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........the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable part of human

behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an illusion to think

that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious belief. Men would

rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of the fittest has

occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called Gause's law holds

that competition is maximal between species with identical needs (…) Even

submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults involve willing

subordination of the individual to the group. Religious practices confer

biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1) objectification

(the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are easily understood

and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind of tribalism

enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that explain the

tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating supernatural forces

struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The three great religion

categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and scientific

materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an independent

intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to come and will

not be replaced by scientific materialism.

 

.....wikipedia

 

Ricardo

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Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy wrote:

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> .......the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable part of human

behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an illusion to think

that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious belief. Men would

rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of the fittest has

occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called Gause's law holds

that competition is maximal between species with identical needs (…) Even

submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults involve willing

subordination of the individual to the group. Religious practices confer

biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1) objectification

(the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are easily understood

and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind of tribalism

enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that explain the

tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating supernatural forces

struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The three great religion

categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and scientific

materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an independent

intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to come and will

not be replaced by scientific materialism.

>

> ....wikipedia

>

> Ricardo

 

 

But Oh! Scientific spiritualism is what scientific theory is all about. It's all

faith based nonsense. Situational ethics and thought that change with the times.

Whatever the hell time is. It's not material stuff anyway.

 

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Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy wrote:

>

> .......the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable part of human

behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an illusion to think

that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious belief. Men would

rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of the fittest has

occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called Gause's law holds

that competition is maximal between species with identical needs (…) Even

submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults involve willing

subordination of the individual to the group. Religious practices confer

biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1) objectification

(the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are easily understood

and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind of tribalism

enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that explain the

tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating supernatural forces

struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The three great religion

categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and scientific

materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an independent

intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to come and will

not be replaced by scientific materialism.

>

> ....wikipedia

>

> Ricardo

>

 

 

Hi Ricardo,

 

Some years ago I met a guy who used the same nick as you do. He was a Lacan fan

and studied archeology. His mother was from Norway and his father was a Navajo.

 

A coincidence ?

 

Werner

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@> wrote:

> >

> > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable part of

human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an illusion to

think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious belief. Men

would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of the fittest

has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called Gause's law

holds that competition is maximal between species with identical needs (…) Even

submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults involve willing

subordination of the individual to the group. Religious practices confer

biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1) objectification

(the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are easily understood

and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind of tribalism

enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that explain the

tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating supernatural forces

struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The three great religion

categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and scientific

materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an independent

intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to come and will

not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> >

> > ....wikipedia

> >

> > Ricardo

> >

>

>

> Hi Ricardo,

>

> Some years ago I met a guy who used the same nick as you do. He was a Lacan

fan and studied archeology. His mother was from Norway and his father was a

Navajo.

>

> A coincidence ?

>

> Werner

 

 

 

 

 

a coincidence?

 

no..

 

a navajo/norwegian mix mutt.

 

smoke signals over norway.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy wrote:

>

> .......the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable part of human

behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an illusion to think

that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious belief. Men would

rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of the fittest has

occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called Gause's law holds

that competition is maximal between species with identical needs (…) Even

submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults involve willing

subordination of the individual to the group. Religious practices confer

biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1) objectification

(the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are easily understood

and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind of tribalism

enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that explain the

tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating supernatural forces

struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The three great religion

categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and scientific

materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an independent

intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to come and will

not be replaced by scientific materialism.

>

> ....wikipedia

>

> Ricardo

>

 

 

 

This explains a lot.

 

One wonders if the conceptual mind can think its way out of its own parameters.

 

 

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> >

>

>

>

> This explains a lot.

>

> One wonders if the conceptual mind can think its way out of its own

parameters.

>

>

> toombaru

 

P: Sure it can! It can think of new ones, but

without parameters it wouldn't be a mind. Words

like " infinite mind " are nonsense. All minds operate

within, and are limited by knowledge.

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Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

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>

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > This explains a lot.

> >

> > One wonders if the conceptual mind can think its way out of its own

parameters.

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

> P: Sure it can! It can think of new ones, but

> without parameters it wouldn't be a mind. Words

> like " infinite mind " are nonsense. All minds operate

> within, and are limited by knowledge.

> >

>

 

 

 

So there's no way out of this?

 

 

:-0

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This explains a lot.

