Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " charlieaugust10 " <charlieaugust10 wrote: > > > > > > Wow. Wow. Wow. > > > > I mean, wow. I just read this entire thread and...wow. > > > > A real arena of mud slinging. > > > > (And please somebody do not tell me there is no mud and no > > > slinging, or that I am the > > > > mud and the slinging, or any more thoroughly tired and recycled > > > advaita garbage. > > > > Is there any simple human affection on this site? Any?) > > > > By the way, I was raised Catholic. > > > > I've never read Lacan. > > > > I thought the original message, though a bit lecturesome, raised > > > some interesting issues: > > > > namely, the cliquishness and egotism and exclusive jargon of most > > > groups, be they > > > > Catholic or Hindu or even if they (quite aggressively) profess to > > > be beyond it all. > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Lacan was catholic. Didn't practice the religion, as far as I know. I recommend the > reading > > of Zizek instead of Lacan's original opus, for those interested in Lacan. It can take > several > > years to find out what Lacan is talking about and there's much unnecessary blah, blah, > > blah without importance. Lacan appears to have been a big a..hole! > > > > Nonduality is a great tool....but just a tool. When used, take care of it as if it was your > own > > tool. Keep it clean. Give it to another, who needs it. > > > > Ricardo > > > Hi Ricardo, > No interest in reading Lacan. I am enjoying Schopenhauer, Vivekananda, and Balsekar for > the moment, but I won't wish them on you, as I know all of our paths are personal and > unique. > As far as being raised Catholic, I don't much identify with it, it is just a fact like having > brown skin. > I think the people on this site and other sites who cannot tolerate a little bit of difference > are...well...what is the word?? > Oh well, I am new to this dialogue forum thing, I guess on a nonduality forum I expected > a little more... > Anyway, thought you made some good points on original thread. > > Cheers, > > C expect nothing and you won't get so f***ing disappointed. nothing is what's offered. nothing's what you get. there is nothing " more " nor " less " in nothing. quit whining. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Hi, Have been reading a nice book titled: " The Meaning of Life " . I read it twice, at the beach, in Phuket, Thailand. I can recommend this short and concise book of Terry Eagleton. I should have been reading papers, but it was a short vacation and I decided to take it easy and have some beer, too. Now, the point is that, in my opinion, all ancient writings (hindu, buddhistic) are taken too literally and not metaphorically, as I would suggest. The same applies to many christians, jews and (muslims), who take the old testament for what is written. Fundamentalists, with other words. These writings describe! Like in all other writings, descriptions are done to explain, to give meaning, to imbed (new) thoughts in an existent social infrastructure (Other). Ricardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " loewe2009 " <loewe2009 wrote: > > Hi, > > Have been reading a nice book titled: " The Meaning of Life " . I read it twice, at the beach, in > Phuket, Thailand. I can recommend this short and concise book of Terry Eagleton. I should > have been reading papers, but it was a short vacation and I decided to take it easy and have > some beer, too. > > Now, the point is that, in my opinion, all ancient writings (hindu, buddhistic) are taken too > literally and not metaphorically, as I would suggest. The same applies to many christians, > jews and (muslims), who take the old testament for what is written. Fundamentalists, with > other words. > > These writings describe! Like in all other writings, descriptions are done to explain, to give > meaning, to imbed (new) thoughts in an existent social infrastructure (Other). > > Ricardo > The search for the meaning of life is not a sign of seriousness but it is the escacpe from the pain of life. J. Krishnamurti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 - > > > > Hi Ricardo, > > No interest in reading Lacan. I am enjoying Schopenhauer, > Vivekananda, and Balsekar for > > the moment, but I won't wish them on you, as I know all of our paths > are personal and > > unique. > > As far as being raised Catholic, I don't much identify with it, it > is just a fact like having > > brown skin. > > I think the people on this site and other sites who cannot tolerate > a little bit of difference > > are...well...what is the word?? > > Oh well, I am new to this dialogue forum thing, I guess on a > nonduality forum I expected > > a little more... > > Anyway, thought you made some good points on original thread. > > > > Cheers, > > > > C > > > expect nothing and you won't get so f***ing disappointed. > > nothing is what's offered. > > nothing's what you get. > > there is nothing " more " nor " less " in nothing. > > quit whining. > > .b b.b. Please don't be " f***ing disappointed " with my " whining. " Like you say, " expect nothing " , right? Maybe, if you walk your talk, you will come through to me clearer. For starters, don't expect no one to whine on this funny site. Cheers mate, c > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 understand that it is not the individual which has consiousness, it is the consiousness which assumes innummerable forms. that something which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. in the absence of this basic thought "I Am" there is no thought, there is no consiousness.. - mahesh dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33NisargadattaSent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:21:09 PM Re: Belief & Faith Nisargadatta, Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@.. .> wrote:>> fiction & non fiction, belief & non belief, faith & no faith, right & wrong, ego & non ego,........ .. picture continues displaying on the screen till the camera is on. picture is real till camera is on, camera shuts picture disappears, screen doesn't carry images or picturization. > -mahesh> cameraman "mahesh",this your mentionned "camera" is (restless) mind....taking pictures....pictures are pictures, onlythere are no real pictures.... means, there isn't any reality within picturesbusy mind can never see "something" realbusy mind can create & project fictions only....fictions are unrealtherefore there isn't ever any creation for realMarc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat wrote: > > understand that it is not the individual which has consiousness, it is the consiousness which assumes innummerable forms. that something which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. in the absence of this basic thought " I Am " there is no thought, there is no consiousness. > - mahesh > The individual 'has' no consciousness. The individual IS consciousness. Werner > > > > ________________________________ > dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Friday, February 27, 2009 9:21:09 PM > Re: Belief & Faith > > > Nisargadatta, Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@ .> > wrote: > > > > fiction & non fiction, belief & non belief, faith & no faith, > right & wrong, ego & non ego,........ .. picture continues displaying > on the screen till the camera is on. picture is real till camera is > on, camera shuts picture disappears, screen doesn't carry images or > picturization. > > -mahesh > > > > cameraman " mahesh " , > > this your mentionned " camera " is (restless) mind....taking > pictures.... > > pictures are pictures, only > > there are no real pictures..... means, there isn't any reality within > pictures > > busy mind can never see " something " real > > busy mind can create & project fictions only..... > > fictions are unreal > > therefore there isn't ever any creation for real > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " charlieaugust10 " <charlieaugust10 wrote: > > - > > > > > > Hi Ricardo, > > > No interest in reading Lacan. I am enjoying Schopenhauer, > > Vivekananda, and Balsekar for > > > the moment, but I won't wish them on you, as I know all of our paths > > are personal and > > > unique. > > > As far as being raised Catholic, I don't much identify with it, it > > is just a fact like having > > > brown skin. > > > I think the people on this site and other sites who cannot tolerate > > a little bit of difference > > > are...well...what is the word?? > > > Oh well, I am new to this dialogue forum thing, I guess on a > > nonduality forum I expected > > > a little more... > > > Anyway, thought you made some good points on original thread. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > C > > > > > > expect nothing and you won't get so f***ing disappointed. > > > > nothing is what's offered. > > > > nothing's what you get. > > > > there is nothing " more " nor " less " in nothing. > > > > quit whining. > > > > .b b.b. > > > Please don't be " f***ing disappointed " with my " whining. " > Like you say, " expect nothing " , right? > Maybe, if you walk your talk, you will come through to me clearer. > For starters, don't expect no one to whine on this funny site. > > Cheers mate, > > c quit fucking begging. don't ask me to " please don't " do nor to " please do " anything. even if that kind of nonsense pleases you. i don't " do " . It is done. i don't feel anything about your disappointment. i was pointing out it's fucking uselessness to you asshole. you mistake the finger for some dung hole disappointment. that's not just incorrect it's dumb. i don't expect anything from assholes but useless shit anyway. you fulfilled my expectations. so i'll walk my walk and you can spew your shit. i still see your whining as grunting on the shitpot. wipe your mess with a shitstick. you might find that cleansing, refreshing..and enlightening too. after all the buddha is a shitstick. here's what you do.. you pucker up your lips in anticipation.. then you stick that shitstick up your puckered asshole. that will be a funny sight as well. LOL! fun fun fun fun funnnnnnnnnnnnyyyy. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat wrote: > > understand that it is not the individual which has consiousness, it is the consiousness which assumes innummerable forms. that something which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. in the absence of this basic thought " I Am " there is no thought, there is no consiousness. > - mahesh you're good at plagiarizing. putting your name directly underneath the above.. WITHOUT quotation marks or crediting it's source.. speaks everything that has to be spoken about you. what a loser. let's now give credit where credit is due... and expose your goddamn phoniness: " Understand that it is not the individual that has consciousness; it is the consciousness which assumes innumerable forms. That something which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. It is the child of a barren woman. In the absence of this basic concept `I am', there is no thought, there is no consciousness. " Nisargadatta: Prior to Consciousness quoted by: ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@> wrote: > > > > understand that it is not the individual which has consiousness, it > is the consiousness which assumes innummerable forms. that something > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. in the absence of > this basic thought " I Am " there is no thought, there is no consiousness. > > - mahesh > > > > you're good at plagiarizing. > > putting your name directly underneath the above.. > > WITHOUT quotation marks or crediting it's source.. > > speaks everything that has to be spoken about you. > > what a loser. > > let's now give credit where credit is due... > > and expose your goddamn phoniness: > > > " Understand that it is not the individual that has consciousness; it > is the consciousness which assumes innumerable forms. That something > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. It is the child > of a barren woman. In the absence of this basic concept `I am', there > is no thought, there is no consciousness. " > > Nisargadatta: Prior to Consciousness > > quoted by: > > .b b.b. > Bob, We all are second or third hand people. Those who are pointing at others accusing them of plgiarisms strangely enough must believe they are unique. What a joke ... Consciousness itself is a plagiary. