Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears that there is someone or something " in there " . It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag of skin and bones. One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the entity inside one's personal sense of being. One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing entirely What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely unfounded in fact? What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the mind of man? What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no person? What if there were just this most amazing ripple in awareness.....with no particular location? Could you live with that? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears that > there is someone or something " in there " . > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag of skin > and bones. > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing entirely > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > unfounded in fact? > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the mind of > man? > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no person? > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in awareness.....with > no particular location? > > > Could you live with that? > > > > toombaru i dunno but.. evidently you can't. blathering on the way that you do. as for yourself.. i don't think there is anything " in there'.. and i don't think there's anything in what you write. i live quite nicely as well knowing that. by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, non-locally no one's. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears that > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag of skin > > and bones. > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > entirely > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > unfounded in fact? > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the mind of > > man? > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no person? > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in awareness.....with > > no particular location? > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > i dunno but.. > > evidently you can't. > > blathering on the way that you do. > > as for yourself.. > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > non-locally no one's. > > .b b.b. > There's a simple solution to that. Do not read or respond to what I write. I'm thinking that you will not be able to do that. I'm thinking that you are as lost as all the other assumptions of self and are here to because of the aching need to " figure things out " . If your condition is as you claim.....there is no reason to respond to what I write.......now or in the future. toombaru toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears that > > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag of skin > > > and bones. > > > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity > > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > > entirely > > > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > > unfounded in fact? > > > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the mind of > > > man? > > > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no person? > > > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in awareness.....with > > > no particular location? > > > > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > i dunno but.. > > > > evidently you can't. > > > > blathering on the way that you do. > > > > as for yourself.. > > > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > > > non-locally no one's. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > There's a simple solution to that. there's no problem that i'm aware of. what need of solution then? > Do not read or respond to what I write. i'll do whatever i like. just like you do. if 'we' 'do' anything at all actually. i dunno for sure. do 'you'? > > I'm thinking that you will not be able to do that. good for you. keep right in thinking that. i'm not responding to 'you'. i'm playing with me'self'. so are 'you'. 'you' just don't enjoy it though. that's understandable. > I'm thinking that you are as lost as all the other assumptions of self > and are here to because of the aching need to " figure things out " . go figure huh? LOL! > If your condition is as you claim.....there is no reason to respond to > what I write.......now or in the future. > > > > > toombaru > > > > toombaru well toombaru... > > well toombaru... > (in keeping with play as played above) there is no " future " .. Who needs " reasons " ? you believe that i believe.. in something or other that you want to believe that i believe. see there.. you play with your'self' too. 'were' just exactly the same. ain't love grand? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears > that > > > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag > of skin > > > > and bones. > > > > > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > > > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity > > > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > > > entirely > > > > > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > > > unfounded in fact? > > > > > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the > mind of > > > > man? > > > > > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no > person? > > > > > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in > awareness.....with > > > > no particular location? > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > i dunno but.. > > > > > > evidently you can't. > > > > > > blathering on the way that you do. > > > > > > as for yourself.. > > > > > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > > > > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > > > > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > > > > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > > > > > non-locally no one's. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > There's a simple solution to that. > > > > > > there's no problem that i'm aware of. > > what need of solution then? > > > > > > > Do not read or respond to what I write. i'll do whatever i like. > > just like you do. > > if 'we' 'do' anything at all actually. > > i dunno for sure. > > do 'you'? > > > > > > > > I'm thinking that you will not be able to do that. > > > > > > good for you. > > keep right in thinking that. > > i'm not responding to 'you'. > > i'm playing with me'self'. > > so are 'you'. > > 'you' just don't enjoy it though. > > that's understandable. > > > > > I'm thinking that you are as lost as all the other assumptions of self > > and are here to because of the aching need to " figure things out " . > > > > > go figure huh? > > LOL! > > > > > > If your condition is as you claim.....there is no reason to respond to > > what I write.......now or in the future. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > well toombaru... > > > > > well toombaru... > > > (in keeping with play as played above) > > > > there is no " future " .. > > Who needs " reasons " ? > > you believe that i believe.. > > in something or other that you want to believe that i believe. > > see there.. > > you play with your'self' too. > > 'were' just exactly the same. > > ain't love grand? > > .b b.b. > p.s. can you live with that? you have no choice. there's nothing in it anyway. unless you believe otherwise. but even if you do.. you're wrong. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears that > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag of skin > > and bones. > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > entirely > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > unfounded in fact? > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the mind of > > man? > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no person? > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in awareness.....with > > no particular location? > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > i dunno but.. > > evidently you can't. > > blathering on the way that you do. > > as for yourself.. > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > non-locally no one's. > > .b b.b. P: How wonderful you wrote that, because I had been thinking about how quantum events could be non local, and just the same appear locally at certain place and time. Maybe Toomb has a problem visualizing that. If you are watching TV, your program appears locally at your screen, but you know it was filmed at another location, and at a different time, and beamed to space, and bounced from a satellite to your TV. That is not hard to visualize. It's harder to think of your favorite chair, and yourself in the same way, but, indeed, it took the whole universe and billions of years to make you appear locally wherever you are. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears that > > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag of skin > > > and bones. > > > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity > > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > > entirely > > > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > > unfounded in fact? > > > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the mind of > > > man? > > > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no person? > > > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in awareness.....with > > > no particular location? > > > > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > i dunno but.. > > > > evidently you can't. > > > > blathering on the way that you do. > > > > as for yourself.. > > > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > > > non-locally no one's. > > > > .b b.b. > > P: How wonderful you wrote that, because I had > been thinking about how quantum events could be > non local, and just the same appear locally at > certain place and time. Maybe Toomb has a problem > visualizing that. If you are watching TV, your > program appears locally at your screen, but you > know it was filmed at another location, and at > a different time, and beamed to space, and bounced > from a satellite to your TV. That is not hard to > visualize. It's harder to think of your favorite > chair, and yourself in the same way, but, indeed, > it took the whole universe and billions of years > to make you appear locally wherever you are. thanks Pete. and you're right about non-locality and it's entanglement. i think toombaru just feels he's too " in " to be f***ed with. now that's " far out " . there's no one really f***ing with him but himself. toom feels he's the top of some hierarchy. he feels he should sit in a governing chancellery. but he sits in the same chancel as us all. sings in the same choir. our 'canticle for nothing' is the same song. he thinks 'his' tune is the solo Magnificat. i like to disabuse him of that notion. but he can't feel the beat. rather than telling me to go to hell... if he desires to be choirmaster.. he should go to church. though that may very well be telling him.. to go to the same place he tries to direct me. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears that > > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag of skin > > > and bones. > > > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity > > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > > entirely > > > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > > unfounded in fact? > > > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the mind of > > > man? > > > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no person? > > > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in awareness.....with > > > no particular location? > > > > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > i dunno but.. > > > > evidently you can't. > > > > blathering on the way that you do. > > > > as for yourself.. > > > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > > > non-locally no one's. > > > > .b b.b. > > P: How wonderful you wrote that, because I had > been thinking about how quantum events could be > non local, and just the same appear locally at > certain place and time. Maybe Toomb has a problem > visualizing that. If you are watching TV, your > program appears locally at your screen, but you > know it was filmed at another location, and at > a different time, and beamed to space, and bounced > from a satellite to your TV. That is not hard to > visualize. It's harder to think of your favorite > chair, and yourself in the same way, but, indeed, > it took the whole universe and billions of years > to make you appear locally wherever you are. > > > > And add to that the fact that " you " aren't and things get really confusing. :-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears > that > > > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag > of skin > > > > and bones. > > > > > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > > > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity > > > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > > > entirely > > > > > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > > > unfounded in fact? > > > > > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the > mind of > > > > man? > > > > > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no > person? > > > > > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in > awareness.....with > > > > no particular location? > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > i dunno but.. > > > > > > evidently you can't. > > > > > > blathering on the way that you do. > > > > > > as for yourself.. > > > > > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > > > > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > > > > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > > > > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > > > > > non-locally no one's. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > P: How wonderful you wrote that, because I had > > been thinking about how quantum events could be > > non local, and just the same appear locally at > > certain place and time. Maybe Toomb has a problem > > visualizing that. If you are watching TV, your > > program appears locally at your screen, but you > > know it was filmed at another location, and at > > a different time, and beamed to space, and bounced > > from a satellite to your TV. That is not hard to > > visualize. It's harder to think of your favorite > > chair, and yourself in the same way, but, indeed, > > it took the whole universe and billions of years > > to make you appear locally wherever you are. > > > > > > > > > > And add to that the fact that " you " aren't and things get really > confusing. > > > > > :-0 > And then consider that there is no such thing as a " location " anywhere in the universe. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears > that > > > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag > of skin > > > > and bones. > > > > > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > > > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity > > > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > > > entirely > > > > > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > > > unfounded in fact? > > > > > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the > mind of > > > > man? > > > > > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no > person? > > > > > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in > awareness.....with > > > > no particular location? > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > i dunno but.. > > > > > > evidently you can't. > > > > > > blathering on the way that you do. > > > > > > as for yourself.. > > > > > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > > > > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > > > > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > > > > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > > > > > non-locally no one's. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > P: How wonderful you wrote that, because I had > > been thinking about how quantum events could be > > non local, and just the same appear locally at > > certain place and time. Maybe Toomb has a problem > > visualizing that. If you are watching TV, your > > program appears locally at your screen, but you > > know it was filmed at another location, and at > > a different time, and beamed to space, and bounced > > from a satellite to your TV. That is not hard to > > visualize. It's harder to think of your favorite > > chair, and yourself in the same way, but, indeed, > > it took the whole universe and billions of years > > to make you appear locally wherever you are. > > > thanks Pete. > > and you're right about non-locality and it's entanglement. > > i think toombaru just feels he's too " in " to be f***ed with. > > now that's " far out " . > > there's no one really f***ing with him but himself. > > toom feels he's the top of some hierarchy. > > he feels he should sit in a governing chancellery. > > but he sits in the same chancel as us all. > > sings in the same choir. > > our 'canticle for nothing' is the same song. > > he thinks 'his' tune is the solo Magnificat. > > i like to disabuse him of that notion. > > but he can't feel the beat. > > rather than telling me to go to hell... > > if he desires to be choirmaster.. > > he should go to church. > > though that may very well be telling him.. > > to go to the same place he tries to direct me. > > :-) > > > .b b.b. > Perhaps you both spend too much time on this fellow toombaru and what you think he thinks. .......not that you have a choice. :-) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears > > that > > > > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > > > > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag > > of skin > > > > > and bones. > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > > > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > > > > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal > entity > > > > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > > > > entirely > > > > > > > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > > > > unfounded in fact? > > > > > > > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the > > mind of > > > > > man? > > > > > > > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no > > person? > > > > > > > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in > > awareness.....with > > > > > no particular location? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > i dunno but.. > > > > > > > > evidently you can't. > > > > > > > > blathering on the way that you do. > > > > > > > > as for yourself.. > > > > > > > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > > > > > > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > > > > > > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > > > > > > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > > > > > > > non-locally no one's. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > P: How wonderful you wrote that, because I had > > > been thinking about how quantum events could be > > > non local, and just the same appear locally at > > > certain place and time. Maybe Toomb has a problem > > > visualizing that. If you are watching TV, your > > > program appears locally at your screen, but you > > > know it was filmed at another location, and at > > > a different time, and beamed to space, and bounced > > > from a satellite to your TV. That is not hard to > > > visualize. It's harder to think of your favorite > > > chair, and yourself in the same way, but, indeed, > > > it took the whole universe and billions of years > > > to make you appear locally wherever you are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And add to that the fact that " you " aren't and things get really > > confusing. > > > > > > > > > > :-0 > And then consider that there is no such thing as a " location " anywhere > in the universe. toombaru what universe is there to consider? how can there be an " anywhere " .. if... as you say.... there is no such thing as location? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears > > that > > > > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > > > > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag > > of skin > > > > > and bones. > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > > > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > > > > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal > entity > > > > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > > > > entirely > > > > > > > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > > > > unfounded in fact? > > > > > > > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the > > mind of > > > > > man? > > > > > > > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no > > person? > > > > > > > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in > > awareness.....with > > > > > no particular location? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > i dunno but.. > > > > > > > > evidently you can't. > > > > > > > > blathering on the way that you do. > > > > > > > > as for yourself.. > > > > > > > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > > > > > > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > > > > > > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > > > > > > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > > > > > > > non-locally no one's. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > P: How wonderful you wrote that, because I had > > > been thinking about how quantum events could be > > > non local, and just the same appear locally at > > > certain place and time. Maybe Toomb has a problem > > > visualizing that. If you are watching TV, your > > > program appears locally at your screen, but you > > > know it was filmed at another location, and at > > > a different time, and beamed to space, and bounced > > > from a satellite to your TV. That is not hard to > > > visualize. It's harder to think of your favorite > > > chair, and yourself in the same way, but, indeed, > > > it took the whole universe and billions of years > > > to make you appear locally wherever you are. > > > > > > thanks Pete. > > > > and you're right about non-locality and it's entanglement. > > > > i think toombaru just feels he's too " in " to be f***ed with. > > > > now that's " far out " . > > > > there's no one really f***ing with him but himself. > > > > toom feels he's the top of some hierarchy. > > > > he feels he should sit in a governing chancellery. > > > > but he sits in the same chancel as us all. > > > > sings in the same choir. > > > > our 'canticle for nothing' is the same song. > > > > he thinks 'his' tune is the solo Magnificat. > > > > i like to disabuse him of that notion. > > > > but he can't feel the beat. > > > > rather than telling me to go to hell... > > > > if he desires to be choirmaster.. > > > > he should go to church. > > > > though that may very well be telling him.. > > > > to go to the same place he tries to direct me. > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Perhaps you both spend too much time on this fellow toombaru and what > you think he thinks. > > > ......not that you have a choice. > > > :-) > > > > toombaru ther is no " both " .... nor " this fellow toombaru'... nor a 'you' who would give advice. what you be talkin' 'bout? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears > > > that > > > > > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag > > > of skin > > > > > > and bones. > > > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > > > > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates > to the > > > > > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal > > entity > > > > > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > > > > > entirely > > > > > > > > > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > > > > > unfounded in fact? > > > > > > > > > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the > > > mind of > > > > > > man? > > > > > > > > > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no > > > person? > > > > > > > > > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in > > > awareness.....with > > > > > > no particular location? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i dunno but.. > > > > > > > > > > evidently you can't. > > > > > > > > > > blathering on the way that you do. > > > > > > > > > > as for yourself.. > > > > > > > > > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > > > > > > > > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > > > > > > > > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > > > > > > > > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > > > > > > > > > non-locally no one's. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > P: How wonderful you wrote that, because I had > > > > been thinking about how quantum events could be > > > > non local, and just the same appear locally at > > > > certain place and time. Maybe Toomb has a problem > > > > visualizing that. If you are watching TV, your > > > > program appears locally at your screen, but you > > > > know it was filmed at another location, and at > > > > a different time, and beamed to space, and bounced > > > > from a satellite to your TV. That is not hard to > > > > visualize. It's harder to think of your favorite > > > > chair, and yourself in the same way, but, indeed, > > > > it took the whole universe and billions of years > > > > to make you appear locally wherever you are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And add to that the fact that " you " aren't and things get really > > > confusing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then consider that there is no such thing as a " location " anywhere > > in the universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > what universe is there to consider? > > how can there be an " anywhere " .. > > if... as you say.... there is no such thing as location? > > .b b.b. > Is there a " location " two hundred miles South of earth? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears > > > that > > > > > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag > > > of skin > > > > > > and bones. > > > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > > > > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates > to the > > > > > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal > > entity > > > > > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > > > > > entirely > > > > > > > > > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > > > > > unfounded in fact? > > > > > > > > > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the > > > mind of > > > > > > man? > > > > > > > > > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no > > > person? > > > > > > > > > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in > > > awareness.....with > > > > > > no particular location? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i dunno but.. > > > > > > > > > > evidently you can't. > > > > > > > > > > blathering on the way that you do. > > > > > > > > > > as for yourself.. > > > > > > > > > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > > > > > > > > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > > > > > > > > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > > > > > > > > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > > > > > > > > > non-locally no one's. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > P: How wonderful you wrote that, because I had > > > > been thinking about how quantum events could be > > > > non local, and just the same appear locally at > > > > certain place and time. Maybe Toomb has a problem > > > > visualizing that. If you are watching TV, your > > > > program appears locally at your screen, but you > > > > know it was filmed at another location, and at > > > > a different time, and beamed to space, and bounced > > > > from a satellite to your TV. That is not hard to > > > > visualize. It's harder to think of your favorite > > > > chair, and yourself in the same way, but, indeed, > > > > it took the whole universe and billions of years > > > > to make you appear locally wherever you are. > > > > > > > > > thanks Pete. > > > > > > and you're right about non-locality and it's entanglement. > > > > > > i think toombaru just feels he's too " in " to be f***ed with. > > > > > > now that's " far out " . > > > > > > there's no one really f***ing with him but himself. > > > > > > toom feels he's the top of some hierarchy. > > > > > > he feels he should sit in a governing chancellery. > > > > > > but he sits in the same chancel as us all. > > > > > > sings in the same choir. > > > > > > our 'canticle for nothing' is the same song. > > > > > > he thinks 'his' tune is the solo Magnificat. > > > > > > i like to disabuse him of that notion. > > > > > > but he can't feel the beat. > > > > > > rather than telling me to go to hell... > > > > > > if he desires to be choirmaster.. > > > > > > he should go to church. > > > > > > though that may very well be telling him.. > > > > > > to go to the same place he tries to direct me. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you both spend too much time on this fellow toombaru and what > > you think he thinks. > > > > > > ......not that you have a choice. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > there is no " both " .... nor " this fellow toombaru'... > > nor a 'you' who would give advice. > > what you be talkin' 'bout? > > .b b.b. > :-) t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it > appears > > > > that > > > > > > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag > > > > of skin > > > > > > > and bones. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an > actual > > > > > > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates > > to the > > > > > > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal > > > entity > > > > > > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be > missing > > > > > > entirely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > > > > > > unfounded in fact? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the > > > > mind of > > > > > > > man? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no > > > > person? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in > > > > awareness.....with > > > > > > > no particular location? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i dunno but.. > > > > > > > > > > > > evidently you can't. > > > > > > > > > > > > blathering on the way that you do. > > > > > > > > > > > > as for yourself.. > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > > > > > > > > > > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > > > > > > > > > > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > > > > > > > > > > > non-locally no one's. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > P: How wonderful you wrote that, because I had > > > > > been thinking about how quantum events could be > > > > > non local, and just the same appear locally at > > > > > certain place and time. Maybe Toomb has a problem > > > > > visualizing that. If you are watching TV, your > > > > > program appears locally at your screen, but you > > > > > know it was filmed at another location, and at > > > > > a different time, and beamed to space, and bounced > > > > > from a satellite to your TV. That is not hard to > > > > > visualize. It's harder to think of your favorite > > > > > chair, and yourself in the same way, but, indeed, > > > > > it took the whole universe and billions of years > > > > > to make you appear locally wherever you are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And add to that the fact that " you " aren't and things get really > > > > confusing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then consider that there is no such thing as a " location " anywhere > > > in the universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > what universe is there to consider? > > > > how can there be an " anywhere " .. > > > > if... as you say.... there is no such thing as location? > > > > .b b.b. > Is there a " location " two hundred miles South of earth? > > > > > toombaru depends. where's the earth located? anywhere? what the fuck is South? where you come from? interesting..not. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it > appears > > > > that > > > > > > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag > > > > of skin > > > > > > > and bones. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an > actual > > > > > > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates > > to the > > > > > > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal > > > entity > > > > > > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be > missing > > > > > > entirely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > > > > > > unfounded in fact? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the > > > > mind of > > > > > > > man? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no > > > > person? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in > > > > awareness.....with > > > > > > > no particular location? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i dunno but.. > > > > > > > > > > > > evidently you can't. > > > > > > > > > > > > blathering on the way that you do. > > > > > > > > > > > > as for yourself.. > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > > > > > > > > > > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > > > > > > > > > > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > > > > > > > > > > > non-locally no one's. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > P: How wonderful you wrote that, because I had > > > > > been thinking about how quantum events could be > > > > > non local, and just the same appear locally at > > > > > certain place and time. Maybe Toomb has a problem > > > > > visualizing that. If you are watching TV, your > > > > > program appears locally at your screen, but you > > > > > know it was filmed at another location, and at > > > > > a different time, and beamed to space, and bounced > > > > > from a satellite to your TV. That is not hard to > > > > > visualize. It's harder to think of your favorite > > > > > chair, and yourself in the same way, but, indeed, > > > > > it took the whole universe and billions of years > > > > > to make you appear locally wherever you are. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks Pete. > > > > > > > > and you're right about non-locality and it's entanglement. > > > > > > > > i think toombaru just feels he's too " in " to be f***ed with. > > > > > > > > now that's " far out " . > > > > > > > > there's no one really f***ing with him but himself. > > > > > > > > toom feels he's the top of some hierarchy. > > > > > > > > he feels he should sit in a governing chancellery. > > > > > > > > but he sits in the same chancel as us all. > > > > > > > > sings in the same choir. > > > > > > > > our 'canticle for nothing' is the same song. > > > > > > > > he thinks 'his' tune is the solo Magnificat. > > > > > > > > i like to disabuse him of that notion. > > > > > > > > but he can't feel the beat. > > > > > > > > rather than telling me to go to hell... > > > > > > > > if he desires to be choirmaster.. > > > > > > > > he should go to church. > > > > > > > > though that may very well be telling him.. > > > > > > > > to go to the same place he tries to direct me. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you both spend too much time on this fellow toombaru and what > > > you think he thinks. > > > > > > > > > ......not that you have a choice. > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > there is no " both " .... nor " this fellow toombaru'... > > > > nor a 'you' who would give advice. > > > > what you be talkin' 'bout? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > :-) > > > > t. Finally! man you are one tough audience. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears that > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag of skin > > and bones. > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > entirely > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > unfounded in fact? > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the mind of > > man? > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no person? > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in awareness.....with > > no particular location? > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > i dunno but.. > > evidently you can't. - yes, he can't! BUT....who cares??? " bbb " ??? " bbb " can very well react on ghosts??? wow " bbb " is a champion!!! a champion on duality!!! .... who is " bbb " ??? nothing nobody except a little mind fiction.... a little cloud.... a little nothing... thinking to somebody...beside of " God " ... bad boy!!! > > blathering on the way that you do. > > as for yourself.. > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > non-locally no one's. > > .b b.b. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears that > > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag of skin > > > and bones. > > > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity > > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > > entirely > > > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > > unfounded in fact? > > > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the mind of > > > man? > > > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no person? > > > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in awareness.....with > > > no particular location? > > > > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > i dunno but.. > > > > evidently you can't. > > > > blathering on the way that you do. > > > > as for yourself.. > > > > i don't think there is anything " in there'.. > > > > and i don't think there's anything in what you write. > > > > i live quite nicely as well knowing that. > > > > by the power of the Copenhagen Interpretation i remain, > > > > non-locally no one's. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > There's a simple solution to that. > > Do not read or respond to what I write. > > I'm thinking that you will not be able to do that. > > I'm thinking that you are as lost as all the other assumptions of self > and are here to because of the aching need to " figure things out " . > > If your condition is as you claim.....there is no reason to respond to > what I write.......now or in the future. > > > > > toombaru > > > i imagine bbb can't.....that he isn't able to do that.... let's see.... Marc Ps: who is bbb again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 i don't agree on salamander, I feel an entity there too! i agree that the assumption is unfounded in facts the question stands alone: could you live like that? Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears that > there is someone or something " in there " . > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag of skin > and bones. > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing entirely > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > unfounded in fact? > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the mind of > man? > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no person? > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in awareness.....with > no particular location? > > > Could you live with that? > > > > toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " paolo.quarantelli " <paolo.quarantelli wrote: > > > > > i don't agree on salamander, I feel an entity there too! > i agree that the assumption is unfounded in facts > > the question stands alone: > > could you live like that? sure, we can... there is nobody who coudn't live like that.... seeing anybody who coult(n't)? Marc > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > When one looks at another person.....or at oneself....it appears > that > > there is someone or something " in there " . > > > > It looks like some sort of entity lives inside that little bag of > skin > > and bones. > > > > One looks at a dog or a cat and it feels like there is an actual > > entity.......beyond the physical organism......that relates to the > > entity inside one's personal sense of being. > > > > One looks at a rat or a bird and the appearance of a personal entity > > becomes less apparent......it seems to fade. > > > > One looks at a salamander or a spider and it seems to be missing > entirely > > > > What if this assumption of there being an entity was entirely > > unfounded in fact? > > > > What if the entity exists only as an conceptual amalgam in the mind > of > > man? > > > > What if there were no psychological entity.....no soul......no > person? > > > > What if there were just this most amazing ripple in > awareness.....with > > no particular location? > > > > > > Could you live with that? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " paolo.quarantelli " <paolo.quarantelli wrote: > > > > > i don't agree on salamander, I feel an entity there too! > i agree that the assumption is unfounded in facts > > the question stands alone: > > could you live like that? > > > > Could you live with the fact that all sentient beings.........in fact all living organism.......... were merely reactive-reproductive machinery...........(including your self)? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " paolo.quarantelli " > <paolo.quarantelli@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > i don't agree on salamander, I feel an entity there too! > > i agree that the assumption is unfounded in facts > > > > the question stands alone: > > > > could you live like that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you live with the fact that all sentient beings.........in fact > all living organism.......... were merely reactive-reproductive > machinery...........(including your self)? > > > > > toombaru if he or anyone can't live with that.. they can't live at all. can you live with the fact that that's obvious.. obvious for everyone and not just toomie? machine that dude. some folks worry that computers will begin to think like man. some men like yourself think like computers. that's not hard to live with though. it's just laughable. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " paolo.quarantelli " > > <paolo.quarantelli@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't agree on salamander, I feel an entity there too! > > > i agree that the assumption is unfounded in facts > > > > > > the question stands alone: > > > > > > could you live like that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you live with the fact that all sentient beings.........in fact > > all living organism.......... were merely reactive-reproductive > > machinery...........(including your self)? > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > if he or anyone can't live with that.. > > they can't live at all. > > can you live with the fact that that's obvious.. > > obvious for everyone and not just toomie? > > machine that dude. > > some folks worry that computers will begin to think like man. > > some men like yourself think like computers. > > that's not hard to live with though. > > it's just laughable. > > .b b.b. > Is that what you believe? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " paolo.quarantelli " > > > <paolo.quarantelli@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't agree on salamander, I feel an entity there too! > > > > i agree that the assumption is unfounded in facts > > > > > > > > the question stands alone: > > > > > > > > could you live like that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you live with the fact that all sentient beings.........in fact > > > all living organism.......... were merely reactive-reproductive > > > machinery...........(including your self)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > if he or anyone can't live with that.. > > > > they can't live at all. > > > > can you live with the fact that that's obvious.. > > > > obvious for everyone and not just toomie? > > > > machine that dude. > > > > some folks worry that computers will begin to think like man. > > > > some men like yourself think like computers. > > > > that's not hard to live with though. > > > > it's just laughable. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Is that what you believe? > > > > toombaru yes. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " paolo.quarantelli " > > > > <paolo.quarantelli@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't agree on salamander, I feel an entity there too! > > > > > i agree that the assumption is unfounded in facts > > > > > > > > > > the question stands alone: > > > > > > > > > > could you live like that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you live with the fact that all sentient beings.........in > fact > > > > all living organism.......... were merely reactive- reproductive > > > > machinery...........(including your self)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > if he or anyone can't live with that.. > > > > > > they can't live at all. > > > > > > can you live with the fact that that's obvious.. > > > > > > obvious for everyone and not just toomie? > > > > > > machine that dude. > > > > > > some folks worry that computers will begin to think like man. > > > > > > some men like yourself think like computers. > > > > > > that's not hard to live with though. > > > > > > it's just laughable. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Is that what you believe? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > yes. > > .b b.b. > Dual Champion and beloved evident son of God, bbb why don't you pray to this your beloved evidence of God....instead to endlessly fool around here for nothing at all.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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