> > >

> > > One wonders if the conceptual mind can think its way out of its own

parameters.

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> > P: Sure it can! It can think of new ones, but

> > without parameters it wouldn't be a mind. Words

> > like " infinite mind " are nonsense. All minds operate

> > within, and are limited by knowledge.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

> So there's no way out of this?

>

>

> :-0

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

 

 

 

 

this?

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This explains a lot.

> > >

> > > One wonders if the conceptual mind can think its way out of its own

parameters.

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> > P: Sure it can! It can think of new ones, but

> > without parameters it wouldn't be a mind. Words

> > like " infinite mind " are nonsense. All minds operate

> > within, and are limited by knowledge.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

> So there's no way out of this?

>

>

> :-0

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

P: Of course there isn't. It's the mind which

is asking. The mind is not constant, but it

cannot remember when it's not there. So it

has this sense of being its own prisoner. It's

much the same situation as if the warden of a

prison were to suffer a peculiar kind of amnesia,

in which he would not remember the hours he spends

outside the prison. Since his memory works, only

when at work, he thinks he is a prisoner himself.

 

 

>

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Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > This explains a lot.

> > > >

> > > > One wonders if the conceptual mind can think its way out of its own

parameters.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > > P: Sure it can! It can think of new ones, but

> > > without parameters it wouldn't be a mind. Words

> > > like " infinite mind " are nonsense. All minds operate

> > > within, and are limited by knowledge.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > So there's no way out of this?

> >

> >

> > :-0

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

> P: Of course there isn't. It's the mind which

> is asking. The mind is not constant, but it

> cannot remember when it's not there. So it

> has this sense of being its own prisoner. It's

> much the same situation as if the warden of a

> prison were to suffer a peculiar kind of amnesia,

> in which he would not remember the hours he spends

> outside the prison. Since his memory works, only

> when at work, he thinks he is a prisoner himself.

 

 

nice metaphor Pete.

 

it may well be that the " outside " he forgets..

 

is just another kind of prison anyway.

 

should the warden walk the green mile..

 

at it's end lies the end of his world..

 

the end of the inconstant illusion.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy wrote:

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> .......the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable part of human

behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an illusion to think

that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious belief. Men would

rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of the fittest has

occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called Gause's law holds

that competition is maximal between species with identical needs (…) Even

submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults involve willing

subordination of the individual to the group. Religious practices confer

biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1) objectification

(the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are easily understood

and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind of tribalism

enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that explain the

tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating supernatural forces

struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The three great religion

categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and scientific

materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an independent

intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to come and will

not be replaced by scientific materialism.

>

> ....wikipedia

>

> Ricardo

 

Namaste R,

 

I think your semantics could be different....substitute superstition and spirit

belief for religion and you have the condition of humans prior to c2000 years

ago and since.

 

People will always have superstition but organised religion is a new

phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

These are all started by men and manipulators and they have no real relevance

and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least superstition refers

to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non existant personal

god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

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Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@> wrote:

> >

> > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable part of

human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an illusion to

think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious belief. Men

would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of the fittest

has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called Gause's law

holds that competition is maximal between species with identical needs (…) Even

submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults involve willing

subordination of the individual to the group. Religious practices confer

biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1) objectification

(the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are easily understood

and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind of tribalism

enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that explain the

tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating supernatural forces

struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The three great religion

categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and scientific

materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an independent

intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to come and will

not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> >

> > ....wikipedia

> >

> > Ricardo

>

> Namaste R,

>

> I think your semantics could be different....substitute superstition and

spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans prior to c2000

years ago and since.

>

> People will always have superstition but organised religion is a new

phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

> These are all started by men and manipulators and they have no real relevance

and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least superstition refers

to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non existant personal

god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

 

the gods have spoken!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@> wrote:

> > >

> > > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable part of

human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an illusion to

think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious belief. Men

would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of the fittest

has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called Gause's law

holds that competition is maximal between species with identical needs (…) Even

submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults involve willing

subordination of the individual to the group. Religious practices confer

biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1) objectification

(the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are easily understood

and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind of tribalism

enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that explain the

tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating supernatural forces

struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The three great religion

categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and scientific

materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an independent

intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to come and will

not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> > >

> > > ....wikipedia

> > >

> > > Ricardo

> >

> > Namaste R,

> >

> > I think your semantics could be different....substitute superstition and

spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans prior to c2000

years ago and since.

