Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > geo> You are so clever! You are calling it a " this " . So you are the namer > > > separate from it. > > > > yes, this is so. > > > > this is why this conversation is imaginary. > > > > geo> This is why it is imaginary??? So there is need for reasons, causes, > > particular events for it to be? > > Not at all. Me naming it is the reason it's imaginary. The reason is therefore imaginary, because it was named " the reason. " The imaginary reason is naming. > > *This is neither real nor unreal, and neither is nor isn't.* > > > geo> Really? And how do you know that you are what you state you are? - > > Atemporal? > > From your memory? Yes...I always thought you where being theoretical. Your > > atemporality is conceptual. > > Any word we use is conceptual. > > There isn't a " your " and " my " atemporality. > > You or me could be imagined as having offered the word " atemporality. " > > But the actuality, the unnameable actual - never could come from you or me, nor belong to you or me, nor have you or me in it. > > Clearly the word is not the actuality. > > The actuality doesn't involve having a verbally-oriented meaning or construction. > > So why use the word " actuality? " > > Just for the fun of communicating. > > As long as it's fun. > > If it's not fun, it doesn't need to happen. > > -- D -- nothing NEEDS to " happen " . ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > that depends on what your definition of " is " is. > > > > Monica was an " it " girl. > > > > Bill did not believe in " it " . > > > > so he said fuck " it " . > > You know how they say " It's raining outside " ... is that the " it " Bill fucked? :-D. did you miss the designation Monica? are you all wet? ok.. i understand. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Clearly the word is not the actuality. > > > > The actuality doesn't involve having a verbally-oriented meaning or > > construction. > > > > So why use the word " actuality? " > > > > Just for the fun of communicating. > > In a sense, too, the word *is* the actuality. The description of the observer is the only observer there is, separate from the observed. That observer constitutes nothing more than a belief that the description is 'it'. Well-said, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > geo> You are so clever! You are calling it a " this " . So you are the namer > > > > separate from it. > > > > > > yes, this is so. > > > > > > this is why this conversation is imaginary. > > > > > > geo> This is why it is imaginary??? So there is need for reasons, causes, > > > particular events for it to be? > > > > Not at all. Me naming it is the reason it's imaginary. The reason is therefore imaginary, because it was named " the reason. " The imaginary reason is naming. > > > > *This is neither real nor unreal, and neither is nor isn't.* > > > > > geo> Really? And how do you know that you are what you state you are? - > > > Atemporal? > > > From your memory? Yes...I always thought you where being theoretical. Your > > > atemporality is conceptual. > > > > Any word we use is conceptual. > > > > There isn't a " your " and " my " atemporality. > > > > You or me could be imagined as having offered the word " atemporality. " > > > > But the actuality, the unnameable actual - never could come from you or me, nor belong to you or me, nor have you or me in it. > > > > Clearly the word is not the actuality. > > > > The actuality doesn't involve having a verbally-oriented meaning or construction. > > > > So why use the word " actuality? " > > > > Just for the fun of communicating. > > > > As long as it's fun. > > > > If it's not fun, it doesn't need to happen. > > > > -- D -- > > > nothing NEEDS to " happen " . > > .b b.b. True. Nothing needs to happen. It is all that happens. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> You are so clever! You are calling it a " this " . So you are the namer > > > > > separate from it. > > > > > > > > yes, this is so. > > > > > > > > this is why this conversation is imaginary. > > > > > > > > geo> This is why it is imaginary??? So there is need for reasons, causes, > > > > particular events for it to be? > > > > > > Not at all. Me naming it is the reason it's imaginary. The reason is therefore imaginary, because it was named " the reason. " The imaginary reason is naming. > > > > > > *This is neither real nor unreal, and neither is nor isn't.* > > > > > > > geo> Really? And how do you know that you are what you state you are? - > > > > Atemporal? > > > > From your memory? Yes...I always thought you where being theoretical. Your > > > > atemporality is conceptual. > > > > > > Any word we use is conceptual. > > > > > > There isn't a " your " and " my " atemporality. > > > > > > You or me could be imagined as having offered the word " atemporality. " > > > > > > But the actuality, the unnameable actual - never could come from you or me, nor belong to you or me, nor have you or me in it. > > > > > > Clearly the word is not the actuality. > > > > > > The actuality doesn't involve having a verbally-oriented meaning or construction. > > > > > > So why use the word " actuality? " > > > > > > Just for the fun of communicating. > > > > > > As long as it's fun. > > > > > > If it's not fun, it doesn't need to happen. > > > > > > -- D -- > > > > > > nothing NEEDS to " happen " . > > > > .b b.b. > > > True. > > Nothing needs to happen. > > It is all that happens. > > - d - as it so happens. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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