Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within the brain. > -werner- > > And the brain happens where? > -geo- > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 - Werner Woehr Nisargadatta Saturday, May 02, 2009 11:43 AM Re: How Bout Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within the > brain. > -werner- > > And the brain happens where? > -geo- > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? Werner geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an assemblage through the senses and the brain, but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Werner Woehr > Nisargadatta > Saturday, May 02, 2009 11:43 AM > Re: How Bout > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within the > > brain. > > -werner- > > > > And the brain happens where? > > -geo- > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > Werner > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > Geo, seriously, shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be " outside " or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to go on with this discussion. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within the > > brain. > > -werner- > > > > And the brain happens where? > > -geo- > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > Werner > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > Geo, seriously, shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be " outside " or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to go on with this discussion. Werner There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a brain in order to understand that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It seems to be a matter of proper understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, trees... also there the sensation of the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any other phenomena in " nature " . It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that makes us believe in some inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is indeed a matter of correcting a strong conditioning through proper understanding. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Werner Woehr > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, May 02, 2009 11:43 AM > > Re: How Bout > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within the > > > brain. > > > -werner- > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > Werner > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > > Geo, seriously, > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be " outside " or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to go on with this discussion. > > Werner > P: You won't go on because you don't want to admit it's a valid question that you have no answer for. Inside means private, outside means public. If I imagine a dog bit Werner, you don't bleed, nor have to get rabies shots. Public is different, if different minds can testify you were bitten, then better get those rabies shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within the > > > brain. > > > -werner- > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > Werner > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > Geo, seriously, > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be " outside " > or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to go on > with this discussion. > > Werner > > There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a brain in > order to understand > > that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It seems to > be a matter of proper > > understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, trees... also > there the sensation of > > the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any other > phenomena in " nature " . > > It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that makes us > believe in some > > inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is indeed a > matter of correcting > > a strong conditioning through proper understanding. > > > > -geo- > Thanks, Geo, for specifying how you see the inner/outer and also what could be a proper understanding and the need for it. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within the > > > brain. > > > -werner- > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > Werner > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > Geo, seriously, > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be > " outside " > or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to go on > with this discussion. > > Werner > > There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a brain > in > order to understand > > that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It seems to > be a matter of proper > > understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, trees... also > there the sensation of > > the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any other > phenomena in " nature " . > > It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that makes > us > believe in some > > inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is indeed a > matter of correcting > > a strong conditioning through proper understanding. > > > > -geo- > Thanks, Geo, for specifying how you see the inner/outer and also what could be a proper understanding and the need for it. Werner Thanks to you for allowing me the opportunity to express it, and thus help me with this ongoing work of cleaning the accumulated debris of the mind. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within the > > > > brain. > > > > -werner- > > > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > > > > Geo, seriously, > > > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be > > " outside " > > or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to go on > > with this discussion. > > > > Werner > > > > There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a brain > > in > > order to understand > > > > that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It seems to > > be a matter of proper > > > > understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, trees... also > > there the sensation of > > > > the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any other > > phenomena in " nature " . > > > > It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that makes > > us > > believe in some > > > > inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is indeed a > > matter of correcting > > > > a strong conditioning through proper understanding. > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > Thanks, Geo, > > for specifying how you see the inner/outer and also what could be a proper > understanding and the need for it. > > Werner > > Thanks to you for allowing me the opportunity to express it, and thus help > me with this ongoing > work of cleaning the accumulated debris of the mind. > -geo- > Haha, you really made me laugh, Geo. Thanks ... What an immense task, cleaning the accumulated debris of the mind. Nice to have met someone with such humor ! Cheers ... Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within the > > > > brain. > > > > -werner- > > > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > > > > Geo, seriously, > > > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be " outside " > > or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to go on > > with this discussion. > > > > Werner > > > > There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a brain in > > order to understand > > > > that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It seems to > > be a matter of proper > > > > understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, trees... also > > there the sensation of > > > > the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any other > > phenomena in " nature " . > > > > It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that makes us > > believe in some > > > > inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is indeed a > > matter of correcting > > > > a strong conditioning through proper understanding. > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > Thanks, Geo, > > for specifying how you see the inner/outer and also what could be a proper understanding and the need for it. > > Werner > I'll be toomie for a moment: niiiiiice! And there is a natural phenomenon that takes place when inside and outside are transcended and reorganized into a new paradigm of oneness/nonduality. Clairaudience, clairvoyance are the new *norm*... things continue to seem to happen though as a direct result of some unseen hand that is now immediately cognized as our *own*. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within the > > > > > brain. > > > > > -werner- > > > > > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > > > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > > > > > > > Geo, seriously, > > > > > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be " outside " > > > or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > > > > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to go on > > > with this discussion. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a brain in > > > order to understand > > > > > > that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It seems to > > > be a matter of proper > > > > > > understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, trees... also > > > there the sensation of > > > > > > the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any other > > > phenomena in " nature " . > > > > > > It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that makes us > > > believe in some > > > > > > inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is indeed a > > > matter of correcting > > > > > > a strong conditioning through proper understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Geo, > > > > for specifying how you see the inner/outer and also what could be a proper understanding and the need for it. > > > > Werner > > > > > > I'll be toomie for a moment: niiiiiice! > > And there is a natural phenomenon that takes place when inside > and outside are transcended and reorganized into a new paradigm > of oneness/nonduality. > > Clairaudience, clairvoyance are the new *norm*... things continue to seem to happen though as a direct result of some unseen hand that is now immediately cognized as our *own*. > > > ~A > p.s.. include *telepathy* in that....but you already knew that, didn't you? ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within the > > > > > brain. > > > > > -werner- > > > > > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > > > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > > > > > > > Geo, seriously, > > > > > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be > > > " outside " > > > or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > > > > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to go on > > > with this discussion. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a brain > > > in > > > order to understand > > > > > > that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It seems to > > > be a matter of proper > > > > > > understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, trees... also > > > there the sensation of > > > > > > the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any other > > > phenomena in " nature " . > > > > > > It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that makes > > > us > > > believe in some > > > > > > inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is indeed a > > > matter of correcting > > > > > > a strong conditioning through proper understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Thanks, Geo, > > > > for specifying how you see the inner/outer and also what could be a proper > > understanding and the need for it. > > > > Werner > > > > Thanks to you for allowing me the opportunity to express it, and thus help > > me with this ongoing > > work of cleaning the accumulated debris of the mind. > > -geo- > > > > > Haha, you really made me laugh, Geo. Thanks ... > > What an immense task, cleaning the accumulated debris of the mind. > > Nice to have met someone with such humor ! > > Cheers ... Werner > > is this honestly what you construe as a level-headed discussion? this explains very much. i recommend rest. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 > > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within > > > > > the > > > > > brain. > > > > > -werner- > > > > > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > > > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > > > > > > > Geo, seriously, > > > > > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be > > > " outside " > > > or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > > > > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to go > > > on > > > with this discussion. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a > > > brain in > > > order to understand > > > > > > that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It > > > seems to > > > be a matter of proper > > > > > > understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, trees... > > > also > > > there the sensation of > > > > > > the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any > > > other > > > phenomena in " nature " . > > > > > > It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that > > > makes us > > > believe in some > > > > > > inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is indeed a > > > matter of correcting > > > > > > a strong conditioning through proper understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Geo, > > > > for specifying how you see the inner/outer and also what could be a > > proper understanding and the need for it. > > > > Werner > > > > > > I'll be toomie for a moment: niiiiiice! > > And there is a natural phenomenon that takes place when inside > and outside are transcended and reorganized into a new paradigm > of oneness/nonduality. > > Clairaudience, clairvoyance are the new *norm*... things continue to seem > to happen though as a direct result of some unseen hand that is now > immediately cognized as our *own*. > > > ~A > p.s.. include *telepathy* in that....but you already knew that, didn't you? ;-) I suppose that is so... though it probably depends on the individual being and its particular needs/destiny. We are all advised by " smart fellas on the matter " not to pay tooooo much attention to those little things.... so I tend to believe them. After all... sometimes it seems to me that the biggest of all miracles have already happened anyway.... Well...sometimes..a little help from the heavens, at the exact right time, right place, is indeed very very.....very welcome.. :>) -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within > > > > > > the > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > -werner- > > > > > > > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > > > > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > > > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo, seriously, > > > > > > > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be > > > > " outside " > > > > or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > > > > > > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to go > > > > on > > > > with this discussion. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a > > > > brain in > > > > order to understand > > > > > > > > that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It > > > > seems to > > > > be a matter of proper > > > > > > > > understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, trees... > > > > also > > > > there the sensation of > > > > > > > > the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any > > > > other > > > > phenomena in " nature " . > > > > > > > > It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that > > > > makes us > > > > believe in some > > > > > > > > inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is indeed a > > > > matter of correcting > > > > > > > > a strong conditioning through proper understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Geo, > > > > > > for specifying how you see the inner/outer and also what could be a > > > proper understanding and the need for it. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > I'll be toomie for a moment: niiiiiice! > > > > And there is a natural phenomenon that takes place when inside > > and outside are transcended and reorganized into a new paradigm > > of oneness/nonduality. > > > > Clairaudience, clairvoyance are the new *norm*... things continue to seem > > to happen though as a direct result of some unseen hand that is now > > immediately cognized as our *own*. > > > > > > ~A > > > > p.s.. include *telepathy* in that....but you already knew that, didn't you? > ;-) > > I suppose that is so... though it probably depends on the individual being > and its particular needs/destiny. > > We are all advised by " smart fellas on the matter " not to pay tooooo much > attention to those little things.... so I tend to believe them. > > After all... sometimes it seems to me that the biggest of all miracles have > already happened anyway.... > > Well...sometimes..a little help from the heavens, at the exact right time, > right place, is indeed very very.....very welcome.. :>) > > > > -geo- which " individual being " ? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > -werner- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > > > > > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > > > > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo, seriously, > > > > > > > > > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be > > > > > " outside " > > > > > or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > > > > > > > > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to go > > > > > on > > > > > with this discussion. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a > > > > > brain in > > > > > order to understand > > > > > > > > > > that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It > > > > > seems to > > > > > be a matter of proper > > > > > > > > > > understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, trees... > > > > > also > > > > > there the sensation of > > > > > > > > > > the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any > > > > > other > > > > > phenomena in " nature " . > > > > > > > > > > It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that > > > > > makes us > > > > > believe in some > > > > > > > > > > inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is indeed a > > > > > matter of correcting > > > > > > > > > > a strong conditioning through proper understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Geo, > > > > > > > > for specifying how you see the inner/outer and also what could be a > > > > proper understanding and the need for it. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll be toomie for a moment: niiiiiice! > > > > > > And there is a natural phenomenon that takes place when inside > > > and outside are transcended and reorganized into a new paradigm > > > of oneness/nonduality. > > > > > > Clairaudience, clairvoyance are the new *norm*... things continue to seem > > > to happen though as a direct result of some unseen hand that is now > > > immediately cognized as our *own*. > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > p.s.. include *telepathy* in that....but you already knew that, didn't you? > > ;-) > > > > I suppose that is so... though it probably depends on the individual being > > and its particular needs/destiny. > > > > We are all advised by " smart fellas on the matter " not to pay tooooo much > > attention to those little things.... so I tend to believe them. > > > > After all... sometimes it seems to me that the biggest of all miracles have > > already happened anyway.... > > > > Well...sometimes..a little help from the heavens, at the exact right time, > > right place, is indeed very very.....very welcome.. :>) > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > which " individual being " ? > > .b b.b. > Guess cowboy... he has a need visiting B on his keyboard. LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens within > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > -werner- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > > > > > > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > > > > > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo, seriously, > > > > > > > > > > > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be > > > > > > " outside " > > > > > > or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > > > > > > > > > > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to go > > > > > > on > > > > > > with this discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a > > > > > > brain in > > > > > > order to understand > > > > > > > > > > > > that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It > > > > > > seems to > > > > > > be a matter of proper > > > > > > > > > > > > understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, trees... > > > > > > also > > > > > > there the sensation of > > > > > > > > > > > > the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any > > > > > > other > > > > > > phenomena in " nature " . > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that > > > > > > makes us > > > > > > believe in some > > > > > > > > > > > > inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is indeed a > > > > > > matter of correcting > > > > > > > > > > > > a strong conditioning through proper understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Geo, > > > > > > > > > > for specifying how you see the inner/outer and also what could be a > > > > > proper understanding and the need for it. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll be toomie for a moment: niiiiiice! > > > > > > > > And there is a natural phenomenon that takes place when inside > > > > and outside are transcended and reorganized into a new paradigm > > > > of oneness/nonduality. > > > > > > > > Clairaudience, clairvoyance are the new *norm*... things continue to seem > > > > to happen though as a direct result of some unseen hand that is now > > > > immediately cognized as our *own*. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > p.s.. include *telepathy* in that....but you already knew that, didn't you? > > > ;-) > > > > > > I suppose that is so... though it probably depends on the individual being > > > and its particular needs/destiny. > > > > > > We are all advised by " smart fellas on the matter " not to pay tooooo much > > > attention to those little things.... so I tend to believe them. > > > > > > After all... sometimes it seems to me that the biggest of all miracles have > > > already happened anyway.... > > > > > > Well...sometimes..a little help from the heavens, at the exact right time, > > > right place, is indeed very very.....very welcome.. :>) > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > which " individual being " ? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Guess cowboy... > > he has a need visiting B on his keyboard. > > LOL!! just like you mr. lonely. ROFLMAO! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 > > > > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens > > > > > > within > > > > > > the > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > -werner- > > > > > > > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > > > > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > > > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo, seriously, > > > > > > > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be > > > > " outside " > > > > or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > > > > > > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to > > > > go > > > > on > > > > with this discussion. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a > > > > brain in > > > > order to understand > > > > > > > > that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It > > > > seems to > > > > be a matter of proper > > > > > > > > understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, trees... > > > > also > > > > there the sensation of > > > > > > > > the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any > > > > other > > > > phenomena in " nature " . > > > > > > > > It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that > > > > makes us > > > > believe in some > > > > > > > > inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is indeed > > > > a > > > > matter of correcting > > > > > > > > a strong conditioning through proper understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Geo, > > > > > > for specifying how you see the inner/outer and also what could be a > > > proper understanding and the need for it. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > I'll be toomie for a moment: niiiiiice! > > > > And there is a natural phenomenon that takes place when inside > > and outside are transcended and reorganized into a new paradigm > > of oneness/nonduality. > > > > Clairaudience, clairvoyance are the new *norm*... things continue to > > seem > > to happen though as a direct result of some unseen hand that is now > > immediately cognized as our *own*. > > > > > > ~A > > > > p.s.. include *telepathy* in that....but you already knew that, didn't > you? > ;-) > > I suppose that is so... though it probably depends on the individual being > and its particular needs/destiny. > > We are all advised by " smart fellas on the matter " not to pay tooooo much > attention to those little things.... so I tend to believe them. > > After all... sometimes it seems to me that the biggest of all miracles > have > already happened anyway.... > > Well...sometimes..a little help from the heavens, at the exact right time, > right place, is indeed very very.....very welcome.. :>) > > > > -geo- which " individual being " ? ..b b.b. I am not sure... Should we call it particular? There is this organism - it is indeed a localized vivified body. It is particular, no? And then there is the " world " each organism " wears on " . Although we all share the human world, it seems to me that each particular organism projects its own particular world. We share this planet but each one of us walks a different path concerning details. Some eat meat others not, I don't know...some are ill others not, likewise, some particular worlds exhibit supra-natural events more frequently then others. Why not? Is this what you question? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens > > > > > > > within > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > -werner- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is an > > > > > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > > > > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo, seriously, > > > > > > > > > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be > > > > > " outside " > > > > > or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > > > > > > > > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to > > > > > go > > > > > on > > > > > with this discussion. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a > > > > > brain in > > > > > order to understand > > > > > > > > > > that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It > > > > > seems to > > > > > be a matter of proper > > > > > > > > > > understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, trees... > > > > > also > > > > > there the sensation of > > > > > > > > > > the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any > > > > > other > > > > > phenomena in " nature " . > > > > > > > > > > It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that > > > > > makes us > > > > > believe in some > > > > > > > > > > inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is indeed > > > > > a > > > > > matter of correcting > > > > > > > > > > a strong conditioning through proper understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Geo, > > > > > > > > for specifying how you see the inner/outer and also what could be a > > > > proper understanding and the need for it. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll be toomie for a moment: niiiiiice! > > > > > > And there is a natural phenomenon that takes place when inside > > > and outside are transcended and reorganized into a new paradigm > > > of oneness/nonduality. > > > > > > Clairaudience, clairvoyance are the new *norm*... things continue to > > > seem > > > to happen though as a direct result of some unseen hand that is now > > > immediately cognized as our *own*. > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > p.s.. include *telepathy* in that....but you already knew that, didn't > > you? > > ;-) > > > > I suppose that is so... though it probably depends on the individual being > > and its particular needs/destiny. > > > > We are all advised by " smart fellas on the matter " not to pay tooooo much > > attention to those little things.... so I tend to believe them. > > > > After all... sometimes it seems to me that the biggest of all miracles > > have > > already happened anyway.... > > > > Well...sometimes..a little help from the heavens, at the exact right time, > > right place, is indeed very very.....very welcome.. :>) > > > > > > > > -geo- > > which " individual being " ? > > .b b.b. > > I am not sure... > > Should we call it particular? > > There is this organism - it is indeed a localized vivified body. It is > particular, no? > > And then there is the " world " each organism " wears on " . Although we all > share > > the human world, it seems to me that each particular organism projects its > own > > particular world. We share this planet but each one of us walks a different > path > > concerning details. Some eat meat others not, I don't know...some are ill > others not, > > likewise, some particular worlds exhibit supra-natural events more > frequently > > then others. Why not? Is this what you question? > > -geo- no but you said it all with: " it seems to me that " . it does " seem " so doesn't it? but nobody knows what 'it " is. nothing particular about that. there is no individual..nor it's opposite. whatever the hell that would be..or seem to be. besides.. let alone that there is no " it " known.. there is no " who " known either. so..it really doesn't matter. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 > > > > > > > There is no inside nor outside, Geo. All that just happens > > > > > > > within > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > -werner- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the brain happens where? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In springtime eventually your brain happens in your dick ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> You did not understand the question. Within and without is > > > > > > an > > > > > > assemblage through the senses and the brain, > > > > > > but... the senses and the brain are assembled through what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo, seriously, > > > > > > > > > > shall we really go on discussing that the world which seems to be > > > > > " outside " > > > > > or " inside " in any case is a product of your brain ? > > > > > > > > > > So I will stop here and hope you can forgive me that I will not to > > > > > go > > > > > on > > > > > with this discussion. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > There is no need at all for someone to even know that he/she has a > > > > > brain in > > > > > order to understand > > > > > > > > > > that the inner and outer are in fact one movement and not two. It > > > > > seems to > > > > > be a matter of proper > > > > > > > > > > understanding. Just as there is rain, wind, tornado, waves, > > > > > trees... > > > > > also > > > > > there the sensation of > > > > > > > > > > the body. This sensation is just as universal and " natural " as any > > > > > other > > > > > phenomena in " nature " . > > > > > > > > > > It is the animal instinct, the need for survival as organisms that > > > > > makes us > > > > > believe in some > > > > > > > > > > inner core that is separate from the outer universe. So it is > > > > > indeed > > > > > a > > > > > matter of correcting > > > > > > > > > > a strong conditioning through proper understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Geo, > > > > > > > > for specifying how you see the inner/outer and also what could be a > > > > proper understanding and the need for it. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll be toomie for a moment: niiiiiice! > > > > > > And there is a natural phenomenon that takes place when inside > > > and outside are transcended and reorganized into a new paradigm > > > of oneness/nonduality. > > > > > > Clairaudience, clairvoyance are the new *norm*... things continue to > > > seem > > > to happen though as a direct result of some unseen hand that is now > > > immediately cognized as our *own*. > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > p.s.. include *telepathy* in that....but you already knew that, didn't > > you? > > ;-) > > > > I suppose that is so... though it probably depends on the individual > > being > > and its particular needs/destiny. > > > > We are all advised by " smart fellas on the matter " not to pay tooooo > > much > > attention to those little things.... so I tend to believe them. > > > > After all... sometimes it seems to me that the biggest of all miracles > > have > > already happened anyway.... > > > > Well...sometimes..a little help from the heavens, at the exact right > > time, > > right place, is indeed very very.....very welcome.. :>) > > > > > > > > -geo- > > which " individual being " ? > > .b b.b. > > I am not sure... > > Should we call it particular? > > There is this organism - it is indeed a localized vivified body. It is > particular, no? > > And then there is the " world " each organism " wears on " . Although we all > share > > the human world, it seems to me that each particular organism projects its > own > > particular world. We share this planet but each one of us walks a > different > path > > concerning details. Some eat meat others not, I don't know...some are ill > others not, > > likewise, some particular worlds exhibit supra-natural events more > frequently > > then others. Why not? Is this what you question? > > -geo- no but you said it all with: " it seems to me that " . it does " seem " so doesn't it? geo> That each body projects its own world? No. I used that expression to avoid being too much " professorial " ... to leave the door open for discussion/dialogue/opinions. It seems to be the opposite. People tend to feel they where born IN this world....that the world was here and they where born from their mama and papa to the world. It is not so at all. Every and each world each organism wears on disappears TOTALLY when the body kicks the boots. We have the impression - quite on the contrary as you suggest I felt - that there is history...that time goes by...there are monuments from antiquity.. the pyramids...sphinxes...etc. We think that all this was here. But the fact is that all this history, the monuments, mama, papa, time going on...all this was projected the moment my body became conscious. So in the context above, it doesn't seem at all. === but nobody knows what 'it " is. geo> ...what " it " are you referring to? === nothing particular about that. there is no individual..nor it's opposite. whatever the hell that would be..or seem to be. besides.. geo> The root of the word " individual " is that which is not divided. So a wholly man (whole) is an individual. (no religious feelings here) ==== let alone that there is no " it " known.. there is no " who " known either. so..it really doesn't matter. ..b b.b. geo> The way you put it...it doesnt matter indeed. Its like looking from the right, then left, then above, in fast succession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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