Belief & Faith (sequential supplement)[annotation]

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " loewe2009@ " <loewe2009@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " loewe2009@ " <loewe2009@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " charlieaugust10 "

> > > > > > <charlieaugust10@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Mahesh Kamat

> > > <mv.kamat@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the sky is not affected by the sun, moon, earth, other

> > > planets,

> > > > > > > > comets, stars, clouds, lightening, wind, fire, black

> > > hole etc.

> > > > > > > > everything exists within it  & its presence is in

> > > > > > everything. within it

> > > > > > > > everything that exists is in action, it is in state of

> > > inaction.

> > > > > > it is

> > > > > > > > unaware of the great sun, beautiful moon, miraculous

planet

> > > > > > earth. it

> > > > > > > > holds everything togather with intense love. everything

> > > that

> > > > > > exists is

> > > > > > > > born in its formless attire, grows in its,

disintegrates in

> > > > > > it. To

> > > > > > > > become one with it & remain forever.

> > > > > > > > > - mahesh             

> > > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to get one with oneself is of no choice, anyway.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > get Real, mahesh!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Wow. Wow. Wow.

> > > > > > > I mean, wow. I just read this entire thread and...wow.

> > > > > > > A real arena of mud slinging.

> > > > > > > (And please somebody do not tell me there is no mud and no

> > > > > > slinging, or that I am the

> > > > > > > mud and the slinging, or any more thoroughly tired and

> > > recycled

> > > > > > advaita garbage.

> > > > > > > Is there any simple human affection on this site? Any?)

> > > > > > > By the way, I was raised Catholic.

> > > > > > > I've never read Lacan.

> > > > > > > I thought the original message, though a bit lecturesome,

> > > raised

> > > > > > some interesting issues:

> > > > > > > namely, the cliquishness and egotism and exclusive

jargon of

> > > most

> > > > > > groups, be they

> > > > > > > Catholic or Hindu or even if they (quite aggressively)

> > > profess to

> > > > > > be beyond it all.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > Lacan was catholic. Didn't practice the religion, as far as I

> > > know. I recommend the

> > > > reading

> > > > > of Zizek instead of Lacan's original opus, for those interested

> > > in Lacan. It can take

> > > > several

> > > > > years to find out what Lacan is talking about and there's much

> > > unnecessary blah, blah,

> > > > > blah without importance. Lacan appears to have been a big

> > > a..hole!

> > > > >

> > > > > Nonduality is a great tool....but just a tool. When used, take

> > > care of it as if it was your

> > > > own

> > > > > tool. Keep it clean. Give it to another, who needs it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ricardo

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " No-body can be beyond all.....! "

> > > >

> > > > BTW, what's 'all'?.....might be very easy to say it is 'one " .

Maybe

> > > too easy. But, why should

> > > > 'all' be 'one'? Does it matter?

> > > >

> > > > Who cares?

> > > >

> > > > Ricardo

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ego is " all " of " one " imaginary " one "

> > >

> > > it doesn't matter about the size of ego....about the size of an

> > > imaginary world....

> > >

> > > what is the size of a thought then?...

> > >

> > > ....

> > >

> > > nobody cares

> > >

> > > ....

> > >

> > > Nobody & Nothing can be behond " all " this " one " fiction of ego....

> > >

> > > there can't be anything behond any fictions....

> > >

> > >

> > > Marc

> >

> >

> > is that a belief that you don't have faith...

> >

> > or a lack of belief that you do have faith?

> >

> > do you have faith that you don't believe..

> >

> > or do you not have faith that you do believe?

> >

> > are you faithful to any or all of that?

> >

> > do you believe that you are not faithful to all or any of that?

> >

> > do you have faith that you can have faith in belief..or not..

> >

> > or not not neither nor?

> >

> > is there a you that can " do " all or none of the above?

> >

> > is the above the below?.

> >

> > mainly and namely:

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> >

> > p.s.

> >

> > don't whatever the hell you do believe me.

> >

> > got nothing to believe in.

>

>

> i doubt that you'll believe me.

>

> i don't believe that you will not doubt me.

>

> i have faith in the belief that you may not doubt me.

>

> i can't have faith in the belief that i doubt that you won't..

>

> believe me and not doubt me that is.

>

> how-some-ever..

>

> nah..

>

> forget it.

>

> who can believe they have enough faith to doubt they doubt belief

>

> only the true believer..in doubting.

>

> but i doubt that too

>

> Red Ryder's:

>

> .b b.b.

>

> (don't shoot the messenger)

 

 

don't doubt that you can doubt me.

 

believe me that you can.

 

i don't doubt that at all.

 

..b b.b.