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In a message dated 5/27/2009 1:17:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, inandor writes:

 

In respect that this is a list founded because of the words of Nisargadatta, I did a quick internet search for a Nis quote. Didn't take long, just a few seconds really. Came up with the following, very on-target statements, for my eyes:As long as you are wearing this concept `I am' you will be involved with all the concepts. When this concept `I am' departs there will be no memory left that `I was' and `I had' those experiences; the very memory will be erased.All this process of communication, expounding, etc., will go on so long as this conscious presence is available, and all this is to merely satisfy the concept `I am', and you the Absolute, are not the primary concept `I am'.That which you like most - that itself is `I am', the conscious presence - but that is not going to last forever. When the body drops off and the consciousness is extinguished, you need to do nothing. With this understanding do what you like in the world.The only spiritual way to understanding you true nature is to find out the source of this concept `I am'. Before the sense of presence arrived I was in that state in which the concept of time was never there. So what is born? It is the concept of time, and that event which is birth, living, and death together constitute nothing but time, duration.When you are the space you are no more the body, but whatever is contained in that space you are. You are now manifest - whatever is known - the space. This space is known as `chidakash'. In `chidakash this knowingness is `I am'. In the highest `Paramakash' there is no is or is not, It transcends everything.====If one had to identify which part of the organism is able to grasp this....Paramakash' .... not an easy task. It is almost by elimination, through negation...but then there is something absolutely positive about it. Take toomba...he says that Paramakash, or the ground, is a product of the brain (or mind? not sure toomba), but that is not the correct understanding/perception/insight upon the matter.-geo-

 

 

****You are not in the organism, the organism is in You. That which is aware of the organism is what transcends everything. There is no need for 'it' to grasp anything. Whatever can be grasped is not the one grasping.

 

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Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:

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> In a message dated 5/27/2009 1:17:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> inandor writes:

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> In respect that this is a list founded because of the words of

> Nisargadatta,

> I did a quick internet search for a Nis quote. Didn't take long, just a

> few

> seconds really. Came up with the following, very on-target statements, for

> my eyes:

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> As long as you are wearing this concept `I am' you will be involved with

> all

> the concepts. When this concept `I am' departs there will be no memory

> left

> that `I was' and `I had' those experiences; the very memory will be erased.

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> All this process of communication, expounding, etc., will go on so long as

> this conscious presence is available, and all this is to merely satisfy

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> concept `I am', and you the Absolute, are not the primary concept `I am'.

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> That which you like most - that itself is `I am', the conscious presence -

> but that is not going to last forever. When the body drops off and the

> consciousness is extinguished, you need to do nothing. With this

> understanding do what you like in the world.

>

> The only spiritual way to understanding you true nature is to find out the

> source of this concept `I am'. Before the sense of presence arrived I was

> in

> that state in which the concept of time was never there. So what is born?

> It

> is the concept of time, and that event which is birth, living, and death

> together constitute nothing but time, duration.

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> When you are the space you are no more the body, but whatever is contained

> in that space you are. You are now manifest - whatever is known - the

> space.

> This space is known as `chidakash'. In `chidakash this knowingness is `I

> am'. In the highest `Paramakash' there is no is or is not, It transcends

> everything.

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> ====

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> If one had to identify which part of the organism is able to grasp

> this....Paramakash' .... not an easy task. It is almost by elimination,

> through negation...but then there is something absolutely positive about

> it.

> Take toomba...he says that Paramakash, or the ground, is a product of the

> brain (or mind? not sure toomba), but that is not the correct

> understanding/perception/insight upon the matter.

> -geo-

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> ****You are not in the organism, the organism is in You. That which is

> aware of the organism is what transcends everything. There is no need for

'it'

> to grasp anything. Whatever can be grasped is not the one grasping.

 

geo> It is correct. But some part of the organism must....how shell i

say....accept the fact that it can not grasp it. So..some aspect of the mind

understands its own limitations...And such organism will not say that the grond

is a product of the mind.

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