> >

> > People will always have superstition but organised religion is a new

phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

> > These are all started by men and manipulators and they have no real

relevance and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least

superstition refers to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non

existant personal god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

>

> the gods have spoken!

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

 

 

They have listened and thus the gods speak:

 

within the dream

everything is possible

nothing is preordained.

 

;-)

 

~A

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Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable part of

human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an illusion to

think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious belief. Men

would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of the fittest

has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called Gause's law

holds that competition is maximal between species with identical needs (…) Even

submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults involve willing

subordination of the individual to the group. Religious practices confer

biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1) objectification

(the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are easily understood

and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind of tribalism

enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that explain the

tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating supernatural forces

struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The three great religion

categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and scientific

materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an independent

intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to come and will

not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> > > >

> > > > ....wikipedia

> > > >

> > > > Ricardo

> > >

> > > Namaste R,

> > >

> > > I think your semantics could be different....substitute superstition and

spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans prior to c2000

years ago and since.

> > >

> > > People will always have superstition but organised religion is a new

phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

> > > These are all started by men and manipulators and they have no real

relevance and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least

superstition refers to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non

existant personal god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

> >

> > the gods have spoken!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

>

>

> They have listened and thus the gods speak:

>

> within the dream

> everything is possible

> nothing is preordained.

>

> ;-)

>

> ~A

>

 

 

 

Hey............wait a minute...........I thought there were no separate things.

 

 

:-0

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable part

of human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an illusion to

think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious belief. Men

would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of the fittest

has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called Gause's law

holds that competition is maximal between species with identical needs (…) Even

submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults involve willing

subordination of the individual to the group. Religious practices confer

biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1) objectification

(the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are easily understood

and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind of tribalism

enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that explain the

tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating supernatural forces

struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The three great religion

categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and scientific

materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an independent

intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to come and will

not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> > > > >

> > > > > ....wikipedia

> > > > >

> > > > > Ricardo

> > > >

> > > > Namaste R,

> > > >

> > > > I think your semantics could be different....substitute superstition and

spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans prior to c2000

years ago and since.

> > > >

> > > > People will always have superstition but organised religion is a new

phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

> > > > These are all started by men and manipulators and they have no real

relevance and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least

superstition refers to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non

existant personal god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

> > >

> > > the gods have spoken!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > They have listened and thus the gods speak:

> >

> > within the dream

> > everything is possible

> > nothing is preordained.

> >

> > ;-)

> >

> > ~A

> >

>

>

>

> Hey............wait a minute...........I thought there were no separate

things.

>

>

> :-0

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

 

:-)

 

we cannot separate fact from fiction..

 

we from thee or thee from me..

 

minutes from eons..

 

waiting from going..

 

from from from

 

oh hell..you know what i mean.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable

part of human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an

illusion to think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious

belief. Men would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of

the fittest has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called

Gause's law holds that competition is maximal between species with identical

needs (…) Even submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults

involve willing subordination of the individual to the group. Religious

practices confer biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1)

objectification (the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are

easily understood and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind

of tribalism enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that

explain the tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating

supernatural forces struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The

three great religion categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and

scientific materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an

independent intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to

come and will not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ....wikipedia

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ricardo

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste R,

> > > > >

> > > > > I think your semantics could be different....substitute superstition

and spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans prior to

c2000 years ago and since.

> > > > >

> > > > > People will always have superstition but organised religion is a new

phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

> > > > > These are all started by men and manipulators and they have no real

relevance and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least

superstition refers to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non

existant personal god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

> > > >

> > > > the gods have spoken!

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > They have listened and thus the gods speak:

> > >

> > > within the dream

> > > everything is possible

> > > nothing is preordained.

> > >

> > > ;-)

> > >

> > > ~A

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hey............wait a minute...........I thought there were no separate

things.

> >

> >

> > :-0

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

> :-)

>

> we cannot separate fact from fiction..

>

> we from thee or thee from me..

>

> minutes from eons..

>

> waiting from going..

>

> from from from

>

> oh hell..you know what i mean.

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

 

 

Well.......I think I know what I think you are saying after what you say is

cross referenced and compared to and interpolated with my personal

perceptual-conceptual interface........

