Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 PM > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:47:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > The sense of self evolved to hope. > > > > > > That's its job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ***I hope you're right, but I don't believe it. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > Can it ever be happy......for more than a few moments? > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to be > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't exist'. It > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the other. > > It's > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what it > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " is. > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream does the reality do the realing? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:33 PM Re: The Big Hoper Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 PM > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:47:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > The sense of self evolved to hope. > > > > > > That's its job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ***I hope you're right, but I don't believe it. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > Can it ever be happy......for more than a few moments? > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to be > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't exist'. > > It > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the other. > > It's > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what it > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " is. > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream does the reality do the realing? ..b b.b. LOL sort off. But there is not two - reality and the verb-ing It is real.....and.....always amazing. But then....To whom? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:33 PM > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Tim G. > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 PM > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:47:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > > > The sense of self evolved to hope. > > > > > > > > That's its job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > ***I hope you're right, but I don't believe it. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can it ever be happy......for more than a few moments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to be > > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't exist'. > > > It > > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the other. > > > It's > > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what it > > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " is. > > > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream > > does the reality do the realing? > > .b b.b. > > LOL sort off. But there is not two - reality and the verb-ing > It is real.....and.....always amazing. But then....To whom? > -geo- beats the hell out of me. thank god. but then there's no god to thank either. in which case: what the hell good does it do to have the hell beat out of you? might as well stay in an imaginary hell as an imaginary amazed. it is heavenly. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:52 PM Re: The Big Hoper Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:33 PM > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Tim G. > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 PM > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:47:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > > > The sense of self evolved to hope. > > > > > > > > That's its job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > ***I hope you're right, but I don't believe it. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can it ever be happy......for more than a few moments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to > > > be > > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't > > > exist'. > > > It > > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the > > > other. > > > It's > > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what > > > it > > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " > > is. > > > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream > > does the reality do the realing? > > .b b.b. > > LOL sort off. But there is not two - reality and the verb-ing > It is real.....and.....always amazing. But then....To whom? > -geo- beats the hell out of me. thank god. but then there's no god to thank either. in which case: what the hell good does it do to have the hell beat out of you? might as well stay in an imaginary hell as an imaginary amazed. it is heavenly. ..b b.b. geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may be an aspect of....IT. Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of " searching " ....no... " wondering " ...may also be quite real. I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 - souldreamone Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:57 PM Re: Re: The Big Hoper In a message dated 5/27/2009 5:16:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, inandor writes: > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to be > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't exist'. It > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the other. > It's > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what it > imagines into it's imaginary experience. The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " is. geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream ****Imaginary things aren't in possession of any talents at all and so volitional force cannot be assigned to them. There must be something that is not imaginary, something more fundamental that is the ultimate cause of stuff such as imagining, which has to be 'prior to' the imaginary thingy. geo> It is it. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 5:16:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > inandor writes: > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to be > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't exist'. > It > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the other. > > It's > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what it > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " is. > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream > > > > ****Imaginary things aren't in possession of any talents at all and so > volitional force cannot be assigned to them. There must be something that is > not imaginary, something more fundamental that is the ultimate cause of > stuff such as imagining, which has to be 'prior to' the imaginary thingy. prior???? time is imaginary. ask any good physicist. Sheeesh! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:52 PM > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:33 PM > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > Tim G. > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 PM > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:47:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > > > > > The sense of self evolved to hope. > > > > > > > > > > That's its job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > ***I hope you're right, but I don't believe it. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can it ever be happy......for more than a few moments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to > > > > be > > > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't > > > > exist'. > > > > It > > > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the > > > > other. > > > > It's > > > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what > > > > it > > > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > > > > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " > > > is. > > > > > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream > > > > does the reality do the realing? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > LOL sort off. But there is not two - reality and the verb-ing > > It is real.....and.....always amazing. But then....To whom? > > -geo- > > beats the hell out of me. > > thank god. > > but then there's no god to thank either. > > in which case: > > what the hell good does it do to have the hell beat out of you? > > might as well stay in an imaginary hell as an imaginary amazed. > > it is heavenly. > > .b b.b. > > geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may be > an aspect of....IT. > Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of > " searching " ....no... " wondering " ...may also be quite real. > I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads. Your life is the ? Every experience throws you back to yourself. At the heart of the ? itself, is the answer. - D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:24 PM Re: The Big Hoper Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:52 PM > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:33 PM > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > Tim G. > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 PM > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:47:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > > > > > The sense of self evolved to hope. > > > > > > > > > > That's its job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > ***I hope you're right, but I don't believe it. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can it ever be happy......for more than a few moments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs > > > > to > > > > be > > > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't > > > > exist'. > > > > It > > > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the > > > > other. > > > > It's > > > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what > > > > it > > > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > > > > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " > > > is. > > > > > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream > > > > does the reality do the realing? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > LOL sort off. But there is not two - reality and the verb-ing > > It is real.....and.....always amazing. But then....To whom? > > -geo- > > beats the hell out of me. > > thank god. > > but then there's no god to thank either. > > in which case: > > what the hell good does it do to have the hell beat out of you? > > might as well stay in an imaginary hell as an imaginary amazed. > > it is heavenly. > > .b b.b. > > geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may be > an aspect of....IT. > Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of > " searching " ....no... " wondering " ...may also be quite real. > I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads. Your life is the ? Every experience throws you back to yourself. At the heart of the ? itself, is the answer. - D. Sorry...no. The ? is beyond my life. That is what we are saying. The ? may be part of the ground itself. As if IT loved to ? See? =geo= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:52 PM > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:33 PM > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Tim G. > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 PM > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:47:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > The sense of self evolved to hope. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's its job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > ***I hope you're right, but I don't believe it. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can it ever be happy......for more than a few moments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to > > > > > be > > > > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't > > > > > exist'. > > > > > It > > > > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the > > > > > other. > > > > > It's > > > > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what > > > > > it > > > > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > > > > > > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " > > > > is. > > > > > > > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream > > > > > > does the reality do the realing? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > LOL sort off. But there is not two - reality and the verb-ing > > > It is real.....and.....always amazing. But then....To whom? > > > -geo- > > > > beats the hell out of me. > > > > thank god. > > > > but then there's no god to thank either. > > > > in which case: > > > > what the hell good does it do to have the hell beat out of you? > > > > might as well stay in an imaginary hell as an imaginary amazed. > > > > it is heavenly. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may be > > an aspect of....IT. > > Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of > > " searching " ....no... " wondering " ...may also be quite real. > > I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads. > > > but but but.. > > phil and dan.. > > they have all the answers. > > is that question mark over their heads just for laughs. > > i know their answers are good for laughs. > > :-) > > .b b.b. I'm not answering anything for " you. " Nor would I want to, or try to. I am the answer to the question that is me. At the heart of my living experience is the answer to the question that includes the entirety of my life experience. This is not an answer for you in any way. Nor should it be, or could it be. -- D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:52 PM > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:33 PM > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Tim G. > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 PM > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:47:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > The sense of self evolved to hope. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's its job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > ***I hope you're right, but I don't believe it. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can it ever be happy......for more than a few moments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to > > > > > be > > > > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't > > > > > exist'. > > > > > It > > > > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the > > > > > other. > > > > > It's > > > > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what > > > > > it > > > > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > > > > > > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " > > > > is. > > > > > > > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream > > > > > > does the reality do the realing? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > LOL sort off. But there is not two - reality and the verb-ing > > > It is real.....and.....always amazing. But then....To whom? > > > -geo- > > > > beats the hell out of me. > > > > thank god. > > > > but then there's no god to thank either. > > > > in which case: > > > > what the hell good does it do to have the hell beat out of you? > > > > might as well stay in an imaginary hell as an imaginary amazed. > > > > it is heavenly. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may be > > an aspect of....IT. > > Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of > > " searching " ....no... " wondering " ...may also be quite real. > > I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads. > > Your life is the ? > > Every experience throws you back to yourself. > > At the heart of the ? itself, is the answer. > > - D. there is no answer. there isn't anything that needs answering. Sheesh! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:52 PM > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:33 PM > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 PM > > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:47:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The sense of self evolved to hope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's its job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***I hope you're right, but I don't believe it. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can it ever be happy......for more than a few moments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to > > > > > > be > > > > > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't > > > > > > exist'. > > > > > > It > > > > > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the > > > > > > other. > > > > > > It's > > > > > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what > > > > > > it > > > > > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > > > > > > > > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " > > > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream > > > > > > > > does the reality do the realing? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > LOL sort off. But there is not two - reality and the verb-ing > > > > It is real.....and.....always amazing. But then....To whom? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > beats the hell out of me. > > > > > > thank god. > > > > > > but then there's no god to thank either. > > > > > > in which case: > > > > > > what the hell good does it do to have the hell beat out of you? > > > > > > might as well stay in an imaginary hell as an imaginary amazed. > > > > > > it is heavenly. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may be > > > an aspect of....IT. > > > Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of > > > " searching " ....no... " wondering " ...may also be quite real. > > > I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads. > > > > > > but but but.. > > > > phil and dan.. > > > > they have all the answers. > > > > is that question mark over their heads just for laughs. > > > > i know their answers are good for laughs. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > I'm not answering anything for " you. " good. i wasn't talking to you. i wasn't asking you. yet..you give an answer to me that you don't answer me. are you ok? > > Nor would I want to, or try to. you just did. > > I am the answer to the question that is me. i have no questions about you. i figured you out long ago. what is your " me " question?.. the one that IS you? > > At the heart of my living experience is the answer to the question that includes the entirety of my life experience. ah..it's inclusive. LOL! > > This is not an answer for you in any way. > > Nor should it be, or could it be. > > -- D. i know that. never thought differently. had no expectations. it's just the same b.s. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:52 PM > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:33 PM > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 PM > > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:47:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The sense of self evolved to hope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's its job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***I hope you're right, but I don't believe it. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can it ever be happy......for more than a few moments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to > > > > > > be > > > > > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't > > > > > > exist'. > > > > > > It > > > > > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the > > > > > > other. > > > > > > It's > > > > > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what > > > > > > it > > > > > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > > > > > > > > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " > > > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream > > > > > > > > does the reality do the realing? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > LOL sort off. But there is not two - reality and the verb-ing > > > > It is real.....and.....always amazing. But then....To whom? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > beats the hell out of me. > > > > > > thank god. > > > > > > but then there's no god to thank either. > > > > > > in which case: > > > > > > what the hell good does it do to have the hell beat out of you? > > > > > > might as well stay in an imaginary hell as an imaginary amazed. > > > > > > it is heavenly. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may be > > > an aspect of....IT. > > > Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of > > > " searching " ....no... " wondering " ...may also be quite real. > > > I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads. > > > > Your life is the ? > > > > Every experience throws you back to yourself. > > > > At the heart of the ? itself, is the answer. > > > > - D. > > > there is no answer. > > there isn't anything that needs answering. > > Sheesh! > > .b b.b. there is no. isn't anything. yes, I get that schtick. there isn't any " isn't " ... d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:52 PM > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:33 PM > > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 PM > > > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:47:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The sense of self evolved to hope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's its job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***I hope you're right, but I don't believe it. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can it ever be happy......for more than a few moments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't > > > > > > > exist'. > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the > > > > > > > other. > > > > > > > It's > > > > > > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " > > > > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream > > > > > > > > > > does the reality do the realing? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > LOL sort off. But there is not two - reality and the verb-ing > > > > > It is real.....and.....always amazing. But then....To whom? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > beats the hell out of me. > > > > > > > > thank god. > > > > > > > > but then there's no god to thank either. > > > > > > > > in which case: > > > > > > > > what the hell good does it do to have the hell beat out of you? > > > > > > > > might as well stay in an imaginary hell as an imaginary amazed. > > > > > > > > it is heavenly. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may be > > > > an aspect of....IT. > > > > Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of > > > > " searching " ....no... " wondering " ...may also be quite real. > > > > I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads. > > > > > > Your life is the ? > > > > > > Every experience throws you back to yourself. > > > > > > At the heart of the ? itself, is the answer. > > > > > > - D. > > > > > > there is no answer. > > > > there isn't anything that needs answering. > > > > Sheesh! > > > > .b b.b. > > > there is no. > > isn't anything. > > yes, I get that schtick. > > there isn't any " isn't " ... > > d. that all depends on what your definition of isn't isn't. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:52 PM > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:33 PM > > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 PM > > > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:47:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The sense of self evolved to hope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's its job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***I hope you're right, but I don't believe it. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can it ever be happy......for more than a few moments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't > > > > > > > exist'. > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the > > > > > > > other. > > > > > > > It's > > > > > > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " > > > > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream > > > > > > > > > > does the reality do the realing? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > LOL sort off. But there is not two - reality and the verb-ing > > > > > It is real.....and.....always amazing. But then....To whom? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > beats the hell out of me. > > > > > > > > thank god. > > > > > > > > but then there's no god to thank either. > > > > > > > > in which case: > > > > > > > > what the hell good does it do to have the hell beat out of you? > > > > > > > > might as well stay in an imaginary hell as an imaginary amazed. > > > > > > > > it is heavenly. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may be > > > > an aspect of....IT. > > > > Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of > > > > " searching " ....no... " wondering " ...may also be quite real. > > > > I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads. > > > > > > > > > but but but.. > > > > > > phil and dan.. > > > > > > they have all the answers. > > > > > > is that question mark over their heads just for laughs. > > > > > > i know their answers are good for laughs. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > I'm not answering anything for " you. " > > > > > good. > > i wasn't talking to you. > > i wasn't asking you. > > yet..you give an answer to me that you don't answer me. > > are you ok? > > > > > > > > > Nor would I want to, or try to. > > > you just did. > > > > > > > > I am the answer to the question that is me. > > > > > i have no questions about you. > > i figured you out long ago. > > what is your " me " question?.. > > the one that IS you? > > > At the heart of my living experience is the answer to the question that includes the entirety of my life experience. > > > ah..it's inclusive. > > LOL! > > > > > > > This is not an answer for you in any way. > > > > Nor should it be, or could it be. > > > > -- D. > > > > > i know that. > > never thought differently. > > had no expectations. > > it's just the same b.s. > > .b b.b. you say in many different ways, the word " bullshit " over and over. bullshit, up yours, there isn't any, there is no ... i get your talk. love you. one only lets go as much as one is able to let go. it can't be forced. nothing anyone says will help. saying there is nothing to let go, and no one to let anything go, does not release all the baggage ... the baggage is in the repeated attempts, the repeated concepts, the repetition compulsion. it has to be lived through. there's no other way out but through. yours in mutual compassion, d. 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Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > > > there is no. > > > > isn't anything. > > > > yes, I get that schtick. > > > > there isn't any " isn't " ... > > > > d. > > > that all depends on what your definition of isn't isn't. > > .b b.b. Funny. You made me laugh. Good work. Sayonara, D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 You're both in the Mind. Whatever's on the surface here, thanks ya both ;-). Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > you say in many different ways, the word " bullshit " over and over. > > bullshit, up yours, there isn't any, there is no ... > > i get your talk. > > love you. > > one only lets go as much as one is able to let go. > > it can't be forced. > > nothing anyone says will help. > > saying there is nothing to let go, and no one to let anything go, > > does not release all the baggage ... > > the baggage is in the repeated attempts, > > the repeated concepts, > > the repetition compulsion. > > it has to be lived through. > > there's no other way out but through. > > yours in mutual compassion, > > d. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:52 PM > > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:33 PM > > > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 PM > > > > > > > Re: The Big Hoper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:47:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The sense of self evolved to hope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's its job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***I hope you're right, but I don't believe it. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can it ever be happy......for more than a few moments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't > > > > > > > > exist'. > > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the > > > > > > > > other. > > > > > > > > It's > > > > > > > > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > imagines into it's imaginary experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " > > > > > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream > > > > > > > > > > > > does the reality do the realing? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL sort off. But there is not two - reality and the verb-ing > > > > > > It is real.....and.....always amazing. But then....To whom? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > beats the hell out of me. > > > > > > > > > > thank god. > > > > > > > > > > but then there's no god to thank either. > > > > > > > > > > in which case: > > > > > > > > > > what the hell good does it do to have the hell beat out of you? > > > > > > > > > > might as well stay in an imaginary hell as an imaginary amazed. > > > > > > > > > > it is heavenly. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may be > > > > > an aspect of....IT. > > > > > Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of > > > > > " searching " ....no... " wondering " ...may also be quite real. > > > > > I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads. > > > > > > > > > > > > but but but.. > > > > > > > > phil and dan.. > > > > > > > > they have all the answers. > > > > > > > > is that question mark over their heads just for laughs. > > > > > > > > i know their answers are good for laughs. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > I'm not answering anything for " you. " > > > > > > > > > > good. > > > > i wasn't talking to you. > > > > i wasn't asking you. > > > > yet..you give an answer to me that you don't answer me. > > > > are you ok? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor would I want to, or try to. > > > > > > you just did. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am the answer to the question that is me. > > > > > > > > > > i have no questions about you. > > > > i figured you out long ago. > > > > what is your " me " question?.. > > > > the one that IS you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the heart of my living experience is the answer to the question that includes the entirety of my life experience. > > > > > > ah..it's inclusive. > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not an answer for you in any way. > > > > > > Nor should it be, or could it be. > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > i know that. > > > > never thought differently. > > > > had no expectations. > > > > it's just the same b.s. > > > > .b b.b. > > > you say in many different ways, the word " bullshit " over and over. yes i do. how astute of you. > > bullshit, up yours, there isn't any, there is no ... you're offended? > > i get your talk. > > love you. > > one only lets go as much as one is able to let go. try to let go a little more dan. > > it can't be forced. > > nothing anyone says will help. i've discovered this in your case. > saying there is nothing to let go, and no one to let anything go, > > does not release all the baggage ... > > the baggage is in the repeated attempts, > > the repeated concepts, > > the repetition compulsion. it's inclusive dan. everlastingness that is ephemeral.. beginningless endingless somethingless nothingness. LOL! i think you're reading your own repetitions... your own compulsions.... your own repeated concepts.. that change when challenged. you carry a steamer trunk. that's a lot of big baggage danny. > > it has to be lived through. > > there's no other way out but through. > > yours in mutual compassion, > > d. mutual my ass. compassion is for fools that think there are " others " . " others " who have need of " their " good will. what a load of.. well i don't want to offend your sensibilities. dream on dan. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > there is no. > > > > > > isn't anything. > > > > > > yes, I get that schtick. > > > > > > there isn't any " isn't " ... > > > > > > d. > > > > > > that all depends on what your definition of isn't isn't. > > > > .b b.b. > > > Funny. > > You made me laugh. > > Good work. > > > Sayonara, > > D. i didn't make you do anything. bad form! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 6:41:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > inandor writes: > > > geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may > be > > an aspect of....IT. > > Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of > > " searching " ....no... " wondering " ...may also be quite real. > > I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads. > > Your life is the ? > > Every experience throws you back to yourself. > > At the heart of the ? itself, is the answer. > > - D. > > > Sorry...no. The ? is beyond my life. That is what we are saying. The ? > may be part of the ground itself. > As if IT loved to ? See? > =geo= > > > > ****What 'it' loves is experience, which is a movement, and so whatever is > necessary to initiate and maintain a movement is what will happen. > Imagining dualistic polarities into existence and moving toward one pole and away > from the other is great fun. Inventing a question and then seeking the > answer is cool too. Mental bifurcation is an endless source of movement, as > we've seen here today. > > The dualistic polarities are unreal and the questions meaningless. > " it " doesn't " love " anything. " it " is indifferent to all motion or halting. " it " has no " cool " . " it " is meaningless same as the dualistic polarities and questions. there is nothing necessary. you're attempting to give answer where no question is posed. you like to hear yourself talk. you are meaningless. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 - souldreamone Nisargadatta Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:11 AM Re: Re: The Big Hoper In a message dated 5/27/2009 6:18:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, inandor writes: In a message dated 5/27/2009 5:16:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, inandor writes: > ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to be > happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't exist'. It > happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the other. > It's > a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what it > imagines into it's imaginary experience. The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say " I Am " is. geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream ****Imaginary things aren't in possession of any talents at all and so volitional force cannot be assigned to them. There must be something that is not imaginary, something more fundamental that is the ultimate cause of stuff such as imagining, which has to be 'prior to' the imaginary thingy. geo> It is it. ***What is what? Hehe. geo> The same. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 28/5/2009 07:00:23 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 - souldreamone Nisargadatta Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:31 AM Re: Re: The Big Hoper In a message dated 5/27/2009 6:41:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, inandor writes: > geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may be > an aspect of....IT. > Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of > " searching " ....no... " wondering " ...may also be quite real. > I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads. Your life is the ? Every experience throws you back to yourself. At the heart of the ? itself, is the answer. - D. Sorry...no. The ? is beyond my life. That is what we are saying. The ? may be part of the ground itself. As if IT loved to ? See? =geo= ****What 'it' loves is experience, which is a movement, and so whatever is necessary to initiate and maintain a movement is what will happen. Imagining dualistic polarities into existence and moving toward one pole and away from the other is great fun. Inventing a question and then seeking the answer is cool too. Mental bifurcation is an endless source of movement, as we've seen here today. The dualistic polarities are unreal and the questions meaningless. geo> There is no way to put it. Any symbols are dualistic. Quantum step. Movement stops. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 28/5/2009 07:00:24 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > souldreamone > Nisargadatta > Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:31 AM > Re: Re: The Big Hoper > In a message dated 5/27/2009 6:41:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > inandor writes: > > geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may be > > an aspect of....IT. > > Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of > > " searching " ....no... " wondering " ...may also be quite real. > > I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads. > > Your life is the ? > > Every experience throws you back to yourself. > > At the heart of the ? itself, is the answer. > > - D. > > > Sorry...no. The ? is beyond my life. That is what we are saying. The ? > may be part of the ground itself. > As if IT loved to ? See? > =geo= > > ****What 'it' loves is experience, which is a movement, and so whatever is > necessary to initiate and maintain a movement is what will happen. Imagining > dualistic polarities into existence and moving toward one pole and away from > the other is great fun. Inventing a question and then seeking the answer is > cool too. Mental bifurcation is an endless source of movement, as we've seen > here today. > > The dualistic polarities are unreal and the questions meaningless. > > geo> There is no way to put it. Any symbols are dualistic. Quantum step. > Movement stops. there is no such thing as movement. there is no such thing as " to stop " . those are aspects of time and space. there are none such. so..so. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:34:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, inandor writes: In a message dated 5/27/2009 6:18:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, inandor writes:In a message dated 5/27/2009 5:16:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,inandor writes:> ****Yes, when there is no longer any interest in the one who needs to be> happy. This doesn't come about by repeating the mantra 'I don't exist'. It> happens when there is nobody who needs to declare one way or the other.> It's> a total lack of interest in this imaginary person regardless of what it> imagines into it's imaginary experience.The imaginary person is not doing the imagining. One could say "I Am" is.geo> The imaginary is doing the imagining. the dreamer is the dream****Imaginary things aren't in possession of any talents at all and sovolitional force cannot be assigned to them. There must be something that isnot imaginary, something more fundamental that is the ultimate cause ofstuff such as imagining, which has to be 'prior to' the imaginary thingy.geo> It is it.***What is what? Hehe.geo> The same. ****The imagined is not imagining itself into existence. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:41:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, inandor writes: - souldreamoneTo: Nisargadatta Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:31 AMRe: Re: The Big HoperIn a message dated 5/27/2009 6:41:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, inandor writes:> geo> Hmmmm....I think this amazement is not necessarily a dream. It may be> an aspect of....IT.> Just like other feelings alike. Even the sense of> "searching"....no..."wondering"...may also be quite real.> I think REAL man live with a ? above their heads.Your life is the ?Every experience throws you back to yourself.At the heart of the ? itself, is the answer.- D.Sorry...no. The ? is beyond my life. That is what we are saying. The ?may be part of the ground itself.As if IT loved to ? See?=geo=****What 'it' loves is experience, which is a movement, and so whatever is necessary to initiate and maintain a movement is what will happen. Imagining dualistic polarities into existence and moving toward one pole and away from the other is great fun. Inventing a question and then seeking the answer is cool too. Mental bifurcation is an endless source of movement, as we've seen here today.The dualistic polarities are unreal and the questions meaningless.geo> There is no way to put it. Any symbols are dualistic. Quantum step. Movement stops. ***You think too much. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:10:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dan330033 writes: > ****What 'it' loves is experience, which is a movement, and so whatever is > necessary to initiate and maintain a movement is what will happen. > Imagining dualistic polarities into existence and moving toward one pole and away > from the other is great fun. Inventing a question and then seeking the > answer is cool too. Mental bifurcation is an endless source of movement, as > we've seen here today.> > The dualistic polarities are unreal and the questions meaningless.The polarities are only as real as you make them.You are only as real as they make you.Statements of negation, saying nothing exists or everything is meaningless are also on one side of a polarity.-- D. ****It wasn't my intention to speak nondualese. I'm just saying the polarities and questions are inventions of mind which lead to a movement. The movement is of significance, but the polarities and questions are pretty much irrelevant. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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