Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 In physics black holes are referred to as singularities. What this roughly means is that all the laws of physics break down, all notions of time, space, dimension, etc. are collapsed. Black holes can serve as analogy for the living moment, for in the living moment there is no time, no is there distance (distance requires time). In the living moment all thoughts and forms collapse. In the intense vibrance of the moment consciousness becomes as a plasma, compressed as to a point, but also seemingly everywhere. The dream of events and happenings continues after a fashion, but diaphanously, transparently, as fleeting dreams, as shadows dancing on a wall. At the core is a vibrance of such intensity that whatever shadows there are instantly fade in significance. As the tongues of flame in a fire, such is the impermanent non-lastingness of events as they unfold from the vital life of the burning Now. There are those who will not understand this. There are those who will understand it perfectly. As with a black hole the notion of an " event horizon " applies. Once the " event horizon " is crossed there is a *falling in*. Having " fallen in " the immediacy of Now grows with crushing intensity. The dross of old notions, dearly held, are burned away. Eventually more and more the crust of self is melted and extinquished at the core, leaving a silent burning blaze. So it is not about ideas and understanding. It is about an event horizon, and its being crossed or not. The blaze of burning presence is utterly indifferent. And yet, somehow also, there is an *ache*, a yearning to reach back out across the infinite window of nothingness whereby everything collapsed to a singularity. Such yearnings are fleeting, just as the tongues of flame... but like the tongues of flame, the yearnings *are* again and again. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 " The blaze of burning presence is utterly indifferent. And yet, somehow also, there is an *ache*, a yearning to reach back out across the infinite window of nothingness whereby everything collapsed to a singularity. Such yearnings are fleeting, just as the tongues of flame... but like the tongues of flame, the yearnings *are* again and again." This has been partially unreveloed by the hublle telescope. What happens is that some people are too "eager" to fall into the hole, in such a way that they actualy take sprint and dive head first into it. The hublle cought some strange "somethings" hanging out on both sides of black holes. Now we know what that is. These hasty guys can not completely enter the hole on account of the wastes they have to expell from their full bowells. Some did, and the result was very unpleasant. Solid, liquid and specially gaseous residues left a very strange smeel inside the hole. So from a certain year onwards all cndidates are cough by the holes door at the waist line, head and chest inside, but the asses out.They have to stay like that for 40 years, until they are clean, specially from a strange gaseous residue known as "smartness". After these time, they are aloud to enter. Hublle has been recently fixed for more 8 years or so. I am sure we will learn more about these detais. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Nirvana = cessation = the blowing out of a candle flame = black hole All our images/experiences form as emanations. At the event horizon, energy does not emanate. To leave is to return in immediacy. Creation is destruction in immediacy. Hence the teaching has been offered: neither creation nor destruction. -- Dan Nisargadatta , Bill Rishel <illusyn wrote: > > In physics black holes are referred to as singularities. > What this roughly means is that all the laws of physics > break down, all notions of time, space, dimension, etc. > are collapsed. > > Black holes can serve as analogy for the living moment, > for in the living moment there is no time, no is there > distance (distance requires time). > > In the living moment all thoughts and forms collapse. In > the intense vibrance of the moment consciousness becomes > as a plasma, compressed as to a point, but also > seemingly everywhere. The dream of events and happenings > continues after a fashion, but diaphanously, > transparently, as fleeting dreams, as shadows dancing on > a wall. At the core is a vibrance of such intensity that > whatever shadows there are instantly fade in > significance. As the tongues of flame in a fire, such is > the impermanent non-lastingness of events as they unfold > from the vital life of the burning Now. > > There are those who will not understand this. There are > those who will understand it perfectly. As with a black > hole the notion of an " event horizon " applies. Once the > " event horizon " is crossed there is a *falling in*. > Having " fallen in " the immediacy of Now grows with > crushing intensity. The dross of old notions, dearly > held, are burned away. Eventually more and more the > crust of self is melted and extinquished at the core, > leaving a silent burning blaze. > > So it is not about ideas and understanding. It is about > an event horizon, and its being crossed or not. > > The blaze of burning presence is utterly indifferent. > And yet, somehow also, there is an *ache*, a yearning to > reach back out across the infinite window of nothingness > whereby everything collapsed to a singularity. Such > yearnings are fleeting, just as the tongues of flame... > but like the tongues of flame, the yearnings *are* again > and again. > > > > Bill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 To avoid eventual missunderstanding... I enjoyed your analogy with the black hole -geo- In physics black holes are referred to as singularities. What this roughly means is that all the laws of physics break down, all notions of time, space, dimension, etc. are collapsed. Black holes can serve as analogy for the living