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@> wrote: > > > > > > understand that it is not the individual which has consiousness, it > > is the consiousness which assumes innummerable forms. that something > > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. in the absence of > > this basic thought " I Am " there is no thought, there is no consiousness. > > > - mahesh > > > > > > > > you're good at plagiarizing. > > > > putting your name directly underneath the above.. > > > > WITHOUT quotation marks or crediting it's source.. > > > > speaks everything that has to be spoken about you. > > > > what a loser. > > > > let's now give credit where credit is due... > > > > and expose your goddamn phoniness: > > > > > > " Understand that it is not the individual that has consciousness; it > > is the consciousness which assumes innumerable forms. That something > > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. It is the child > > of a barren woman. In the absence of this basic concept `I am', there > > is no thought, there is no consciousness. " > > > > Nisargadatta: Prior to Consciousness > > > > quoted by: > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Bob, > > We all are second or third hand people. Those who are pointing at > others accusing them of plgiarisms strangely enough must believe they > are unique. What a joke ... > > Consciousness itself is a plagiary. > > Werner werner... bullshit. no joke. ..b b.b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@> wrote: > > > > > > > > understand that it is not the individual which has consiousness, it > > > is the consiousness which assumes innummerable forms. that something > > > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. in the absence of > > > this basic thought " I Am " there is no thought, there is no > consiousness. > > > > - mahesh > > > > > > > > > > > > you're good at plagiarizing. > > > > > > putting your name directly underneath the above.. > > > > > > WITHOUT quotation marks or crediting it's source.. > > > > > > speaks everything that has to be spoken about you. > > > > > > what a loser. > > > > > > let's now give credit where credit is due... > > > > > > and expose your goddamn phoniness: > > > > > > > > > " Understand that it is not the individual that has consciousness; it > > > is the consciousness which assumes innumerable forms. That something > > > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. It is the child > > > of a barren woman. In the absence of this basic concept `I am', there > > > is no thought, there is no consciousness. " > > > > > > Nisargadatta: Prior to Consciousness > > > > > > quoted by: > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Bob, > > > > We all are second or third hand people. Those who are pointing at > > others accusing them of plgiarisms strangely enough must believe they > > are unique. What a joke ... > > > > Consciousness itself is a plagiary. > > > > Werner > > > werner... > > bullshit. > > no joke. > > .b b.b > How does anyone plagerize nothing? Yet everyone does it... even though no one admits to it. Love ya. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " loewe2009 " <loewe2009 wrote: > > Hi, > > Have been reading a nice book titled: " The Meaning of Life " . I read it twice, at the beach, in > Phuket, Thailand. I can recommend this short and concise book of Terry Eagleton. I should > have been reading papers, but it was a short vacation and I decided to take it easy and have > some beer, too. > > Now, the point is that, in my opinion, all ancient writings (hindu, buddhistic) are taken too > literally and not metaphorically, as I would suggest. The same applies to many christians, > jews and (muslims), who take the old testament for what is written. Fundamentalists, with > other words. > > These writings describe! Like in all other writings, descriptions are done to explain, to give > meaning, to imbed (new) thoughts in an existent social infrastructure (Other). > > Ricardo P: Reading such book on a short vacation to escape winter in a tropical spot, shows a mind to which Heaven itself would be boring without words. Well, maybe, you're hungrier for enlightenment than for sunshine, and you feel that obsessing about enlightenment is enlightening in itself. Or course, you are in the best position to explore and learn from your own restlessness. Why go to the other side of the world, to read a book that you could have read at home? It seems, you need to make your peace with boredom. those who don't make peace with it are sentenced to a life of discontent. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > understand that it is not the individual which has > consiousness, it > > > > is the consiousness which assumes innummerable forms. that something > > > > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. in the > absence of > > > > this basic thought " I Am " there is no thought, there is no > > consiousness. > > > > > - mahesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're good at plagiarizing. > > > > > > > > putting your name directly underneath the above.. > > > > > > > > WITHOUT quotation marks or crediting it's source.. > > > > > > > > speaks everything that has to be spoken about you. > > > > > > > > what a loser. > > > > > > > > let's now give credit where credit is due... > > > > > > > > and expose your goddamn phoniness: > > > > > > > > > > > > " Understand that it is not the individual that has consciousness; it > > > > is the consciousness which assumes innumerable forms. That something > > > > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. It is the child > > > > of a barren woman. In the absence of this basic concept `I am', > there > > > > is no thought, there is no consciousness. " > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta: Prior to Consciousness > > > > > > > > quoted by: > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob, > > > > > > We all are second or third hand people. Those who are pointing at > > > others accusing them of plgiarisms strangely enough must believe they > > > are unique. What a joke ... > > > > > > Consciousness itself is a plagiary. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > werner... > > > > bullshit. > > > > no joke. > > > > .b b.b > > > > How does anyone plagerize nothing? > > Yet everyone does it... even though no one admits to it. > > Love ya. > > ~A who's 'everyone'? if there's one or more in an 'everyone'.. plagiarism is possible...and most probable. plagiarism abounds in phantom-land. nothing has nothing to do with nothing. plagiarists have nothing to do with anything. they have everything to do with taking others' thoughts.. and claiming them as their own. they steal. yet there is nothing to steal. paradoxical yes. excusable no. squiggly scrawls and screeching squawks.. characteristic of phantom sages.. are useless travails. profitless barrens. ridiculous attempts to make plain and comprehensible: the not knowable in predicates of that which is not worth knowing. plenty big foolish yes? baba admits nothing..and ONLY nothing.. there is nothing else. