, and if they have never had an > > experience of the Self they poo poo everthing else. The words that I > > use are just words that others have used to decribe what surprised > > them. Have you never had a bliss experience? Have you never woken up > > from deep sleep in bliss? However from my experience there is a > > difference between that type of bliss and the sustained quietitude of > > the Self..'The Peace that passeth all understanding--Jesus'.which I > > recognise it to be. My first ruch of sakti energy was when I started > > meditation and the rush to my heart cakra caused me to fall over, > > from the lotus position---I considered that to be cleansing prana or > > kundalini still different from the quietitude of the Self, and > > without the visual changes that the Self's quietitude comes with-- - > > that feeling of oneness, that penetration of the material, illusion. > > > > I write this, not for you, but just to write it, as my awareness of > > this state is stabilised and cannot be upset by discourses...Cheers > > Tony. > > > > > oh bullshit anthony. > > .b b.b. > Namaste, I rest my case..however it amazes me that you could be so involved in a site dedicated to Niz when you obviously haven't absorbed anything..Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're about as much a jnani as howdey doodey is the buddha. > > > > > > > > hey, i almost stayed in a bliss state for: > > > > > > > > 843hrs,24min.,28sec... > > > > > > > > nah nah na nah nah! > > > > > > > > go sakti yourself some more, > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Yes I am a jnani and so are you but I know that I am and > apparently > > > you don't yet, but you will eventually. > > > > > > I have met people like you before, and if they have never had an > > > experience of the Self they poo poo everthing else. The words > that I > > > use are just words that others have used to decribe what > surprised > > > them. Have you never had a bliss experience? Have you never woken > up > > > from deep sleep in bliss? However from my experience there is a > > > difference between that type of bliss and the sustained > quietitude of > > > the Self..'The Peace that passeth all understanding--Jesus'.which > I > > > recognise it to be. My first ruch of sakti energy was when I > started > > > meditation and the rush to my heart cakra caused me to fall over, > > > from the lotus position---I considered that to be cleansing prana > or > > > kundalini still different from the quietitude of the Self, and > > > without the visual changes that the Self's quietitude comes with-- > - > > > that feeling of oneness, that penetration of the material, > illusion. > > > > > > I write this, not for you, but just to write it, as my awareness > of > > > this state is stabilised and cannot be upset by > discourses...Cheers > > > Tony. > > > > > > > > > oh bullshit anthony. > > > > .b b.b. > > > Namaste, > > I rest my case..however it amazes me that you could be so involved in > a site dedicated to Niz when you obviously haven't absorbed > anything.. there's nothing to absorb toni. that was his niz's whole point. you've missed everything. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're about as much a jnani as howdey doodey is the buddha. > > > > > > > > > > hey, i almost stayed in a bliss state for: > > > > > > > > > > 843hrs,24min.,28sec... > > > > > > > > > > nah nah na nah nah! > > > > > > > > > > go sakti yourself some more, > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Yes I am a jnani and so are you but I know that I am and > > apparently > > > > you don't yet, but you will eventually. > > > > > > > > I have met people like you before, and if they have never had an > > > > experience of the Self they poo poo everthing else. The words > > that I > > > > use are just words that others have used to decribe what > > surprised > > > > them. Have you never had a bliss experience? Have you never woken > > up > > > > from deep sleep in bliss? However from my experience there is a > > > > difference between that type of bliss and the sustained > > quietitude of > > > > the Self..'The Peace that passeth all understanding-- Jesus'.which > > I > > > > recognise it to be. My first ruch of sakti energy was when I > > started > > > > meditation and the rush to my heart cakra caused me to fall over, > > > > from the lotus position---I considered that to be cleansing prana > > or > > > > kundalini still different from the quietitude of the Self, and > > > > without the visual changes that the Self's quietitude comes with-- > > - > > > > that feeling of oneness, that penetration of the material, > > illusion. > > > > > > > > I write this, not for you, but just to write it, as my awareness > > of > > > > this state is stabilised and cannot be upset by > > discourses...Cheers > > > > Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh bullshit anthony. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Namaste, > > > > I rest my case..however it amazes me that you could be so involved in > > a site dedicated to Niz when you obviously haven't absorbed > > anything..there's nothing to absorb toni. > > that was his niz's whole point. > > you've missed everything. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > Namaste, But yet Niz sang bhajans! His point only referred to those who had some modicum of awareness.....there are still the samkaras/vasanas in the way. Thats why I am still here talking to you...or doing anything. I am fully aware that there is ultimately nothing to absorb, but as Sankara said..' it is real whilst you are in it'...and isn't that the truth of it all......... As Jesus said;;; Nobody comes to the Father except through me, I am the way the truth and the light' or paraph. Jesus was there talking as the Sakti or Saguna, for it is not possible to realise NirGun without simultaneously realising Saguna and that is a sadhana...Cheers Tony. I have no problem with sahdanas or bhakti amongst people except sadhakas should be informed of the whole truth not mislead into superstition.......Which is invariably what happens...Maily because they don't fully appreciate that Bhakti can only be realised at Moksha....Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > > > there's nothing to absorb toni. > > that was his niz's whole point. > > you've missed everything. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > Namaste, But yet Niz sang bhajans! His point only referred to those who had some modicum of awareness.....there are still the samkaras/vasanas in the way. Thats why I am still here talking to you...or doing anything. I am fully aware that there is ultimately nothing to absorb, but as Sankara said..' it is real whilst you are in it'...and isn't that the truth of it all......... As Jesus said;;; Nobody comes to the Father except through me, I am the way the truth and the light' or paraph. Jesus was there talking as the Sakti or Saguna, for it is not possible to realise NirGun without simultaneously realising Saguna and that is a sadhana...Cheers Tony. I have no problem with sahdanas or bhakti amongst people except sadhakas should be informed of the whole truth not mislead into superstition.......Which is invariably what happens...Maily because they don't fully appreciate that Bhakti can only be realised at Moksha.... --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're about as much a jnani as howdey doodey is the buddha. > > > > > > > > > > > > hey, i almost stayed in a bliss state for: > > > > > > > > > > > > 843hrs,24min.,28sec... > > > > > > > > > > > > nah nah na nah nah! > > > > > > > > > > > > go sakti yourself some more, > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > Yes I am a jnani and so are you but I know that I am and > > > apparently > > > > > you don't yet, but you will eventually. > > > > > > > > > > I have met people like you before, and if they have never had > an > > > > > experience of the Self they poo poo everthing else. The words > > > that I > > > > > use are just words that others have used to decribe what > > > surprised > > > > > them. Have you never had a bliss experience? Have you never > woken > > > up > > > > > from deep sleep in bliss? However from my experience there is > a > > > > > difference between that type of bliss and the sustained > > > quietitude of > > > > > the Self..'The Peace that passeth all understanding-- > Jesus'.which > > > I > > > > > recognise it to be. My first ruch of sakti energy was when I > > > started > > > > > meditation and the rush to my heart cakra caused me to fall > over, > > > > > from the lotus position---I considered that to be cleansing > prana > > > or > > > > > kundalini still different from the quietitude of the Self, > and > > > > > without the visual changes that the Self's quietitude comes > with-- > > > - > > > > > that feeling of oneness, that penetration of the material, > > > illusion. > > > > > > > > > > I write this, not for you, but just to write it, as my > awareness > > > of > > > > > this state is stabilised and cannot be upset by > > > discourses...Cheers > > > > > Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh bullshit anthony. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > I rest my case..however it amazes me that you could be so > involved in > > > a site dedicated to Niz when you obviously haven't absorbed > > > anything..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's nothing to absorb toni. > > > > that was his niz's whole point. > > > > you've missed everything. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > Namaste, > > But yet Niz sang bhajans! > > His point only referred to those who had some modicum of > awareness.....there are still the samkaras/vasanas in the way. Thats > why I am still here talking to you...or doing anything. > > I am fully aware that there is ultimately nothing to absorb, but as > Sankara said..' it is real whilst you are in it'...and isn't that the > truth of it all......... > > As Jesus said;;; Nobody comes to the Father except through me, I am > the way the truth and the light' or paraph. Jesus was there talking > as the Sakti or Saguna, for it is not possible to realise NirGun > without simultaneously realising Saguna and that is a > sadhana...Cheers Tony. > > I have no problem with sahdanas or bhakti amongst people except > sadhakas should be informed of the whole truth not mislead into > superstition.......Which is invariably what happens...Maily because > they don't fully appreciate that Bhakti can only be realised at > Moksha....> get that help real soon anthony. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Tony OClery: > > roberibus111: > > > you're about as much a jnani > > as howdey doodey is the buddha. > > hey, i almost stayed in a bliss state for: > > 843hrs,24min.,28sec... > > nah nah na nah nah! > > go sakti yourself some more, > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Namaste, > > Yes I am a jnani > > > > You aren't. > and so are you > but I know that I am > > You aren't. I just told you. > and apparently > you don't yet, but you will eventually. > > > > I have met people like you before, > and if they have never had an experience of the Self > they poo poo everthing else. > > Yeah, " if " . > The words that I use > are just words that others have used > to decribe what surprised them. > The words " that you use " look so much an attempt to make " others " believe you know. > Have you never had a bliss experience? > Have you never woken up from deep sleep in bliss? > LOL! > However from my experience there is a > difference between that type of bliss > and the sustained quietitude of the Self.. > > Do you care about it? Your " precious " ain't getting you anywhere. > 'The Peace that passeth all understanding--Jesus'. > which I recognise it to be. > My first ruch of sakti energy was when I started > meditation and the rush to my heart cakra > caused me to fall over, > from the lotus position--- > Oh, fuck! You really thought it was THAT? > I considered that to be cleansing prana or > kundalini still different > from the quietitude of the Self, > and without the visual changes > that the Self's quietitude comes with--- > that feeling of oneness, > that penetration of the material, illusion. > > Don't you think it is very difficult to talk with someone, when he strongly believes he already knows? > I write this, > not for you, > but just to write it, > as my awareness of this state > is stabilised > and cannot be upset by discourses... > > Arrogant MO noted. Alessandro > Cheers > Tony. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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