 

:-0

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable

part of human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an

illusion to think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious

belief. Men would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of

the fittest has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called

Gause's law holds that competition is maximal between species with identical

needs (…) Even submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults

involve willing subordination of the individual to the group. Religious

practices confer biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1)

objectification (the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are

easily understood and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind

of tribalism enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that

explain the tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating

supernatural forces struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The

three great religion categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and

scientific materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an

independent intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to

come and will not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ....wikipedia

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ricardo

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste R,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think your semantics could be different....substitute superstition

and spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans prior to

c2000 years ago and since.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > People will always have superstition but organised religion is a new

phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

> > > > > > These are all started by men and manipulators and they have no real

relevance and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least

superstition refers to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non

existant personal god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

> > > > >

> > > > > the gods have spoken!

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > They have listened and thus the gods speak:

> > > >

> > > > within the dream

> > > > everything is possible

> > > > nothing is preordained.

> > > >

> > > > ;-)

> > > >

> > > > ~A

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hey............wait a minute...........I thought there were no separate

things.

> > >

> > >

> > > :-0

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > we cannot separate fact from fiction..

> >

> > we from thee or thee from me..

> >

> > minutes from eons..

> >

> > waiting from going..

> >

> > from from from

> >

> > oh hell..you know what i mean.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

>

>

> Well.......I think I know what I think you are saying after what you say is

cross referenced and compared to and interpolated with my personal

perceptual-conceptual interface........

>

> :-0

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

 

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable

part of human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an

illusion to think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious

belief. Men would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of

the fittest has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called

Gause's law holds that competition is maximal between species with identical

needs (…) Even submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults

involve willing subordination of the individual to the group. Religious

practices confer biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1)

objectification (the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are

easily understood and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind

of tribalism enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that

explain the tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating

supernatural forces struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The

three great religion categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and

scientific materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an

independent intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to

come and will not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ....wikipedia

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ricardo

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste R,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think your semantics could be different....substitute

superstition and spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans

prior to c2000 years ago and since.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > People will always have superstition but organised religion is a

new phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

> > > > > > > These are all started by men and manipulators and they have no

real relevance and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least

superstition refers to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non

existant personal god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the gods have spoken!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > They have listened and thus the gods speak:

> > > > >

> > > > > within the dream

> > > > > everything is possible

> > > > > nothing is preordained.

> > > > >

> > > > > ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > ~A

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hey............wait a minute...........I thought there were no separate

things.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > :-0

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > >

> > > :-)

> > >

> > > we cannot separate fact from fiction..

> > >

> > > we from thee or thee from me..

> > >

> > > minutes from eons..

> > >

> > > waiting from going..

> > >

> > > from from from

> > >

> > > oh hell..you know what i mean.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Well.......I think I know what I think you are saying after what you say is

cross referenced and compared to and interpolated with my personal

perceptual-conceptual interface........

> >

> > :-0

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

 

Humpf! Easy for you to do! Humpf~

 

Smile.

 

~A

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an ineradicable

part of human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It is an

illusion to think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel religious

belief. Men would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic survival of

the fittest has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle called

Gause's law holds that competition is maximal between species with identical

needs (…) Even submission to secular religions such as Communism and guru cults

involve willing subordination of the individual to the group. Religious

practices confer biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion include (1)

objectification (the reduction of reality to images and definitions that are

easily understood and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith (a kind

of tribalism enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the narratives that

explain the tribe's favored position on the earth, often incorporating

supernatural forces struggling for control, apocalypse, and millennium). The

three great religion categories of today are Marxism, traditional religion, and

scientific materialism. Though theology is not likely to survive as an

independent intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a long time to

come and will not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ....wikipedia

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ricardo

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste R,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think your semantics could be different....substitute

superstition and spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans

prior to c2000 years ago and since.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > People will always have superstition but organised religion is a

new phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

> > > > > > > These are all started by men and manipulators and they have no

real relevance and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least

superstition refers to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non

existant personal god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the gods have spoken!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > They have listened and thus the gods speak:

> > > > >

> > > > > within the dream

> > > > > everything is possible

> > > > > nothing is preordained.

> > > > >

> > > > > ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > ~A

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hey............wait a minute...........I thought there were no separate

things.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > :-0

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > >

> > > :-)

> > >

> > > we cannot separate fact from fiction..

> > >

> > > we from thee or thee from me..

> > >

> > > minutes from eons..

> > >

> > > waiting from going..

