Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 it is easier to touch the right elbow with the right hand.. than it would be for anyone to touch the " self " . and for ONE reason requiring no reasoning. like you trying to be true to yourself. now do not think about it... it's not thinkable. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 bbb, something I have been wondering about... What is the concern of someone who knows that " other " people, -just like himself - , are illusion, with these illusional people around him? What is the meaning of sorrow for such a man...if any. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 That's a good question. I had difficulty viewing my loved ones as illusions, to be treated like all other 'experiencables' (dispassionately watched). It just struck me as wrong. But I do not pretend to understand this non-dual stuff either. I wonder what Maharaj would have said? Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > bbb, something I have been wondering about... > What is the concern of someone who knows that " other " people, -just like > himself - , are illusion, with these illusional people around him? > What is the meaning of sorrow for such a man...if any. > -geo- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > bbb, something I have been wondering about... > What is the concern of someone who knows that " other " people, -just like > himself - , are illusion, with these illusional people around him? > What is the meaning of sorrow for such a man...if any. > -geo- as i know i " am " : without need of ever " seeing " myself say the blind... or touching myself say the nerve damaged.. or hearing myself say the deaf.. or speaking this without saying it say the speechless... know also: sorrow..pain..love..and " all things " somehow attest they " are " . they do not belong to me or anyone " else " . this is false premise. they are not however other than i. imagination imagines... and is itself imagined. sometimes the images seem rude or ugly..or their opposites. but the one to whom this seems apparent.. is filmier than the imagining that imagines. walking..just walk.. suffering..just suffer.. nothing changes in the seemingly ever changing phantasmagoria. " it " has never been otherwise. and it has no reason or meaning. i don't know why there is no why. there just is an isn't-ing. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Friday, May 29, 2009 10:54 AM Re: the self the hand and the elbow... Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > bbb, something I have been wondering about... > What is the concern of someone who knows that " other " people, -just like > himself - , are illusion, with these illusional people around him? > What is the meaning of sorrow for such a man...if any. > -geo- as i know i " am " : without need of ever " seeing " myself say the blind... or touching myself say the nerve damaged.. or hearing myself say the deaf.. or speaking this without saying it say the speechless... know also: sorrow..pain..love..and " all things " somehow attest they " are " . they do not belong to me or anyone " else " . this is false premise. they are not however other than i. imagination imagines... and is itself imagined. sometimes the images seem rude or ugly..or their opposites. but the one to whom this seems apparent.. is filmier than the imagining that imagines. walking..just walk.. suffering..just suffer.. nothing changes in the seemingly ever changing phantasmagoria. " it " has never been otherwise. and it has no reason or meaning. i don't know why there is no why. there just is an isn't-ing. ..b b.b. Thanks bbb -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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