Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 The universe has no objective, independent existence. Its 'existence' depends on the memory of an observer. To realize this, is to realize that space/time are in us (memory), not us in them. Our true home is here and now. It's quite a relief to realize that all one's problems were imaginary. Like waking up from a bad dream. Only, one's " self " goes along with time and space. No past or future, no separate observer. People fear this. And want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 The universe has no objective, independent existence. Its 'existence' depends on the memory of an observer. To realize this, is to realize that space/time are in us (memory), not us in them. Our true home is here and now. It's quite a relief to realize that all one's problems were imaginary. Like waking up from a bad dream. Only, one's " self " goes along with time and space. No past or future, no separate observer. People fear this. And want it. geo> True. But what are more precisely, the universe, us and the home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Friday, June 12, 2009 5:56 PM Re: No objective existence The universe has no objective, independent existence. Its 'existence' depends on the memory of an observer. To realize this, is to realize that space/time are in us (memory), not us in them. Our true home is here and now. It's quite a relief to realize that all one's problems were imaginary. Like waking up from a bad dream. Only, one's " self " goes along with time and space. No past or future, no separate observer. People fear this. And want it. geo> True. But what are more precisely, the universe, us and the home? PS - This is not a challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > The universe has no objective, independent existence. > > Its 'existence' depends on the memory of an observer. > > To realize this, is to realize that space/time are in us (memory), not us in them. > > Our true home is here and now. > > It's quite a relief to realize that all one's problems were imaginary. > > Like waking up from a bad dream. > > Only, one's " self " goes along with time and space. > > No past or future, no separate observer. > > People fear this. And want it. people don't know what they want. people ARE the fearing to know. people " think " : " 'i' know what 'i' want. " if " i " actually did " i " would die. and it doesn't " matter " ..... and it doesn't " space " .... and it doesn't 'time " .... and it doesn't " energy " ... and it doesn't " transcend " .. and it's doesn't do strange. the only strange and mystical " thing " about it: that it seems strange and mystical. and this " world of ours " .. paradoxical in every aspect.. irrational and non logical.. squishy and irregular with " life " forms and polka dots.. never ending & never ending & never ending.. stories about " changing " . and inexplicable inapplicability.. and pain and mayhem and ruin and war and walks in the park. all that crazy shit.. is accepted as plain as day and the way it is. i need a guru to get through Manhattan. how the fuck can this be normal??? jamming as the Herd Assemblage... this is crazier than caving solo for decades. i'm glad it's just a memory. (whenever " i " manifest as distinction 1.) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > The universe has no objective, independent existence. > > Its 'existence' depends on the memory of an observer. > > To realize this, is to realize that space/time are in us (memory), not us in them. Yes, well-said. And endless hall of mirrors, images receding infinitely. > Our true home is here and now. > > It's quite a relief to realize that all one's problems were imaginary. One's relief is also imaginary. One's realizing is also imaginary. > Like waking up from a bad dream. > > Only, one's " self " goes along with time and space. The waking up, however beautiful the experience, is as imaginary as any experience. > No past or future, no separate observer. > > People fear this. And want it. People are their wanting, and their fearing. People appear as images, reflected by and into images, in the hall of mirrors. Mirrors which are themselves images. What isn't imagined, isn't imaged. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > The universe has no objective, independent existence. > > > > Its 'existence' depends on the memory of an observer. > > > > To realize this, is to realize that space/time are in us (memory), not us in them. > > Yes, well-said. > > And endless hall of mirrors, images receding infinitely. > > > Our true home is here and now. > > > > It's quite a relief to realize that all one's problems were imaginary. > > One's relief is also imaginary. > > One's realizing is also imaginary. > > > Like waking up from a bad dream. > > > > Only, one's " self " goes along with time and space. > > The waking up, however beautiful the experience, is as imaginary as any experience. > > > No past or future, no separate observer. > > > > People fear this. And want it. > > People are their wanting, and their fearing. > > People appear as images, reflected by and into images, in the hall of mirrors. > > Mirrors which are themselves images. > > What isn't imagined, isn't imaged. > > - d - did you just imagine that all by your lonesome? gee that's swell. really neat. imagine! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > The universe has no objective, independent existence. > > > > > > Its 'existence' depends on the memory of an observer. > > > > > > To realize this, is to realize that space/time are in us (memory), not us in them. > > > > Yes, well-said. > > > > And endless hall of mirrors, images receding infinitely. > > > > > Our true home is here and now. > > > > > > It's quite a relief to realize that all one's problems were imaginary. > > > > One's relief is also imaginary. > > > > One's realizing is also imaginary. > > > > > Like waking up from a bad dream. > > > > > > Only, one's " self " goes along with time and space. > > > > The waking up, however beautiful the experience, is as imaginary as any experience. > > > > > No past or future, no separate observer. > > > > > > People fear this. And want it. > > > > People are their wanting, and their fearing. > > > > People appear as images, reflected by and into images, in the hall of mirrors. > > > > Mirrors which are themselves images. > > > > What isn't imagined, isn't imaged. > > > > - d - > > > did you just imagine that all by your lonesome? > > gee that's swell. > > really neat. > > imagine! > > .b b.b. you have. and this was the result. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The universe has no objective, independent existence. > > > > > > > > Its 'existence' depends on the memory of an observer. > > > > > > > > To realize this, is to realize that space/time are in us (memory), not us in them. > > > > > > Yes, well-said. > > > > > > And endless hall of mirrors, images receding infinitely. > > > > > > > Our true home is here and now. > > > > > > > > It's quite a relief to realize that all one's problems were imaginary. > > > > > > One's relief is also imaginary. > > > > > > One's realizing is also imaginary. > > > > > > > Like waking up from a bad dream. > > > > > > > > Only, one's " self " goes along with time and space. > > > > > > The waking up, however beautiful the experience, is as imaginary as any experience. > > > > > > > No past or future, no separate observer. > > > > > > > > People fear this. And want it. > > > > > > People are their wanting, and their fearing. > > > > > > People appear as images, reflected by and into images, in the hall of mirrors. > > > > > > Mirrors which are themselves images. > > > > > > What isn't imagined, isn't imaged. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > did you just imagine that all by your lonesome? > > > > gee that's swell. > > > > really neat. > > > > imagine! > > > > .b b.b. > > you have. > > and this was the result. > > - d - what's " this " dan? " result " ? (this should be rich! LOL!) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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