> > >

> > > from from from

> > >

> > > oh hell..you know what i mean.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Well.......I think I know what I think you are saying after what you say is

cross referenced and compared to and interpolated with my personal

perceptual-conceptual interface........

> >

> > :-0

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

>

Don't encourage him toom!

 

Almost everyone on this list has gone through the trouble of coming up with

something original. His only originality is that he says, over and over again,

that it's OK to be an unoriginal idiot.

 

But we already know that. Just look at the world. It's full of idiots like

bobo. Why do we need to be reminded of his moronic monkey shines?

 

Frankly, I don't even read what he says.

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Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an

ineradicable part of human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It

is an illusion to think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel

religious belief. Men would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic

survival of the fittest has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle

called Gause's law holds that competition is maximal between species with

identical needs (…) Even submission to secular religions such as Communism and

guru cults involve willing subordination of the individual to the group.

Religious practices confer biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion

include (1) objectification (the reduction of reality to images and definitions

that are easily understood and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith

(a kind of tribalism enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the

narratives that explain the tribe's favored position on the earth, often

incorporating supernatural forces struggling for control, apocalypse, and

millennium). The three great religion categories of today are Marxism,

traditional religion, and scientific materialism. Though theology is not likely

to survive as an independent intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a

long time to come and will not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ....wikipedia

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ricardo

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaste R,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think your semantics could be different....substitute

superstition and spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans

prior to c2000 years ago and since.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > People will always have superstition but organised religion is a

new phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

> > > > > > > > These are all started by men and manipulators and they have no

real relevance and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least

superstition refers to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non

existant personal god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the gods have spoken!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > They have listened and thus the gods speak:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > within the dream

> > > > > > everything is possible

> > > > > > nothing is preordained.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ~A

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hey............wait a minute...........I thought there were no

separate things.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > :-0

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > :-)

> > > >

> > > > we cannot separate fact from fiction..

> > > >

> > > > we from thee or thee from me..

> > > >

> > > > minutes from eons..

> > > >

> > > > waiting from going..

> > > >

> > > > from from from

> > > >

> > > > oh hell..you know what i mean.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Well.......I think I know what I think you are saying after what you say

is cross referenced and compared to and interpolated with my personal

perceptual-conceptual interface........

> > >

> > > :-0

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> >

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> Don't encourage him toom!

>

> Almost everyone on this list has gone through the trouble of coming up with

something original. His only originality is that he says, over and over again,

that it's OK to be an unoriginal idiot.

>

> But we already know that. Just look at the world. It's full of idiots like

bobo. Why do we need to be reminded of his moronic monkey shines?

>

> Frankly, I don't even read what he says.

>

 

 

 

 

I sense in him a vein of pure gold.......a profound understanding that seeks

expression.

 

The older I get.......the more I see that in all with whom I converse.

 

Everyone is merely trying to understand what the heck is going on.

 

Not an easy task when they ARE what's going on.

 

 

:-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an

ineradicable part of human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It

is an illusion to think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel

religious belief. Men would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic

survival of the fittest has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle

called Gause's law holds that competition is maximal between species with

identical needs (…) Even submission to secular religions such as Communism and

guru cults involve willing subordination of the individual to the group.

Religious practices confer biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion

include (1) objectification (the reduction of reality to images and definitions

that are easily understood and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith

(a kind of tribalism enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the

narratives that explain the tribe's favored position on the earth, often

incorporating supernatural forces struggling for control, apocalypse, and

millennium). The three great religion categories of today are Marxism,

traditional religion, and scientific materialism. Though theology is not likely

to survive as an independent intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a

long time to come and will not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ....wikipedia

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ricardo

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaste R,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think your semantics could be different....substitute

superstition and spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans

prior to c2000 years ago and since.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > People will always have superstition but organised religion is a

new phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

> > > > > > > > These are all started by men and manipulators and they have no

real relevance and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least

superstition refers to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non

existant personal god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the gods have spoken!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > They have listened and thus the gods speak:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > within the dream

> > > > > > everything is possible

> > > > > > nothing is preordained.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ~A

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hey............wait a minute...........I thought there were no

separate things.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > :-0

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > :-)

> > > >

> > > > we cannot separate fact from fiction..

> > > >

> > > > we from thee or thee from me..

> > > >

> > > > minutes from eons..

> > > >

> > > > waiting from going..

