Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > One's life is like a bubble. > > The bubble includes all the events and their timing. > > The bubble has no duration. > > Birth and death are two ways of describing the same sphere. > > The sphere seen from two different angles. > > Depending on an imaginary arrow of time (that only is > perceivable " within " the bubble). > > One bubble implies infinite bubbles. > > Each bubble implies an imaginary center, which Nis. called " I am. " > > It is like a point of being-ness used as a center for a bubble. > > To lose the center isn't to lose anything real. > > It is to lose the misunderstanding that a point of being-ness could > be separated and so could serve as the center of a personal life > experience. The center of a personal life experience includes interaction with other people Are other people " in " other bubbles (and are the bubbles interacting), or from any given " center " is the personal life experience included wholly within the particular bubble? I'm aware we're playing with concepts here, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > One's life is like a bubble. > > > > The bubble includes all the events and their timing. > > > > The bubble has no duration. > > > > Birth and death are two ways of describing the same sphere. > > > > The sphere seen from two different angles. > > > > Depending on an imaginary arrow of time (that only is > > perceivable " within " the bubble). > > > > One bubble implies infinite bubbles. > > > > Each bubble implies an imaginary center, which Nis. called " I am. " > > > > It is like a point of being-ness used as a center for a bubble. > > > > To lose the center isn't to lose anything real. > > > > It is to lose the misunderstanding that a point of being-ness could > be separated and so could serve as the center of a personal life > > experience. > > The center of a personal life experience includes interaction with other people > > Are other people " in " other bubbles (and are the bubbles interacting), or from any given " center " is the personal life experience included wholly within the particular bubble? > > I'm aware we're playing with concepts here, but... What else could we be doing here? The outside of one bubble is the inside of another. There is no actual separation into inside and outside. Just the imagined centers that give that appearance, that perspective. One being aware of this sees something very ... what words could apply: weird, wonderful, terrifying, exhilarating, empty, blissful ... whatever reaction one would have is just included in the show ... Awareness simultaneously inside and out, forming bubbles without any real separation ever happening ... playing all the roles, being all the experiences .... Infinitely ... And, at once, simply ... Nothing. Not a nihilistic nothing at all. Endlessly creative nothing. Creating without anything happening. Positive and negative related infinitely, without separation ... Just like M.C. Escher imaged ... -- D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > One's life is like a bubble. > > > > > > The bubble includes all the events and their timing. > > > > > > The bubble has no duration. > > > > > > Birth and death are two ways of describing the same sphere. > > > > > > The sphere seen from two different angles. > > > > > > Depending on an imaginary arrow of time (that only is > > > perceivable " within " the bubble). > > > > > > One bubble implies infinite bubbles. > > > > > > Each bubble implies an imaginary center, which Nis. called " I am. " > > > > > > It is like a point of being-ness used as a center for a bubble. > > > > > > To lose the center isn't to lose anything real. > > > > > > It is to lose the misunderstanding that a point of being-ness could > be separated and so could serve as the center of a personal life > > > experience. > > > > The center of a personal life experience includes interaction with other people > > > > Are other people " in " other bubbles (and are the bubbles interacting), or from any given " center " is the personal life experience included wholly within the particular bubble? > > > > I'm aware we're playing with concepts here, but... > > What else could we be doing here? > > The outside of one bubble is the inside of another. > > There is no actual separation into inside and outside. > > Just the imagined centers that give that appearance, that perspective. > > One being aware of this sees something very ... what words could apply: > > weird, wonderful, terrifying, exhilarating, empty, blissful ... > > whatever reaction one would have is just included in the show ... > > > Awareness simultaneously inside and out, forming bubbles without any real separation ever happening ... playing all the roles, being all the experiences .... > > Infinitely ... > > And, at once, simply ... > > Nothing. > > Not a nihilistic nothing at all. > > Endlessly creative nothing. > > Creating without anything happening. > > Positive and negative related infinitely, without separation ... > > Just like M.C. Escher imaged ... > > -- D. but he never pulled it off. false perspective that all. '60s and '70s fascination. computer graphics do a better job nowadays. and they aren't imagining anything. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > What else could we be doing here? > > The outside of one bubble is the inside of another. > > There is no actual separation into inside and outside. Yes... to say " the outside of one bubble is the inside of another " implies there's an actual outside to a bubble, and an actual " other inside " outside it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > What else could we be doing here? > > The outside of one bubble is the inside of another. > > There is no actual separation into inside and outside. Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > What else could we be doing here? > > The outside of one bubble is the inside of another. > > There is no actual separation into inside and outside. Yes... to say " the outside of one bubble is the inside of another " implies there's an actual outside to a bubble, and an actual " other inside " outside it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:17 PM Re: Physical Death /Dan Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > What else could we be doing here? > > The outside of one bubble is the inside of another. > > There is no actual separation into inside and outside. Yes... to say " the outside of one bubble is the inside of another " implies there's an actual outside to a bubble, and an actual " other inside " outside it. geo>Or perhaps...inside each bubble there is a holographic representation of " other " bubbles. avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 28/5/2009 07:00:21 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:17 PM > Re: Physical Death /Dan > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > What else could we be doing here? > > > > The outside of one bubble is the inside of another. > > > > There is no actual separation into inside and outside. > > Yes... to say " the outside of one bubble is the inside of another " implies > there's an actual outside to a bubble, and an actual " other inside " outside > it. > > geo>Or perhaps...inside each bubble there is a holographic representation of > " other " bubbles. yes. and not even a representation. each one includes every other one. there is no separation of bubbles, no way that one could exclude another (no matter how hard some may seem to try, and believe they are succeeding) because there is no actual separation, every bubble is in every other bubble. the outside is the inside. -- d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Tim G. > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:17 PM > > Re: Physical Death /Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > What else could we be doing here? > > > > > > The outside of one bubble is the inside of another. > > > > > > There is no actual separation into inside and outside. > > > > Yes... to say " the outside of one bubble is the inside of another " implies > > there's an actual outside to a bubble, and an actual " other inside " outside > > it. > > > > geo>Or perhaps...inside each bubble there is a holographic representation of > > " other " bubbles. > > yes. and not even a representation. each one includes every other one. > > there is no separation of bubbles, no way that one could exclude another (no matter how hard some may seem to try, and believe they are succeeding) > > because there is no actual separation, every bubble is in every other bubble. > > the outside is the inside. > > -- d. parts of a hologram are not representations. bust up a hologram into a million pieces.. and each one is the same hologram. but then..those are only " parts " .. wow there's that imagination thing huh? LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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