Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 In order to see the self......in its mechanical stupor.....one has to see through all the pretty-grandiose add-ons. All of its ideas about " love " , " compassion " , " good will " , " hope " , etc have to be dropped. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > In order to see the self......in its mechanical stupor.....one has to see > through all the pretty-grandiose add-ons. > > All of its ideas about " love " , " compassion " , " good will " , " hope " , etc have to be > dropped. > > > > > toombaru > Ideas are nothing more than that until they are *acted out*. Many act out ideas of futility, hostility, ill will, hatred and selfishness. It's what makes the world go 'round. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to see the self......in its mechanical stupor.....one has to see > > through all the pretty-grandiose add-ons. > > > > All of its ideas about " love " , " compassion " , " good will " , " hope " , etc have to be > > dropped. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > Ideas are nothing more than that until they are *acted out*. > > Many act out ideas of futility, hostility, ill will, hatred > and selfishness. > > It's what makes the world go 'round. > > ~A > Is that the " world " in which you want to live out your days? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 In order to see the self......in its mechanical stupor.....one has to see through all the pretty-grandiose add-ons. All of its ideas about " love " , " compassion " , " good will " , " hope " , etc have to be dropped. toombaru==========================Man is dead, and all the categories that created and characterized humanexistence must be reconsidered. The key to elimination of words? Ownership. Replace all words pertaining to ownership with wordsconcerning functions, operations. What did man own? Consciousness,feelings, emotions, mind, egos spirit, soul, pain, etc., words resulting fromcenturies of belief, and no longer useful. John Brockman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , Bill Rishel <illusyn wrote: > > In order to see the self......in its mechanical stupor.....one has to see > through all the pretty-grandiose add-ons. > > All of its ideas about " love " , " compassion " , " good will " , " hope " , etc have > to be > dropped. > > toombaru > > ========================== > > Man is dead, and all the categories that created and characterized human > existence must be reconsidered. The key to elimination of words? > Ownership. Replace all words pertaining to ownership with words > concerning functions, operations. What did man own? Consciousness, > feelings, emotions, mind, egos spirit, soul, pain, etc., words resulting > from > centuries of belief, and no longer useful. > > John Brockman > Which come first: The loss of the words. or The loss of the man? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to see the self......in its mechanical stupor.....one has to see > > > through all the pretty-grandiose add-ons. > > > > > > All of its ideas about " love " , " compassion " , " good will " , " hope " , etc have to be > > > dropped. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Ideas are nothing more than that until they are *acted out*. > > > > Many act out ideas of futility, hostility, ill will, hatred > > and selfishness. > > > > It's what makes the world go 'round. > > > > ~A > Is that the " world " in which you want to live out your days? > > > > > > toombaru " she " have a choice???? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Bill Rishel <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > In order to see the self......in its mechanical stupor.....one has to see > > through all the pretty-grandiose add-ons. > > > > All of its ideas about " love " , " compassion " , " good will " , " hope " , etc have > > to be > > dropped. > > > > toombaru > > > > ========================== > > > > Man is dead, and all the categories that created and characterized human > > existence must be reconsidered. The key to elimination of words? > > Ownership. Replace all words pertaining to ownership with words > > concerning functions, operations. What did man own? Consciousness, > > feelings, emotions, mind, egos spirit, soul, pain, etc., words resulting > > from > > centuries of belief, and no longer useful. > > > > John Brockman > > > > > > Which come first: > > The loss of the words. > > or > > The loss of the man? > > > > > toombaru i'm not here to answer. i am not. i was lost and never can be found. i never was. no matter what the bible tells " me " so. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to see the self......in its mechanical stupor.....one has to see > > > through all the pretty-grandiose add-ons. > > > > > > All of its ideas about " love " , " compassion " , " good will " , " hope " , etc have to be > > > dropped. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Ideas are nothing more than that until they are *acted out*. > > > > Many act out ideas of futility, hostility, ill will, hatred > > and selfishness. > > > > It's what makes the world go 'round. > > > > ~A > Is that the " world " in which you want to live out your days? > > > > > > toombaru > When has personal volition ever entered into the world? When has it not been so? ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to see the self......in its mechanical stupor.....one has to see > > > > through all the pretty-grandiose add-ons. > > > > > > > > All of its ideas about " love " , " compassion " , " good will " , " hope " , etc have to be > > > > dropped. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ideas are nothing more than that until they are *acted out*. > > > > > > Many act out ideas of futility, hostility, ill will, hatred > > > and selfishness. > > > > > > It's what makes the world go 'round. > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that the " world " in which you want to live out your days? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > When has personal volition ever entered into the world? > > When has it not been so? > > ~A on the first thursday of an eon. all things are not so then. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to see the self......in its mechanical stupor.....one has to see > > > > through all the pretty-grandiose add-ons. > > > > > > > > All of its ideas about " love " , " compassion " , " good will " , " hope " , etc have to be > > > > dropped. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ideas are nothing more than that until they are *acted out*. > > > > > > Many act out ideas of futility, hostility, ill will, hatred > > > and selfishness. > > > > > > It's what makes the world go 'round. > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that the " world " in which you want to live out your days? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > When has personal volition ever entered into the world? > > When has it not been so? > > ~A > It never has entered the world, Anna. It IS the world. You are the world and the world is you. Just see Schopenhauer's " The World as Will and Idea " http://www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/schopenhauer.htm Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to see the self......in its mechanical stupor.....one has to see > > > > > through all the pretty-grandiose add-ons. > > > > > > > > > > All of its ideas about " love " , " compassion " , " good will " , " hope " , etc have to be > > > > > dropped. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ideas are nothing more than that until they are *acted out*. > > > > > > > > Many act out ideas of futility, hostility, ill will, hatred > > > > and selfishness. > > > > > > > > It's what makes the world go 'round. > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that the " world " in which you want to live out your days? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > When has personal volition ever entered into the world? > > > > When has it not been so? > > > > ~A > > > > > It never has entered the world, Anna. It IS the world. You are the world and the world is you. > > Just see Schopenhauer's " The World as Will and Idea " > > http://www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/schopenhauer.htm > > Werner another lousy germanic philosopher fool? you have strange gods. and you believe what they say! pathetic. of course that nation's members have believed many false Fuhrers. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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