> > > >

> > > > from from from

> > > >

> > > > oh hell..you know what i mean.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Well.......I think I know what I think you are saying after what you say

is cross referenced and compared to and interpolated with my personal

perceptual-conceptual interface........

> > >

> > > :-0

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> >

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> Don't encourage him toom!

>

> Almost everyone on this list has gone through the trouble of coming up with

something original. His only originality is that he says, over and over again,

that it's OK to be an unoriginal idiot.

>

> But we already know that. Just look at the world. It's full of idiots like

bobo. Why do we need to be reminded of his moronic monkey shines?

>

> Frankly, I don't even read what he says.

 

 

 

 

" Frankly, I don't even read what he says. "

 

:-)

 

yep you bet.

 

that's why you have such stupid opinions..

 

about what he's written.

 

you never read it.

 

ROFLMAO!

 

what a fucking dummy.

 

you stalk every post of .b b.b.

 

baba haunts your every waking moment pancho.

 

you know it.

 

of course..

 

you aren't awake very much anyway..

 

so suck it up and live with it.

 

baba's ghost won't crowd you in your hovel.

 

but your obsession will continue to laugh at you.

 

poor bastard.

 

ROFLMAO!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an

ineradicable part of human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It

is an illusion to think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel

religious belief. Men would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic

survival of the fittest has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle

called Gause's law holds that competition is maximal between species with

identical needs (…) Even submission to secular religions such as Communism and

guru cults involve willing subordination of the individual to the group.

Religious practices confer biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion

include (1) objectification (the reduction of reality to images and definitions

that are easily understood and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith

(a kind of tribalism enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the

narratives that explain the tribe's favored position on the earth, often

incorporating supernatural forces struggling for control, apocalypse, and

millennium). The three great religion categories of today are Marxism,

traditional religion, and scientific materialism. Though theology is not likely

to survive as an independent intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a

long time to come and will not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ....wikipedia

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ricardo

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaste R,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I think your semantics could be different....substitute

superstition and spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans

prior to c2000 years ago and since.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > People will always have superstition but organised religion is

a new phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

> > > > > > > > > These are all started by men and manipulators and they have no

real relevance and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least

superstition refers to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non

existant personal god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the gods have spoken!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > They have listened and thus the gods speak:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > within the dream

> > > > > > > everything is possible

> > > > > > > nothing is preordained.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ~A

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hey............wait a minute...........I thought there were no

separate things.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > :-0

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > we cannot separate fact from fiction..

> > > > >

> > > > > we from thee or thee from me..

> > > > >

> > > > > minutes from eons..

> > > > >

> > > > > waiting from going..

> > > > >

> > > > > from from from

> > > > >

> > > > > oh hell..you know what i mean.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well.......I think I know what I think you are saying after what you say

is cross referenced and compared to and interpolated with my personal

perceptual-conceptual interface........

> > > >

> > > > :-0

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > LOL!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > Don't encourage him toom!

> >

> > Almost everyone on this list has gone through the trouble of coming up with

something original. His only originality is that he says, over and over again,

that it's OK to be an unoriginal idiot.

> >

> > But we already know that. Just look at the world. It's full of idiots like

bobo. Why do we need to be reminded of his moronic monkey shines?

> >

> > Frankly, I don't even read what he says.

>

>

>

>

> " Frankly, I don't even read what he says. "

>

> :-)

>

> yep you bet.

>

> that's why you have such stupid opinions..

>

> about what he's written.

>

> you never read it.

>

> ROFLMAO!

>

> what a fucking dummy.

>

> you stalk every post of .b b.b.

>

> baba haunts your every waking moment pancho.

>

> you know it.

>

> of course..

>

> you aren't awake very much anyway..

>

> so suck it up and live with it.

>

> baba's ghost won't crowd you in your hovel.

>

> but your obsession will continue to laugh at you.

>

> poor bastard.

>

> ROFLMAO!

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

 

 

Sorry boys, I just don't get it... Must be that missing Y chromosone.

 

Why?

 

~

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Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy "

<kipalmazy@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an

ineradicable part of human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It

is an illusion to think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel

religious belief. Men would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic

survival of the fittest has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle

called Gause's law holds that competition is maximal between species with

identical needs (…) Even submission to secular religions such as Communism and

guru cults involve willing subordination of the individual to the group.