moment, for in the living moment there is no time, no is there distance (distance requires time). In the living moment all thoughts and forms collapse. In the intense vibrance of the moment consciousness becomes as a plasma, compressed as to a point, but also seemingly everywhere. The dream of events and happenings continues after a fashion, but diaphanously, transparently, as fleeting dreams, as shadows dancing on a wall. At the core is a vibrance of such intensity that whatever shadows there are instantly fade in significance. As the tongues of flame in a fire, such is the impermanent non-lastingness of events as they unfold from the vital life of the burning Now. There are those who will not understand this. There are those who will understand it perfectly. As with a black hole the notion of an " event horizon " applies. Once the " event horizon " is crossed there is a *falling in*. Having " fallen in " the immediacy of Now grows with crushing intensity. The dross of old notions, dearly held, are burned away. Eventually more and more the crust of self is melted and extinquished at the core, leaving a silent burning blaze. So it is not about ideas and understanding. It is about an event horizon, and its being crossed or not. The blaze of burning presence is utterly indifferent. And yet, somehow also, there is an *ache*, a yearning to reach back out across the infinite window of nothingness whereby everything collapsed to a singularity. Such yearnings are fleeting, just as the tongues of flame... but like the tongues of flame, the yearnings *are* again and again. Bill avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090513-0, 13/05/2009 Tested on: 19/5/2009 13:27:11 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 you said it, Dan, you said it. even: creation is destruction is immediacy is creation ... Arising and falling, the *same impulse*. And impulse ~ no-impulse ~ that too woven together and inextricable. All of which means... *nothing happens*... Absolute intensity, absolute ease... This Stillness, so full of Thunder. Bill Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nirvana = cessation = the blowing out of a candle flame = black hole > > All our images/experiences form as emanations. > > At the event horizon, energy does not emanate. > > To leave is to return in immediacy. > > Creation is destruction in immediacy. > > Hence the teaching has been offered: neither creation nor destruction. > > > -- Dan > > > > Nisargadatta , Bill Rishel <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > In physics black holes are referred to as singularities. > > What this roughly means is that all the laws of physics > > break down, all notions of time, space, dimension, etc. > > are collapsed. > > > > Black holes can serve as analogy for the living moment, > > for in the living moment there is no time, no is there > > distance (distance requires time). > > > > In the living moment all thoughts and forms collapse. In > > the intense vibrance of the moment consciousness becomes > > as a plasma, compressed as to a point, but also > > seemingly everywhere. The dream of events and happenings > > continues after a fashion, but diaphanously, > > transparently, as fleeting dreams, as shadows dancing on > > a wall. At the core is a vibrance of such intensity that > > whatever shadows there are instantly fade in > > significance. As the tongues of flame in a fire, such is > > the impermanent non-lastingness of events as they unfold > > from the vital life of the burning Now. > > > > There are those who will not understand this. There are > > those who will understand it perfectly. As with a black > > hole the notion of an " event horizon " applies. Once the > > " event horizon " is crossed there is a *falling in*. > > Having " fallen in " the immediacy of Now grows with > > crushing intensity. The dross of old notions, dearly > > held, are burned away. Eventually more and more the > > crust of self is melted and extinquished at the core, > > leaving a silent burning blaze. > > > > So it is not about ideas and understanding. It is about > > an event horizon, and its being crossed or not. > > > > The blaze of burning presence is utterly indifferent. > > And yet, somehow also, there is an *ache*, a yearning to > > reach back out across the infinite window of nothingness > > whereby everything collapsed to a singularity. Such > > yearnings are fleeting, just as the tongues of flame... > > but like the tongues of flame, the yearnings *are* again > > and again. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > you said it, Dan, you said it. > > even: creation is destruction is immediacy is creation ... > > Arising and falling, the *same impulse*. > > And impulse ~ no-impulse ~ that too > woven together and inextricable. > > All of which means... *nothing happens*... > > Absolute intensity, absolute ease... > > This Stillness, so full of Thunder. > > Bill Implosion! Implosion off the starboard hull. All hands on deck! All hands on deck! Report to implosion stations!! lol, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > you said it, Dan, you said it. > > > > even: creation is destruction is immediacy is creation ... > > > > Arising and falling, the *same impulse*. > > > > And impulse ~ no-impulse ~ that too > > woven together and inextricable. > > > > All of which means... *nothing happens*... > > > > Absolute intensity, absolute ease... > > > > This Stillness, so full of Thunder. > > > > Bill > > > Implosion! Implosion off the starboard hull. > > All hands on deck! All hands on deck! > > Report to implosion stations!! > > > lol, > > Dan what beautiful laughter. sharing isn't necessary. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > what beautiful laughter. > > sharing isn't necessary. > > .b b.b. endless laughter echoing in cyberspace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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