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@> wrote: > > > > > > > > understand that it is not the individual which has consiousness, it > > > is the consiousness which assumes innummerable forms. that something > > > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. in the absence of > > > this basic thought " I Am " there is no thought, there is no > consiousness. > > > > - mahesh > > > > > > > > > > > > you're good at plagiarizing. > > > > > > putting your name directly underneath the above.. > > > > > > WITHOUT quotation marks or crediting it's source.. > > > > > > speaks everything that has to be spoken about you. > > > > > > what a loser. > > > > > > let's now give credit where credit is due... > > > > > > and expose your goddamn phoniness: > > > > > > > > > " Understand that it is not the individual that has consciousness; it > > > is the consciousness which assumes innumerable forms. That something > > > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. It is the child > > > of a barren woman. In the absence of this basic concept `I am', there > > > is no thought, there is no consciousness. " > > > > > > Nisargadatta: Prior to Consciousness > > > > > > quoted by: > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Bob, > > > > We all are second or third hand people. Those who are pointing at > > others accusing them of plgiarisms strangely enough must believe they > > are unique. What a joke ... > > > > Consciousness itself is a plagiary. > > > > Werner > > > werner... > > bullshit. > > no joke. > > .b b.b > Throwing your fecal vocabulary at everything you don't understand is no solution, Bob.. Better shup up and get quiet. A bit more modesty could be a beautifier for your poor soul plagued by your usual spasms of arrogance. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > understand that it is not the individual which has > consiousness, it > > > > is the consiousness which assumes innummerable forms. that something > > > > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. in the > absence of > > > > this basic thought " I Am " there is no thought, there is no > > consiousness. > > > > > - mahesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're good at plagiarizing. > > > > > > > > putting your name directly underneath the above.. > > > > > > > > WITHOUT quotation marks or crediting it's source.. > > > > > > > > speaks everything that has to be spoken about you. > > > > > > > > what a loser. > > > > > > > > let's now give credit where credit is due... > > > > > > > > and expose your goddamn phoniness: > > > > > > > > > > > > " Understand that it is not the individual that has consciousness; it > > > > is the consciousness which assumes innumerable forms. That something > > > > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. It is the child > > > > of a barren woman. In the absence of this basic concept `I am', > there > > > > is no thought, there is no consciousness. " > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta: Prior to Consciousness > > > > > > > > quoted by: > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob, > > > > > > We all are second or third hand people. Those who are pointing at > > > others accusing them of plgiarisms strangely enough must believe they > > > are unique. What a joke ... > > > > > > Consciousness itself is a plagiary. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > werner... > > > > bullshit. > > > > no joke. > > > > .b b.b > > > > > Throwing your fecal vocabulary at everything you don't understand is > no solution, Bob.. > > Better shup up and get quiet. > > A bit more modesty could be a beautifier for your poor soul plagued by > your usual spasms of arrogance. > > Werner :-) OK wernie.. you're full of horse feathers. now YOU shut the fuck up you dumb fucking dingle-nuts asshole. there is no such thing as a soul. you are no more beautiful than anyone or anything. there is no problem.. so why the hell do you think there is a solution? have a little more modesty.. rather than arrogantly thinking that trying to give advice.. to those who are much more modest and far less arrogant than you... does you any fucking good. there is no such thing as good. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 whatever i am is only because of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, you are right he has quoted it, i sing like a parrot in the company of my master. i have no words, it is only his insight that is speaking. i am still in a cage dreaming about freedom. i corelate my freedom with my master though it is an imaginary dream it gives me complete satisfaction. -mahesh roberibus111 <Roberibus111Nisargadatta Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:43:58 PM Re: Belief & Faith Nisargadatta, Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@.. .> wrote:>> understand that it is not the individual which has consiousness, itis the consiousness which assumes innummerable forms.. that somethingwhich is born or which will die is purely imaginary. in the absence ofthis basic thought "I Am" there is no thought, there is no consiousness.> - mahesh you're good at plagiarizing.putting your name directly underneath the above..WITHOUT quotation marks or crediting it's source..speaks everything that has to be spoken about you.what a loser.let's now give credit where credit is due...and expose your goddamn phoniness:"Understand that it is not the individual that has consciousness; itis the consciousness which assumes innumerable forms. That somethingwhich is born or which will die is purely imaginary. It is the childof a barren woman. In the absence of this basic concept `I am', thereis no thought, there is no consciousness. "Nisargadatta: Prior to Consciousnessquoted by:.b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 the first thing the little brown monkey N. would tell you.. is lose any and all " masters " . the only thing a " master " can and does do.. is keep you blind and enslaved. do you think Nisargadatta would like that? or even want you calling him your master? he'd slap your face for that. maybe that would wake you from your nap. ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat wrote: > > whatever i am is only because of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, you are right he has quoted it, i sing like a parrot in the company of my master. i have no words, it is only his insight that is speaking. i am still in a cage dreaming about freedom. i corelate my freedom with my master though it is an imaginary dream it gives me complete satisfaction. > -mahesh > > > > > ________________________________ > roberibus111 <Roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:43:58 PM > Re: Belief & Faith > > > Nisargadatta, Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@ .