Religious practices confer biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion

include (1) objectification (the reduction of reality to images and definitions

that are easily understood and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith

(a kind of tribalism enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the

narratives that explain the tribe's favored position on the earth, often

incorporating supernatural forces struggling for control, apocalypse, and

millennium). The three great religion categories of today are Marxism,

traditional religion, and scientific materialism. Though theology is not likely

to survive as an independent intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a

long time to come and will not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ....wikipedia

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Ricardo

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Namaste R,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I think your semantics could be different....substitute

superstition and spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans

prior to c2000 years ago and since.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > People will always have superstition but organised religion

is a new phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

> > > > > > > > > > These are all started by men and manipulators and they have

no real relevance and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least

superstition refers to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non

existant personal god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the gods have spoken!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > They have listened and thus the gods speak:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > within the dream

> > > > > > > > everything is possible

> > > > > > > > nothing is preordained.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ~A

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hey............wait a minute...........I thought there were no

separate things.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > :-0

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > we cannot separate fact from fiction..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > we from thee or thee from me..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > minutes from eons..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > waiting from going..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > from from from

> > > > > >

> > > > > > oh hell..you know what i mean.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Well.......I think I know what I think you are saying after what you

say is cross referenced and compared to and interpolated with my personal

perceptual-conceptual interface........

> > > > >

> > > > > :-0

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > LOL!

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > Don't encourage him toom!

> > >

> > > Almost everyone on this list has gone through the trouble of coming up

with something original. His only originality is that he says, over and over

again, that it's OK to be an unoriginal idiot.

> > >

> > > But we already know that. Just look at the world. It's full of idiots

like bobo. Why do we need to be reminded of his moronic monkey shines?

> > >

> > > Frankly, I don't even read what he says.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " Frankly, I don't even read what he says. "

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > yep you bet.

> >

> > that's why you have such stupid opinions..

> >

> > about what he's written.

> >

> > you never read it.

> >

> > ROFLMAO!

> >

> > what a fucking dummy.

> >

> > you stalk every post of .b b.b.

> >

> > baba haunts your every waking moment pancho.

> >

> > you know it.

> >

> > of course..

> >

> > you aren't awake very much anyway..

> >

> > so suck it up and live with it.

> >

> > baba's ghost won't crowd you in your hovel.

> >

> > but your obsession will continue to laugh at you.

> >

> > poor bastard.

> >

> > ROFLMAO!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

>

>

> Sorry boys, I just don't get it... Must be that missing Y chromosone.

>

> Why?

>

> ~

 

 

not to worry anna..

 

that's the same reason pancho doesn't get it either.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an

ineradicable part of human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It

is an illusion to think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel

religious belief. Men would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic

survival of the fittest has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle

called Gause's law holds that competition is maximal between species with

identical needs (…) Even submission to secular religions such as Communism and

guru cults involve willing subordination of the individual to the group.

Religious practices confer biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion

include (1) objectification (the reduction of reality to images and definitions

that are easily understood and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith

(a kind of tribalism enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the

narratives that explain the tribe's favored position on the earth, often

incorporating supernatural forces struggling for control, apocalypse, and

millennium). The three great religion categories of today are Marxism,

traditional religion, and scientific materialism. Though theology is not likely

to survive as an independent intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a

long time to come and will not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ....wikipedia

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ricardo

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaste R,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I think your semantics could be different....substitute

superstition and spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans

prior to c2000 years ago and since.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > People will always have superstition but organised religion is

a new phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and Judaism.

> > > > > > > > > These are all started by men and manipulators and they have no

real relevance and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At least

superstition refers to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a non

existant personal god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the gods have spoken!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > They have listened and thus the gods speak:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > within the dream

> > > > > > > everything is possible

> > > > > > > nothing is preordained.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ~A

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hey............wait a minute...........I thought there were no

separate things.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > :-0

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > we cannot separate fact from fiction..

> > > > >

> > > > > we from thee or thee from me..

> > > > >

> > > > > minutes from eons..

> > > > >

> > > > > waiting from going..

> > > > >

> > > > > from from from

> > > > >

> > > > > oh hell..you know what i mean.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well.......I think I know what I think you are saying after what you say

is cross referenced and compared to and interpolated with my personal

perceptual-conceptual interface........

> > > >

> > > > :-0

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > LOL!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > Don't encourage him toom!

> >

> > Almost everyone on this list has gone through the trouble of coming up with

something original. His only originality is that he says, over and over again,

that it's OK to be an unoriginal idiot.

