Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of the > > > known. > > > > Yes... well-put. > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > .b b.b. > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the survival > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - sex -sex-sex -sex > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its ok.. > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > re-cognition, > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > -geo- indeed - this is what survival is all about: maintaining the re-cognition. the unre-cognizable involves no investment in survival. that is what is shocking about this to the " body/mind of man " ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM Re: Geo on re-cognition Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of the > > > known. > > > > Yes... well-put. > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > .b b.b. > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the survival > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - sex -sex-sex -sex > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its ok.. > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > re-cognition, > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > -geo- indeed - this is what survival is all about: maintaining the re-cognition. the unre-cognizable involves no investment in survival. that is what is shocking about this to the " body/mind of man " ... geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090513-0, 13/05/2009 Tested on: 19/5/2009 22:30:44 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of the > > > > known. > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the survival > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - sex -sex-sex -sex > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its ok.. > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > > re-cognition, > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > -geo- > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > the unre-cognizable > > involves no investment in survival. > > that is what is shocking about this > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... > realizing that there is no such thing as the known. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:36 AM Re: Geo on re-cognition Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of the > > > > known. > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the survival > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - sex -sex-sex -sex > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its ok.. > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > > re-cognition, > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > -geo- > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > the unre-cognizable > > involves no investment in survival. > > that is what is shocking about this > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... > realizing that there is no such thing as the known. ..b b.b. Indeed. -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090513-0, 13/05/2009 Tested on: 20/5/2009 07:41:12 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of the > > > > known. > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the survival > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - sex -sex-sex -sex > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its ok.. > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > > re-cognition, > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > -geo- > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > the unre-cognizable > > involves no investment in survival. > > that is what is shocking about this > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > shift possible? Losing the attraction for the known.... > > > The known becomes once again the unknown. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of the > > > > > known. > > > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the survival > > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - sex -sex-sex -sex > > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its ok.. > > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > > > re-cognition, > > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > > -geo- > > > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > > > the unre-cognizable > > > > involves no investment in survival. > > > > that is what is shocking about this > > > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... > > > > > > > realizing that there is no such thing as the known. > > .b b.b. > ......and then dropping even that......... toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:14 AM Re: Geo on re-cognition Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of the > > > > > known. > > > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the survival > > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - sex -sex-sex -sex > > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its ok.. > > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > > > re-cognition, > > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > > -geo- > > > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > > > the unre-cognizable > > > > involves no investment in survival. > > > > that is what is shocking about this > > > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... > > > > > > > realizing that there is no such thing as the known. > > .b b.b. > ......and then dropping even that......... toombaru Well...yes, because the known is just sitting there in front of you. There is no way to force yourself into some kind of amnesia. To every bit of known the unknown will be attached... -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090513-0, 13/05/2009 Tested on: 20/5/2009 10:23:25 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of the > > > > > > known. > > > > > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the survival > > > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - sex -sex-sex -sex > > > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its ok.. > > > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > > > > re-cognition, > > > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > > > > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > > > > > the unre-cognizable > > > > > > involves no investment in survival. > > > > > > that is what is shocking about this > > > > > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > > > > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > > > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > realizing that there is no such thing as the known. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > .....and then dropping even that......... > > > > > toombaru there is no one to drop anything. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:14 AM > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of the > > > > > > known. > > > > > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the survival > > > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - sex -sex-sex -sex > > > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its ok.. > > > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > > > > re-cognition, > > > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > > > > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > > > > > the unre-cognizable > > > > > > involves no investment in survival. > > > > > > that is what is shocking about this > > > > > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > > > > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > > > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > realizing that there is no such thing as the known. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > .....and then dropping even that......... > > toombaru > > Well...yes, because the known is just sitting there in front of you. > There is no way to force yourself into some kind of amnesia. > To every bit of known the unknown will be attached... > -geo- who are you that the known sits in front of you? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:53 AM Re: Geo on re-cognition Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:14 AM > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of the > > > > > > known. > > > > > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the survival > > > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - sex -sex-sex -sex > > > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its ok.. > > > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > > > > re-cognition, > > > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > > > > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > > > > > the unre-cognizable > > > > > > involves no investment in survival. > > > > > > that is what is shocking about this > > > > > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > > > > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > > > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > realizing that there is no such thing as the known. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > .....and then dropping even that......... > > toombaru > > Well...yes, because the known is just sitting there in front of you. > There is no way to force yourself into some kind of amnesia. > To every bit of known the unknown will be attached... > -geo- who are you that the known sits in front of you? ..b b.b. its like that....now you have attached the unknown on to the known -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090513-0, 13/05/2009 Tested on: 20/5/2009 11:04:30 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:53 AM > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:14 AM > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dan330033 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of the > > > > > > > known. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > > > > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > > > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > > > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > > > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the survival > > > > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - sex -sex-sex -sex > > > > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > > > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its ok.. > > > > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > > > > > re-cognition, > > > > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > > > > > > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > > > > > > > the unre-cognizable > > > > > > > > involves no investment in survival. > > > > > > > > that is what is shocking about this > > > > > > > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > > > > > > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > > > > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realizing that there is no such thing as the known. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > .....and then dropping even that......... > > > > toombaru > > > > Well...yes, because the known is just sitting there in front of you. > > There is no way to force yourself into some kind of amnesia. > > To every bit of known the unknown will be attached... > > -geo- > > who are you that the known sits in front of you? > > .b b.b. > > its like that....now you have attached the unknown on to the known > -geo- oh i see. um hm. reflection on reflection. that's not what was alluded to. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:29 PM Re: Geo on re-cognition Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:53 AM > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:14 AM > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dan330033 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > known. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > > > > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > > > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > > > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > > > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the survival > > > > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - sex -sex-sex -sex > > > > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > > > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its > > > > > ok.. > > > > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > > > > > re-cognition, > > > > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > > > > > > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > > > > > > > the unre-cognizable > > > > > > > > involves no investment in survival. > > > > > > > > that is what is shocking about this > > > > > > > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > > > > > > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > > > > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realizing that there is no such thing as the known. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > .....and then dropping even that......... > > > > toombaru > > > > Well...yes, because the known is just sitting there in front of you. > > There is no way to force yourself into some kind of amnesia. > > To every bit of known the unknown will be attached... > > -geo- > > who are you that the known sits in front of you? > > .b b.b. > > its like that....now you have attached the unknown on to the known > -geo- oh i see. um hm. reflection on reflection. that's not what was alluded to. ..b b.b. What are you alluding to? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:29 PM > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:53 AM > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > toombaru2006 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:14 AM > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > > > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > known. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > > > > > > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > > > > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > > > > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > > > > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the survival > > > > > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - sex -sex-sex -sex > > > > > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > > > > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its > > > > > > ok.. > > > > > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > > > > > > re-cognition, > > > > > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > > > > > > > > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > > > > > > > > > the unre-cognizable > > > > > > > > > > involves no investment in survival. > > > > > > > > > > that is what is shocking about this > > > > > > > > > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > > > > > > > > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > > > > > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realizing that there is no such thing as the known. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > .....and then dropping even that......... > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Well...yes, because the known is just sitting there in front of you. > > > There is no way to force yourself into some kind of amnesia. > > > To every bit of known the unknown will be attached... > > > -geo- > > > > who are you that the known sits in front of you? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > its like that....now you have attached the unknown on to the known > > -geo- > > oh i see. > > um hm. > > reflection on reflection. > > that's not what was alluded to. > > .b b.b. > > What are you alluding to? > -geo- unknown to unknown. the known is an illusion. for whom does this illusion exist? to where does it project itself. the known may reflect the unknown.. and vice versa.. but this alluded to.. reflects nothing. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:25 PM Re: Geo on re-cognition Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:29 PM > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:53 AM > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > toombaru2006 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:14 AM > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > > > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > known. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > > > > > > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > > > > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > > > > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > > > > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the > > > > > > survival > > > > > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - > > > > > > sex -sex-sex -sex > > > > > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > > > > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its > > > > > > ok.. > > > > > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > > > > > > re-cognition, > > > > > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > > > > > > > > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > > > > > > > > > the unre-cognizable > > > > > > > > > > involves no investment in survival. > > > > > > > > > > that is what is shocking about this > > > > > > > > > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > > > > > > > > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > > > > > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realizing that there is no such thing as the known. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > .....and then dropping even that......... > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Well...yes, because the known is just sitting there in front of you. > > > There is no way to force yourself into some kind of amnesia. > > > To every bit of known the unknown will be attached... > > > -geo- > > > > who are you that the known sits in front of you? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > its like that....now you have attached the unknown on to the known > > -geo- > > oh i see. > > um hm. > > reflection on reflection. > > that's not what was alluded to. > > .b b.b. > > What are you alluding to? > -geo- unknown to unknown. the known is an illusion. for whom does this illusion exist? to where does it project itself. the known may reflect the unknown.. and vice versa.. but this alluded to.. reflects nothing. ..b b.b. ........going for a cup of coffee. Did you smoke? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > the unre-cognizable > > involves no investment in survival. > > that is what is shocking about this > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... Nothing made it possible that I can see. " I come as a thief in the night. " Now. Now is the impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:25 PM > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:29 PM > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:53 AM > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > toombaru2006 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:14 AM > > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > > > > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > > > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the unknown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > known. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > > > > > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > > > > > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > > > > > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the > > > > > > > survival > > > > > > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - > > > > > > > sex -sex-sex -sex > > > > > > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > > > > > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its > > > > > > > ok.. > > > > > > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " involves > > > > > > > re-cognition, > > > > > > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > > > > > > > > > > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > > > > > > > > > > > the unre-cognizable > > > > > > > > > > > > involves no investment in survival. > > > > > > > > > > > > that is what is shocking about this > > > > > > > > > > > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > > > > > > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realizing that there is no such thing as the known. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > .....and then dropping even that......... > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > Well...yes, because the known is just sitting there in front of you. > > > > There is no way to force yourself into some kind of amnesia. > > > > To every bit of known the unknown will be attached... > > > > -geo- > > > > > > who are you that the known sits in front of you? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > its like that....now you have attached the unknown on to the known > > > -geo- > > > > oh i see. > > > > um hm. > > > > reflection on reflection. > > > > that's not what was alluded to. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > What are you alluding to? > > -geo- > > unknown to unknown. > > the known is an illusion. > > for whom does this illusion exist? > > to where does it project itself. > > the known may reflect the unknown.. > > and vice versa.. > > but this alluded to.. > > reflects nothing. > > .b b.b. > > .......going for a cup of coffee. > Did you smoke? > -geo- did i smoke who? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:46 PM Re: Geo on re-cognition Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:25 PM > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:29 PM > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:53 AM > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > toombaru2006 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:14 AM > > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18 PM > > > > > > Re: Geo on re-cognition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Death where is thy sting? " > > > > > > > > > Death is primarily fear of aloneness, loss and the > > > > > > > > > unknown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> I dont think one fears the unknown. We fear the loss > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > known. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes... well-put. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is it that is known in the known we all fear to lose? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the aspect that the animal-man considers as " safe " . > > > > > > > There is an inherent mechanism in the human organism and all > > > > > > > animals, a strange apparatus programed in such a way that > > > > > > > repetition seems to be " good " . This is nescessary for the > > > > > > > survival > > > > > > > of the species - any species. Food -food-food - > > > > > > > sex -sex-sex -sex > > > > > > > masochism-masochism-masochism-obesity-obesity-obesity > > > > > > > You hear a song for the first time...hmmmm...the second....its > > > > > > > ok.. > > > > > > > the third ....you by it. The very nature of the " known " > > > > > > > involves > > > > > > > re-cognition, > > > > > > > another aspect nescessary for suvival. > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed - this is what survival is all about: > > > > > > > > > > > > maintaining the re-cognition. > > > > > > > > > > > > the unre-cognizable > > > > > > > > > > > > involves no investment in survival. > > > > > > > > > > > > that is what is shocking about this > > > > > > > > > > > > to the " body/mind of man " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> What kind of .....er... " event " .. should make this > > > > > > shift possible? Loosing the atraction for the known.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realizing that there is no such thing as the known. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > .....and then dropping even that......... > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > Well...yes, because the known is just sitting there in front of you. > > > > There is no way to force yourself into some kind of amnesia. > > > > To every bit of known the unknown will be attached... > > > > -geo- > > > > > > who are you that the known sits in front of you? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > its like that....now you have attached the unknown on to the known > > > -geo- > > > > oh i see. > > > > um hm. > > > > reflection on reflection. > > > > that's not what was alluded to. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > What are you alluding to? > > -geo- > > unknown to unknown. > > the known is an illusion. > > for whom does this illusion exist? > > to where does it project itself. > > the known may reflect the unknown.. > > and vice versa.. > > but this alluded to.. > > reflects nothing. > > .b b.b. > > .......going for a cup of coffee. > Did you smoke? > -geo- did i smoke who? ..b b.b. I forgot why I said that... -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090513-0, 13/05/2009 Tested on: 20/5/2009 17:52:13 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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