> wrote: > > > > understand that it is not the individual which has consiousness, it > is the consiousness which assumes innummerable forms. that something > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. in the absence of > this basic thought " I Am " there is no thought, there is no consiousness. > > - mahesh > > you're good at plagiarizing. > > putting your name directly underneath the above.. > > WITHOUT quotation marks or crediting it's source.. > > speaks everything that has to be spoken about you. > > what a loser. > > let's now give credit where credit is due... > > and expose your goddamn phoniness: > > " Understand that it is not the individual that has consciousness; it > is the consciousness which assumes innumerable forms. That something > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. It is the child > of a barren woman. In the absence of this basic concept `I am', there > is no thought, there is no consciousness. " > > Nisargadatta: Prior to Consciousness > > quoted by: > > .b b.b. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " charlieaugust10 " > <charlieaugust10@> wrote: > > > > - > > > > > > > > Hi Ricardo, > > > > No interest in reading Lacan. I am enjoying Schopenhauer, > > > Vivekananda, and Balsekar for > > > > the moment, but I won't wish them on you, as I know all of our paths > > > are personal and > > > > unique. > > > > As far as being raised Catholic, I don't much identify with it, it > > > is just a fact like having > > > > brown skin. > > > > I think the people on this site and other sites who cannot tolerate > > > a little bit of difference > > > > are...well...what is the word?? > > > > Oh well, I am new to this dialogue forum thing, I guess on a > > > nonduality forum I expected > > > > a little more... > > > > Anyway, thought you made some good points on original thread. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > C > > > > > > > > > expect nothing and you won't get so f***ing disappointed. > > > > > > nothing is what's offered. > > > > > > nothing's what you get. > > > > > > there is nothing " more " nor " less " in nothing. > > > > > > quit whining. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Please don't be " f***ing disappointed " with my " whining. " > > Like you say, " expect nothing " , right? > > Maybe, if you walk your talk, you will come through to me clearer. > > For starters, don't expect no one to whine on this funny site. > > > > Cheers mate, > > > > c > > > > quit fucking begging. > > don't ask me to " please don't " do nor to " please do " anything. > > even if that kind of nonsense pleases you. > > i don't " do " . > > It is done. > > i don't feel anything about your disappointment. > > i was pointing out it's fucking uselessness to you asshole. > > you mistake the finger for some dung hole disappointment. > > that's not just incorrect it's dumb. > > i don't expect anything from assholes but useless shit anyway. > > you fulfilled my expectations. > > so i'll walk my walk and you can spew your shit. > > i still see your whining as grunting on the shitpot. > > wipe your mess with a shitstick. > > you might find that cleansing, refreshing..and enlightening too. > > after all the buddha is a shitstick. > > here's what you do.. > > you pucker up your lips in anticipation.. > > then you stick that shitstick up your puckered asshole. > > that will be a funny sight as well. > > LOL! > > fun fun fun fun funnnnnnnnnnnnyyyy. > > .b b.b. I like that I'm getting you angry. Your passion moves me. Shows how much you do care, despite all your dog shit dogma about being the Big Impersonal Detached Nondoing Nothing. You're a plagiarist, Bob, and a bad one at that. Your advaita sucks. I mean real child's play. Please, Bob. If you fancy yourself Buddha with a Shitstick, try your own asshole before waving it at somebody else's. Yours might be too tight, though. First clean up all that dried up crusty old dogma stuck up there. And remember, don't mistake your Shitstick for the moon. Take it easy, Bob. Don't take life too hard. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " charlieaugust10 " <charlieaugust10 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " charlieaugust10 " > > <charlieaugust10@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ricardo, > > > > > No interest in reading Lacan. I am enjoying Schopenhauer, > > > > Vivekananda, and Balsekar for > > > > > the moment, but I won't wish them on you, as I know all of our paths > > > > are personal and > > > > > unique. > > > > > As far as being raised Catholic, I don't much identify with it, it > > > > is just a fact like having > > > > > brown skin. > > > > > I think the people on this site and other sites who cannot tolerate > > > > a little bit of difference > > > > > are...well...what is the word?? > > > > > > > > > Oh well, I am new to this dialogue forum thing, I guess on a > > > > nonduality forum I expected > > > > > a little more... > > > > > Anyway, thought you made some good points on original thread. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > C > > > > > > > > > > > > expect nothing and you won't get so f***ing disappointed. > > > > > > > > nothing is what's offered. > > > > > > > > nothing's what you get. > > > > > > > > there is nothing " more " nor " less " in nothing. > > > > > > > > quit whining. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Please don't be " f***ing disappointed " with my " whining. " > > > Like you say, " expect nothing " , right? > > > Maybe, if you walk your talk, you will come through to me clearer. > > > For starters, don't expect no one to whine on this funny site. > > > > > > Cheers mate, > > > > > > c > > > > > > > > quit fucking begging. > > > > don't ask me to " please don't " do nor to " please do " anything. > > > > even if that kind of nonsense pleases you. > > > > i don't " do " . > > > > It is done. > > > > i don't feel anything about your disappointment. > > > > i was pointing out it's fucking uselessness to you asshole. > > > > you mistake the finger for some dung hole disappointment. > > > > that's not just incorrect it's dumb. > > > > i don't expect anything from assholes but useless shit anyway. > > > > you fulfilled my expectations. > > > > so i'll walk my walk and you can spew your shit. > > > > i still see your whining as grunting on the shitpot. > > > > wipe your mess with a shitstick. > > > > you might find that cleansing, refreshing..and enlightening too. > > > > after all the buddha is a shitstick. > > > > here's what you do.. > > > > you pucker up your lips in anticipation.. > > > > then you stick that shitstick up your puckered asshole. > > > > that will be a funny sight as well. > > > > LOL! > > > > fun fun fun fun funnnnnnnnnnnnyyyy. > > > > .b b.b. > > > I like that I'm getting you angry. Your passion moves me. Shows how much you do care, LOL! in your dreams. hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! i like toying with you that's all kid. > despite all your dog shit dogma about being the Big Impersonal Detached Nondoing > Nothing. > You're a plagiarist, Bob, and a bad one at that. oh? name and display this so called plagiarism dick tracy. nobody's good enough for me to bother taking their shit. i'm the best and only. get a life and put up or shut up punky. :-) > Your advaita sucks. I mean real child's play. I don't screw around with advaita... or any of that want to be " ever so mystical " bullshit. that shit IS child's play. nonsense like that is for children like you. which primer are you looking at the pictures of now? " me and my shadow not " ROFLMAO! > Please, Bob. > If you fancy yourself Buddha with a Shitstick, try your own asshole before waving it at > somebody else's. quit begging. it's almost as sickening and silly.. as your dumb ass attempts to be big and tough. but not quite. nothing could be as funny as that. wipe your ass and go to bed sonny. Yours might be too tight, though. First clean up all that dried up crusty > old dogma stuck up there. > And remember, don't mistake your Shitstick for the moon. don't repeat what i've said to you. it makes you out to be a follower. i don't except students and acolytes. and repitition disgusts me. if you parrot me one more time i might get nasty with you. i wouldn't want to treat a child like that but i will little duffer. > Take it easy, Bob. > Don't take life too hard. i don't take life at all snookums. not easy..not hard. that's your mistake. you think all this shit is important. you think it's serious business. LOL! get up off the crawling floor and grow up baby. and you get a D- for this poor ass attempt to be cool under fire. you're obviously just a hurt and scared and screaming small fry. move on little soldier. and put your cap gun and gi joe pajamas away. have a glass of warm milk.. and ask mommy to kiss you and make it all better. and stay the hell out of adult conversation you little twerp. ROFLMAO! this message brought to you by: the guru you wish you had but will never deserve, ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " loewe2009@ " <loewe2009@> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Have been reading a nice book titled: " The Meaning of Life " . I read > it twice, at the beach, in > > Phuket, Thailand. I can recommend this short and concise book of > Terry Eagleton. I should > > have been reading papers, but it was a short vacation and I decided > to take it easy and have > > some beer, too. > > > > Now, the point is that, in my opinion, all ancient writings (hindu, > buddhistic) are taken too > > literally and not metaphorically, as I would suggest. The same > applies to many christians, > > jews and (muslims), who take the old testament for what is written. > Fundamentalists, with > > other words. > > > > These writings describe! Like in all other writings, descriptions > are done to explain, to give > > meaning, to imbed (new) thoughts in an existent social > infrastructure (Other). > > > > Ricardo > > P: Reading such book on a short vacation > to escape winter in a tropical spot, shows > a mind to which Heaven itself would be > boring without words. Well, maybe, you're > hungrier for enlightenment than for > sunshine, and you feel that obsessing about > enlightenment is enlightening in itself. > > Or course, you are in the best position > to explore and learn from your own > restlessness. Why go to the other side > of the world, to read a book that you could > have read at home? It seems, you need to > make your peace with boredom. those who don't > make peace with it are sentenced to a life of > discontent. Dear Pedro, .....didn't travel to Thailand to read this book ) I met a nice travel guide with whom I could see and discover the island from a Thai perspective.... .....where do you locate the terms: boredom, obsession, enlightenment, restlessness, etc? .....would you be able to stop posting in all those groups you are a member, moderator or even owner to? .....how many hours do you spend daily reading and answering mails at these forums? Yours, Ricardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " loewe2009@ " <loewe2009@> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Have been reading a nice book titled: " The Meaning of Life " . I read > it twice, at the beach, in > > Phuket, Thailand. I can recommend this short and concise book of > Terry Eagleton. I should > > have been reading papers, but it was a short vacation and I decided > to take it easy and have > > some beer, too. > > > > Now, the point is that, in my opinion, all ancient writings (hindu, > buddhistic) are taken too > > literally and not metaphorically, as I would suggest. The same > applies to many christians, > > jews and (muslims), who take the old testament for what is written. > Fundamentalists, with > > other words. > > > > These writings describe! Like in all other writings, descriptions > are done to explain, to give > > meaning, to imbed (new) thoughts in an existent social > infrastructure (Other). > > > > Ricardo > > > > > The search for the meaning of life is not a sign of seriousness but it > is the escacpe from the pain of life. > > J. Krishnamurti Hi Werner, it is impossible to escape from 'pain'! It might be possible to escape from unnecessary suffering, e.g., due to pain. J.K. might be saying this by using the expression, " pain of life " . Seriousness? In my experience people talking about seriousness have been, on the long run, the least serious persons ever met in my life! Yours, Ricardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 i remain blind & enslaved with my false ego that "I know" hence not able to understand the master & i become a prostitute having read teachings of so many masters but having trust & faith towards none. i become a chatter box muttering words that i think are meant basically to outsmart others. i am continuing to build my knowledge gained from the books with my identity intact so that whatever i say is not out of inner experience but out of my self pride hence my words are conveyed to display my knowledge of the subject & presuming others to be ignorant fools. -mahesh roberibus111 <Roberibus111Nisargadatta Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 12:00:57 AM Re: Belief & Faith the first thing the little brown monkey N. would tell you..is lose any and all "masters".the only thing a "master" can and does do..is keep you blind and enslaved.do you think Nisargadatta would like that?or even want you calling him your master?he'd slap your face for that.maybe that would wake you from your nap..b b.b.Nisargadatta, Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@.. .