> >

> > But we already know that. Just look at the world. It's full of idiots like

bobo. Why do we need to be reminded of his moronic monkey shines?

> >

> > Frankly, I don't even read what he says.

> >

>

>

>

>

> I sense in him a vein of pure gold.......a profound understanding that seeks

expression.

>

> The older I get.......the more I see that in all with whom I converse.

>

> Everyone is merely trying to understand what the heck is going on.

>

> Not an easy task when they ARE what's going on.

>

>

> :-)

>

toombaru

 

 

i sense this in you too toombaru.

 

but it can make no sense to the senseless ~sky.

 

but then..

 

he's not up with the uppers " going on " ..

 

he's just down as a downer " going down " .

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery "

<aoclery@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy "

<kipalmazy@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > .......the predisposition to religious belief is an

ineradicable part of human behavior. Mankind has produced 100,000 religions. It

is an illusion to think that scientific humanism and learning will dispel

religious belief. Men would rather believe than know (…) A kind of Darwinistic

survival of the fittest has occurred with religions (…) The ecological principle

called Gause's law holds that competition is maximal between species with

identical needs (…) Even submission to secular religions such as Communism and

guru cults involve willing subordination of the individual to the group.

Religious practices confer biological advantage. The mechanisms of religion

include (1) objectification (the reduction of reality to images and definitions

that are easily understood and cannot be refuted), (2) commitment through faith

(a kind of tribalism enacted through self-surrender), (3) and myth (the

narratives that explain the tribe's favored position on the earth, often

incorporating supernatural forces struggling for control, apocalypse, and

millennium). The three great religion categories of today are Marxism,

traditional religion, and scientific materialism. Though theology is not likely

to survive as an independent intellectual discipline, religion will endure for a

long time to come and will not be replaced by scientific materialism.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ....wikipedia

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Ricardo

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Namaste R,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I think your semantics could be different....substitute

superstition and spirit belief for religion and you have the condition of humans

prior to c2000 years ago and since.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > People will always have superstition but organised

religion is a new phenonemon...mainly Buddhist, Sikh, Christian, Muslim, and

Judaism.

> > > > > > > > > > > These are all started by men and manipulators and they

have no real relevance and are unnecessary...impediments and delusional. At

least superstition refers to spirits and interdimensional beings instead of a

non existant personal god...All within delusion anyway....Cheers Tony.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the gods have spoken!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > They have listened and thus the gods speak:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > within the dream

> > > > > > > > > everything is possible

> > > > > > > > > nothing is preordained.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ~A

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hey............wait a minute...........I thought there were no

separate things.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > :-0

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > we cannot separate fact from fiction..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > we from thee or thee from me..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > minutes from eons..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > waiting from going..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > from from from

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > oh hell..you know what i mean.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well.......I think I know what I think you are saying after what you

say is cross referenced and compared to and interpolated with my personal

perceptual-conceptual interface........

> > > > > >

> > > > > > :-0

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > LOL!

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > Don't encourage him toom!

> > > >

> > > > Almost everyone on this list has gone through the trouble of coming up

with something original. His only originality is that he says, over and over

again, that it's OK to be an unoriginal idiot.

> > > >

> > > > But we already know that. Just look at the world. It's full of idiots

like bobo. Why do we need to be reminded of his moronic monkey shines?

> > > >

> > > > Frankly, I don't even read what he says.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " Frankly, I don't even read what he says. "

> > >

> > > :-)

> > >

> > > yep you bet.

> > >

> > > that's why you have such stupid opinions..

> > >

> > > about what he's written.

> > >

> > > you never read it.

> > >

> > > ROFLMAO!

> > >

> > > what a fucking dummy.

> > >

> > > you stalk every post of .b b.b.

> > >

> > > baba haunts your every waking moment pancho.

> > >

> > > you know it.

> > >

> > > of course..

> > >

> > > you aren't awake very much anyway..

> > >

> > > so suck it up and live with it.

> > >

> > > baba's ghost won't crowd you in your hovel.

> > >

> > > but your obsession will continue to laugh at you.

> > >

> > > poor bastard.

> > >

> > > ROFLMAO!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sorry boys, I just don't get it... Must be that missing Y chromosone.

> >

> > Why?

> >

> > ~

>

>

> not to worry anna..

>

> that's the same reason pancho doesn't get it either.

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

 

 

But I love all you boyz in the hood.

 

Some more *equally* than others.

 

 

ROFL.

 

~A

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