> wrote:>> whatever i am is only because of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, you areright he has quoted it, i sing like a parrot in the company of mymaster. i have no words, it is only his insight that is speaking. i amstill in a cage dreaming about freedom. i corelate my freedom with mymaster though it is an imaginary dream it gives me complete satisfaction. > -mahesh > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> roberibus111 <Roberibus111@ ....>> Nisargadatta> Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:43:58 PM> Re: Belief & Faith> > > Nisargadatta, Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@ .> wrote:> >> > understand that it is not the individual which has consiousness, it> is the consiousness which assumes innummerable forms. that something> which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. in the absence of> this basic thought "I Am" there is no thought, there is no consiousness.> > - mahesh > > you're good at plagiarizing.> > putting your name directly underneath the above..> > WITHOUT quotation marks or crediting it's source..> > speaks everything that has to be spoken about you.> > what a loser.> > let's now give credit where credit is due...> > and expose your goddamn phoniness:> > "Understand that it is not the individual that has consciousness; it> is the consciousness which assumes innumerable forms. That something> which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. It is the child> of a barren woman. In the absence of this basic concept `I am', there> is no thought, there is no consciousness. "> > Nisargadatta: Prior to Consciousness> > quoted by:> > .b b.b.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 oh you go girl tiger! that's so..so.. so-so. not good..not bad.. just so..'just so'. pretty ordinary. it's better than a sleeping aid. yawwwwwwn!. and you're not off track about the " others " .. the ones you presume to be ignorant fools. everyone always sees 'themselves' in " others " . and that's a dead on description of your own sorry " self " . and 'bout your 'knowledge' of the subject.. lose the subjective self 'moment'.. and that 'object' you 'think' is the 'subject'.. the one you think you know so much about.. will dissolve into the unimportant non-existent that it is. and what you are not will shine as no self ever can. and you won't be around to pine away with such bullshit anymore. actually.. you never have been around but you don't realize that. when you do..that is " THAT " . as always, now, forever.. and into buzz lightyear's 'beyond'. gosh it's just swell! ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat wrote: > > i remain blind & enslaved with my false ego that " I know " hence not able to understand the master & i become a prostitute having read teachings of so many masters but having trust & faith towards none. i become a chatter box muttering words that i think are meant basically to outsmart others.. i am continuing to build my knowledge gained from the books with my identity intact so that whatever i say is not out of inner experience but out of my self pride hence my words are conveyed to display my knowledge of the subject & presuming others to be ignorant fools. > -mahesh > > > > ________________________________ > roberibus111 <Roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, March 1, 2009 12:00:57 AM > Re: Belief & Faith > > > the first thing the little brown monkey N. would tell you.. > > is lose any and all " masters " . > > the only thing a " master " can and does do.. > > is keep you blind and enslaved. > > do you think Nisargadatta would like that? > > or even want you calling him your master? > > he'd slap your face for that. > > maybe that would wake you from your nap. > > .b b.b. > > Nisargadatta, Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@ .> wrote: > > > > whatever i am is only because of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, you are > right he has quoted it, i sing like a parrot in the company of my > master. i have no words, it is only his insight that is speaking. i am > still in a cage dreaming about freedom. i corelate my freedom with my > master though it is an imaginary dream it gives me complete satisfaction. > > -mahesh > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > roberibus111 <Roberibus111@ ...> > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:43:58 PM > > Re: Belief & Faith > > > > > > Nisargadatta, Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@ .> wrote: > > > > > > understand that it is not the individual which has consiousness, it > > is the consiousness which assumes innummerable forms. that something > > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. in the absence of > > this basic thought " I Am " there is no thought, there is no consiousness. > > > - mahesh > > > > you're good at plagiarizing. > > > > putting your name directly underneath the above.. > > > > WITHOUT quotation marks or crediting it's source.. > > > > speaks everything that has to be spoken about you. > > > > what a loser. > > > > let's now give credit where credit is due... > > > > and expose your goddamn phoniness: > > > > " Understand that it is not the individual that has consciousness; it > > is the consciousness which assumes innumerable forms. That something > > which is born or which will die is purely imaginary. It is the child > > of a barren woman. In the absence of this basic concept `I am', there > > is no thought, there is no consciousness. " > > > > Nisargadatta: Prior to Consciousness > > > > quoted by: > > > > .b b.b. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 > > > > > > > > > > P: Reading such book on a short vacation > > to escape winter in a tropical spot, shows > > a mind to which Heaven itself would be > > boring without words. Well, maybe, you're > > hungrier for enlightenment than for > > sunshine, and you feel that obsessing about > > enlightenment is enlightening in itself. > > > > Or course, you are in the best position > > to explore and learn from your own > > restlessness. Why go to the other side > > of the world, to read a book that you could > > have read at home? It seems, you need to > > make your peace with boredom. those who don't > > make peace with it are sentenced to a life of > > discontent. > > > Dear Pedro, > > > R:....didn't travel to Thailand to read this book ) P: Of course you didn't, who would? But you read it there. So Thailand itself was not enough to entertain your mind. As you know, restlessness and discontent are basic human problems pointed out by Buddha as one of the aspects of dukkha. Even a pleasure like going to Thailand is rooted in dukkha and leads back to more dukkha because all pleasures end, and the mind becomes restless and dissatisfied again. If you feel that is not a problem in your life, I'm very glad for you. > > > R:....where do you locate the terms: boredom, obsession, enlightenment, restlessness, etc? That is a bogus question. One needs not to locate them, unless, one is studying brain's functions. Those are feelings, and feelings represent a problem, or they not. > > R:....would you be able to stop posting in all those groups you are a member, moderator or even owner to? P: I think I could, but why would I? To prove a point? I need not prove a thing to no one, including myself. It's a harmless, pleasurable activity, and as long as it's so, it will go on. > > R:....how many hours do you spend daily reading and answering mails at these forums? P: Two hours or less, it could be more, or less. Generally, I do no thing that doesn't me give pleasure. If one investigates the value system which makes activities unpleasant, one realizes that much unpleasantness comes from opinions and resistance. If one does a chore without opinions, and giving it due attention, then one finds out that it becomes neutral, or even pleasurable. Thanks for asking, answering you was fun, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Reading such book on a short vacation > > > to escape winter in a tropical spot, shows > > > a mind to which Heaven itself would be > > > boring without words. Well, maybe, you're > > > hungrier for enlightenment than for > > > sunshine, and you feel that obsessing about > > > enlightenment is enlightening in itself. > > > > > > Or course, you are in the best position > > > to explore and learn from your own > > > restlessness. Why go to the other side > > > of the world, to read a book that you could > > > have read at home? It seems, you need to > > > make your peace with boredom. those who don't > > > make peace with it are sentenced to a life of > > > discontent. > > > > > > Dear Pedro, > > > > > > R:....didn't travel to Thailand to read this book ) > > P: Of course you didn't, who would? But you read it > there. So Thailand itself was not enough to entertain > your mind. As you know, restlessness and discontent are > basic human problems pointed out by Buddha as one of the > aspects of dukkha. Even a pleasure like going to Thailand > is rooted in dukkha and leads back to more dukkha because > all pleasures end, and the mind becomes restless and > dissatisfied again. If you feel that is not a problem > in your life, I'm very glad for you. R: I experience dukkha. Not always but sometimes. What you write might be true. I accept dukkha (I am fasting today)or other people's dukkha. Sometimes I can help. Yes, it was a very pleaurable vacation. Restlessness and dissatisfation and yearning and, and, and. However these feeling do not reach the dimension of a problem. These feelings are pleasurable, too. They give you a feeling of airiness, of effortlessness, of warmth....Pedro, vacations are not bad!!! You also have a vacation soemtimes, I guess. Don't you feel more freshness, when you travel back home? > > R:....where do you locate the terms: boredom, obsession, > enlightenment, restlessness, etc? > > That is a bogus question. One needs not to locate them, > unless, one is studying brain's functions. Those are feelings, > and feelings represent a problem, or they not. > > > > R:....would you be able to stop posting in all those groups you are > a member, moderator or even owner to? > > P: I think I could, but why would I? To prove a point? > I need not prove a thing to no one, including myself. > It's a harmless, pleasurable activity, and as long as > it's so, it will go on. > > > > R:....how many hours do you spend daily reading and answering mails > at these forums? > > P: Two hours or less, it could be more, or less. > > Generally, I do no thing that doesn't me give pleasure. If one > investigates the value system which makes activities > unpleasant, one realizes that much unpleasantness comes > from opinions and resistance. If one does a chore without > opinions, and giving it due attention, then one finds out > that it becomes neutral, or even pleasurable. R: Yes!!! Very nice! Very true, in my opinion. I already know that you do no thing that doesn't give you pleasure. I am very glad for you! I have to do often things that do not give me pleasure. I accept the challenge and after a while some of them can become pleasurable. > Thanks for asking, answering you was fun, > > Pete R: Thanks to you, Pedro! Excellent writing. I am glad for your enlightenment but I wouldn't change with you. I can accept some suffering. I see suffering and pain every day - directly. And, I intervene and suffer, too. I don't understand this obsession of proving in public forums " enlightenment " . To always have to do things that give you pleasure might become in the long run boring too and cause more dukkha. Pedro, give it up to always have to have some sort of feelings that you consider better than others!!! You discriminate here extremely. Feeelings are feelings, not problems. To become a man, means to accept things as they appear. Things do not always need to be transformed in something pleasurable. Some people expose themselves, accept the challenge. To be a good person might be enough, i.e. to not harm others, to mean no harm, to be friendly and open to things. Yours, Ricardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.